Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-29 Thread someone
13-year-old SSL/TLS Weakness Exposing Sensitive Data in Plain Text http://thehackernews.com/2015/03/rc4-ssl-tls-security.html On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:08 PM, someone thisistheone8...@gmail.com wrote: How much do we bet in $$$ that March 19. will be an RC4 related security bug? On Sat, Mar

DOSWas: Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-17 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:33:20 + (UTC) Stuart Henderson wrote: I just tried a handful of online banking sites in the qualys checker. Only *one* of the ones I tried (nice job triodos) supports PFS at all. Cool, we opened an account with triodos last week too. I always knew SSL allows DOS

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-17 Thread someone
How much do we bet in $$$ that March 19. will be an RC4 related security bug? On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: (ridiculous formatting adjusted) On 2015-03-06, someone thisistheone8...@gmail.com wrote: SUGGEST THE WORLD TO ONLY USE PERFECT FORWARD

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
(ridiculous formatting adjusted) On 2015-03-06, someone thisistheone8...@gmail.com wrote: SUGGEST THE WORLD TO ONLY USE PERFECT FORWARD SECRECY AND REMOVE ALL THE WEAK CIPHERS IN LIBRESSL AND OPENSSL! There is still not widespread support for PFS. Some of this is probably due to use of old

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-06 Thread someone
So I argumented against ex.: RC4/*DES with the https://jve.linuxwall.info/blog/index.php?post/TLS_Survey but nothing in reply came in as con this looks like a one-sided topic... I still don't understand why couldn't we put the KNOWN weak ciphers in the fucking trash.. do you really think

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-06 Thread someone
It's not about one person disabling weak ciphers, it's about more.. REMOVE the lame weak ciphers in LibreSSL/OpenSSL NOW! Don't let the world use them anymore! Don't be that NSA sponsored weak pussy! 99.9% of new or updated servers wont use RC4, 3DES, MD5, etc. S U G G E S T T H E W O R L D

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-06 Thread ludovic coues
Your arguments is that one website out of four wouldn't be able to talk with a client only supporting PFS. It have been said that a lot of these bad apple are bank server, those who are not going to upgrade anytime soon. If you need PFS only, go ahead. I'm pretty sure it's only a matter of

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-06 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 04:43:00PM +0100, someone wrote: So I argumented against ex.: RC4/*DES with the https://jve.linuxwall.info/blog/index.php?post/TLS_Survey but nothing in reply came in as con this looks like a one-sided topic... I still don't understand why couldn't we put the

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-06 Thread jungle Boogie
On 6 March 2015 at 07:43, someone thisistheone8...@gmail.com wrote: I still don't understand why couldn't we put the KNOWN weak ciphers in the fucking trash.. do you really think servers that are installed nowadays are still using RC4? WHAT A BRIGHT FUTURE. Cryptographers are shouting LOUDly

Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-04 Thread someone
Hello, --- Does LibreSSL supports RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack Apple's SecureTransport and OpenSSL -- have a bug in them. This bug causes them to accept RSA export-grade keys *even when the client didn't

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-04 Thread someone
I think that's a win. What about PFS-only + HIGH ciphers? On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Ted Unangst t...@tedunangst.com wrote: someone wrote: Does LibreSSL supports RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack Export ciphers were deleted from LibreSSL last summer.

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-04 Thread Miod Vallat
I think that's a win. What about PFS-only + HIGH ciphers? What about interoperability? It is too early to restrict LibreSSL to PFS ciphersuites, alas. Miod

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-04 Thread someone
Sometimes you have to break things to make it better On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Miod Vallat m...@online.fr wrote: I think that's a win. What about PFS-only + HIGH ciphers? What about interoperability? It is too early to restrict LibreSSL to PFS ciphersuites, alas. Miod

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-04 Thread someone
interoperable - you mean there are still softwares that really count and still cannot use/support HIGH ciphers? wow. What a world we live in.. :\ On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Miod Vallat m...@online.fr wrote: Sometimes you have to break things to make it better Yes, and getting people to

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-04 Thread Carlin Bingham
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015, at 07:37 AM, someone wrote: interoperable - you mean there are still softwares that really count and still cannot use/support HIGH ciphers? wow. What a world we live in.. :\ On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Miod Vallat m...@online.fr wrote: Sometimes you have to break

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-04 Thread Miod Vallat
Sometimes you have to break things to make it better Yes, and getting people to stop using LibreSSL because it suddenly is not interoperable with anything would surely help a lot. Instead, we are trying to get developers to try and use LibreSSL provided libtsl, which defaults to sane, strong

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-04 Thread Ted Unangst
someone wrote: Does LibreSSL supports RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack Export ciphers were deleted from LibreSSL last summer.

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-04 Thread someone
They are just using what the softwares provide. https://jve.linuxwall.info/blog/index.php?post/TLS_Survey This guy scanned Alexa's list of top 1,000,000 websites. At janvier 11 2014. 45% of them had TLS support. 1.23% of websites only accept 3DES, and 1.56% of websites only accept RC4. PFS

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-04 Thread Miod Vallat
interoperable - you mean there are still softwares that really count and still cannot use/support HIGH ciphers? wow. What a world we live in.. :\ There are still idiots top-posting, why wouldn't there be idiots misconfiguring TLS servers or not giving a damn? Miod

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015, at 07:37 AM, someone wrote: interoperable - you mean there are still softwares that really count and still cannot use/support HIGH ciphers? wow. What a world we live in.. :\ On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Miod Vallat m...@online.fr wrote: Sometimes you have to break

Re: Does LibreSSL support RSA export-grade keys? - FREAK Attack

2015-03-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
interoperable - you mean there are still softwares that really count and still cannot use/support HIGH ciphers? wow. What a world we live in.. :\ Look, stop being a child. There are plenty of discussions about this topic in many places.