PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread Matthew Young
Hello, Iam looking for a way to have an allowed list of SSL enabled sites that a end user can browse, but this entirely done on a server level with _zero_ configuration on the pc. In a dream world, squid would be able to tranparently proxy https and thus I would create an allowed list of ssl

Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread Bob Beck
apache or other reverse proxy. 2009/10/29 Matthew Young myoung24...@gmail.com: Hello, Iam looking for a way to have an allowed list of SSL enabled sites that a end user can browse, but this entirely done on a server level with _zero_ configuration on the pc. In a dream world, squid would

Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread Matthew Young
Hello, If I use a reverse proxy I would have to know the SSL key of the remote SSL site. (gmail.com) so that the reverse proxy server would decrypt and encrypt. Iam not mistaken. -- Matt On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Bob Beck b...@ualberta.ca wrote: apache or other reverse proxy.

Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread James Records
may be able to do something with relayd, though i'm not sure. J On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Matthew Young myoung24...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, If I use a reverse proxy I would have to know the SSL key of the remote SSL site. (gmail.com) so that the reverse proxy server would decrypt

Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread Bob Beck
Yep. That's why https encrypts the url transmission. The point is you aren't *supposed* to be able to do that securely. Your reverse proxy which does this will look like the standard hotel room sillyness. 2009/10/29 Matthew Young myoung24...@gmail.com: Hello, If I use a reverse proxy I would

Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 02:57:14PM -0500, Matthew Young wrote: Hello, If I use a reverse proxy I would have to know the SSL key of the remote SSL site. (gmail.com) so that the reverse proxy server would decrypt and encrypt. Iam not mistaken. Any decent proxy server accepts the CONNECT

Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread Brad Tilley
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Matthew Young myoung24...@gmail.com wrote: Iam looking for a way to have an allowed list of SSL enabled sites that a end user can browse... Off-topic, but if the users are knowledgeable with OpenSSH, they can go around any obstacle you place in front of them

Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread Matthew Young
THis is great, however out LAN users are all technical. they would know and the next thing I have is people browsing the internet through IPs. It was good, but not applicable here. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Chris Kuethe chris.kue...@gmail.com wrote: So run your own dns and only resolve

Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread Bob Beck
Not unless you know the ip addreses of everything you're hitting. No amount of magic will make relayd intercept an https session and get the url out without sending a bogus certificate to the user. If you have a limited set of places to go, sure, it'll work, but so will just a plain old pf rule

Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread Marcello Cruz
: Matthew Young myoung24...@gmail.com To: Bob Beck b...@ualberta.ca; misc@openbsd.org Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution? Hello, If I use a reverse proxy I would have to know

Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread Bob Beck
browsing ssl by IP addresses will also result in certificate conflicts - because the ssl cert is for the name not the IP address. So if they were willing to do that, they're willing to have your stupid reverse proxy mitm all your certificates since they'll also fail. Perhaps between my extermely

Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread Matthew Young
Marcello, Thank you.. this is good except that I need to configure all my browsers for downloading the pac file, and some Adware,/antivirus will not auto discover this.. my users are linux as well as windows sadly. So while this is a lot more practical then manually configuring proxies in the

Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread xSAPPYx
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Joachim Schipper joac...@joachimschipper.nl wrote: I believe that work is currently underway to make it possible for multiple SSL-enabled hostnames to share a single IP address, but it will probably be quite a few years before this is remotely common. There is

Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution?

2009-10-29 Thread Marcello Cruz
myoung24...@gmail.com To: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:02 PM Subject: Re: PF challenge dealing with HTTPS URL restriction policies.. would it help, other possible solution? Marcello, Thank you.. this is good except that I need to configure all my browsers for downloading