On Sunday 27 August 2006 00:02, Default User wrote:
I just know I'm going to regret asking this, but . . .
why does OpenBSD have ksh as the default shell, rather than bash?
Also, what ever happened to the statically-compiled bash that used to be
available in OpenBSD packages?
BTW, thanks
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Default User wrote:
I just know I'm going to regret asking this, but . . .
why does OpenBSD have ksh as the default shell, rather than bash?
Also, what ever happened to the statically-compiled bash that used to be
available in OpenBSD packages?
BTW, thanks for
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Edd Barrett wrote:
On 25/08/06, Matthew R. Dempsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 05:38:19AM +1000, Scott Radvan wrote:
Or am I missing something which could allow the install to use all
available bandwidth?
Can you first choose S for shell,
Joachim Schipper wrote on 26/08/2006 23:29:
At a random guess, ssh-agent(1). Or ssh -A.
i don't have ssh-agent on the two system. i have one on a third which is
connected on the soekris with putty using password
Could it be the putty option Allow agent forwarding ???
(equivalent of -A in cli,
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 11:02:32PM -0500, Default User wrote:
I just know I'm going to regret asking this, but . . .
why does OpenBSD have ksh as the default shell, rather than bash?
Size, speed[1], license (PD vs. GPL), possibly standard conformance.
Also, what ever happened to the
Sam Chill wrote:
ksh does most everything bash does too, so it doesn't seem like a loss.
FWIW, I miss a couple of features in ksh and consider to switch (back)
to bash:
- When using tab completion, and you press tab two times to get a list
of possibilities, ksh doesn't use less/more to
Martin Toft wrote:
FWIW, I miss a couple of features in ksh and consider to switch (back)
to bash:
I forgot one:
- I miss the for (( expr1 ; expr2 ; expr3 )) ; do list ; done
construct. Of course, using e.g. jot, it is possible to do semantically
equivalent stuff.
/Martin
encoding issue solved by reading the ukbd man.
/bkw
On 26/08/06, Bachman Kharazmi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
now I've solved the problem by taking a bus to nearest computerstore
buying a usb-by-default kb from logitech (model: flat something..) and
it works flawless!
But in console it ain't the
Woodchuck schrieb am Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 03:19:38AM -0400:
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Edd Barrett wrote:
On 25/08/06, Matthew R. Dempsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 05:38:19AM +1000, Scott Radvan wrote:
Or am I missing something which could allow the install to use all
Has anyone using Root on RAID managed to point their dumpdev at a swap space,
either within a RAID array or on a standard swap partition?
I have not, and a search of the archives only came up with one posting, with
a similar question, but no answer:
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 01:09:57AM +, Todd Alan Smith wrote:
Hello misc,
Has the OpenBSD project ever considered offering a subscription to the
OpenBSD CDs. I'm thinking of something similar to that[0] offered by
the Slackware Linux Project. I like the idea of knowing that the
newest
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 11:29:54PM -0400, NetNeanderthal wrote:
On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For some reason, I'm not getting it when it comes to pf... Two
things I can't figure out: (1) filtered vs blocked for some TCP
ports and (2) rules for tun0, my vpn interface.
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 09:57:31PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For some reason, I'm not getting it when it comes to pf... Two
things I can't figure out: (1) filtered vs blocked for some TCP
ports and (2) rules for tun0, my vpn interface.
First, my /etc/pf.conf:
int_if = vr1
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 11:22:13AM +0200, Martin Toft wrote:
Sam Chill wrote:
ksh does most everything bash does too, so it doesn't seem like a loss.
FWIW, I miss a couple of features in ksh and consider to switch (back)
to bash:
- When using tab completion, and you press tab two times
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 01:39:51AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am pricing out two servers right now.
One server will be an Apache/PHP web server. The other will be a
MySQL database server.
I plan to install OpenBSD 3.9-stable and PHP and MySQL packages.
These server will be Dell
On 8/27/06, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, you got it the wrong way round - nmap assumes a port is
filtered when it gets no response.
You're correct, an oversight on my part.
From the nmap man page (which I clearly failed to read):
'Filtered means that a firewall,
Hi!
I got a few Postmaster notify from Sendmail, telling me there was
mail.local: /var/mail/many: Too many open files in system and also
a few with mail: can't load library 'libc.so.39.0'.
/var/log/messages told me:
Aug 27 16:00:01 blowfish /bsd: file: table is full
Aug 27 16:00:01 blowfish
I did a checkout and tried to build current (on top of a snapshot) but
compilation breaks:
=== sbin/wsconsctl
cc -O2 -pipe-I/usr/src/sbin/wsconsctl -I. -c display.c
cc -O2 -pipe-I/usr/src/sbin/wsconsctl -I. -c keyboard.c
cc -O2 -pipe-I/usr/src/sbin/wsconsctl -I. -c keysym.c
I did a checkout and tried to build current (on top of a snapshot) but
compilation breaks:
[...]
Is it a problem local to my laptop or anyone noticed the same ?
You forgot the ``make depend'' phase.
