Re: digitally signed distribution (was: OBSD's perspective on SELinux)

2007-09-25 Thread Lars Hansson
On 9/24/07, Martin Schrvder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/9/24, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sure it does, just pull from CVS over SSH and compile your own. Only Where do I get the ssh fingerprints of the CVS servers? Where do you get the public keys for the digitally signed

Re: digitally signed distribution (was: OBSD's perspective on SELinux)

2007-09-25 Thread Darren Spruell
Sure it does, just pull from CVS over SSH and compile your own. Only Where do I get the ssh fingerprints of the CVS servers? http://www.openbsd.org/anoncvs.html#CVSROOT, of course. Not all are listed, but one can either use one that needs verified or contact the maintainer for a correct

RAID1 powerloss - can parity rewrite be safely backgrounded?

2007-09-25 Thread Matt
I'm running a RAID1 mirror on OpenBSD 4.1 (webserver) On a power failure the parity becomes dirty and needs rewriting, which results in 1.5 hours 'downtime'. Is it safe to background this in /etc/rc or is that a no-no? I found a reference this was possible/safe on-list but it was a) 2003 and

Re: OpenCON 2007 // Call for Papers

2007-09-25 Thread Marc Balmer
Eric Johnson wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:55:16 +0200 Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://2006.opencon.org/ Just out of curiousity (since I can't make it), is there a newer page on this? That is the webpage of last years conference, please visit http://www.opencon.org/ for the current

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread patrick keshishian
On 9/23/07, Peter N. M. Hansteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: patrick keshishian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm running spamdb in greylist mode, but these servers were getting white-listed very quickly. Then it sounds almost like you were running with a too short passtime, but then that's easy

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
patrick keshishian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When you speak of misconfigured mail servers bouncing spam, what exactly is a proper configured mail server supposed to do with spam directed at non-existing user @their-host-name? The real question in there is, what does a properly configured mail

Debugging ral

2007-09-25 Thread Francesco Toscan
I'd like to thank in public Damien Bergamini, he helped me a lot in debugging my ral setup: it was very very slow and unreliable. With Damien's tips now I have a better understanding of my ral device and, above all, it works flawlessy. I wrote a small doc reporting this experience and

hoststated, using the same tables for more than one service

2007-09-25 Thread Josh
Hello there. I am using hoststated to fail over to a backup server. No dramas in that department. However, I have more than one internet connection for which hoststated is doing rdr's for. Each incoming internet connection goes to a specific carp ip, and I tag it. Then I use a reply-to

Re: hoststated, using the same tables for more than one service

2007-09-25 Thread Pierre-Yves Ritschard
Anyway, my question is, can I use the same tables in multiple service entries? ( one for each connection ) no problem there.

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread Craig Skinner
patrick keshishian wrote: I'm very certain right now, this flood is due to a spammer using these fake addresses @my-domain-name to spam these mail server (all around the world -- Japan, South America, US, Germany, Ireland, etc...) and I'm getting the brunt of it in the form of these bounced

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: malware, so they will quickly bypass spamd. Spamd greytraps will help a great deal, but you say that the addresses are random. I think what happened here is that somebody let the random address generator run for longer than intended. One or more

Proper way to install library from source

2007-09-25 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Hello I would like to have the AoTuV Vorbis encoder. There is no package for that. Is this supported on OpenBSD and if yes what is the proper way to do it? I downloaded the AoTuV libvorbis (it's just a different version of libvorbis), compiled, installed, then oggenc didn't recognize -q 2. So I

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/25 00:08, patrick keshishian wrote: I'm very certain right now, this flood is due to a spammer using these fake addresses @my-domain-name to spam these mail server (all around the world -- Japan, South America, US, Germany, Ireland, etc...) and I'm getting the brunt of it in the

Re: OBSD's perspective on SELinux

2007-09-25 Thread Marc Espie
In all my experience, every single complex security policy I've seen has very serious issues. Complexity kills it. There's always a scenario somewhere that someone has forgotten about that breaks stuff. Heck, this even happens with access control systems like PAM. About every 3 months, we hear

non-x86-based hardware for OBSD?

