Re: Perpetually Current

2008-11-02 Thread Doug Milam
I'm also fairly new to OpenBSD. As I understand from this thread, having installed -current (4.4) from a snapshot CD, the easiest way to keep -current is to burn a subsequent snapshot to a CD and follow the upgrade process from there?

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-11-02 Thread Chess Griffin
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Doug Milam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm also fairly new to OpenBSD. As I understand from this thread, having installed -current (4.4) from a snapshot CD, the easiest way to keep -current is to burn a subsequent snapshot to a CD and follow the upgrade process from

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-11-02 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 01:39:04PM -0800, Doug Milam wrote: I'm also fairly new to OpenBSD. As I understand from this thread, having installed -current (4.4) from a snapshot CD, the easiest way to keep -current is to burn a subsequent snapshot to a CD and follow the upgrade process from there?

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-11-02 Thread Doug Milam
Thanks; that's straightforward and refreshingly more direct than I thought. A hallmark of OpenBSD! * * http://milam.homeunix.net --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Tobias Ulmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tobias Ulmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Perpetually Current To: Doug Milam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Dec 27, 2007 11:17 AM, new_guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it be feasible to get a snapshot today and follow -current for many years w/o having to

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:42:01PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: I have quite the same problem. my OBSD routers are usually old PII boxes and doing this kind of upgrade on them is not trivial. other, I have some remote routers I cant do this, so They run FBSD. I'd rather use OBSD on my routers,

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Henning Brauer
* Nenhum_de_Nos [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-02 17:49]: On Dec 27, 2007 11:17 AM, new_guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it be feasible to get a

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:42:01PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: On Dec 27, 2007 11:17 AM, new_guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it be feasible to get

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 12:40:40PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: There has to be a way without CD. Can't you put the 4.2 rd kernel on the root filesystem and boot that then run the installer, pulling the install sets via ftp? I suppose for remote units you need some sort of remote shell

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Matheus, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote on Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:42:01PM -0300: my OBSD routers are usually old PII boxes and doing this kind of upgrade on them is not trivial. Saying this kind of upgrade, you refer to the official upgrade process, i presume? The official upgrade process is

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Jan 2, 2008 4:57 PM, Ingo Schwarze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matheus, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote on Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:42:01PM -0300: my OBSD routers are usually old PII boxes and doing this kind of upgrade on them is not trivial. Saying this kind of upgrade, you refer to the official

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-30 Thread Jason George
I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it be feasible to get a snapshot today and follow -current for many years w/o having to reinstall? Basically, this approach would skip -stable and

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-28 Thread Amarendra Godbole
On Dec 28, 2007 4:07 AM, Ingo Schwarze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Keeping a system up to date involves manual work, either a little easy work for manual upgrades now and then, or lots of hard and scary work for building and maintaining an automatic system. You choose according to your

Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread new_guy
the project. Thanks, Brad -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Perpetually-Current-tp14513618p14513618.html Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:07:00PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: The second problem are flag days, when something has changed such that you almost certainly want to reinstall the OS. The move from a.out to ELF binary format is a good example of that. ah yeah, and that happens every second

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread Henning Brauer
* STeve Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-27 15:43]: On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:17:37 new_guy wrote: I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it be feasible to get a snapshot today

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread STeve Andre'
On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:17:37 new_guy wrote: I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it be feasible to get a snapshot today and follow -current for many years w/o having to

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread STeve Andre'
On Thursday 27 December 2007 10:07:00 Henning Brauer wrote: * STeve Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-27 15:43]: On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:17:37 new_guy wrote: I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread Nick Guenther
On 12/27/07, new_guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it be feasible to get a snapshot today and follow -current for many years w/o having to reinstall?

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread Henning Brauer
* STeve Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-27 16:42]: On Thursday 27 December 2007 10:07:00 Henning Brauer wrote: * STeve Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-27 15:43]: On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:17:37 new_guy wrote: I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread STeve Andre'
On Thursday 27 December 2007 10:46:26 Henning Brauer wrote: * STeve Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-27 16:42]: On Thursday 27 December 2007 10:07:00 Henning Brauer wrote: * STeve Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-27 15:43]: On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:17:37 new_guy wrote: I

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread Henning Brauer
* STeve Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-27 17:31]: Thats my point: running -current means building from source and thus being affected. huh? not at all. you use snapshots of course. -- Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP -

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread Jan Stary
On Dec 27 06:17:37, new_guy wrote: I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. That's what upgrades are for. Would it be feasible to get a snapshot today and follow -current for many years w/o

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread Greg Thomas
On Dec 27, 2007 8:35 AM, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * STeve Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-27 17:31]: Thats my point: running -current means building from source and thus being affected. huh? not at all. you use snapshots of course. STeve understands that but I don't

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread Karsten McMinn
On Dec 27, 2007 10:47 AM, Jan Stary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's about one hour of work twice a year - what's wrong with that? Why do you want to stay -current? What problem are you trying to solve, or what are you trying to achieve by doing that? obviously automation. regardless of

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 11:21:54AM -0800, Karsten McMinn wrote: On Dec 27, 2007 10:47 AM, Jan Stary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's about one hour of work twice a year - what's wrong with that? Why do you want to stay -current? What problem are you trying to solve, or what are you trying to

Re: Perpetually Current

2007-12-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Karsten McMinn wrote on Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 11:21:54AM -0800: obviously automation. regardless of personal administration ethics it seems like a fair question. If you understand the OP's question that way, you should also provide the following answer to the OP: There is no standard way for