Re: Userland PCI drivers possible in OpenBSD?

2020-01-10 Thread Frank Beuth
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 07:23:26PM -0500, gwes wrote: On 1/9/20 10:58 PM, Joseph Mayer wrote: Maybe this topic is better suited for tech@, you tell: Is there some way I can implement PCI drivers in userland in OpenBSD? Is there any reason not to write a conventional device driver and build an

Re: What is you motivational to use OpenBSD

2020-01-10 Thread Raymond, David
Why do I like openbsd? I used linux for several decades and it has become harder and harder to keep up with gratuitous changes and to keep my 20+ machines running and updated. The last straw was usb mounting being broken in the linux kernel for 6 months. Really! The whole linux enterprise

Re: Userland PCI drivers possible in OpenBSD?

2020-01-10 Thread William Ahern
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 03:58:16AM +, Joseph Mayer wrote: > Maybe this topic is better suited for tech@, you tell: > > Is there some way I can implement PCI drivers in userland in OpenBSD? In light of the other responses I think the best you could expect is PCI passthrough to a virtual

Re: Userland PCI drivers possible in OpenBSD?

2020-01-10 Thread gwes
On 1/9/20 10:58 PM, Joseph Mayer wrote: Maybe this topic is better suited for tech@, you tell: Is there some way I can implement PCI drivers in userland in OpenBSD? Is there any reason not to write a conventional device driver and build an OS including that driver? While the kernel

Re: What is you motivational to use OpenBSD

2020-01-10 Thread Christopher Turkel
On Friday, January 10, 2020, Raul Miller wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 10:41 AM Mohamed salah > wrote: > > I wanna put something in discussion, what's your motivational to use > > OPENBSD what not other bsd's what not gnu/Linux, if something doesn't > work > > fine on openbsd and you love

Re: Userland PCI drivers possible in OpenBSD?

2020-01-10 Thread Tom Smyth
Johannes, Joseph asked a fair question and he got a direct answer and a reason for it from two developers. It may not be the answer that he wanted but the reason for not implementing what very experienced developers and computer scientists determined that usermode PCI drivers like that would

Re: Userland PCI drivers possible in OpenBSD?

2020-01-10 Thread Theo de Raadt
Raw physical memory is not exported at all, not even to root. That is not going to change. Johannes Krottmayer wrote: > On 10.01.20 at 17:26, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > We won't help you because we oppose the lack of a security barrier > > in such designs. > > Detailed explanation (for us

Re: Userland PCI drivers possible in OpenBSD?

2020-01-10 Thread Johannes Krottmayer
On 10.01.20 at 17:26, Theo de Raadt wrote: > We won't help you because we oppose the lack of a security barrier > in such designs. Detailed explanation (for us stupid users), please. The same non-response answer. Same with my (simple) User-Space GPIO driver. Please don't get wrong, but I had

Re: What is you motivational to use OpenBSD

2020-01-10 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 10:41 AM Mohamed salah wrote: > I wanna put something in discussion, what's your motivational to use > OPENBSD what not other bsd's what not gnu/Linux, if something doesn't work > fine on openbsd and you love this os so much what will do? I wanted a machine with tcp and

Re: Display flickers after upgrade to 6.6

2020-01-10 Thread Dumitru Moldovan
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:18:51AM -0700, Stanislav wrote: I have got weak flickering of XFCE too (after upgrade to 6.6). Mentioned setting the method for vblank does not fix it. Turning on/off compositor does not help too. Any ideas? Have you tried customizing xorg.conf? This

Re: Display flickers after upgrade to 6.6

2020-01-10 Thread Stanislav
I have got weak flickering of XFCE too (after upgrade to 6.6). Mentioned setting the method for vblank does not fix it. Turning on/off compositor does not help too. Any ideas? - Best Regards, Stanislav Gilmulin -- Sent from:

