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Re: Performance problems with OpenBSD 4.9 under ESXi 5

2011-10-23 Thread Gene
This problem appears to be resolved. By changing the guest os type from "FreeBSD (64-bit)" to "Other (64-bit)" these vm guests perform much better. I found out I could easily duplicate the problem with the following command: find / -type f -exec grep -i moo {} \; After ten or so minutes dmesg w

Re: dhclient, resolv.conf

2011-10-23 Thread Andres Perera
the dhclient in base, and possibly the isc one, interprets options set to the empty string as unset On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 1:38 PM, wrote: > Jurjen Oskam wrote: > >> supersede domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1; >> supersede domain-name ""; > > My dhclient completely ignores > > B supersede doma

Re: OpenBSD recommendation

2011-10-23 Thread David Riley
On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Daniel Villarreal wrote: > Zantgo, > Just to get you started, I recommend just installing OpenBSD 4.9 for now, on > a dedicated hard drive, so you can get a basic setup going. > > Let me know how it goes. > > take care, > Daniel Villarreal I'll echo that; you would do

OpenBSD recommendation

2011-10-23 Thread Daniel Villarreal
Zantgo, Just to get you started, I recommend just installing OpenBSD 4.9 for now, on a dedicated hard drive, so you can get a basic setup going. Let me know how it goes. take care, Daniel Villarreal

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Daniel Villarreal
Zantgo, No te preocupes. It takes time to get used to any operating system. I'm happy to see you at least try to communicate in Spanish, at least you're making an effort. You can cook a CD for your architecture... ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/ Have a nice day. Saludos, Daniel Vill

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Amit Kulkarni
>> -current for my laptop is TOTALLY BROKEN right now. >> I am building a modified version of -current right now. the only reason was for you was kettenis@ http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/arch/amd64/pci/pci_machdep.c "I'm sick and tired of people doing misalgned reads and writes to

Re: Debugging apcupsd with Back-UPS CS 500

2011-10-23 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:21:14PM +0200, T. Ribbrock wrote: > I am in need of some help with debugging the UPS set-up I am running... > I have an APC Back-UPS CS 500 connected to my server (OpenBSD 4.8) with > an USB cable. When I connect the UPS to the server, I get this in dmesg: > ugen0 at uhu

Re: man page sources?

2011-10-23 Thread Amit Kulkarni
> Oh right. 5.1 is going to be the first release where all > machine-dependent manuals for all architectures will be > installed on all other architectures as well, such that > there is no longer any risk that you miss whole pages for, > say, the binutils of the GCC 2 era just because you happen >

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:45:22AM -0500, Chris Bennett wrote: > I am going to give this guy a possible useful hint. > > -current for my laptop is TOTALLY BROKEN right now. > I am building a modified version of -current right now. > > This version may or may NOT work. > > -current is OFTEN BROKE

Re: mnemosyne

2011-10-23 Thread Chris Bennett
Yes, that fixed it. On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:34:45PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > > Can you install py-Imaging and see if this fixes your issue. > Thanks. > > -- > Antoine

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Zantgo wrote: > Please do not offend! I'm not a fool, and if you do not want to help, please > do not comment. > > Zantgo > > El 23-10-2011, a las 16:25, Marc Espie escribiC3: > >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:33:58AM -0300, Marcos Ariel Laufer wrote: >>> This idiot

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Zantgo
Please do not offend! I'm not a fool, and if you do not want to help, please do not comment. Zantgo El 23-10-2011, a las 16:25, Marc Espie escribiC3: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:33:58AM -0300, Marcos Ariel Laufer wrote: >> This idiot, zantgo, has been bothering everybody on a mexican (spanish

Re: Performance problems with OpenBSD 4.9 under ESXi 5

2011-10-23 Thread carlopmart
On 10/23/2011 09:10 PM, Gene wrote: This is just an update, I've still got to try everything that was suggested before. This issue is finally occurring again, and I have been able to collect more information about it: # uptime 11:46AM up 3 days, 22:50, 1 user, load averages: 1.33, 1.12, 1.10

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:33:58AM -0300, Marcos Ariel Laufer wrote: > This idiot, zantgo, has been bothering everybody on a mexican (spanish > speaking) openbsd list and refusing to read the faq or manuals. > Imagine that on that mailing list they tend to help everybody including > the least adv

Re: Performance problems with OpenBSD 4.9 under ESXi 5

2011-10-23 Thread Gene
This is just an update, I've still got to try everything that was suggested before. This issue is finally occurring again, and I have been able to collect more information about it: # uptime 11:46AM up 3 days, 22:50, 1 user, load averages: 1.33, 1.12, 1.10 # ps aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VS

Re: how to use the new rc.d system to start the daemon with systrace?

