Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-15 Thread Michał Markowski
2015-06-14 12:17 GMT+02:00 Артур Истомин art.is...@yandex.ru: By the way, I've never seen mention of the CPU's microcode updates in BIOS updates' changelogs (if they, changelogs, exist at all). Here you are (example from

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-14 Thread Артур Истомин
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:54:27PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2015-06-06, Артур Истомин art.is...@yandex.ru wrote: Your rant is cogent. But if so, why OpenBSD does not supply microcode updates from Intel/AMD? There are tons of security fixes. Isn't that the bios's area? (don't run

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-14 Thread Артур Истомин
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 06:01:53PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote: Артур Истомин wrote: Your rant is cogent. But if so, why OpenBSD does not supply microcode updates from Intel/AMD? There are tons of security fixes. Are they free? Send a patch. Don't be so lame before answering, open my next

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-14 Thread Mihai Popescu
I got the idea of this post, finally: one guy lacking basic knowledge pops in and talks in confusion about some non-free parts inside OpenBSD's kernel. Few threads more and another one is posting a suggestion of liberation. Cheap ads. I am convinced now the free idea got distorted reaching the

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-13 Thread Gareth Nelson
To the OP: http://www.libertybsd.net/ --- “Lanie, I’m going to print more printers. Lots more printers. One for everyone. That’s worth going to jail for. That’s worth anything.” - Printcrime by Cory Doctrow Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-06-06, Артур Истомин art.is...@yandex.ru wrote: Your rant is cogent. But if so, why OpenBSD does not supply microcode updates from Intel/AMD? There are tons of security fixes. Isn't that the bios's area? (don't run libreboot if you want those...)

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-13 Thread Артур Истомин
On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 06:48:44PM +0200, Elias Diem wrote: Hi On 2015-06-06, Артур Истомин wrote: Your rant is cogent. But if so, why OpenBSD does not supply microcode updates from Intel/AMD? There are tons of security fixes. I just wonder: Is there really such microcode available

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-13 Thread Ted Unangst
Артур Истомин wrote: Your rant is cogent. But if so, why OpenBSD does not supply microcode updates from Intel/AMD? There are tons of security fixes. Are they free? Send a patch.

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-10 Thread L.R. D.S.
If you want HW freedom, I think the viable way is this: https://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-15#products-top Please, don't buy this crapbook. We already have discussed it on this mailing list: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=142240878031170w=2

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-09 Thread Elias Diem
Hi On 2015-06-06, Артур Истомин wrote: Your rant is cogent. But if so, why OpenBSD does not supply microcode updates from Intel/AMD? There are tons of security fixes. I just wonder: Is there really such microcode available that is open source? -- Greetings Elias

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-09 Thread Martin Schröder
2015-06-09 18:48 GMT+02:00 Elias Diem li...@webconect.ch: I just wonder: Is there really such microcode available that is open source? No.

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-06 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 08:11:17PM -0400, countryg...@safe-mail.net wrote: Hello, It has come to my attention that OpenBSD does not included non-free drivers, dubbed blobs - which is excellent. However, you still include non-free firmware in the kernel and some packages. With spying

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-06 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 12:44:55AM -0300, Michel Behr wrote: If you want HW freedom, I think the viable way is this: https://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-15#products-top Nice try but I don't think countrygeek would be happy with this machine. What About the BIOS and firmware? Though the

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-06 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Stefan Sperling said: On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 12:44:55AM -0300, Michel Behr wrote: If you want HW freedom, I think the viable way is this: https://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-15#products-top Nice try but I don't think countrygeek would be happy with this machine. What About the

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-06 Thread Артур Истомин
Your rant is cogent. But if so, why OpenBSD does not supply microcode updates from Intel/AMD? There are tons of security fixes.

Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-05 Thread countrygeek
Hello, It has come to my attention that OpenBSD does not included non-free drivers, dubbed blobs - which is excellent. However, you still include non-free firmware in the kernel and some packages. With spying revelations, it is well-known that non-free firmware can contain backdoors. ( just

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-05 Thread Theo de Raadt
Hello, Hello Mr. Whoever you are, It has come to my attention that OpenBSD does not included non-free drivers, dubbed blobs - which is excellent. However, you still include non-free firmware in the kernel and some packages. That is false. The kernel includes a few minor firmwares which are

Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed

2015-06-05 Thread Michel Behr
Countryguy, I guess my challenge would be this: If you consire all this easy and important, why don't you start right away implementing on those ideas and share the links with the results with everyone? (This is what I say to myself every time I think about something on the lines of your message.