2007-09-25 Thread Lars Noodén
I'm looking at the recent article on Soekris and very favorably impressed. Setting up a Soekris 5501 with OpenBSD 4.2 24 Sep 2007 http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20070924004901 The setup seems almost perfect, except that the AMD Geode seems to be x86-based. What

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If it's compatible with how you use the domain, it might help to publish SPF records. I suppose I'll never know how many receivers of spam claiming to be from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (yes, fresh from the source) and friends actually acted on the SPF info

Re: non-x86-based hardware for OBSD?

2007-09-25 Thread nicodache
VIA, Intel lo-comsumption, are X86-based. You should go into the ARM world to get something like that, and you will be disapointed, as it is much much harder to find something with 4 network connectors, serial, flash, pci, mini-pci connector, due to the lack of products manufacturers. You may

Re: non-x86-based hardware for OBSD?

2007-09-25 Thread Karl Sjödahl - dunceor
On 9/25/07, Lars NoodC)n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at the recent article on Soekris and very favorably impressed. Setting up a Soekris 5501 with OpenBSD 4.2 24 Sep 2007 http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20070924004901 The setup seems almost perfect, except

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/25 10:29, Stuart Henderson wrote: Also: all hosts listed in MX records should be aware of the list of valid users and do the same. For sendmail, this is easy to do with the access map. I had a question off-list about how to do this, so I guess some other people will benefit from an

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread RW
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:38:10 +0100, Craig Skinner wrote: Greylisting is of no use whatsoever because the servers sending the bounces to you are actual smtp boxes (sendmail, extrange, ), not malware, so they will quickly bypass spamd. Spamd greytraps will help a great deal, but you say

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One was bounced mail that should have been rejected as invalid recipient mail at the original target. That included an mx at aph.gov.au, the Australian Federal Parliamnet House. Yep, the pollies who want ISPs to block websites on request and who spent $84mil on a

Re: hoststated, using the same tables for more than one service

2007-09-25 Thread Josh
Well after trying it, it appears there _IS_ a problem there. One of the services was not working. As soon as I gave it its own separate tables, it worked. Pierre-Yves Ritschard wrote: Anyway, my question is, can I use the same tables in multiple service entries? ( one for each

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread Craig Skinner
Stuart Henderson wrote: I had a question off-list about how to do this, so I guess some other people will benefit from an example of how to set this up. If you are using postfix: /etc/postfix/main.cf: .. .. smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_non_fqdn_hostname

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread Craig Skinner
RW wrote: The others were from bots as far as I could tell but they were not being sent by MTAs which had received them. Yes, but the OPs problem is back scatter, and that does not come from bots, they don't retry. $ man spamd: DESCRIPTION spamd is a fake sendmail(8)-like daemon

what if hoststated dies?

2007-09-25 Thread Josh
Gidday, How can I have a rdr rule which redirects to the same main servers that hoststated does ( using a different table/macro in pf.conf than the hoststated rdr statement does ), which only matches when hoststated is not running? What happens if hoststated crashes? Does its latest table

Re: hoststated, using the same tables for more than one service

2007-09-25 Thread Pierre-Yves Ritschard
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:25:44 +1200 Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well after trying it, it appears there _IS_ a problem there. One of the services was not working. As soon as I gave it its own separate tables, it worked. Pierre-Yves Ritschard wrote: Anyway, my question is, can I use

Re: non-x86-based hardware for OBSD?

2007-09-25 Thread Lars Noodén
nicodache wrote: ... You should go into the ARM world to get something like that, and you will be disapointed, as it is much much harder to find something with 4 network connectors, serial, flash, pci, mini-pci connector, due to the lack of products manufacturers. Yes. I know. Hence my

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread Liviu Daia
On 25 September 2007, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] My defence was to write a couple of scripts. One parsed the output of spamdb looking for GREY with sender and then tested the intended recipient against the postfix valid mailbox database. [...] With Postfix you can use anvil(8) to

Re: what if hoststated dies?

2007-09-25 Thread Luca Corti
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 00:01 +1200, Josh wrote: What happens if hoststated crashes? Does its latest table entry's and rdr rules still remain? Maybe you can try a kill -9 and see what happens. ciao Luca

Re: non-x86-based hardware for OBSD?

