Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-10 Thread Kevin Wilcox
bofh wrote: On Jan 9, 2008 1:52 PM, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 10:07:50AM -0500, Kevin Wilcox wrote: Daniel then brought up the idea of CD sales. Something you can buy and put an exact digital replica of online. are sure about that? and what about the

Re: Open Source Article Spawns Interesting Ethical Question

2008-01-10 Thread weingart
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 01:21:04PM +0100, chefren wrote: Look around, somewhat further than your relatives and friends... If it's not programmed well, it's stupid. Stupidity implies sentience... HAL, you there? -Toby. --

Re: Intel DQ35MP

2008-01-10 Thread Michał Koc
Hello I've noticed this problem on many different INTEL motherboard models. Debugging showed that under the address where acpi structures should be are actually zeros. So there is probably some memory mapping problem. regards M.K. Marcos Laufer pisze: Hello , i tried updating the BIOS to the

Way OT:Re: Open Source Article Spawns Interesting Ethical Question

2008-01-10 Thread Eric Furman
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:41:44 -0500, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Jan 8, 2008 2:27 PM, Eric Furman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:18:15 -0500, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Yes, that is my view of things. Using the phone could be convenient for me. (I

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-10 Thread Eric Furman
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:34:46 -0500, Kevin Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: bofh wrote: On Jan 9, 2008 1:52 PM, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 10:07:50AM -0500, Kevin Wilcox wrote: Daniel then brought up the idea of CD sales. Something you can buy and put an

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Tony Abernethy
Nikns Siankin wrote: I see people keep repeating nonsense like this instead of talking about topic. At least he can read. And think.

Building Finch (Pidgin), ncurses issue.

2008-01-10 Thread Jon
I'm attempting to build Finch (interactive textual front-end to libpurple) from the Pidgin 2.3.1 source tarball using this command: MSGFMT=`which msgfmt` ./configure --disable-gtkui --disable-gstreamer --disable-perl --prefix=$HOME/local/ --enable-gnutls=yes --enable-consoleui -with-x=no

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-10 Thread Eric Furman
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:20:58 -0500, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If you want to see what we really say about this, visit that URL and read the whole three paragraphs. You mean what you say about it this week. The text in

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Tobias Weingartner
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nikns Siankin wrote: # Stable release cycle. If you want to run latest bugfree ClamAV or FireFox - upgrade to CURRENT! But don't forget to buy release CD's!!! Well, by buying the release CD you get a fairly secure method of getting the majority of the

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Rico Secada
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:33:57 -0600 Tony Abernethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikns Siankin wrote: I see people keep repeating nonsense like this instead of talking about topic. At least he can read. And think. Leave the troll alone, he wants someone to play with, and he got that.

Error on make obj with read-only /usr/src

2008-01-10 Thread Christer Solskogen
# make obj === lib === lib/csu === lib/csu/alpha /usr/src/lib/csu/alpha/obj - /usr/obj/lib/csu/alpha === lib/csu/arm /usr/src/lib/csu/arm/obj - /usr/obj/lib/csu/arm === lib/csu/hppa /usr/src/lib/csu/hppa/obj - /usr/obj/lib/csu/hppa === lib/csu/i386 /usr/src/lib/csu/i386/obj -

Re: Intel DQ35MP

2008-01-10 Thread rivo nurges
Hi! I had same problem with DQ965GF, DSDT was overwritten by msgbuf. As a quick hack I changed msgbuf size and it solved my problem. I haven't had time to debug it further. Index: sys/arch/i386/include/param.h === RCS file:

kernel_map out of virtual space panic on different hardware within hours of difference

2008-01-10 Thread Martín Coco
Hi misc, I'm having frequent crashes on OpenBSD 4.2 (stable) on different machines with the following error: panic: pmap_pinit: kernel_map out of virtual space! Specifically, we have two carped firewalls (running pfsync) that showed the same error with a difference of around 8 hours. First the

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Tobias Weingartner
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nikns Siankin wrote: I don't believe anymore, that someone from side can make it better. The only people who could make it better are talking to community only when release CD needs to get sold or donations are needed. So you think that the community at

Re: Building Finch (Pidgin), ncurses issue.

2008-01-10 Thread Ted Unangst
On 1/10/08, Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: checking for X... disabled checking for initscr in -lncursesw... no checking for update_panels in -lpanelw... no checking for initscr in -lncurses... yes checking for update_panels in -lpanel... no configure: error: Finch will not be built. You need

SUM TOTAL OF RMS's PHILOSOPHY

2008-01-10 Thread Siju George
On Jan 7, 2008 9:48 AM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't carry a mobile phone, but I don't see anything wrong in borrowing one from someone to make a call. So if it is a new model of cell phone and if the owner teaches you how to use it and make life easy for you

ALTQ : HTB packet scheduler

2008-01-10 Thread Frédéric Plé
Hello, Does anybody knows if an HTB packet scheduler is available on OpenBSD ? Regards,

Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?