Re: Android (MTP) with OpenBSD: Tiny success story

2020-01-10 Thread Stanislav
Let me tell misc@ about this case with Samsung GN7000 (2011). simple-mtpfs does not work with this phone. MTP connection is established but transferring is empty. umass works fine (OpenBSD 6.4, 6.5, 6.6). "Settings" -> "USB Computer Connection". When this mode is activated on the connected

Re: What is you motivational to use OpenBSD

2020-01-10 Thread Stanislav
I consider my way as quite typical path to become OpenBSD-newbie. 1.5 years ago I decided to remove Windows 10 from my home notebook. Why not Linux? I have own experience in using Linux distros for work/home purposes on many machines. Actually Im not advanced but I pretend to have the confident

Re: Userland PCI drivers possible in OpenBSD?

2020-01-10 Thread Theo de Raadt
We won't help you because we oppose the lack of a security barrier in such designs. Joseph Mayer wrote: > Maybe this topic is better suited for tech@, you tell: > > Is there some way I can implement PCI drivers in userland in OpenBSD? > > On a quick Internet search, see some discussion for

Re: Fan Art submission

2020-01-10 Thread Peter J. Philipp
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 02:04:23PM +0100, Peter J. Philipp wrote: > This morning I was doodling with my Wacom tablet on my Workstation running > OpenBSD-current (a few days older). Gimp 2.10 crashed, and I thought I lost > the image forever but then I was able to restore it next run. While

Fw: Re: openiked.org down?

2020-01-10 Thread lu hu
Hello? https://www.openiked.org/ is still down. Thanks. > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 at 8:27 PM > From: "lu hu" > To: direct...@openbsdfoundation.org > Subject: Fw: Re: openiked.org down? > > Hello, > > can you please help to bring back > > https://www.openiked.org/ > > to life? someone

Re: Awaiting a diff

2020-01-10 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Consus wrote on Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:52:44PM +0300: > On 20:06 Thu 09 Jan, Marc Espie wrote: >> It's been that way for ages. But no-one volunteered >> to work on this. > Anyone even knows about this? Aside from OpenBSD developers (who > have their plates full already) how an average

Re: tap(4) performance tuning on (amd64)

2020-01-10 Thread Tom Smyth
Sorry I realised I forgot to mention the version openvpn-2.4.7p1 and OpenBSD6.6 Stable (amd64) running on a 2 core (1socket) Xeon e5v2 KVM Guest with Q35 Vm type with intel ix(4) nics I will test against Current also once I have gotten a baseline on the release+ Patches version Thanks, Tom Smyth

Fan Art submission

2020-01-10 Thread Peter J. Philipp
This morning I was doodling with my Wacom tablet on my Workstation running OpenBSD-current (a few days older). Gimp 2.10 crashed, and I thought I lost the image forever but then I was able to restore it next run. While showing it off I merged it (with bucketfill) with a van gogh (I don't know if

tap(4) performance tuning on (amd64)

2020-01-10 Thread Tom Smyth
Hi lads, I have been doing some testing with tap(4) and openvpn (standard ssl ) I have been using openvpn with tap and I have been trying with null encryption. null authentication, the performance of the tap interface seems to be about 100-150Mb/s on a system which can give 3Gb/s-5Gb/s on

Re: 6.6-current #590 error

2020-01-10 Thread rgc
On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 07:35:17PM +0900, rgc wrote: > misc@ > > just a heads-up #590 has some issues. > > $ uname -a > OpenBSD pcfj10.my.domain 6.6 GENERIC.MP#590 amd64 > > $ pkg_info -mz > Cwd.c: loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched (got handshake key > 0xb70, needed

Re: Awaiting a diff [was: Re: File systems...]

