Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-06 Thread Bob Beck
Actually, there are a couple of organisations that are willing to act as a proxy for the payments to organisations that are unable to deal with the legalities imposed by the US IRS - it is not just foreigners that have issues some projects inside the US just don't have the ability to deal

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-06 Thread Bob Beck
I have done GSoC as a mentor before though I have not been the admin for a project Have you dealt with the google contract then?

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-06 Thread Brett Lymn
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:30:25AM -0700, Bob Beck wrote: I know of no such mailing list, and certainly Google didn't put me on to it when I had problems with their contract. *sigh* a search and a half a dozen click and I was here:

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-05 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 07:04:06AM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: But again. OpenBSD tried at least two times before to apply, but was not accepted by Google That is false. We were approached by Google people to

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-05 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 07:04:06AM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: But again. OpenBSD tried at least two times before to apply, but was

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-05 Thread Bob Beck
1) The OpenBSD Foundation is NOT OpenBSD. 2) That application never elicited a reply from Google, so no contract to read or sign was presented or known of. 3) At some later point the required contract was obtained and, as Theo has said, nobody in the OpenBSD project or at the OpenBSD

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-05 Thread Илья Шипицин
5 MARTA 2012 G. 21:55 POLXZOWATELX Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.comNAPISAL: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 07:04:06AM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Theo de Raadt

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-05 Thread Bob Beck
they didn't say that Theo refused to sign any paper. Just wonder, what kind of responsibilty that paper was about ? Accepting student's code to OpenBSD code base or something ? No, it's actually about personal liability for the mentor (i.e. me) for taxes and other such nonsense. Google SOC

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-05 Thread Илья Шипицин
6 MARTA 2012 G. 0:15 POLXZOWATELX Bob Beck b...@openbsd.org NAPISAL: they didn't say that Theo refused to sign any paper. Just wonder, what kind of responsibilty that paper was about ? Accepting student's code to OpenBSD code base or something ? No, it's actually about personal

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-05 Thread Bob Beck
at first, I'd notice, 3) != 4), right ? May not be the same, however they do want mentorship from somwhere associated to the projects. at second, taxes are rather government thing, not googlish ? why should I sign something with Google about taxes ? It doesn't make any sense. Because

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-05 Thread Morten Christensen
Am I the only one wanting the tone to be polite and friendly among friends? I think the only reason why Tomas Bodzar didn't snap the head of Theo or at least tried to is because every booting OpenBSD on earth start by says dera...@i386.openbsd.org - no small accomplishment - hats off! I

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-05 Thread Travis Mikalson
Morten Christensen wrote: Am I the only one wanting the tone to be polite and friendly among friends? I think the only reason why Tomas Bodzar didn't snap the head of Theo or at least tried to is because every booting OpenBSD on earth start by says dera...@i386.openbsd.org - no small

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-05 Thread Brett Lymn
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 09:08:24AM -0700, Bob Beck wrote: I'm always willing to try again if this message is read by someone at Google who can untangle the bureaucracy... Actually, there are a couple of organisations that are willing to act as a proxy for the payments to organisations that

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-05 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Morten Christensen morten_b_christen...@me.com wrote: Am I the only one wanting the tone to be polite and friendly among friends? I think the only reason why Tomas Bodzar didn't snap the head of Theo or at least tried to is because every booting OpenBSD on earth

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
But again. OpenBSD tried at least two times before to apply, but was not accepted by Google That is false. We were approached by Google people to participate, but we can find noone in our project who will accept signing their contract. We told them that was a problem. They chose not to find

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-04 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: But again. OpenBSD tried at least two times before to apply, but was not accepted by Google That is false. We were approached by Google people to participate, but we can find noone in our project who will accept

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: But again. OpenBSD tried at least two times before to apply, but was not accepted by Google That is false. We were approached by Google people to participate, but we can find noone in our project who will accept

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-04 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:06 AM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: But again. OpenBSD tried at least two times before to apply, but was not accepted by Google That is false. We were approached by Google

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-03-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:06 AM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: But again. OpenBSD tried at least two times before to apply, but was not accepted by Google That is false. We were approached by Google

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-02-29 Thread Loganaden Velvindron
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Loganaden Velvindron logana...@gmail.com wrote: I came across this:

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-02-29 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 02:33:33PM +0400, Loganaden Velvindron wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Loganaden Velvindron logana...@gmail.com wrote: I came across this:

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-02-29 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Loganaden Velvindron logana...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Loganaden Velvindron logana...@gmail.com wrote: I came across this:

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-02-29 Thread Jiri B
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 01:21:21PM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: I did not say that ;-) I'm not a developer of OpenBSD, just user so I can provide only my view on that. Another question is market share because there's not much hype around OpenBSD so it doesn't have attention like Linux or

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-02-29 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Jiri B ji...@devio.us wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 01:21:21PM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: I did not say that ;-) I'm not a developer of OpenBSD, just user so I can provide only my view on that. Another question is market share because there's not much hype

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-02-29 Thread Vitali
I was still looking for time to ask them about something similar, because they are listed as supporter when in fact their page is clearly Linux-only. Afraid this is only due to a wish to get higher in the search result list. I've met such lame clients a lot before. jirib -- ### Coonardoo

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-02-29 Thread Henning Brauer
* Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com [2012-02-29 13:55]: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Jiri B ji...@devio.us wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 01:21:21PM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: I did not say that ;-) I'm not a developer of OpenBSD, just user so I can provide only my view on that.

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-02-29 Thread Brett Lymn
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 08:35:03AM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: Examples of outputs related to BSD are eg. here: http://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/posix_spawn_syscall_added http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2011/09/15/8368.html but when testing those you can see that they are mostly not

Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-02-28 Thread Loganaden Velvindron
I came across this: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/02/mentoring-organization-applications-now.html?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+GoogleOpenSourceBlog+%28Google+Open+Source+Blog%29 The deadline is the 29th. I'd be interested in accelerating the port of

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-02-28 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Loganaden Velvindron logana...@gmail.com wrote: I came across this:

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-02-28 Thread Jiri B
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 08:35:03AM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: The question is if there's real potential in that for some really new stuff. Personally I think that developers which hacks in their free time work on needed features anyway even without GSoC and probably don't have free summer

Re: Google SoC 2012 is accepting open source organisations

2012-02-28 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Jiri B ji...@devio.us wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 08:35:03AM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: The question is if there's real potential in that for some really new stuff. Personally I think that developers which hacks in their free time work on needed features