2007-09-25 Thread Karl Sjödahl - dunceor
On 9/25/07, Lars NoodC)n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nicodache wrote: ... You should go into the ARM world to get something like that, and you will be disapointed, as it is much much harder to find something with 4 network connectors, serial, flash, pci, mini-pci connector, due to the lack

Re: non-x86-based hardware for OBSD?

2007-09-25 Thread nicodache
I think AxiomTek has what you're looking for. And if it doesn't, then either there is no such thing as you search, or it's well hidden. regards, On 9/25/07, Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nicodache wrote: ... You should go into the ARM world to get something like that, and you will

Re: hoststated, using the same tables for more than one service

2007-09-25 Thread Pierre-Yves Ritschard
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:08:50 +0200 Pierre-Yves Ritschard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:25:44 +1200 Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well after trying it, it appears there _IS_ a problem there. One of the services was not working. As soon as I gave it its own separate

Re: non-x86-based hardware for OBSD?

2007-09-25 Thread Lars Noodén
Karl SjC6dahl - dunceor wrote: What is AMT? http://www.intel.com/technology/platform-technology/intel-amt/index.htm aka rootkit for everybody http://strombergson.com/kryptoblog/?p=311 Well ARM is not under Intel, Intel does ARM-processors just like several others do (Atmel, TI, Phillips

Re: OBSD's perspective on SELinux

2007-09-25 Thread Marc Espie
Just for the fun of it, some people subscribe to misc@ from politically correct accounts. So, I got a bounce on my last email, because I was saying that complex security ACLs were fucked up by design. This email is probably going to get blocked too, which is all that they deserve. Fucking

Re: non-x86-based hardware for OBSD?

2007-09-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/25 15:19, Lars Noodin wrote: nicodache wrote: ... You should go into the ARM world to get something like that, and you will be disapointed, as it is much much harder to find something with 4 network connectors, serial, flash, pci, mini-pci connector, due to the lack of

altroot is not mentioned in FAQ

2007-09-25 Thread Jan Stary
Hi all, afterboot(8) mentions /altroot, which is a nice feature. But you only learn about /altroot when you read afterboot(8). By that time, you already have a system installed, in particular your disk is already partitioned, and typically you don't have the spare partition (of size at least

kde automounting

2007-09-25 Thread Rodrigo V. Raimundo
Is there a way to get kde's automounting functionality working under obsd? At linux I think it uses hal-deamon plus something like pmount. Some way to make /etc/hotplug/attach call some kde application with DISPLAY=:0.0 that lets the gui-logged user mount (or not) its usb drive ?

Re: Debugging ral

2007-09-25 Thread Matthew Szudzik
I wrote a small doc reporting this experience and Damien's tips: I hope it could be useful. http://sekureshell.altervista.org/docs/trouble_ral.html I have a question. You list channel 112 as having the greatest power (power=57), and claim that you chose the channel with the greatest power.

Re: kde automounting

2007-09-25 Thread Antti Harri
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Rodrigo V. Raimundo wrote: Is there a way to get kde's automounting functionality working under obsd? At linux I think it uses hal-deamon plus something like pmount. Some way to make /etc/hotplug/attach call some kde application with DISPLAY=:0.0 that lets the gui-logged

Re: Debugging ral

2007-09-25 Thread Francesco Toscan
A few lines above I wrote supported channel: i meant supported by your clients. Yes, this should be corrected, thank you. I don't know if some device supports those high channels: another ral adapter I tested does, my laptop doesn't. For example my iBook supports channels from 1 to 11 (don't

Re: kde automounting

2007-09-25 Thread Rodrigo V. Raimundo
Antti Harri wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Rodrigo V. Raimundo wrote: Is there a way to get kde's automounting functionality working under obsd? At linux I think it uses hal-deamon plus something like pmount. Some way to make /etc/hotplug/attach call some kde application with DISPLAY=:0.0 that

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread Chris Smith
On Tuesday 25 September 2007, Craig Skinner wrote: If you are using postfix: /etc/postfix/main.cf: .. .. smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_non_fqdn_hostname reject_invalid_hostname reject_non_fqdn_sender reject_non_fqdn_recipient

Re: what if hoststated dies?