2020-01-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 11:28:07AM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:52:44PM +0300, Consus wrote: > > On 20:06 Thu 09 Jan, Marc Espie wrote: > > > It's been that way for ages. But no-one volunteered > > > to work on this. > > > > Anyone even knows about this? Aside from

Re: sysupgrade woes on beaglebone black

2020-01-10 Thread Jan Stary
On Jan 10 11:01:03, flor...@openbsd.org wrote: > > It seems I am missing out on > > http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/distrib/miniroot/install.sub.diff?r1=1.1141=1.1142=h > > - I can't figure out how to pass the -x option that sets $UU > > (and thus makes the timer reset before each set

Re: Awaiting a diff [was: Re: File systems...]

2020-01-10 Thread Consus
On 11:28 Fri 10 Jan, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:52:44PM +0300, Consus wrote: > > On 20:06 Thu 09 Jan, Marc Espie wrote: > > > It's been that way for ages. But no-one volunteered > > > to work on this. > > > > Anyone even knows about this? Aside from OpenBSD developers

Re: Awaiting a diff [was: Re: File systems...]

2020-01-10 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:52:44PM +0300, Consus wrote: > On 20:06 Thu 09 Jan, Marc Espie wrote: > > It's been that way for ages. But no-one volunteered > > to work on this. > > Anyone even knows about this? Aside from OpenBSD developers (who have > their plates full already) how an average

Re: Awaiting a diff [was: Re: File systems...]

2020-01-10 Thread Consus
On 11:08 Fri 10 Jan, Janne Johansson wrote: > By using the parts that OpenBSD is made up of, and not automatically moving > to other OSes as soon as you leave the comfort zone. I'm not sure, but it seems like from a user perspective there is nothing wrong with amd(8). Only that it keeps using

Re: Awaiting a diff [was: Re: File systems...]

2020-01-10 Thread Janne Johansson
Den fre 10 jan. 2020 kl 10:55 skrev Consus : > On 20:06 Thu 09 Jan, Marc Espie wrote: > > It's been that way for ages. But no-one volunteered > > to work on this. > > Anyone even knows about this? Aside from OpenBSD developers (who have > their plates full already) how an average person can find

Re: sysupgrade woes on beaglebone black

2020-01-10 Thread chohag
Jan Stary writes: > - I can't figure out how to pass the -x option that sets $UU > (and thus makes the timer reset before each set is installed). You don't. http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/distrib/miniroot/dot.profile.diff?r1=1.42=1.43 Matthew

Re: sysupgrade woes on beaglebone black

2020-01-10 Thread Florian Obser
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:06:41AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > It seems it's the SD card that is slow (the machine > is a BeagleBone Black) - will try with a faster one. > > It seems I am missing out on >

Re: Awaiting a diff [was: Re: File systems...]

2020-01-10 Thread Consus
On 20:06 Thu 09 Jan, Marc Espie wrote: > It's been that way for ages. But no-one volunteered > to work on this. Anyone even knows about this? Aside from OpenBSD developers (who have their plates full already) how an average person can find out that there is rusty piece of code that should be

Re: sysupgrade woes on beaglebone black

2020-01-10 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:06:41AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > On Jan 09 11:44:25, h...@stare.cz wrote: > > Installing bsd 100% |**| 6248 KB00:05 ETA > > Installing bsd.rd 100% |**| 11229 KB00:10 ETA > > Installing base66.tgz 100%

Re: Can't select files to upload in a browsers

2020-01-10 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 09 Jan 2020, jungle Boogie wrote: > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019, 2:58 AM dmitry.sensei wrote: > > > Firefox and Chromium browser, in the file selection window for upload, > > does not show the contents of directories other than the Downloads > > directory > > > > See here > >

Re: sysupgrade woes on beaglebone black

2020-01-10 Thread Jan Stary
On Jan 09 11:44:25, h...@stare.cz wrote: > Installing bsd100% |**| 6248 KB00:05 ETA > Installing bsd.rd 100% |**| 11229 KB00:10 ETA > Installing base66.tgz 100% |**| 99116 MB - 07:12edT- > Installing