Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread lists
Sun, 19 Jun 2016 23:05:34 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:01 PM, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > > > Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:35:04 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> ... > >> Ok. Thanks for the

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:01 PM, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:35:04 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn >> Sent from my iPhone >> ... >> Ok. Thanks for the seller advice. > > Who said it's seller advice? I said your idea is not a good idea at all.

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread lists
Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:35:04 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn > Sent from my iPhone > ... > Ok. Thanks for the seller advice. Who said it's seller advice? I said your idea is not a good idea at all.

Re: Randomish Reboots on Current

2016-06-19 Thread Philip Guenther
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Daniel Wilkins wrote: > Has anyone else been hvaing random reboots on current? The system freezes up > for > maybe 30 seconds or so, then reboots. I have a hunch that it's something with > my > wifi card because occasionally during a reboot

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2016, at 2:58 PM, li...@wrant.com wrote: >>> Sun, 19 Jun 2016 13:27:09 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn I am not unable to upgrade. I choose not to at this time. > >>> On Jun 19, 2016, at 1:59 PM, li...@wrant.com wrote: >>> "I am not unable to

Re: Corrections to the Release Song Lyrics page

2016-06-19 Thread lists
Sun, 19 Jun 2016 17:35:39 -0700 Philip Guenther > >> The important detail is whether the info provided is actually useful > > Yes. Committers get their commit bit by submitting diffs. > > > Seems like this was useful, so even minutest contributions help along. > > Someone who

Re: Corrections to the Release Song Lyrics page

2016-06-19 Thread lists
Sun, 19 Jun 2016 17:35:39 -0700 Philip Guenther > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 4:38 PM, wrote: > >> The important detail is whether the info provided is actually useful > > Yes. Committers get their commit bit by submitting diffs. > > > Seems like this was

Re: Corrections to the Release Song Lyrics page

2016-06-19 Thread lists
> >> The important detail is whether the info provided is actually useful > > > > Seems like this was useful, so even minutest contributions help along. > > Was that some sort of attempt at an apology for shooting your mouth off Yes, are you happy or you want me to try again this time in 13+

Randomish Reboots on Current

2016-06-19 Thread Daniel Wilkins
Has anyone else been hvaing random reboots on current? The system freezes up for maybe 30 seconds or so, then reboots. I have a hunch that it's something with my wifi card because occasionally during a reboot it'll error saying something about MIC errors and then reboot, or just freeze+reboot

Re: Corrections to the Release Song Lyrics page

2016-06-19 Thread Philip Guenther
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 4:38 PM, wrote: >> The important detail is whether the info provided is actually useful Yes. Committers get their commit bit by submitting diffs. > Seems like this was useful, so even minutest contributions help along. Someone who can't admit they

Re: Corrections to the Release Song Lyrics page

2016-06-19 Thread Peter Rippe
>>That would be a complete waste of their time, like you wasted ropers. > >You're not part of the OpenBSD developers, you're coming from a free >mail provider (gmail). You show nothing to validate your suggestion. >You should probably stop making corrections in people's names unless >you get

Re: Corrections to the Release Song Lyrics page

2016-06-19 Thread lists
> The important detail is whether the info provided is actually useful Seems like this was useful, so even minutest contributions help along.

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread lists
Sun, 19 Jun 2016 08:09:24 -0700 Chris Cappuccio > I'd just use a regular install on a a modern SSD. flashrd and other > techniques are great for _cheap_ and potentially buggy or otherwise > less reliable flash, such as USB sticks or SD cards. A gateway and a local server here

Re: Corrections to the Release Song Lyrics page

2016-06-19 Thread Sebastian Benoit
Tae Wong(seotaewon...@gmail.com) on 2016.06.19 07:58:33 +0900: > The source page I provided here is http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html > > In this page, I've found the following errors. > ??? In the "I'm still here" song credits, Jonathan Lewis is displayed as > Jonathan D. Lewis (middle

Re: [pf] NAT64 rule for *outgoing* packets

2016-06-19 Thread Sebastian Benoit
Dan L??dtke(m...@danrl.com) on 2016.06.07 19:14:24 +0200: > Follow-up: > > This rule matches outgoing packets to nat64 well-known prefix 64:ff9b::/96: > pass out quick on $if_wan inet6 from $if_wan:network to 64:ff9b::/96 af-to > inet from ($if_wan) af-to does not work on pass out rules. Why do

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread lists
Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:13:35 -0500 Chris Bennett > > To ensure long life, it is more important to keep electronics cool. > > An excellent way to keep your firewall box "cool" is to put some nice > OpenBSD stickers on the outside. Be sure to wear an OpenBSD

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread Chris Bennett
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 09:02:45PM +0300, li...@wrant.com wrote: > The only hot spot > > To ensure long life, it is more important to keep electronics cool. > An excellent way to keep your firewall box "cool" is to put some nice OpenBSD stickers on the outside. Be sure to wear an OpenBSD

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread lists
Sun, 19 Jun 2016 13:27:09 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn > I am not unable to upgrade. I choose not to at this time. It is your choice, other users of the operating system want to be able. > > Synopsis: there is no need to treat SSD any special way user level. > > To ensure long

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
U told about a firewall, that one is no way a write intensive task, so in this use case it would go well any SSD. If u really think about a write intensive use case, I would go for Samsung 850EVO devices: the 500gb model of the previous 840pro has been tested to write more than 1.9pb before dying

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
On 16-06-19 21:02:45, li...@wrant.com wrote: > Sun, 19 Jun 2016 12:32:38 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:34 AM, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > > > > > "I am afraid to upgrade".. is a total deal breaker, just buy a good SSD.