2007-09-25 Thread Pierre-Yves Ritschard
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:22:19 +0200 Luca Corti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 00:01 +1200, Josh wrote: What happens if hoststated crashes? Does its latest table entry's and rdr rules still remain? Maybe you can try a kill -9 and see what happens. ciao Luca better

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Re: kde automounting

2007-09-25 Thread Nick Guenther
On 9/25/07, Rodrigo V. Raimundo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antti Harri wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Rodrigo V. Raimundo wrote: Is there a way to get kde's automounting functionality working under obsd? At linux I think it uses hal-deamon plus something like pmount. Some way to make

Re: carp ip balancing (-current)

2007-09-25 Thread dane johansen
I went to colo, and checked what happened, as soon as a type: ifconfig carp0 10.10.10.110 netmask 255.255.248.0 vhid 7 advskew 100 I get: ifconfig carp0 10.10.10.110 netmask 255.255.248.0 vhid 7 advskew 100 uvm_fault(0xd6a07524, 0x0, 0, 3) - e kernel: page fault trap, code=0 Stopped at

Re: carp ip balancing (-current)

2007-09-25 Thread Marco Pfatschbacher
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 08:57:19AM -0700, dane johansen wrote: I went to colo, and checked what happened, as soon as a type: ifconfig carp0 10.10.10.110 netmask 255.255.248.0 vhid 7 advskew 100 I get: ifconfig carp0 10.10.10.110 netmask 255.255.248.0 vhid 7 advskew 100 uvm_fault(0xd6a07524,

wi maximal power

2007-09-25 Thread Marcus Andree
Dear all, First, let me say a big hello to everyone here. I've been out of this list for almost three years... Just came back less than a week ago and Chuck Yerkes is sorely missing... I don't know if this question will be better answered here or on [EMAIL PROTECTED] After reading an email

Re: carp ip balancing (-current)

2007-09-25 Thread dane johansen
Thanks. On 9/25/07, Marco Pfatschbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 08:57:19AM -0700, dane johansen wrote: I went to colo, and checked what happened, as soon as a type: ifconfig carp0 10.10.10.110 netmask 255.255.248.0 vhid 7 advskew 100 I get: ifconfig carp0

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Re: touch screens

2007-09-25 Thread Joerg Zinke
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:15:08 -0700 Chris Cappuccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any recommendations on 7 or smaller touch screens that have a USB input ? I want something preferrably under or around $100... I want to mount it on a car dash. from:

Re: non-x86-based hardware for OBSD?

2007-09-25 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There has got to be non-x86 units out there, SBC or other, running Cell or Freescale or anything else. If you look hard enough, I think you can find ARM/MIPS/PowerPC based single-board computers vaguely comparable to the Soekris range. Heck, just look at

Re: touch screens

2007-09-25 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Well, I don't need scaling support out of the box, I just want something cheap. If it takes a little bit of work to make it happen, that's no problem. I had a hard time finding the listed LG monitor, and the Hantouch stuff is not cheap. Joerg Zinke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from:

Re: non-x86-based hardware for OBSD?

2007-09-25 Thread Ted Unangst
On 9/25/07, Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at the recent article on Soekris and very favorably impressed. Setting up a Soekris 5501 with OpenBSD 4.2 24 Sep 2007 http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20070924004901 The setup seems almost perfect, except

spamd shows up as an open relay

2007-09-25 Thread Rob
Hey guys, We just ran across an odd intermittent problem with email that we traced back to spamd showing up as an open relay. I double-checked the documentation and mailing list archives and didn't find anything relevant. Our mail server is bara.nccn.net, 12.165.58.50. There is a

Re: spamd shows up as an open relay

2007-09-25 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Rob wrote: We just ran across an odd intermittent problem with email that we traced back to spamd showing up as an open relay. I double-checked the documentation and mailing list archives and didn't find anything relevant. Please let us know what service (if different

Re: spamd shows up as an open relay

2007-09-25 Thread Rob
Hi Jeremy, On 9/25/07, Jeremy C. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Rob wrote: We just ran across an odd intermittent problem with email that we traced back to spamd showing up as an open relay. I double-checked the documentation and mailing list archives and didn't find

Re: what if hoststated dies?

