[uf-new] hAudio issue D2 title

2008-09-01 Thread Martin McEvoy
Hello all I have left this issue until last because this is the longest and probably the most contentious issue of them all issue D2 hAudio Title[1] originally marked as Overloading fn The current discussion around hAudio Title[2] is at the moment that It can't be used because its already

Re: [uf-new] Closing hAudio issues D1, D3 and D4

2008-09-01 Thread Manu Sporny
Martin McEvoy wrote: I will be closing issues D1, D3, and D4 today the solutions are outlined below. +1 to all of your proposed solutions, Martin. Great work on closing these last remaining issues! :) -- manu -- Manu Sporny President/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. blog: Bitmunk 3.0 Website

Re: [uf-new] hAudio issue D2 title

2008-09-01 Thread Tantek Celik
Martin, The first option you provide illustrates the fundamental problem with this issue, which is that the meaning we are trying to express is the name of the track / hAudio item. Even the iTunes UI refers to the Name (select a track in iTunes, Get Info, click the Info tab, note the first

Re: [uf-new] hAudio issue D2 title

2008-09-01 Thread Manu Sporny
Martin McEvoy wrote: - Resoulution 2: Use HTITLE [...] hTitle can then be reused in any microformat that needs a title property. hTitle has been given a root class

Re: [uf-new] Closing hAudio issues D1, D3 and D4

2008-09-01 Thread Martin McEvoy
Manu Sporny wrote: Martin McEvoy wrote: I will be closing issues D1, D3, and D4 today the solutions are outlined below. +1 to all of your proposed solutions, Martin. Great work on closing these last remaining issues! :) Thank you Manu, I didnt do it on my own just nudged you

Re: [uf-new] hAudio issue D2 title

2008-09-01 Thread Martin McEvoy
Hello Tantek Tantek Celik wrote: Martin, The first option you provide illustrates the fundamental problem with this issue, which is that the meaning we are trying to express is the name of the track / hAudio item. Even the iTunes UI refers to the Name (select a track in iTunes, Get Info,

Re: [uf-new] hAudio issue D2 title

2008-09-01 Thread Martin McEvoy
Martin McEvoy wrote: Hello Tantek Tantek Celik wrote: Martin, The first option you provide illustrates the fundamental problem with this issue, which is that the meaning we are trying to express is the name of the track / hAudio item. Even the iTunes UI refers to the Name (select a track

Re: [uf-new] hAudio issue D2 title

2008-09-01 Thread Martin McEvoy
Manu Sporny wrote: Martin McEvoy wrote: - Resoulution 2: Use HTITLE [...] hTitle can then be reused in any microformat that needs a title property. hTitle has been given

Re: [uf-new] hAudio issue D2 title

2008-09-01 Thread Scott Reynen
On [Sep 1], at [ Sep 1] 2:00 , Martin McEvoy wrote: fn was changed to title because it was over used in haudio, haudio title = fn haudio contributor = fn item title = fn and what If the author of the audio came first? This shouldn't be an issue. Every hAudio parser must understand

Re: [uf-new] hAudio issue D2 title

2008-09-01 Thread Martin McEvoy
Hello Scott Scott Reynen wrote: On [Sep 1], at [ Sep 1] 2:00 , Martin McEvoy wrote: fn was changed to title because it was over used in haudio, haudio title = fn haudio contributor = fn item title = fn and what If the author of the audio came first? This shouldn't be an issue. Every

Re: [uf-new] hAudio issue D2 title

2008-09-01 Thread Tantek Celik
Martin, I agree with you that this is a larger issue impacting existing and new microformats, however, trying to come up with new names for the same meaning is not the answer, and will quickly fall apart. We likely need to come up with scoping rules for all microformats like (just thinking

Re: [uf-new] hAudio issue D2 title

2008-09-01 Thread David Janes
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Tantek Celik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin, I agree with you that this is a larger issue impacting existing and new microformats, however, trying to come up with new names for the same meaning is not the answer, and will quickly fall apart. We likely need

Re: [uf-new] hAudio issue D2 title

2008-09-01 Thread Manu Sporny
Tantek Celik wrote: I agree with you that this is a larger issue impacting existing and new microformats, however, trying to come up with new names for the same meaning is not the answer, and will quickly fall apart. *sigh* - and we were so close to getting hAudio to the draft stage... I

Re: [uf-new] hAudio issue D2 title

2008-09-01 Thread Derrick Lyndon Pallas
It is my duty to point out that this issue comes up every six months. In the past, it has always been tabled for a variety of reasons. Maybe this will be the last time I exercise this office. As someone who consumes ufs, my +1 is for a top-level, generic scoping class of a single name used

Re: [uf-new] hAudio issue D2 title

2008-09-01 Thread Martin McEvoy
Hello again Tantek Tantek Celik wrote: Martin, I agree with you that this is a larger issue impacting existing and new microformats, however, trying to come up with new names for the same meaning is not the answer, and will quickly fall apart. Agreed We likely need to come up with