Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread Darren Spiteri
On Feb 13, 2008 11:08 AM, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/12/08, Darren Spiteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is irrelevant on a firewall/router. Sorry, you are wrong. I can achieve much higher throughput per connected state by tweaking recvspace and sendspace. then your

Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread Darren Spiteri
On Feb 13, 2008 1:40 AM, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008/02/13 01:04, Darren Spiteri wrote: Try tweaking this sysctl: net.inet.tcp.recvspc Give it sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.recvspace=262144 and run your tests. Tweak it down from there. This is irrelevant on a

Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread NetOne - Doichin Dokov
Darren Spiteri ??: On Feb 13, 2008 11:08 AM, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/12/08, Darren Spiteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is irrelevant on a firewall/router. Sorry, you are wrong. I can achieve much higher throughput per connected state by tweaking

Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread raven
Ted Unangst ha scritto: On 2/12/08, Darren Spiteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know why or how this poorly documented sysctl works, but the result speaks for itself. Note the dramatic throughput increase of the parent. running netperf on a firewall is a poor test of forwarding

Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread bofh
On Feb 12, 2008 9:47 PM, Darren Spiteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 13, 2008 1:36 PM, David Higgs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's your definition of network performance? What's your delineation between a firewall and a router? I believe Ted's point is that receiving and sending

Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread Darren Spiteri
On Feb 13, 2008 1:36 PM, David Higgs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's your definition of network performance? What's your delineation between a firewall and a router? I believe Ted's point is that receiving and sending packets (i.e. using it as an endpoint) is the job of a server, not a

Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread Darren Spiteri
On Feb 13, 2008 2:12 PM, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 12, 2008 9:47 PM, Darren Spiteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firewalls that have proxy software operate as both client and server. This is now going into the silly place. David Higgs told you what is the definition of network

Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread bofh
On Feb 12, 2008 11:21 PM, Darren Spiteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now we're just getting into semantics. It is not uncommon for a firewall to operate on layer 7, even with OpenBSD, considering that an essential component of PF is ftp-proxy. What you call a firewall I call a screen-router.

Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread Darren Spiteri
On Feb 13, 2008 2:28 PM, David Higgs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless I'm massively wrong about what net.inet.tcp.* is used for, this indicates that the parent was NOT testing throughput as one would typically define it for a router/firewall. He was testing his box's ability to send and

Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread David Higgs
On Feb 12, 2008 9:44 PM, Darren Spiteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 13, 2008 11:47 AM, NetOne - Doichin Dokov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could we have a look at those numbers, in fact? From the parent: In the next step I increased the value for net.inet.tcp.recvspace and

Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread David Higgs
On Feb 12, 2008 8:37 PM, raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Unangst ha scritto: On 2/12/08, Darren Spiteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know why or how this poorly documented sysctl works, but the result speaks for itself. Note the dramatic throughput increase of the parent.

Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread Darren Spiteri
I don't agree, considering that OpenBSD firewalls often run ftp-proxy and other layer 7 relays such as hoststated and squid. You may be right that this is a red-herring in the qualified bare-bones router config, but it answered the parent poster's question. On Feb 13, 2008 11:45 AM, Ted Unangst

Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread Ted Unangst
On 2/12/08, Darren Spiteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know why or how this poorly documented sysctl works, but the result speaks for itself. Note the dramatic throughput increase of the parent. running netperf on a firewall is a poor test of forwarding performance.

Re: harddisk impact on routing firewall performance/throughput

2008-02-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008/02/13 01:04, Darren Spiteri wrote: Try tweaking this sysctl: net.inet.tcp.recvspc Give it sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.recvspace=262144 and run your tests. Tweak it down from there. This is irrelevant on a firewall/router. I have been using openbsd as router and firewall for several