2007-09-25 Thread Josh
So any suggestions on how to have a rdr rule in pf.conf take over when this happens? better try pkill -SEGV hoststated ;) in either case, the pfe process catches the fact that the hce process dies and cleans up the tables and rules before completely dying

PF out of sync errors?

2007-09-25 Thread Jake Conk
Hello, I have to machines running OpenBSD 4.1 which are acting as a firewalls and I have pfsync setup between the two. One of my machines had a power loss and when we turned it back on we got a lot of pf errors claiming bad state and what not. Here is the first machine which didn't have a power

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread RW
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:40:50 +0100, Craig Skinner wrote: RW wrote: The others were from bots as far as I could tell but they were not being sent by MTAs which had received them. Yes, but the OPs problem is back scatter, and that does not come from bots, they don't retry. What I was

Re: what if hoststated dies?

2007-09-25 Thread Luca Corti
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 10:54 +1200, Josh wrote: So any suggestions on how to have a rdr rule in pf.conf take over when this happens? Why? If hoststated crashes, then it's a bug. If it doesn't crash, what are you trying to achieve? ciao Luca

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread RW
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:14:46 +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: On 25 September 2007, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] My defence was to write a couple of scripts. One parsed the output of spamdb looking for GREY with sender and then tested the intended recipient against the postfix valid mailbox

Re: what if hoststated dies?

2007-09-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/26 10:54, Josh wrote: So any suggestions on how to have a rdr rule in pf.conf take over when this happens? Yes, just list it below the hoststated rdr anchor.

Re: spamd shows up as an open relay

2007-09-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/25 14:50, Rob wrote: Is there some configuration for spamd that I've missed You could run inbound and outbound email on different IP addresses, and don't accept incoming port 25 connections on the address used as a source for outgoing mail.

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread Liviu Daia
On 26 September 2007, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:14:46 +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: On 25 September 2007, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] My defence was to write a couple of scripts. One parsed the output of spamdb looking for GREY with sender and then tested the

Re: spamd shows up as an open relay

2007-09-25 Thread Rob
I'm not 100% certain I'm getting your idea here ... we do currently run inbound/outbound mail on different IPs, but the problem isn't with the connections themselves. From the example session transcript with spamd that I posted earlier: 250 Hello, spam sender. Pleased to be wasting your time.

Re: spamd shows up as an open relay

2007-09-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/25 17:35, Rob wrote: Since this is happening during the conversation with our inbound mail server, I don't see how filtering connections between our inbound and outbound mail servers would fix it. From what you say, it sounds like your outbound mail server sends mail to some host

Re: spamd shows up as an open relay

2007-09-25 Thread Rob
On 9/25/07, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007/09/25 17:35, Rob wrote: Since this is happening during the conversation with our inbound mail server, I don't see how filtering connections between our inbound and outbound mail servers would fix it. From what you say, it

Re: spamd shows up as an open relay

2007-09-25 Thread Lars Hansson
On 9/26/07, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I agree. It's the wrong way for them to check for an open relay, but it is still causing a bit of a problem. Well if it is actually caused by spamd you have 2 options: a) not run spamd. b) ask them to get their shit together and hope they actually

Re: SMTP flood + spamdb

2007-09-25 Thread RW
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:16:35 +0300, Liviu Daia wrote: Postfix would just be rejecting them and filling its logs. Oh come on, these days you're probably rejecting 95% of messages anyway. :) Nope. Every day at log reading time I do grep reject maillog and very rarely do I see a result.

Speed Problems

2007-09-25 Thread rezidue
I've been having problems with throughput on a box I'm using as an edge gateway. I can't seem to get it to push out more than 150Mb/sec at about 20k pps. It's a Tyan Thunder K8SR (S2881) board that has two gig broadcom interfaces on a shared pci-x bus. It's on the bcm5704c chipset and I'm