Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-29 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Anthony J. Bentley wrote on Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 07:15:07PM -0600: Eric Oyen writes: h. that may be another method of viewing a man page, converting it to a text based PDF. that is something to consider. mandoc supports PDF output as well. For example, with the following command:

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Vadim Zhukov
Am I right you need ASCII-like output without extra formatting (e.g., terminal escape codes)? Something like: xyz utility does the following: blah-blah. The options are as follows: -h to make you happy. -k to kill your ex-girl's kitten. -v to make sure everyone know what are you doing. See also

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
I use OpenOffice for editing html pages. this makes editing web pages remarkably easy for me. Believe me, editing raw html is a real pita. so, if I want to properly edit a man page, I need to use something that supports DOC 7? that wood be nice to have on my OS X system. Here's a really funny

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread ropers
On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: I need to use something that supports DOC 7? What is DOC 7? Do you mean the Microsoft Office 97 binary .doc file format?

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Technomage Hawke
it was mentioned in another posting in this thread. I am not sure what uses that specific format. -eric On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:27 AM, ropers wrote: On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: I need to use something that supports DOC 7? What is DOC 7? Do you mean the

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
something like that. also, you might see a few responses from my alternate email (technomage.hawke@***.***). I need to make sure my send field is set correctly. g. I am not sure what application would be good for editing (or creating) man pages such that I don't need to worry about all of

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread ropers
On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: a braille API that works in Linux and all flavors of BSD: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=braille+screenreader+OpenBSDsource=we bcd=8ved=0CKsEEBYwBwurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhal.inria.fr%2Fdocs%2F00%2F13%2F59%2F

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 15:27, ropers wrote: On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: I need to use something that supports DOC 7? What is DOC 7? Do you mean the Microsoft Office 97 binary .doc file format? mdoc. I think his screen reader doesn't even read man

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
I tried the copy link option in the context menu for Safari. It should have given the direct link but I got that instead. sometimes, being blind can be a real Pain in the backside. I hope that was a text based pdf. the pdf app I use here (Safari) will spit a blank page at me in voiceover if its

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
h! that explains a lot. now I know where to go. :) On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Ted Unangst wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 15:27, ropers wrote: On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: I need to use something that supports DOC 7? What is DOC 7? Do you mean

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Kurt Mosiejczuk
Eric Oyen wrote: I tried the copy link option in the context menu for Safari. It should have given the direct link but I got that instead. sometimes, being blind can be a real Pain in the backside. That's not your fault, that is Google (and everyone else) substituting their own

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:51:46PM -0400, Kurt Mosiejczuk wrote: Eric Oyen wrote: I tried the copy link option in the context menu for Safari. It should have given the direct link but I got that instead. sometimes, being blind can be a real Pain in the backside. That's not your fault,

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Dennis Davis
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, ropers wrote: From: ropers rop...@gmail.com To: Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com Cc: misc misc@openbsd.org Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:25:14 Subject: Re: man page contents [was: Re: C**.org] ... Even with that, I didn't quite manage with OpenBSD (there seems

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread ropers
On 27 July 2012 18:51, Kurt Mosiejczuk kurt-openbsd-m...@se.rit.edu wrote: Eric Oyen wrote: I tried the copy link option in the context menu for Safari. It should have given the direct link but I got that instead. sometimes, being blind can be a real Pain in the backside. That's not your

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 19:11, Marc Espie wrote: I'm surprised there aren't more plugins to fix that. Especially since the link shows the actual location, encoded ! maybe try this? pretty simple, worksforme (c). http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/107272

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
. that is something to consider. -eric On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Dennis Davis wrote: On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, ropers wrote: From: ropers rop...@gmail.com To: Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com Cc: misc misc@openbsd.org Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:25:14 Subject: Re: man page contents [was: Re: C

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Brett
that may be another method of viewing a man page You can use: man manpagename | col -b file to convert a page to a text file, this might be easier for you to read/edit. Brett.

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Eric Oyen writes: h. that may be another method of viewing a man page, converting it to a text based PDF. that is something to consider. mandoc supports PDF output as well. For example, with the following command: mandoc -Tpdf /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1 /tmp/ls.pdf

man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-26 Thread Eric Oyen
man, the format of that page is ugly to listen to. lots of back slashes. I noticed there didn't appear to be any line/returns in there (and that is something my screen reader doesn't make clear either). I will have to find an online version of the man page mentioned below. -eric On Jul 26,

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-26 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 17:27, Eric Oyen wrote: man, the format of that page is ugly to listen to. lots of back slashes. I noticed there didn't appear to be any line/returns in there (and that is something my screen reader doesn't make clear either). It is a markup language. Is editing HTML