Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-12-03 Thread Jeff Nelson
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 10:56:53AM +0100, Robert Urban wrote: could this please please please be the last of this pure-noise thread??? please please? Come on Robert, lighten up. Drink a beer. Even geeks need to have fun now and again. Have a great day! -jeff

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-30 Thread Robert Urban
could this please please please be the last of this pure-noise thread??? please please? Ioan Nemes wrote: Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/30 9:44 am ps. Two items regarding the AK47. I've heard that the majority of these are being produced illegally (manufacturer didn't

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-30 Thread Demuel I. Bendano, R.E.E
Their development operating system is DOS with no remote hole in the default install, in more than 20 years and counting! The one remote whole in the default install happened only when they created OpenBSD. On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 02:48:27PM -0600, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: Hi OpenBSD

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-30 Thread Anton Karpov
Actually, three IS remote hole in OpenBSD :(. This is small door hole for cats in Theo's house.

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-30 Thread stuartv
really dirty. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Farrell Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 5:44 PM Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using? ps. Two items regarding the AK47. I've heard

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Fergus Wilde
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 03:05, you wrote: On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 06:50:22PM -0800, Karsten McMinn wrote: On 11/28/06, Diana Eichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a soldering iron, dremel tool, sheet metal/plastic nibbler and solder wick. diana PS Then I load my AR-15 to see

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread bofh
On 11/28/06, Lyndon Nerenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 7:39 PM, Chris Kuethe wrote: if you're not careful about your date, you might find you have some unwanted growfs. you never know what's in swap space. That's why it's important to finger, first. yes

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, bofh wrote: On 11/28/06, Lyndon Nerenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 7:39 PM, Chris Kuethe wrote: if you're not careful about your date, you might find you have some unwanted growfs. you never know what's in swap space. That's why it's

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Demuel I. Bendano, R.E.E
From what I read of, they might be using some sort of machine language. Hi OpenBSD developers, Which are your preferred tools for develop? (For C, C++, Java, etcno matter the language) It is good to know which tools and why... Thanks, Alvaro

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Samurai Chef
wouldn't the primary tool they all use be the greymatter in their skulls?

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Mike Erdely
Samurai Chef wrote: wouldn't the primary tool they all use be the greymatter in their skulls? Didn't beck@ write a greymatter perl script to trap evil thoughts? Oh, wait. Wrong script. -ME

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Johan P. Lindström
So far, only NetBSD runs on the AK* architecture. -- JPL On 11/29/06, Ioan Nemes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the problem, you should use an AK45! Much-much cheaper than the AR-15 (I've been offred one for $US15.00 in Sudan), and is widely available. Ioan Diana Eichert [EMAIL

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 06:31:21AM -0700, Diana Eichert wrote: just remember you may end up spawning a daemon child or even worse, some of you may fork a child. Personally, I'm wary of zombies.

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Bret Lambert
Johan P. Lindstrvm wrote: So far, only NetBSD runs on the AK* architecture. Yeah, but it only boots single-user, so it don't count. -- JPL On 11/29/06, Ioan Nemes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the problem, you should use an AK45! Much-much cheaper than the AR-15 (I've been offred one

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread mickey
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 07:20:22PM +0100, Johan P. Lindstr?m wrote: So far, only NetBSD runs on the AK* architecture. most of the struggling nations run on AK-* architecture (AK-47 mostly). On 11/29/06, Ioan Nemes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the problem, you should use an AK45! Much-much

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Miod Vallat (on the road)
So far, only NetBSD runs on the AK* architecture. Yeah, but it only boots single-user, so it don't count. Am I the only one who read this as ``icky architecture''? Miod

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Damian Wiest
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 02:48:27PM -0600, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: Hi OpenBSD developers, Which are your preferred tools for develop? (For C, C++, Java, etcno matter the language) It is good to know which tools and why... Thanks, Alvaro I'm assuming

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Dan Farrell
ps. Two items regarding the AK47. I've heard that the majority of these are being produced illegally (manufacturer didn't get the required license from the Soviet inventor) and that, besides the gun barrel, most parts can be stamped out of sheet metal instead of having to be machined.

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Don Koch
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:58:42 -0700 (MST) Diana Eichert wrote: I use a soldering iron, dremel tool, sheet metal/plastic nibbler and solder wick. diana PS Then I load my AR-15 to see if I can shoot any holes in my code. I find that for QA [1], using a double-barrel 10 ga. shoots lots of

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Ioan Nemes
Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/30 9:44 am ps. Two items regarding the AK47. I've heard that the majority of these are being produced illegally (manufacturer didn't get the required license from the Soviet inventor) and that, besides the gun barrel, most parts can be stamped out of sheet

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-29 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 11/29/06, Damian Wiest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) visual editor -- ed, vi, emacs 2) revision control system -- RCS, CVS, Subversion 3) portability tools -- autotools (autoconf, automake, libtool) 4) build system -- make, gmake, bmake 5) packaging system -- pkgsrc, Open and FreeBSD ports

Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
Hi OpenBSD developers, Which are your preferred tools for develop? (For C, C++, Java, etcno matter the language) It is good to know which tools and why... Thanks, Alvaro

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Bob Beck
* Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-28 14:03]: Hi OpenBSD developers, Which are your preferred tools for develop? (For C, C++, Java, etcno matter the language) Visual C++, .NET, and C sharp of course. Theo mandates taht we all to use only the 7337est

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Floor Terra
Hi, Probably the preferred tool is a computer, a keyboard is a big plus too. Trust me, I tried programming on a Palm TX with the stylus. For brainstorming a pen and paper could be helpful. And if I run into problems Google is my friend. The more specific tools depend on the language and type of

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Ioan Nemes
That's the problem, you should use an AK45! Much-much cheaper than the AR-15 (I've been offred one for $US15.00 in Sudan), and is widely available. Ioan Diana Eichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/29 9:58 am I use a soldering iron, dremel tool, sheet metal/plastic nibbler and solder wick. diana PS

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread John Brooks
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using? That's the problem, you should use an AK45! Much-much cheaper than the AR-15 (I've been offred one for $US15.00 in Sudan), and is widely available. Ioan Diana Eichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/29 9:58 am I use

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Zoong PHAM
On Tuesday, 28 November 2006 at 18:12:48 -0500, Jim Razmus wrote: * Diana Eichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [061128 18:09]: I use a soldering iron, dremel tool, sheet metal/plastic nibbler and solder wick. I am low budget developer so I use chopsticks, sushi and tap water.

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Zoong PHAM
On Tuesday, 28 November 2006 at 17:33:38 -0600, John Brooks wrote: Haven't heard of an AK45, but I'm told the Russians are real proud of their AK-47. The AK47 is the original and the most popular (licenced to China and other countries to manufacture) of the AK series. There are newer and more

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Shane J Pearson
On 29/11/2006, at 11:43 AM, Zoong PHAM wrote: On Tuesday, 28 November 2006 at 18:12:48 -0500, Jim Razmus wrote: * Diana Eichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [061128 18:09]: I use a soldering iron, dremel tool, sheet metal/plastic nibbler and solder wick. I am low budget developer so I use chopsticks,

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Zoong PHAM wrote: I am low budget developer so I use chopsticks, sushi and tap water. Since when is sushi low budget? Must be in Japan? Lee Leland V. Lammert[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Scientist

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread bofh
On 11/28/06, Shane J Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you don't eat fugu! That would be blasphemy! I think Theo actually had fugu once, so it can't be that bad, so maybe that's how he got his powers?

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread bofh
On 11/28/06, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Zoong PHAM wrote: I am low budget developer so I use chopsticks, sushi and tap water. Since when is sushi low budget? Must be in Japan? Sushi is the fast food in Japan, easily and cheaply available all over the place.

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Miod Vallat (on the road)
I never seen a AK45. Maybe it's a open source version of AK47. Anyway, AK47s are simple and just works like OpenBSD. USB AK47 are not ready for primetime, though, the driver has issues. Get a missile launcher instead.

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 11/28/06, Diana Eichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a soldering iron, dremel tool, sheet metal/plastic nibbler and solder wick. diana PS Then I load my AR-15 to see if I can shoot any holes in my code. I highly recommend glue guns, gnomes and jars of fat free mayonaise. why fat free

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 06:50:22PM -0800, Karsten McMinn wrote: On 11/28/06, Diana Eichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a soldering iron, dremel tool, sheet metal/plastic nibbler and solder wick. diana PS Then I load my AR-15 to see if I can shoot any holes in my code. I highly

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Shane J Pearson
On 29/11/2006, at 2:05 PM, Darrin Chandler wrote: C'mon! Stick to the real topic! I love tail, personally. When that doesn't do it, then head usually works. Careful doing that in a public forum. If you get caught, your GF/wife might use split on you. Shane J Pearson shanejp netspace net

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Chris Kuethe
On 11/28/06, Shane J Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/11/2006, at 2:05 PM, Darrin Chandler wrote: C'mon! Stick to the real topic! I love tail, personally. When that doesn't do it, then head usually works. Careful doing that in a public forum. If you get caught, your GF/wife might use

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 02:26:16PM +1100, Shane J Pearson wrote: On 29/11/2006, at 2:05 PM, Darrin Chandler wrote: C'mon! Stick to the real topic! I love tail, personally. When that doesn't do it, then head usually works. Careful doing that in a public forum. If you get caught, your

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Nov 28, 2006, at 7:39 PM, Chris Kuethe wrote: if you're not careful about your date, you might find you have some unwanted growfs. you never know what's in swap space. That's why it's important to finger, first.

Re: Which tools the OpenBSD developers are using?

2006-11-28 Thread Travers Buda
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 01:28:51 + Miod Vallat (on the road) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never seen a AK45. Maybe it's a open source version of AK47. Anyway, AK47s are simple and just works like OpenBSD. USB AK47 are not ready for primetime, though, the driver has issues. Get a missile