2008-01-10 Thread elpinguim
On 12/20/07, Selva Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Raimo, Here is the brief about the proposed setup. This would be a test bed for Information Assurance business. To summarise the lab will have Firewalls /OpenBSD 4.2 / PF VPN / OpenBSD 4.2 / Openvpn SSH / OpenBSD 4.2 / Openssh Mail

ssh controlling question

2008-01-10 Thread James Mackinnon
Hi All Just a little question on something I'm working on I have say 50 accounts on a box. 40 of which I want the users to connect from ANY IP address 10 of which I want the users to only be allowed to connect from a specific IP address that is assigned to them. Is there a feature to control

64 bit file I/O?

2008-01-10 Thread Unix Fan
Does OpenBSD's base utilities support 64 bit I/O? I attempted to create a 8GB file using the dd application distributed with OpenBSD 4.2, unfortunately it fails with: dd: count: Result too large Confused, I tried making the size smaller, and noticed it bails out at exactly 4294967295

Re: ssh controlling question

2008-01-10 Thread Kevin Wilcox
James Mackinnon wrote: Hi All Just a little question on something I'm working on I have say 50 accounts on a box. 40 of which I want the users to connect from ANY IP address 10 of which I want the users to only be allowed to connect from a specific IP address that is assigned to them. Is

Re: ssh controlling question

2008-01-10 Thread Darrin Chandler
Check the sshd_config(5) man page for the section on Match conditional blocks. On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 04:53:45PM -0400, James Mackinnon wrote: Hi All Just a little question on something I'm working on I have say 50 accounts on a box. 40 of which I want the users to connect from ANY IP

Re: 64 bit file I/O?

2008-01-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008/01/10 14:17, Unix Fan wrote: Does OpenBSD's base utilities support 64 bit I/O? I attempted to create a 8GB file using the dd application distributed with OpenBSD 4.2, unfortunately it fails with: dd: count: Result too large Confused, I tried making the size smaller, and noticed

Re: 64 bit file I/O?

2008-01-10 Thread Ted Unangst
On 10 Jan 2008 14:17:43 -0800, Unix Fan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does OpenBSD's base utilities support 64 bit I/O? I attempted to create a 8GB file using the dd application distributed with OpenBSD 4.2, unfortunately it fails with: dd: count: Result too large Confused, I tried

Re: 64 bit file I/O?

2008-01-10 Thread Mats O Jansson
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, Unix Fan wrote: Does OpenBSD's base utilities support 64 bit I/O? I attempted to create a 8GB file using the dd application distributed with OpenBSD 4.2, unfortunately it fails with: dd: count: Result too large Confused, I tried making the size smaller, and noticed it

Re: Building Finch (Pidgin), ncurses issue.

2008-01-10 Thread Jon
Ted Unangst wrote: On 1/10/08, Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: checking for X... disabled checking for initscr in -lncursesw... no checking for update_panels in -lpanelw... no checking for initscr in -lncurses... yes checking for update_panels in -lpanel... no configure: error: Finch will

Re: 64 bit file I/O?

2008-01-10 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 02:17:43PM -0800, Unix Fan wrote: Does OpenBSD's base utilities support 64 bit I/O? I attempted to create a 8GB file using the dd application distributed with OpenBSD 4.2, unfortunately it fails with: dd: count: Result too large Confused, I tried

Re: SUM TOTAL OF RMS's PHILOSOPHY

2008-01-10 Thread nicodache
Enough of this FUD. Go hang yourself please. Thanks On Jan 10, 2008 9:27 PM, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 7, 2008 9:48 AM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't carry a mobile phone, but I don't see anything wrong in borrowing one from someone to make a

SSH Brute Force Attacks Abound - and thanks!

2008-01-10 Thread Ken
A practical example, real life, last night. I was replacing my hard drive on my home broadband OBSD firewall, and it was taking a few minutes to copy over the old pf.conf and enable the firewall. I had installed the latest snapshot as a fresh image and restarted. It took a little while to

Re: 64 bit file I/O?

2008-01-10 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 02:36:15PM -0800, Ted Unangst wrote: On 10 Jan 2008 14:17:43 -0800, Unix Fan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does OpenBSD's base utilities support 64 bit I/O? I attempted to create a 8GB file using the dd application distributed with OpenBSD 4.2, unfortunately it

Re: Intel DQ35MP

2008-01-10 Thread weingart
In gmane.os.openbsd.misc, you wrote: I had same problem with DQ965GF, DSDT was overwritten by msgbuf. As a quick hack I changed msgbuf size and it solved my problem. I haven't had time to debug it further. Index: sys/arch/i386/include/param.h

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-10 Thread chefren
On 1/10/08 6:18 PM, Eric Furman wrote: OK, I will explain it to you because I am tired of you *not* *getting* *it*. The software is simultaneously available as a CD (actually DVD) Please stop/halt/finish/end... It's a CD set, 3 CD's in a DVD box. set you can purchase and as a free

Re: 64 bit file I/O?