2011-10-23 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Stuart Henderson wrote on Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:17:11AM +: > On 2011-10-21, johnw wrote: >> after upgrade to current, now /etc/rc use the new rc.d system. >> my question is how to start the daemon(ntpd, named etc ..) with systrace? >> before upgrade to new rc.d system, i can edit /etc/rc li

Re: man page sources?

2011-10-23 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Theo de Raadt wrote on Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:01:18PM -0600: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Regarding the brute force approach, good luck backporting the >> build system changes 28 times (from 5.0 to 2.2), demonstrating >> that the backport is correct and not missing any manuals in any >> version, an

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Zantgo
Okay then-current is not for me, maybe the snapshots?, you can upgrade from one snapshot to another?, along with the ports? Zantgo El 23-10-2011, a las 14:06, Chris Bennett escribiC3: > OK, I was exaggerating just to get the point across firmly. > > Using -current can occasionally be complicate

Re: man page sources?

2011-10-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Regarding the brute force approach, good luck backporting the > build system changes 28 times (from 5.0 to 2.2), demonstrating > that the backport is correct and not missing any manuals in any > version, and then finding a machine that is still in working order, > able to run 2.2, and fast enough

Re: man page sources?

2011-10-23 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Douglas, Christian Weisgerber wrote on Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 05:27:06PM +: > Douglas Ray wrote: >> If I get anywhere useful, might there be any interest in >> posting a "manman49.tgz" on ftp.openbsd.org? ... a small >> addendum, for those of us bitten by OpenBSD 4.9's little >> excursion f

Re: man page sources?

2011-10-23 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Douglas Ray wrote: > If I get anywhere useful, might there be any interest in > posting a "manman49.tgz" on ftp.openbsd.org? ... a small > addendum, for those of us bitten by OpenBSD 4.9's little > excursion from BSD habit? OpenBSD has only ever installed the cat pages. That "little excursion"

Re: Patch for dhclient.8 and dhclient.c

2011-10-23 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Argh! - besides everything what jmc@ said, it should have been the following diff *for sure*: diff --git a/sbin/dhclient/dhclient.8 b/sbin/dhclient/dhclient.8 index 9d77c7e..b6094c1 100644 --- a/sbin/dhclient/dhclient.8 +++ b/sbin/dhclient/dhclient.8 @@ -57,6 +57,16 @@ The name of the network inte

Re: Patch for dhclient.8 and dhclient.c

2011-10-23 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Jason McIntyre wrote [2011-10-22 16:24+0200]: > i will look at it. but i'm pretty sure we won;t want that. > > jmc Thanks for looking at *that* anyway! It was the wrong source diff from somewhere in between. I can't comment on 'egress' otherwise. ifconfig.8 talks about default route(s), and get

Re: Todays snapshot won't boot laptop

2011-10-23 Thread Chris Bennett
Yes, that worked great. Thanks

Re: dhclient, resolv.conf

2011-10-23 Thread scire
Jurjen Oskam wrote: > supersede domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1; > supersede domain-name ""; My dhclient completely ignores supersede domain-name ""; and sets an unwanted search line given by the server. Indeed you must give supersede domain-name "."; To obtain search . in reso

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Chris Bennett
OK, I was exaggerating just to get the point across firmly. Using -current can occasionally be complicated. But answers come along to problems quickly. Very quickly. My problem is now fixed after applying a patch and compiling. Voila! Problem solved. I like running -current. The occasional probl

5.0 showing up yesterday here

2011-10-23 Thread K . André Braselmann
Hi there, 5.0 yesterday showed up here in Eastfrisia, Germany, Thanks a lot for the hard work to all the developers Also the art is great. Andri

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
> -current is OFTEN BROKEN. Don't be ridiculous. I just had a machine room downtime for 2 weeks, due to some rewiring, moving some machines, and placing new UPS's into various places, etc, etc. I just brought my machines up, and all the architectures are compiling just fine. Including architec

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Chris Bennett
I am going to give this guy a possible useful hint. -current for my laptop is TOTALLY BROKEN right now. I am building a modified version of -current right now. This version may or may NOT work. -current is OFTEN BROKEN. -current is often broken just for certain particular computers. -current oft

Re: man page sources?

2011-10-23 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 03:04:41AM +1100, Douglas Ray wrote: > > If I get anywhere useful, might there be any interest in > posting a "manman49.tgz" on ftp.openbsd.org? ... a small > addendum, for those of us bitten by OpenBSD 4.9's little > excursion from BSD habit? > note that ingo discussed 4

Re: man page sources?