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread lists
Sun, 19 Jun 2016 12:32:38 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:34 AM, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > > > "I am afraid to upgrade".. is a total deal breaker, just buy a good SSD. > > What deal? Of maintaining the system via regular

Re: Corrections to the Release Song Lyrics page

2016-06-19 Thread lists
Sun, 19 Jun 2016 17:00:36 + Ivan Markin > li...@wrant.com: > > You're not part of the OpenBSD developers, you're coming from a free > > mail provider (gmail). You show nothing to validate your suggestion. > > You should probably stop making corrections in people's names

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:34 AM, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > "I am afraid to upgrade".. is a total deal breaker, just buy a good SSD. What deal? At the time of install those weren't issues. If I upgrade they become issues. Very minor issues, but it will take user intervention

Re: Corrections to the Release Song Lyrics page

2016-06-19 Thread Ivan Markin
li...@wrant.com: > You're not part of the OpenBSD developers, you're coming from a free > mail provider (gmail). You show nothing to validate your suggestion. > You should probably stop making corrections in people's names unless > you get appointed to do so by the project. Until then, this is

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread lists
"I am afraid to upgrade".. is a total deal breaker, just buy a good SSD. Install as if installing on a HDD, it does not make a difference, except that you pay more. When you fill the SSD it will perform just as a HDD.

Re: Corrections to the Release Song Lyrics page

2016-06-19 Thread lists
Sun, 19 Jun 2016 07:58:33 +0900 Tae Wong > The source page I provided here is http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html > > In this page, I've found the following errors. > • In the "I'm still here" song credits, Jonathan Lewis is displayed as > Jonathan D. Lewis (middle

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
On 16-06-19 11:56:57, Sj??holm Per-Olov wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone know if there exist any list of recommendations about how to make > an SSD disk to live as long as possible when using it for firewall purpose on > OpenBSD? It seems that OpenBSD lack some features related to SSDs like TRIM. >

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Sj??holm Per-Olov [p...@incedo.org] wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone know if there exist any list of recommendations about how to make > an SSD disk to live as long as possible when using it for firewall purpose on > OpenBSD? It seems that OpenBSD lack some features related to SSDs like TRIM. > SSDs

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Paul Suh [pl...@goodeast.com] wrote: > > Sj??holm, > > Take a look at: > > https://github.com/yellowman/flashrd > https://github.com/markhellewell/resflash > > Hope this helps. > I'd just use a regular install on a a modern SSD. flashrd and other techniques are great for _cheap_ and

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread Paul Suh
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 5:56 AM, Sjöholm Per-Olov wrote: > > Hi > > Does anyone know if there exist any list of recommendations about how to make > an SSD disk to live as long as possible when using it for firewall purpose on > OpenBSD? It seems that OpenBSD lack some features

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:56:57AM +0200, Sjöholm Per-Olov wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone know if there exist any list of recommendations about how to make > an SSD disk to live as long as possible when using it for firewall purpose on > OpenBSD? It seems that OpenBSD lack some features related to

Re: Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread Marcus MERIGHI
p...@incedo.org (Sj??holm Per-Olov), 2016.06.19 (Sun) 11:56 (CEST): > Does anyone know if there exist any list of recommendations about how > to make an SSD disk to live as long as possible when using it for > firewall purpose on OpenBSD? http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc=144738462109908 Bye,

Long life on SSD in a firewall environment

2016-06-19 Thread Sjöholm Per-Olov
Hi Does anyone know if there exist any list of recommendations about how to make an SSD disk to live as long as possible when using it for firewall purpose on OpenBSD? It seems that OpenBSD lack some features related to SSDs like TRIM. SSDs are getting more popular, but I cannot find much info

Re: Synaptics/Chrome two-finger scrolling behaviour

2016-06-19 Thread Henrik Friedrichsen
On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 02:17:00PM +0200, Henrik Friedrichsen wrote: > Hey, > > I'm not sure, but something seems to have changed two-finger-scrolling > on Synaptics touchpads in the latest snapshots. > > My snapshot is from June 2nd. The following is what happens: > > In Chromium, if I click

Re: how to setup multiboot with a shared /home?

2016-06-19 Thread Bodie
On 19.06.2016 05:59, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: I'm trying to set up a disk so that it can multiboot either of two distinct amd64 OpenBSD installations (I'll call them A and B). Reading the Fine FAQ suggests that a relatively straightforward way to do this is to put the two OpenBSD