Re: [uf-discuss] [hcite] date-published

2007-03-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael McCracken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes OK, I disappeared for a while there, but is it fair to summarize this thread by saying that the two field names we have the best evidence for in terms of usage on the actual web are 'date-published' and 'date-accessed

Re: [uf-discuss] [hcite] date-published

2007-03-29 Thread Michael McCracken
2007/2/21, Tim White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Jeremy said: >Though not really arguing >against Tim's reasons, there are cases in which citations can have a >date published and a date visited or accessed. Most definitely. I did not mean to discount the value of date-accessed. > >That said, should t

Re: [uf-discuss] [hcite] date-published

2007-02-21 Thread Tim White
Jeremy said: >Though not really arguing >against Tim's reasons, there are cases in which citations can have a >date published and a date visited or accessed. Most definitely. I did not mean to discount the value of date-accessed. > >That said, should there also be a date-accessed or date-vi

Re: [uf-discuss] [hcite] date-published

2007-02-21 Thread Brian Suda
On 2/21/07, Jeremy Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That said, should there also be a date-accessed or date-visited value for hCite? --- the SHOULD is defined by real-world examples. We shouldn't ask if we SHOULD add a feature, we should see if that feature already is being published in the wil

Re: [uf-discuss] [hcite] date-published

2007-02-21 Thread Jeremy Boggs
On Feb 20, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Tim White wrote: I vote for leaving it date-published. It really doesn't matter when consumers get their hands on a published piece, all that matters is when it is (claimed to be) published. I also vote for leaving it date-published. Though not really arguing a

Re: [uf-discuss] [hcite] date-published

2007-02-20 Thread Tim White
Mike said: >From Bruce D'Arcus on the wiki: > >"I've mentioned more than once that "date-published" is misleadingly >specific; too much for real world citations. Consider that many books >are published in the year preceding their copyright date, which is in >fact the date used for citation. I'd pre

Re: [uf-discuss] [hcite] date-published

2007-02-20 Thread Brian Suda
On 2/20/07, Michael McCracken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A quick scan through the markup examples we have confirms my impression that most examples from the web are equally vague about what the dates they show mean. Our condensed summaries on -examples often describe them as date-published, but i

Re: [uf-discuss] [hcite] date-published

2007-02-20 Thread Michael McCracken
On 2/20/07, Brian Suda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/20/07, Michael McCracken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone against changing 'date-published' to 'date'? --- the questions is what is the semantics of 'date'? if you create 'date' and use it the date published/updated/copyrighted/etc the

Re: [uf-discuss] [hcite] date-published

2007-02-20 Thread Brian Suda
On 2/20/07, Michael McCracken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is anyone against changing 'date-published' to 'date'? --- the questions is what is the semantics of 'date'? if you create 'date' and use it the date published/updated/copyrighted/etc then those all have different semantics. -brian -- b

[uf-discuss] [hcite] date-published

2007-02-20 Thread Michael McCracken
From Bruce D'Arcus on the wiki: "I've mentioned more than once that "date-published" is misleadingly specific; too much for real world citations. Consider that many books are published in the year preceding their copyright date, which is in fact the date used for citation. I'd prefer just "date"