Re: GPL version 4

2008-07-18 Thread David Schwartz
Would you grant me the freedom to give away your commercial product for free or to incorporate it in my commercial product? Probably not. You'd instead grant me less freedom. The GPL protects me from this. Except it doesn't. With or without the GPL, if he still makes his commercial product,

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-17 Thread David Schwartz
Hannah Schroeter wrote: The original issue *was* about illegal relicensing (i.e. not just choosing which terms to follow, but removing the other terms altogether). You are confusing two completely different issues. One is about removing license notices, the other is about relicensing. One has

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-17 Thread David Schwartz
And if you choose the GPL the code you distribute will be under the GPL *only* forever [1], so what value would be in shipping terms that are void? Not true. You cannot chose the license that applies to other people's code. The code you distribute contains protectable elements from different

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-17 Thread David Schwartz
Theodore Tso writes: Now, you don't need a licence from the original author to use the derived work. The author of the derived work only needs a licence from the original author to create a derived work. Do you think Microsoft users have licences from authors of the works MS Windows etc. are

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-17 Thread David Schwartz
Kryzstof Halasa writes: David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Theodore Tso writes: hardly A apologize for the error in attribution. Of course you don't need a license to *use* the derived work. You never need a license to use a work. (In the United States. Some countries word

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-17 Thread David Schwartz
David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My point is that you *cannot* prevent a recipient of a derivative work from receiving any rights under either the GPL or the BSD to any protectable elements in that work. Of course you can. No you can't. What rights do you have to BSD