Re: Unable to use serial terminal on COM1/tty00 unless set tty com0 used...

2009-06-23 Thread Jason Girard
Of course we got it working an hour after my post with the help of efnet #OpenBSD (cable wasn't as correct as we thought it was, CD was left hanging). Setting clocal on the tty corrected it. It would be kinda nice to know why it DID work when console was redirected to the serial port, since s

Re: OpenBSD 4.4: dnsbl just for port 25 (not msa 587)

2009-06-23 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
Hi, I added the FEATURE(`delay_checks') in the .mc file, keep it the line "DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Address=0.0.0.0, Port=587, Name=MSA M=Ea')dnl" and it seems everything is so far so good. I take note about the file on /usr/share/doc/smm/08.sendmailop too. Thanks so much both of you.

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Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Ted Unangst wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Daniel Bolgheroni > wrote: > > > 3. What I should not question in an OpenBSD mailing list? > > The development process. It's a good bet that the people who have > been developing OpenBSD for 10 years know more about how

Unable to use serial terminal on COM1/tty00 unless set tty com0 used...

2009-06-23 Thread Jason Girard
Hello all. I've been settings up a serial terminal for my box, and I've run into some issues. When 'set tty com0' is NOT used... I can `tip tty00` and talk to the terminal (PuTTY serial on WinXP) just fine, chatting back and forth. Setting up getty on cua00 ('cua00 "/usr/libexec/getty" std.960

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Daniel Bolgheroni wrote: > 1. Why we use cvs? It works [enough]. > 2. Why we don't WANT to use svn, git, etc.? See above. Also, why would we want to? (Don't answer that, you're wrong.) > 3. What I should not question in an OpenBSD mailing list? The developme

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Fernando Quintero wrote: > Hello list, > > I have a question: > > I was reading about version control systems and i found a lot of the > distributed software "with best performance", but really i don't know much > about it. > There are some technicals or philosophicals reaso

Re: Updates to several OpenBSD hosts

2009-06-23 Thread Aaron Mason
Hi, Here's an idea I had - it involved a combination of binpatches and release packages. What you would do is have a central server with the required binpatches and packages to install and set up scripts to run on shutdown, then when you want to update a server, simply reboot, and the changes wil

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2009-06-23 Thread Info
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Re: Updates to several OpenBSD hosts

2009-06-23 Thread Rogier Krieger
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 22:27, Urban Hillebrand wrote: > My aploogies for being unclear. Those hosts are all on different > locations and nets, even belong to different companies. You could try using tools such as cfengine and/or puppet (both are in ports) to have them pull in their configuration

Re: Updates to several OpenBSD hosts

2009-06-23 Thread Urban Hillebrand
Han Boetes wrote: > I'd like to suggest using netboot. So you need only one server to > maintain and for the rest all you have to do is restart services > or reboot the rest. My aploogies for being unclear. Those hosts are all on different locations and nets, even belong to different companies. I

Re: Updates to several OpenBSD hosts

2009-06-23 Thread Han Boetes
I'd like to suggest using netboot. So you need only one server to maintain and for the rest all you have to do is restart services or reboot the rest. # Han

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
>>[...] > >>To assume that it is not superiour in the particular application >>to which it is being put is also ridiculous. Having 1000 extra >>features you don't use and will never use is not an advantage. > >If one hasn't tried it out, it's difficult to assume one would never use >features like d

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Marco Peereboom wrote: I used git twice. Once I lost hours worth of work and the second time it munged instead of merged the code. No thanks. If it works for you great, now stop evangelizing some retarded versioning system that will never, ever, ever, ever, ever be used in OpenBSD. since

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Anil Madhavapeddy
On 23 Jun 2009, at 13:17, Hannah Schroeter wrote: Hi! On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:16:12PM +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: Pretty much every single new revision control system can import/ export from CVS, so use whatever you want... I tried git cvsimport on OpenBSD's tree and it failed, alas.

Re: OpenBSD 4.4: dnsbl just for port 25 (not msa 587)

2009-06-23 Thread Dan Harnett
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 07:33:15AM -0700, Philip Guenther wrote: > Hmm, this seems to not match the documentation in > /usr/share/doc/smm/08.sendmailop: the meaning you give for the 'a' and > 'l' flags are correct for the srv_features ruleset, but not for the > DaemonPortOptions option. My mistake

Re: OpenBSD 4.4: dnsbl just for port 25 (not msa 587)

2009-06-23 Thread Philip Guenther
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Dan Harnett wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 07:19:09PM -0600, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: >> >>According to the /usr/share/sendmail/README file, it is necessary to >> add the "a" modifier to the line that define the MSA: "Additionally, by >> using the M=a mo

