Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-14 Thread dormando
(sorry for screwing up the thread; I'm on the daily digest list. Please CC responses to me as well). Hey, I have two machines who are recent, high end, PCI-Express, single CPU dualcore, but unfortunately one's AMD, one's Intel, and I can't find the actual specs as of this moment. I purchased

hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Henning Brauer
As some of you might have noticed, I worked on network stack and especially pf performance in calgary. This lead to quite massive improvements - one diff in particular doubled pf performance in our test scenario; undeadly covered that: http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20070528213858

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread bofh
On 6/13/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very fast single-CPU machines here in Hamburg, asap, since I have some time for such development right now. If you can help, please drop deraadt@ and me an email. Got me a t-shirt, a 4.1 CD set, and $100 to you. -- This officer's men seem to

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Theo de Raadt
On 6/13/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very fast single-CPU machines here in Hamburg, asap, since I have some time for such development right now. If you can help, please drop deraadt@ and me an email. Got me a t-shirt, a 4.1 CD set, and $100 to you. Thanks a lot. However

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On Jun 13, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: However I wish there were some large companies out there using and relying in pf, who could just decide (right now) Suggestion for tapping the Large Company resource for OpenBSD: 1) Create an OpenBSD User Survey a) should include

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Jason Dixon
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:02:42 -0600, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/13/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very fast single-CPU machines here in Hamburg, asap, since I have some time for such development right now. If you can help, please drop deraadt@ and me an email.

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Jun 13, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: However I wish there were some large companies out there using and relying in pf, who could just decide (right now) Suggestion for tapping the Large Company resource for OpenBSD: 1) Create an OpenBSD User Survey a) should

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Bob Beck
3) Use info garnered through survey to a) craft appeals on website Don't need a survey for this. we have a pretty good idea what biggies are using it. b) create email appeals to self-identified users in correct classes. Oh, a directed spam

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On Jun 13, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Bob Beck wrote: Oh, a directed spam campaign. perfect. that will endear us to our users. Please return to marketing school from whence you came, and think before you suggest such things. A open source entity asking for donations from commercial

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Will H. Backman
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Theo de Raadt Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:30 PM To: Jack J. Woehr Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work On Jun 13, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Theo de Raadt

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Jim Razmus
* Jack J. Woehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070613 13:27]: On Jun 13, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: However I wish there were some large companies out there using and relying in pf, who could just decide (right now) Suggestion for tapping the Large Company resource for OpenBSD: 1)

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Greg Thomas
On 6/13/07, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These performance enhancements will not affect regular private users, but will be of particular benefit to companies who use our software in larger installs. Companies should stand up when such requests are made, or they and their employees

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Theo de Raadt
Oh, a directed spam campaign. perfect. that will endear us to our users. Please return to marketing school from whence you came, and think before you suggest such things. A open source entity asking for donations from commercial entities with whom they already have a business

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On Jun 13, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: No campaign will fix that. I dunno, marketing seems to work sometimes. Maybe it can never work *for OpenBSD*, because when some CIO or MIS manager hits the list to ask a question they get roasted by the fachidiot of the day. End of corporate

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On Jun 13, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Will H. Backman wrote: All fundraising suggestions should be written on the back of a $100 bill and sent to Theo. I agree. I sent two Bluetooth cards and $100 cc donation in the past twelvemonth. -- Jack J. Woehr Director of Development Absolute Performance,

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Theo de Raadt
No campaign will fix that. I dunno, marketing seems to work sometimes. You plain don't get it! You want us to do MORE. We don't want to do more. Keep suggesting it, and I promise we'll do LESS.

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Theo de Raadt
All fundraising suggestions should be written on the back of a $100 bill and sent to Theo. I agree. I sent two Bluetooth cards and $100 cc donation in the past twelvemonth. Yes, such small contributions help a lot -- in the places where individuals can help. But when big things are

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:07:45PM -0600, Jack J. Woehr wrote: Your point however that it takes work is a justified point. You've got a www@ responsponsible party. Maybe an appeals@ responsible party to make webbage, write surveys, and spawn begging campaigns? Or maybe we need 20 more people

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 6/13/07, Jack J. Woehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. I sent two Bluetooth cards and $100 cc donation in the past twelvemonth. right, but it's a $100 per suggestion per email. by my count you're $400 in the hole (-:

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Bob Beck
Or maybe we need 20 more people like Jason Dixon, to make an appeal to a company where they have contacts, where the message will at least be read. That's directly targetted, and therefore more meaningful, and I think has a higher chance of success. Anyone out there know companies using and

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, Jason Dixon wrote: I'm probably going to lose a friend over this, but I'd like to challenge iXsystems to step up and donate a couple systems for this purpose. It would benefit everyone for you guys to donate the hardware to further optimize PF. We all know that PF has

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Eric Furman
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:01:47 -0600, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Oh, a directed spam campaign. perfect. that will endear us to our users. Please return to marketing school from whence you came, and think before you suggest such things. A open source entity asking for

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Matt Olander
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 10:26 am, Jason Dixon wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:02:42 -0600, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/13/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very fast single-CPU machines here in Hamburg, asap, since I have some time for such development right now.

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Martin Schröder
2007/6/13, Matt Olander [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Where is Henning located? Shipping free stuff out of country is sometimes a pain and takes longer. Hamburg, Germany. Henning, is DENIC still using OpenBGPD? Best Martin

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Florin Andrei
Henning Brauer wrote: Now I am back in Hamburg and would like to continue that work. There is quite a lot more performance to gain, but I need to be able to measure, profile etc. For that I need two (preferably identical) 1u rackmount, very fast single-CPU machines here in Hamburg, asap,

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Jim Razmus
* Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070613 20:02]: Henning Brauer wrote: Now I am back in Hamburg and would like to continue that work. There is quite a lot more performance to gain, but I need to be able to measure, profile etc. For that I need two (preferably identical) 1u rackmount,

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Theo de Raadt
Henning Brauer wrote: Now I am back in Hamburg and would like to continue that work. There is quite a lot more performance to gain, but I need to be able to measure, profile etc. For that I need two (preferably identical) 1u rackmount, very fast single-CPU machines here in Hamburg,

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Henning Brauer
* Martin Schrvder [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-14 01:24]: 2007/6/13, Matt Olander [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Where is Henning located? Shipping free stuff out of country is sometimes a pain and takes longer. Hamburg, Germany. Henning, is DENIC still using OpenBGPD? DECIX, yes, but they're not the

Re: hardware needed for network stack performance work

2007-06-13 Thread Henning Brauer
* Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-14 02:04]: Henning Brauer wrote: Now I am back in Hamburg and would like to continue that work. There is quite a lot more performance to gain, but I need to be able to measure, profile etc. For that I need two (preferably identical) 1u rackmount,