Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-09 Thread Didi
http://www.jnode.org/ has been around for a while and if you search sf.net for +java +operating +system http://sourceforge.net/search/?words=%2Bjava+%2Bostype_of_search=softpmode=0words=%2Bjava+%2Boperating+%2BsystemSearch=Search you get 86 results. So the C# version was bound to follow. And as

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-08 Thread Die Gestalt
Are you sure you used the STL? http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/driver/kernel/KMcode.mspx Read the section about Libraries: Although much of the Standard Template Library is implemented as source code in headers, it occasionally uses library functions or other features that are not

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Die Gestalt
Having a kernel with managed code is not necessarily idiotic (although I think in most cases smart pointers do the job better). However having chosen C# is in my opinion not optimal. C# is very limited when it comes to generic and meta-programming. I think modern-styled C++ (ie template

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 12:19:03PM +0100, Die Gestalt wrote: Having a kernel with managed code is not necessarily idiotic (although I think in most cases smart pointers do the job better). However having chosen C# is in my opinion not optimal. C# is very limited when it comes to generic and

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Die Gestalt
I don't think it is relevant or even polite to question one's abilities when discussing technical matters. If you have a point to make, please proceed. Have you ever been involved in OS design and implementation? And I do not mean academic exercises, but a real world project producing

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Marco Peereboom
Point is that C++ is retarded. On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 01:16:16PM +0100, Die Gestalt wrote: I don't think it is relevant or even polite to question one's abilities when discussing technical matters. If you have a point to make, please proceed. Have you ever been involved in OS design

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 12:19:03PM +0100, Die Gestalt wrote: Having a kernel with managed code is not necessarily idiotic (although I think in most cases smart pointers do the job better). Love the marketing lingo managed code. I am sure we can move some boxes with that term. However

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Tony Abernethy
Perpetual motion machines? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Die Gestalt Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 6:16 AM To: Otto Moerbeek Cc: misc Subject: Re: Singularity OS I don't think it is relevant or even polite to question one's

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 01:16:16PM +0100, Die Gestalt wrote: I don't think it is relevant or even polite to question one's abilities when discussing technical matters. If you have a point to make, please proceed. You state an opinion without backing it up by referring to either existing

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Die Gestalt
Sorry my answer was perhaps a bit aggressive. I tend to get a bit... unsettled as I hear very often C++ is crap and a nonsense in the kernel from people who never seriously studied the language. I wrote several drivers in Windows NT using C++/STL/Boost and they had excellent performances and

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 03:06:26PM +0100, Die Gestalt wrote: Sorry my answer was perhaps a bit aggressive. I tend to get a bit... unsettled as I hear very often C++ is crap and a nonsense in the kernel from people who never seriously studied the language. I have studied it and used it on many

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread 代表 Erik Harmon
What's next? an OS in java and php? There's been a Java OS in development for a while. http://www.jnode.org/ Erik

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 06:56:24AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 12:19:03PM +0100, Die Gestalt wrote: Having a kernel with managed code is not necessarily idiotic (although I think in most cases smart pointers do the job better). Love the marketing lingo managed

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Marco Peereboom
Can't wait to see it's incredible success at being an OS. Ever wondered why your cell phone OS sucks? On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 09:37:13AM -0600, Erik Harmon wrote: What's next? an OS in java and php? There's been a Java OS in development for a while.

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Steve Shockley
Marco Peereboom wrote: What's next? an OS in java and php? Are you living in 2001? It should be in Ruby on Rails.

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However having chosen C# is in my opinion not optimal. C# is very limited when it comes to generic and meta-programming. What's next? an OS in java and php? Marco, it would be better for you if you make informed

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread bofh
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Steve Shockley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marco Peereboom wrote: What's next? an OS in java and php? Are you living in 2001? It should be in Ruby on Rails. No, the OS should be written in silverlight. -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Gilles Chehade
Mayuresh Kathe a icrit : On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However having chosen C# is in my opinion not optimal. C# is very limited when it comes to generic and meta-programming. What's next? an OS in java and php? Marco, it would be

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Vikas N Kumar
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:29 AM, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Steve Shockley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marco Peereboom wrote: What's next? an OS in java and php? Are you living in 2001? It should be in Ruby on Rails. No, the OS should be written in

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Gilles Chehade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayuresh Kathe a icrit : On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However having chosen C# is in my opinion not optimal. C# is very limited when it comes to generic and

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Vikas N Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a kernel being written in Lisp called Movitz ( http://common-lisp.net/project/movitz/) and there was one in Python as well that I saw a few years ago but I forget the name (it started with U...) Unununium.org -- Jonathan

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Mike Larkin
Die Gestalt wrote: I wrote several drivers in Windows NT using C++/STL/Boost and they had excellent performances and reliability. Are you sure you used the STL? http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/driver/kernel/KMcode.mspx Read the section about Libraries: Although much of the Standard

Singularity OS

2008-03-06 Thread Adrian Fisher
Hello chaps :) I just saw this on the net about a new OS from M$ called Singularity. What do you think of it thus far? http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/174267/microsoft-releases-robust-new-operating-system.html

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-06 Thread Henry Sieff
DELURK The OS is coded in an extension of C# - rather than more simple C or C++ - to avoid the flaws of today's operating systems, such as their susceptibility to buffer overruns from worms or viruses. Hahahahahahahahahaha! I needed that laugh. LURK On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Adrian

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-06 Thread 代表 Erik Harmon
Thank God someone is writing an OS with dependability and security in mind. Erik On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Adrian Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello chaps :) I just saw this on the net about a new OS from M$ called Singularity. What do you think of it thus far?

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-06 Thread Vikas N Kumar
The OS is written in Managed code and designed by managers :) On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Henry Sieff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DELURK The OS is coded in an extension of C# - rather than more simple C or C++ - to avoid the flaws of today's operating systems, such as their susceptibility

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-06 Thread Andrés
I wonder if anyone actually took a look to the code before opening his/her mouth. Note that I don't trust Microsoft either, but giving that Singularity is not planned to be a successor to Windows, but a research experiment, makes me think it _can_ be good.

Re: Singularity OS (O/T Trolling)

2008-03-06 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:27:49 +, Andris wrote: I wonder if anyone actually took a look to the code before opening his/her mouth. Note that I don't trust Microsoft either, but giving that Singularity is not planned to be a successor to Windows, but a research experiment, makes me think it _can_