2008-01-10 Thread Unix Fan
Apologies, I was using a larger count size, which is restricted by a 32bit variable. (size_t). FreeBSD's dd is 64 bit safe for all options... might be worth looking into. Darrin Chandler wrote: Ted Unangst wrote: what bs are you using? Try to be more polite, please. He wasn't

Re: 64 bit file I/O?

2008-01-10 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 04:49:42PM -0800, Unix Fan wrote: Darrin Chandler wrote: Ted Unangst wrote: what bs are you using? Try to be more polite, please. He wasn't being rude, bs the block size option for the dd command... which I the slow idiot. had set to 1.. Yes, I know.

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:24:33 +0200 Nikns Siankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 09:56:01PM +1100, Rod Whitworth wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:00:53 +0200, Nikns Siankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] We have had several pointless trolls too many lately. As a result your

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-10 Thread Sunnz
2008/1/9, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 02:06:56PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: | Yet, this firmware can be upgraded and OpenBSD will | automatically do this if it detects older firmware on your NIC. You | can choose another operating system that does

Re: SSH Brute Force Attacks Abound - and thanks!

2008-01-10 Thread Obiozor Okeke
Wow, I read your email and checked my authlog and was astounded by the number hack attempts. Thankfully, I configured my OpenBSD firewall with recommended access controls. Thanks to all the dedicated OpenBSD developers and community! Support the project and encourage the purchase of more

Re: kernel_map out of virtual space panic on different hardware within hours of difference

2008-01-10 Thread Richard Toohey
On 11/01/2008, at 7:47 AM, Martmn Coco wrote: Hi misc, I'm having frequent crashes on OpenBSD 4.2 (stable) on different machines with the following error: panic: pmap_pinit: kernel_map out of virtual space! Specifically, we have two carped firewalls (running pfsync) that showed the same

Re: strftime bug?

2008-01-10 Thread Philip Guenther
On Jan 10, 2008 12:41 AM, Duncan Patton a Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 21:51:01 -0700 Philip Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) pass the same size value to malloc() and strftime(), and Ya, this is it. Needs to be the sizeof the input buffer + 2. Why? Since the

Re: Open Source Article Spawns Interesting Ethical Question

2008-01-10 Thread chefren
On 1/10/08 1:09 AM, Tobias Weingartner wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], chefren wrote: On 1/8/08 11:28 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: 2. Same NIC without flash/ROM bad Eh, that's just a meaningless pile of transistors. Surely you jest? An FPGA is a meaningless pile of transistors?

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-10 Thread Karl Karlsson
2008/1/9, Diana Eichert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Well, you can hook up ISDN TAs with a serial port that look like a dial-up modem (AT command set etc.). However, I think these have long since disappeared from the market. -- Christian naddy

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Nikns Siankin
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 05:07:35PM -0600, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: Facts about Nikns Siankin: # Whiner. He bitches incessantly about stuff and does nothing to fix it. # Jerk. He ignores that most of the development time that goes into # Misleading. He claims the system is distributed on

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-10 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/1/9, Peter N. M. Hansteen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: straightforward to use it via ppp. Otherwise, I think ISDN is one of those technologies a significant part of the OpenBSD population would be very happy to suppress any remaining memories of. Only the non-Germans. But you north-americans have

Re: Open Source Article Spawns Interesting Ethical Question

2008-01-10 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:33:41AM +0100, chefren wrote: On 1/10/08 1:09 AM, Tobias Weingartner wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], chefren wrote: On 1/8/08 11:28 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: 2. Same NIC without flash/ROM bad Eh, that's just a meaningless pile of transistors. Surely you

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:00:53 +0200, Nikns Siankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 05:07:35PM -0600, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: Facts about Nikns Siankin: # Whiner. He bitches incessantly about stuff and does nothing to fix it. # Jerk. He ignores that most of the development

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Joerg Zinke
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 23:03:29 +0200 Nikns Siankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Facts about OpenBSD: # Stable release cycle. If you want to run latest bugfree ClamAV or FireFox - upgrade to CURRENT! But don't forget to buy release CD's!!! if you do not like to use CURRENT, send a patch which

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-10 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Martin Schrvder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only the non-Germans. But you north-americans have probably also never expierenced the wonders of DECT or GSM... :-) It's possible ISDN was done right in Germany. Up here in Norway, it was the last-gasp attempt at abusing a monopoly position before

