Re: [uf-discuss] hResume - notes on creation and some feedback wanted
On Aug 29, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Brian Suda wrote: If an imaginary value of "present" were invented, then parsers would probably do the same thing can take the current date() and save that out to the file, otherwise DTEND:present wouldn't be a valid .ics file. this will take some thought. At the moment i think the easiest solution is to either leave off DTEND or add it in programiatically with the now() iCalendar supports repeated events with no end. I wonder if we could use that to suggest ongoing events. For example, instead of saying I started my current employment on 2007-05-31 with no end, I could say I started at 2007-05-31 09:00:00, ended at 2007-05-31 17:00:00, and repeat that every weekday with no end to the repetition. That's probably more information than anyone's actually publishing, but if that's workable in iCalendar, we could maybe come up with a shorthand for it in hCalendar. Peace, Scott ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] hResume - notes on creation and some feedback wanted
On 8/29/07, Ciaran McNulty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think your message has crossed with my reply to Ted - this isn't on > the faq page because it's an existing issue on the hresume-issues > page. > > I've no objection to leaving off dtend as a solution but I think it > would need to be added to the hResume spec as a departure from iCal. --- yes, we did just miss messages. According to the RFC an event without a DTEND is to be treated as a 1 day event. I also looked into DURATION as a possible solution, but that is no different than constantly updating a DTEND. It would somehow still be tied to a specific instance of the page. so i could uses now() and have a server-side script generate the current date, but as things got exported it would be frozen into the exported file as that date. If an imaginary value of "present" were invented, then parsers would probably do the same thing can take the current date() and save that out to the file, otherwise DTEND:present wouldn't be a valid .ics file. this will take some thought. At the moment i think the easiest solution is to either leave off DTEND or add it in programiatically with the now() feel free to document the options on the hreusme-issues page in more detail and any possible solutions (if any) -brian -- brian suda http://suda.co.uk ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] hResume - notes on creation and some feedback wanted
On 8/29/07, Brian Suda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2. Thinking of places to link to to add rel-tag links is problematic - > > at the moment I suspect people will err on the side of not using > > rel-tag > > -- this has also been noted when some resume services let you add more > free-text than simple 1-2 word terms. Can you document your > experiences here: > > http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-issues > http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-brainstorming I will do - in some ways it's more to do with the fact I *have* to link to an external site just to indicate what 'PHP' is, which seems like a heavy load to place on the user. > > 3. A very common element in CVs is a list of skills and years > > experience with that skill. > > --- if this is common can you please add examples to the wiki? Maybe > it was missed or omitted for some reason: I can only really put my own CV on there, my only evidence is anecdotal based on looking at a lot of (UK) developer's CVs lately. > You could experiment with tagging and adding skills to an experience > event. vevents can take "categoies" which can be rel-tags. So if i had > a skill in 2001, then you could deduce date()-2001= years with skill. That's a very good idea, thanks > > 4. I've seen this discussed before without resolution - there doesn't > > seem to be a way of marking up 'the present' as a finish date for an > > experience vevent. > > as Ted said "Just leave out the dtend and you should be all set." > > i didn´t see this on the FAQ page, so please add this with an answer. > http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-faq I think your message has crossed with my reply to Ted - this isn't on the faq page because it's an existing issue on the hresume-issues page. I've no objection to leaving off dtend as a solution but I think it would need to be added to the hResume spec as a departure from iCal. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] hResume - notes on creation and some feedback wanted
On 8/29/07, Ciaran McNulty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. Thinking of places to link to to add rel-tag links is problematic - > at the moment I suspect people will err on the side of not using > rel-tag -- this has also been noted when some resume services let you add more free-text than simple 1-2 word terms. Can you document your experiences here: http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-issues http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-brainstorming > 3. A very common element in CVs is a list of skills and years > experience with that skill. --- if this is common can you please add examples to the wiki? Maybe it was missed or omitted for some reason: http://microformats.org/wiki/resume-brainstorming#Examples_Analysis > Current skill markup is rel-tag which > doesn't encapsulate this, so it may be an area to look at. --- there has been a discussion of skill areas, but not really the number or grading of a skill. This can be problematics, people who have been driving for 70+ years have more experience, but are not always better. Same would go for a 4 of 5 rating. These ratings (by years or rating) are abritary to the individual. I know some listings say "3-5 years experience" i am assuming that is the use-case for dating skills? You could experiment with tagging and adding skills to an experience event. vevents can take "categoies" which can be rel-tags. So if i had a skill in 2001, then you could deduce date()-2001= years with skill. You can always use POSH markup at the moment too. > 4. I've seen this discussed before without resolution - there doesn't > seem to be a way of marking up 'the present' as a finish date for an > experience vevent. as Ted said "Just leave out the dtend and you should be all set." i didn´t see this on the FAQ page, so please add this with an answer. http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-faq Then others can iterate on it as needed. thanks, -brian -- brian suda http://suda.co.uk ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
[uf-discuss] hResume - notes on creation and some feedback wanted
Hi all, I've just published an hResume here: http://ciaranmcnulty.com/cv I'd appreciate any comments about the markup. Operator seems happy with it but I've not tried with any other consumers. Are there any active hResume aggregators I could submit it to? Some notes on my experiences of marking it up: 1. Overall, with an existing knowledge of hCard and hCalendar, marking up a CV as hResume is very straightforward. 2. Thinking of places to link to to add rel-tag links is problematic - at the moment I suspect people will err on the side of not using rel-tag 3. A very common element in CVs is a list of skills and years experience with that skill. Current skill markup is rel-tag which doesn't encapsulate this, so it may be an area to look at. 4. I've seen this discussed before without resolution - there doesn't seem to be a way of marking up 'the present' as a finish date for an experience vevent. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