Miod
Andreas Bartelt wrote:
...
thanks, you made me look at my BIOS and (at least I think) I found the
cause. There's an option called Video Off method, which was set to
DPMS support. I just switched it to blank screen and didn't
experience the usual problems after rebooting. I think (hope ;) )
On 2006/08/27 17:09, Mackan wrote:
I did sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=1 to increase the value from
1772 to 1, and put the same value in /etc/sysctl.conf
Keep an eye on kern.nfiles, if it's higher than expected take a
look at fstat and check there isn't a problem. I had a box where a
program
Andreas Bartelt wrote:
...
sorry, I forgot a add dmesg output...
OpenBSD 4.0-beta (GENERIC) #0: Sat Aug 26 05:17:41 CEST 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/a/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ (AuthenticAMD 686-class, 512KB L2 cache) 1.93
GHz
cpu0:
Woodchuck == Woodchuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Woodchuck Perl has obviated the need for some sort of interactive interpreted
Woodchuck system language. Bash has some new and expanded features, but not
Woodchuck enough to make its use compelling.
Since discovering Perl, the longest thing I
Andreas Bartelt wrote:
Andreas Bartelt wrote: ...
thanks, you made me look at my BIOS and (at least I think) I found
the cause. There's an option called Video Off method, which was
set to DPMS support. I just switched it to blank screen and
didn't experience the usual problems after rebooting.
On 2006/08/26 21:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For some reason, I'm not getting it when it comes to pf... Two
things I can't figure out: (1) filtered vs blocked for some TCP
ports and (2) rules for tun0, my vpn interface.
You didn't mention the OS version; if I can assume you're running
an
Miod Vallat wrote:
I did a checkout and tried to build current (on top of a snapshot) but
compilation breaks:
[...]
Is it a problem local to my laptop or anyone noticed the same ?
You forgot the ``make depend'' phase.
Miod
sorry, I feel lame :|
Martin Toft wrote:
Sam Chill wrote:
ksh does most everything bash does too, so it doesn't seem like a
loss.
FWIW, I miss a couple of features in ksh and consider to switch
(back) to bash:
- When using tab completion, and you press tab two times to get a
list of possibilities, ksh doesn't use
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 09:14:12AM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Woodchuck == Woodchuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Woodchuck Perl has obviated the need for some sort of interactive interpreted
Woodchuck system language. Bash has some new and expanded features, but not
Woodchuck enough
On 2006/08/27 15:23, Joachim Schipper wrote:
pass in log on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to ($ext_if) \
port $tcp_services flags S/SA keep state
Also, the flags directive is redundant with scrub, unless I am mistaken.
Where you're using a standard PF setup using stateful
When I started using OpenBSD, I got tired of having to install Bash all the
time so I just stuck with ksh. That was several years ago. I don't know much
about shell programming nor do I do any configuring with ksh.
Now everytime I use linux, I find bash very annoying. I don't know why, I
just
On 8/26/06, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has the OpenBSD project ever considered offering a subscription to the
OpenBSD CDs.
Yes we have considered it, and no, we won't be doing it.
Understood. You consider it to be too risky.
And you could have googled before you became the
On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:33 AM, Joachim Schipper wrote:
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 01:39:51AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am pricing out two servers right now.
One server will be an Apache/PHP web server. The other will be a
MySQL database server.
I plan to install OpenBSD 3.9-stable and PHP
hi all,
While reading ksh(1) I found :
A pipeline may be prefixed by the `!' reserved word,
which causes the exit status of the pipeline to be
logically complemented: if the original status was
0, the complemented status will be 1; if the
original status
* Eric Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-28 01:04]:
The thought of using something other than MySQL has crossed my mind.
But I'm trying not to stray to far from what I already know. I
usually farm out the server maintenance to another company but I
decided to do it myself on this
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 12:59:28AM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
| hi all,
|
| While reading ksh(1) I found :
|
| A pipeline may be prefixed by the `!' reserved word,
| which causes the exit status of the pipeline to be
| logically complemented: if the original status was
|
Please now try `if ! false; then echo true; fi`.
Why does my shell eat muchos CPU RAM after such a short pipeline?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ uname -a
OpenBSD idefix 3.9 GENERIC#617 i386
[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ /bin/ksh
$ date
Mon Aug 28 01:28:07 CEST 2006
$ if ! false; then echo true; fi
true
$ date
thus Eric Stewart spake:
On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:33 AM, Joachim Schipper wrote:
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 01:39:51AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am pricing out two servers right now.
(...)
Is OpenBSD and Apache/PHP gonna take advantage of a second processor
and show some decent increase
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 01:22:19AM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 12:59:28AM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
| hi all,
|
| While reading ksh(1) I found :
|
| A pipeline may be prefixed by the `!' reserved word,
| which causes the exit status of the pipeline to be
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 12:59:28AM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
hi all,
While reading ksh(1) I found :
A pipeline may be prefixed by the `!' reserved word,
which causes the exit status of the pipeline to be
logically complemented: if the original status was
0, the
stan wrote:
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 02:57:00PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote:
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 03:53:55PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote:
On 8/26/06, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has the OpenBSD project ever considered offering a subscription to the
OpenBSD CDs.
On 8/27/06, Ingo Schwarze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
During the install, before downloading the sets, he can escape to
a shell (there is even a prompt Do you want to do any manual
network configuration? at one point), get the binary via ftp
into the ramdisk, run it (if the install kernel does
On 8/28/06, Kenny Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
stan wrote:
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 02:57:00PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote:
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 03:53:55PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote:
On 8/26/06, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has the OpenBSD project ever considered offering
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