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Marco Peereboom
I used git twice. Once I lost hours worth of work and the second time it munged instead of merged the code. No thanks. If it works for you great, now stop evangelizing some retarded versioning system that will never, ever, ever, ever, ever be used in OpenBSD. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 03:16:59PM

Updates to several OpenBSD hosts

2009-06-23 Thread Urban Hillebrand
Dear list, I am seeking advice on how to keep several almost identical OpenBSD installations up to date over several years / releases if possible. I have 6-10 OpenBSD firewall/gateway/proxy hosts running, all with the following tasks: - pf - squid - postfix / amavisd / clamd - openvpn - ... and a

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Landry Breuil
Hi, can we please stop this ? Some devs are aware of dvcs advantages, some use them locally for their own developments, some share things between some devs using dvcs public repos, some thinks that CVS has some weaknesses (which *might* be adressed in opencvs, once it is feature-compliant with gnu

Re: swapmount: no device

2009-06-23 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 06:34:48PM +0530, Siju George wrote: > Hi, > > I have swap mounted on my raid0b partition. > > # disklabel raid0 > # /dev/rraid0c: > type: RAID > disk: raid > label: fictitious > flags: > bytes/sector: 512 > sectors/track: 128 > tracks/cylinder: 8 > sectors/cylinder: 1024

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 07:39:41AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: >Manure alert! >On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 02:16:39PM +0200, Hannah Schroeter wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 02:11:21PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: >> >What is wrong with CVS? And no I am not talking about the hypotheticals >

swapmount: no device

2009-06-23 Thread Siju George
Hi, I have swap mounted on my raid0b partition. # disklabel raid0 # /dev/rraid0c: type: RAID disk: raid label: fictitious flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 128 tracks/cylinder: 8 sectors/cylinder: 1024 cylinders: 225669 total sectors: 231085824 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinders

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Marco Peereboom
Manure alert! On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 02:16:39PM +0200, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > Hi! > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 02:11:21PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: > >What is wrong with CVS? And no I am not talking about the hypotheticals > >and some bugs that exist in the current code (that can also be

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 08:11:42AM -0400, Kenneth R Westerback wrote: >[...] >To assume that it is not superiour in the particular application >to which it is being put is also ridiculous. Having 1000 extra >features you don't use and will never use is not an advantage. If one hasn't tried i

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:48:33PM +0200, Artur Grabowski wrote: >Mic J writes: But to imply that CVS is better than (or equal to) Mercurial or Git is a bit ridiculous :) >Mercurial and Git are crap. Why do you think so? My experiences with git are quite good. >[...] >>Fr

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:58:04PM -0500, Eugene Prodeguene wrote: >[...] >http://www.openbsd.org/why-cvs.html >Because none of the above mentioned will allow for 70+ developers to >update ~1.2GB/~140,000 files of source code, allow anonymous checkouts, >has an available web based interface

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 02:11:21PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: >What is wrong with CVS? And no I am not talking about the hypotheticals >and some bugs that exist in the current code (that can also be easily >worked around). - It's *slow* (once you've seen git's speed, both cvs and svn are

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:16:12PM +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >Pretty much every single new revision control system can import/export >from CVS, so use whatever you want... I tried git cvsimport on OpenBSD's tree and it failed, alas. cvs2svn doesn't grok some peculiarities of OpenBSD's

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 07:13:51PM -0700, Mike Swanson wrote: > Paul M wrote: > >On 23/06/2009, at 6:44 AM, Fernando Quintero wrote: > > > >>Hello list, > >> > >>I have a question: > >> > >>I was reading about version control systems and i found a lot of the > >>distributed software "with best perf

A Range Rover in FWB

2009-06-23 Thread Ed Ahlsen-Girard
Somebody in my town, in fact from my neighborhood, drives a white Range Rover with Puffy, OpenBSD and OpenSSH stickers. So, if you're on misc@, hey. Ed Ahlsen-Girard [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type APPLICATION/DEFANGED which had a name of eagirard.15181DEFANGED-vcf]

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Artur Grabowski
Mic J writes: >>> But to >>> imply that CVS is better than (or equal to) Mercurial or Git is a bit >>> ridiculous :) Mercurial and Git are crap. >> Because none of the above mentioned will allow for 70+ developers to >> update ~1.2GB/~140,000 files of source code, allow anonymous checkouts, >>

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

2009-06-23 Thread Mic J
I was reading about version control systems and i found a lot of the distributed software "with best performance", but really i don't know much about it. There are some technicals or philosophicals reasons why the OpenBSD repository does not change to something other t