Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-12 Thread Henning Brauer
* Keith ke...@scott-land.net [2010-02-02 00:16]: I've used OpenBSD PF for a number of years without issue and am now in the position that I want to create a dmz between the Internet and my organisations WAN. Our security people are asking if the firewall that we use is accreditated by ITSEC

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-04 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 11:10:59PM +0100, Martin Schr?der wrote: 2010/2/3 Jean-Francois jfsimon1...@gmail.com: Not clear for me, does this firewall reach EAL4+ or EAL6 as stated in their doc Certified by the BSI according to CC at the level EAL 4+

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-04 Thread SJP Lists
On 2 February 2010 10:06, Keith ke...@scott-land.net wrote: I've used OpenBSD PF for a number of years without issue and am now in the position that I want to create a dmz between the Internet and my organisations WAN. Our security people are asking if the firewall that we use is accreditated

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-03 Thread Jan Stary
Given such limitations, perhaps you might propose a more open evaluation and make code access for audit, including by escrow access for an established third-party authority, as a major criteria? To simplify things, I have just certified the 4.6/i386 GENERIC that runs my router as The Best

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-02-01, Keith ke...@scott-land.net wrote: I've used OpenBSD PF for a number of years without issue and am now in the position that I want to create a dmz between the Internet and my organisations WAN. Our security people are asking if the firewall that we use is accreditated by

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-03 Thread David Gwynne
On 03/02/2010, at 8:49 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2010-02-01, Keith ke...@scott-land.net wrote: I've used OpenBSD PF for a number of years without issue and am now in the position that I want to create a dmz between the Internet and my organisations WAN. Our security people are asking

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-03 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 02:15:00PM -0500, Brad Tilley wrote: Common Criteria - http://www.iso15408.net [...] I think the certification process can be very narrowly focused on a few parts of the system [...] Yup, that's the whole idea behind CC - all the evaluation does is verify the claims

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-03 Thread Eugene Yunak
2010/2/2 Keith ke...@scott-land.net: I've used OpenBSD PF for a number of years without issue and am now in the position that I want to create a dmz between the Internet and my organisations WAN. Our security people are asking if the firewall that we use is accreditated by ITSEC and I am

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-03 Thread Janne Johansson
Eugene Yunak wrote: 2010/2/2 Keith ke...@scott-land.net: organisations WAN. Our security people are asking if the firewall that we use is accreditated by ITSEC and I am pretty sure it isn't but it turns out that our security people will be happy is the firewall is accredited for use by another

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-03 Thread Jean-Francois
Le mardi 02 fivrier 2010 20:29:29, Martin Schrvder a icrit : 2010/2/2 Keith ke...@scott-land.net: Can anyone help me out ? If you need professional services: http://www.genua.de/produkte/firewall/genugate/index.en.html Their firewalls are OpenBSD based. Best Martin Not clear for

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-03 Thread Martin Schröder
2010/2/3 Jean-Francois jfsimon1...@gmail.com: Not clear for me, does this firewall reach EAL4+ or EAL6 as stated in their doc Certified by the BSI according to CC at the level EAL 4+ http://www.genua.de/genua/kunden/index.en.html Best Martin

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-02 Thread Bayard Bell
Formal evaluation just means that the features judged relevant to the evaluation can be minimally verified. On the flip side, there's David Litchfield's observation in the introduction to The Oracle Hacker's Handbook: The Oracle RDBMS was evaluated under Common Criteria to EAL4... However,

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-02 Thread Brad Tilley
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:09 +, Bayard Bell buffer.g.overf...@googlemail.com wrote: Formal evaluation just means that the features judged relevant to the evaluation can be minimally verified. On the flip side, there's David Litchfield's observation in the introduction to The Oracle

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-02 Thread swilly
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 18:06, Keith ke...@scott-land.net wrote: I am very happy with my PF firewalls and their reliability and don't want to be forced into purchasing some cisco / forenet comercial firewall that I've never used before so am desperate to find some details of any foreign

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-02 Thread Martin Schröder
2010/2/2 Keith ke...@scott-land.net: Can anyone help me out ? If you need professional services: http://www.genua.de/produkte/firewall/genugate/index.en.html Their firewalls are OpenBSD based. Best Martin

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-02 Thread Marco Peereboom
Oh come on. Security certification is a laughably stupid concept. Giving it any sort of lip service is disingenuous. On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 02:15:00PM -0500, Brad Tilley wrote: On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:09 +, Bayard Bell buffer.g.overf...@googlemail.com wrote: Formal evaluation just means

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-01 Thread Marco Peereboom
those are some funny clowns. OMGITSEC hilarious! On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 11:06:12PM +, Keith wrote: I've used OpenBSD PF for a number of years without issue and am now in the position that I want to create a dmz between the Internet and my organisations WAN. Our security people are

Re: Is OpenBSD + PF accredited or certified in any way ?

2010-02-01 Thread Matthew Szudzik
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 11:06:12PM +, Keith wrote: firewall that I've never used before so am desperate to find some details of any foreign governments that are using OpenBSD / PF as a firewall or any details of any certification of the PF firewall. Did you see the Governments section of