Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-14 Thread Renaud Allard
On 01/14/2014 05:49 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: Em 14-01-2014 01:11, Christopher Ahrens escreveu: What I meant by bare-metal was if I should run a bunch of services on the same installation of OpenBSD. I've run in the same physical space issue with my company servers and didn't think

Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-14 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 14-01-2014 06:49, Renaud Allard escreveu: To be fair, virtualizing stuff without a common shared storage is a little bit useless. The biggest power of virtualization is to be able to move VMs between physical hosts or even powering on physical hosts when you need more power. But security

Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-13 Thread Christopher Ahrens
OpenBSD running on bare metal or to virtualize and use much smaller OpenBSD virtual machines? If the recommendation is to virtualize, what platform should I use? The dmesg of the systems I'll be using: OpenBSD 5.4 (GENERIC.MP) #41: Tue Jul 30 15:30:02 MDT 2013 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr

Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-13 Thread L. V. Lammert
to load all these services on a single instance OpenBSD running on bare metal or to virtualize and use much smaller OpenBSD virtual machines? It would be much better to use a set of small machines (we use older Compaq 386s 486s) for most of those servers, .. save the 'big iron' for a web server

Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-13 Thread Christopher Ahrens
is, is it recommended to load all these services on a single instance OpenBSD running on bare metal or to virtualize and use much smaller OpenBSD virtual machines? It would be much better to use a set of small machines (we use older Compaq 386s 486s) for most of those servers, .. save the 'big iron

Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-13 Thread Jack Woehr
Christopher Ahrens wrote: Wish I could split everything off to physical, but all I have for space for is a mini-rack that fits under my desk in my apartment Sounds like you have answered your own question! -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO

Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-13 Thread Christopher Ahrens
Jack Woehr wrote: Christopher Ahrens wrote: Wish I could split everything off to physical, but all I have for space for is a mini-rack that fits under my desk in my apartment Sounds like you have answered your own question! What I meant by bare-metal was if I should run a bunch of

Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-13 Thread Matthew Weigel
On 1/13/2014 9:11 PM, Christopher Ahrens wrote: Jack Woehr wrote: Christopher Ahrens wrote: Wish I could split everything off to physical, but all I have for space for is a mini-rack that fits under my desk in my apartment Sounds like you have answered your own question! What I meant by

Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-13 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 14-01-2014 01:11, Christopher Ahrens escreveu: What I meant by bare-metal was if I should run a bunch of services on the same installation of OpenBSD. I've run in the same physical space issue with my company servers and didn't think twice to use virtualization. But, as pointed by others,

Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-13 Thread Christopher Ahrens
Matthew Weigel wrote: On 1/13/2014 9:11 PM, Christopher Ahrens wrote: Jack Woehr wrote: Christopher Ahrens wrote: Wish I could split everything off to physical, but all I have for space for is a mini-rack that fits under my desk in my apartment Sounds like you have answered your own

Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-13 Thread Matt M
I personally wouldn't advise using a single bare-metal machine just for dhcp, a separate one for dns, a separate one for sendmail etc. Seems like a huge waste of resources to me. My opinion is that you would fare better, as was suggested earlier, to use some of the other bare-metal machines for