Re: [uf-discuss] invisible content OK?
On 9/3/07, Catherine Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One question I haven't seen addressed is whether it's considered good > practice to hide information from the as-displayed webpage while > including it in the microformat. For instance, I may be making a > chatty, informal blog entry - "We're gonna meet at noon this Wednesday > over tacos at Joe's". I want to make it a full, rich hCalendar entry > for those who actually want to pull down a vCard for Joe's, yet I > don't want to break up the chatty, informal flow of my narrative-style > post by visibly including a lot of detail - Joe's zip code, etc. > > ... > > Is there a better way? Should I not be doing it at all? Think of it this way: do you want someone reading the page to be able to find the address of Joe's? If so, that address should not be hidden. The issue then becomes how to show the address without interrupting the narrative flow, not whether to show or hide it at all. One solution could be to put the full address for Joe's in a footnote and reference it in the post using the include-pattern. If the include-pattern is too confusing or doesn't work, you could just leave the full hCard in a footnote and leave it up to the user to realize "oh, there's a reference to a footnote after Joe's, and there's an hCard here, so that must be the hCard for Joe's." Thus, the full address is still visible to the user, regardless of what technology they use, without interrupting the post with unnecessary detail. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] invisible content OK?
On 9/4/07, Catherine Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, everybody! --- welcome to the list, you have come to the right place to get microformats questions answered. > One question I haven't seen addressed is whether it's considered good > practice to hide information from the as-displayed webpage while > including it in the microformat. --- much of this has been discussed before, a quick search of the mailing list archives pulls up over 100 results. That is probably the best place to start and read-up on the topic. If you still have questions then feel free to ask them here again. http://www.google.com/search?q=site:http://microformats.org/discuss%20hidden%20data There is also an FAQ page, which does not currently have an Q & A for this, feel free to add one and answer it. Then we can all itterate and help the next person to find the answer. http://microformats.org/wiki/faq -brian -- brian suda http://suda.co.uk ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
[uf-discuss] invisible content OK?
Hi, everybody! I'm a new enthusiast to the Microformats world. I volunteered to present them to our Web Standards meetup ( http://webstandards.meetup.com/122/ ), and now I'm frantically devouring the uF book and making slides. One question I haven't seen addressed is whether it's considered good practice to hide information from the as-displayed webpage while including it in the microformat. For instance, I may be making a chatty, informal blog entry - "We're gonna meet at noon this Wednesday over tacos at Joe's". I want to make it a full, rich hCalendar entry for those who actually want to pull down a vCard for Joe's, yet I don't want to break up the chatty, informal flow of my narrative-style post by visibly including a lot of detail - Joe's zip code, etc. I'm imagining doing this by including tags like span class="street-address" title="123 1st street" style="display:none" A live example is at http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/2007/08/microformats-talk.html (yes, I passed up an opportunity to embed an hReview there - I'm just starting) Is there a better way? Should I not be doing it at all? the uF book mentions that one reason for the demise of META tags is that, since they are invisible, they are rarely properly maintained - that's one cause for doubt. Yet it seems like there ought to be a way to do this. After all, one of the things I love about microformats is that they don't impose restrictions on what you write and how you write it - they can go anywhere HTML can go. Thanks for your thoughts, -- - Catherine http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/ ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