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Nikns Siankin
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 09:56:01PM +1100, Rod Whitworth wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:00:53 +0200, Nikns Siankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] We have had several pointless trolls too many lately. As a result your pointless humour does not raise a laugh. Stay on-topic or fuck off like jacob

Re: Open Source Article Spawns Interesting Ethical Question

2008-01-10 Thread chefren
On 1/10/08 11:10 AM, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:33:41AM +0100, chefren wrote: On 1/10/08 1:09 AM, Tobias Weingartner wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], chefren wrote: On 1/8/08 11:28 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: 2. Same NIC without flash/ROM bad Eh, that's just a

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Edd Barrett
Hello, On Jan 9, 2008 9:03 PM, Nikns Siankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Facts about OpenBSD: # Stable release cycle. If you want to run latest bugfree ClamAV or FireFox - upgrade to CURRENT! But don't forget to buy release CD's!!! # Secure By Default. OpenBSD uses broken WEP for

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-10 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 12:11:46AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can stop the GPL propaganda here. We have wasted enough time rehashing it. You are not going to convince anybody here that some random person has more rights than the author of the software. The end, get over it,

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Nikns Siankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only people who could make it better are talking to community only when release CD needs to get sold or donations are needed. This tells me mainly you don't actually read the OpenBSD mailing lists. Damn, misc@ used to have such a nice signal to

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Nikns Siankin
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 11:56:15AM +0100, Joerg Zinke wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 23:03:29 +0200 Nikns Siankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Facts about OpenBSD: # Stable release cycle. If you want to run latest bugfree ClamAV or FireFox - upgrade to CURRENT! But don't forget to buy release

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Nikns Siankin
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 12:43:48PM +, Edd Barrett wrote: Hello, A lot of this is down to manpower or lack thereof. You can make it better if you put some effort in. Failing that, If it's so bad, then why don't you use another operating system? Hi, I don't believe anymore, that someone from

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Nikns Siankin
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 07:02:16PM +0530, Amarendra Godbole wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 6:14 PM, Nikns Siankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I get lot of response offlist. It seems that people are afraid to discuss these issues onlist, guess because of this YOURE WHINER or DONT LIKE DONT USE

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Amarendra Godbole
On Jan 10, 2008 6:14 PM, Nikns Siankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I get lot of response offlist. It seems that people are afraid to discuss these issues onlist, guess because of this YOURE WHINER or DONT LIKE DONT USE attitude. [...] I am relatively new to OpenBSD, I am merely a user, and

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Curt Micol
Amen to this. On Jan 10, 2008 8:18 AM, Peter N. M. Hansteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, misc@ used to have such a nice signal to noise ratio. -- # Curt Micol Today is the tomorrow I was so worried about yesterday. -Anthony Hopkins

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Curt Micol
On Jan 10, 2008 8:39 AM, Nikns Siankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see people keep repeating nonsense like this instead of talking about topic. This is due to the fact that people don't feel your thoughts are on topic. Bitch elsewhere, thats what blogs are for. Leave misc@ for those people who

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Nikns Siankin
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 09:04:52AM -0500, Curt Micol wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 8:39 AM, Nikns Siankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see people keep repeating nonsense like this instead of talking about topic. This is due to the fact that people don't feel your thoughts are on topic. Bitch elsewhere,

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Michael Schmidt
Amarendra Godbole schrieb: On Jan 10, 2008 6:14 PM, Nikns Siankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I get lot of response offlist. It seems that people... [...] I am relatively new to OpenBSD, I am merely a user, and I read the misc@ list always. I do my homework mostly before

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008/01/10 14:44, Nikns Siankin wrote: # Do not let serious problems sit unsolved. OpenBSD doesn't need MAC because it has their own security flawed systrace. i do not get the point. seriously, have you ever used systrace? Sure I do, but it's flawed now anyway. even flawed,

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-10 Thread Kevin Wilcox
Tony Abernethy wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not out to convince anyone that anyone has any more rights than anyone else. HOWEVER, the original author DOES have more rights than anyone else. In particular, the original author says who has what rights. You have no say in the matter.

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-10 Thread Kevin Wilcox
Tony Abernethy wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was pointing out that you could release the alpha/beta/testing software under whatever license you choose that will keep it from being re-distributed Huh??? What kind of release is not re-distributed? By redistribute I do not mean the

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-10 Thread Kevin Wilcox
Marco Peereboom wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 12:11:46AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not out to convince anyone that anyone has any more rights than anyone else. What I *was* doing was bringing that particular portion of the conversation back to more than just baseless bashing of a

Re: Intel DQ35MP

2008-01-10 Thread Marcos Laufer
Hello , i tried updating the BIOS to the newest one, removed one ram stick, installed latest snapshot and also tried disabling APM as you adviced me. When booting with bsd it doesn't recognize the devices just like before. Now i also tried booting with bsd.mp instead of bsd , and i get this