Re: Updated CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-29 Thread Robbert Haarman
Greg, Again, you raise some interesting issues. I wonder how likely the catastrophic failures you describe are, versus how likely it is that things fail in a way where ccd actually helps you. I was hoping someone else would comment on that, but that doesn't seem to have happened so far. So

Re: Updated CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-26 Thread Robbert Haarman
Dear JCR, Thank you for your informative message. Things like HowTo documents, sites like openbsdsupport.org and lists like openbsd-newbie@ are more often than not considered garbage. The reason is simply because you are robbing the reader of the fundamental and important details that the

Re: CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-25 Thread Robbert Haarman
http://inglorion.net/documents/tutorials/ccd/. labeling section is wrong. one MUST never use 'c' partition. one MUST always make an 'a' (for example) to skip first cylinder (at least). That's true for real disks, but it doesn't seem to be true for ccd devices. If it were true, ccdconfig

Re: CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-25 Thread Robbert Haarman
Of course, if somebody who actually knew the implementation details about ccd could weigh in, that would resolve the issue. they just did. http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/dev/ccd.c Ok, thanks for pointing that out. I apologize for my uninformed comments, especially to

Re: CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-25 Thread Robbert Haarman
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 02:26:08PM +0100, mickey wrote: On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 02:14:35PM +0100, Robbert Haarman wrote: by using 'c' partition one may endup trashing real disk's label. DO NOT USE 'c' PARTITION. Ok, I'll change the HOWTO and add a FAQ entry ASAP. Apologies for not believing

Re: CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-25 Thread Robbert Haarman
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 04:50:34PM +0100, mickey wrote: default 'c' type is unused. at least on default systems... On REAL disks, yes. On ccd disks, it seems to be different. Or maybe ccdconfig screws it up. 2. The OpenBSD slices of my disks start at sector 24659775. This is also where

Updated CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-25 Thread Robbert Haarman
Dear list, especially Greg and Mickey, I've updated the working copy of the CCD Mirroring HOWTO. In particular, I've split off the comparison to software RAID into a separate section and clarified that ccd does not do automatic recovery, and I've rewritten the section on labeling to state that

CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-24 Thread Robbert Haarman
For those who are interested, I've uploaded a tutorial on setting up mirroring using ccd(4) to http://inglorion.net/documents/tutorials/ccd/. -- Bob

Re: CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-24 Thread Robbert Haarman
http://inglorion.net/documents/tutorials/ccd/ I have a few questions/comments about the above and about ccd in OpenBSD in general. 1) You talk about RAID only works with whole disks? I'm curious which RAID implementation you're referring to... it seems like you might be talking about