2011-10-23 Thread Ted Unangst
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011, Douglas Ray wrote: > If I get anywhere useful, might there be any interest in > posting a "manman49.tgz" on ftp.openbsd.org? ... a small > addendum, for those of us bitten by OpenBSD 4.9's little > excursion from BSD habit? No, the man sources are already in the source tree.

Re: man page sources?

2011-10-23 Thread Douglas Ray
Ingo and Jason, thanks... On 23/10/2011 11:14 PM, Ingo Schwarze wrote: Hi Douglas, Jason McIntyre wrote on Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 03:27:11PM +0100: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 01:01:41AM +1100, Douglas Ray wrote: OpenBSD 4.9 has /usr/share/man/cat* populated, but not /usr/share/man/man[0-9n] . Wh

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Gonzalo L. R.
http://i51.tinypic.com/2lktbvs.jpg El 10/23/11 12:14, Zantgo escribiC3: You do not worry, I will literally what it says on the guide listed below, if I have problems they notice. http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html PS: I did this for those who just want me off the list, understand that I am

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Maxim Bourmistrov
I see, you want it hard way. Well, pulling in and installing -current is considered to be un-supported. You have to think over it one more time. I myself been dealing with broken installs and it is hard, and no one will ever answer to you questions... ... Because YOU SHOULD NOT INSTALL -current IF

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Zantgo
You do not worry, I will literally what it says on the guide listed below, if I have problems they notice. http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html PS: I did this for those who just want me off the list, understand that I am not a lazy TROLL, I'm just a newbie in OpenBSD, as it is very true that a Li

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Maxim Bourmistrov
Try one more time, if no success - give up and stay on whatever you have right now. On Oct 23, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Zantgo wrote: > !!I read the FAQ, becouse I don't understand this > > Zantgo > > El 23-10-2011, a las 10:33, Marcos Ariel Laufer > escribiC3: > >> This idiot, zantgo, has been b

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Zantgo
!!I read the FAQ, becouse I don't understand this Zantgo El 23-10-2011, a las 10:33, Marcos Ariel Laufer escribiC3: > This idiot, zantgo, has been bothering everybody on a mexican (spanish > speaking) openbsd list and refusing to read the faq or manuals. > Imagine that on that mailing list

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Marcos Ariel Laufer
This idiot, zantgo, has been bothering everybody on a mexican (spanish speaking) openbsd list and refusing to read the faq or manuals. Imagine that on that mailing list they tend to help everybody including the least advanced users, and he's been kicked off anyway. Zantgo wrote: > El 22-10-2011

Re: do not understand how to upgrade to-CURRENT

2011-10-23 Thread Zantgo
El 22-10-2011, a las 16:53, Andres Perera escribiC3: > 2011/10/22 Zantgo : >> Do not understand how to upgrade to-current, which I have to go manual: >> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html (ie follow exactly what EICE and once there has constr from the source system, you are dealing -Current)

Re: dhclient, resolv.conf

2011-10-23 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:08:22AM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: > On Oct 22 04:41:56, Philippe Meunier wrote: > > Kenneth R Westerback wrote: > > >If you are using dhclient, then /etc/resolv.conf is not really a > > >configuration file. > > > > Unless your machine runs its own DNS server. > > Just ou

Re: man page sources?

2011-10-23 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Douglas, Jason McIntyre wrote on Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 03:27:11PM +0100: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 01:01:41AM +1100, Douglas Ray wrote: >> OpenBSD 4.9 has /usr/share/man/cat* populated, but not >> /usr/share/man/man[0-9n] . >> >> What options are there to populate man[0-9n]/ ? >> A complete bu

Re: smtpd failed to start after upgrade to -current

2011-10-23 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 07:01:08PM -0300, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera wrote: > On 2011-10-22 18:38, Gilles Chehade wrote: > > Nope, there is no easy way, your only way out is to downgrade to the > > previous > > OpenSMTPD-current to flush your queue, then upgrade again. > > Ok, I'll give that a try and

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Re: Polite enquiry as to if anyone is working on 64 bit time_t, and if so, what's the plan?

2011-10-23 Thread Bruce Drake
On 21/10/2011 12:33 AM, Henning Brauer wrote: > * Janne Johansson [2011-10-20 15:11]: >> What I meant was as you say, we can change the include file to say "use 64 >> bits for time" and recompile some apps, but if the database file format or >> the over-the-wire formats don't support 64 bits for s