Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-30 Thread Kenneth Gober
On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Folks, since we are at it, does anyone knows why 'OpenBSD' is spelled > like that and not 'openbsd' . I was ponder that for a time, because I > know you all hate camelCase notation. In this context, "OpenBSD" is a proper

Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-29 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2016-10-29, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Folks, since we are at it, does anyone knows why 'OpenBSD' is spelled > like that and not 'openbsd' . I was ponder that for a time, because I > know you all hate camelCase notation. > Is it ok open_bsd? For better security: set -A c l u;

Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-29 Thread Mihai Popescu
Folks, since we are at it, does anyone knows why 'OpenBSD' is spelled like that and not 'openbsd' . I was ponder that for a time, because I know you all hate camelCase notation. Is it ok open_bsd? Many thanks :-)

Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-28 Thread lists
> there is no philosophy. > > there was no belief. > > maybe there was a touch of idealism, but nothing as refined as you > suggest. > > it was simply a decision made for a handful of things which got reused > for the rest of them. > > back decades ago. Hi Dan, Sounds good reasonable

Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-28 Thread kuniyoshi
> Stuart Henderson already answered that: > It's easier for the system administrator to have all > configuration files in one place and on one file system: > less places to remember for backup and when migrating > configuration to a new machine. Thanks. > Nothing particular, except that

Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-28 Thread dan mclaughlin
On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 01:21:13 -0600 "Theo de Raadt" wrote: > > > > Different design, different philosophy, and different goals [1] but the > > > > same BSD heritage. > > > > > > There is no philosophy involved. > > > > > > England and the US and Canada are not differences in

Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-28 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, kuniyo...@free.fr wrote on Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 09:44:12AM +0200: > I wonder if there was a technical reason Stuart Henderson already answered that: It's easier for the system administrator to have all configuration files in one place and on one file system: less places to remember for

Re : Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-28 Thread kuniyoshi
Hello. Thank you for your answers (man hier(7)). Just a clarification. I was imprecise. Sorry. My question was rather technical: I wonder if there was a technical reason in particular related to security. I know: FreeBSD is not OpenBSD. I use these two operating systems. And indeed, they are

Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-28 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > > Different design, different philosophy, and different goals [1] but the > > > same BSD heritage. > > > > There is no philosophy involved. > > > > England and the US and Canada are not differences in philosophy. > > > > They are just different. philosophy has little to do with it. > > >

Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-28 Thread dan mclaughlin
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 23:16:50 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Different design, different philosophy, and different goals [1] but the > > same BSD heritage. > > There is no philosophy involved. > > England and the US and Canada are not differences in philosophy. > > They are just different.

Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Different design, different philosophy, and different goals [1] but the > same BSD heritage. There is no philosophy involved. England and the US and Canada are not differences in philosophy. They are just different. philosophy has little to do with it. Stop using that word incorrectly,

Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > I am a (happy) operating system user OpenBSD -current (architecture amd64) > > on my laptop Lenovo ThinkPad X200s. :) > > > > I would like to learn more about this system. I'm curious. I recently > > realized that the third-party software configuration files were in "/etc" > > instead of

Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-27 Thread Fred
On 10/27/16 21:17, kuniyo...@free.fr wrote: Hello. I am a (happy) operating system user OpenBSD -current (architecture amd64) on my laptop Lenovo ThinkPad X200s. :) I would like to learn more about this system. I'm curious. I recently realized that the third-party software configuration

Re: strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-27 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2016-10-27, kuniyo...@free.fr wrote: > Hello. > > I am a (happy) operating system user OpenBSD -current (architecture amd64) on > my laptop Lenovo ThinkPad X200s. :) > > I would like to learn more about this system. I'm curious. I recently > realized that the third-party

strict separation base system and third party software

2016-10-27 Thread kuniyoshi
Hello. I am a (happy) operating system user OpenBSD -current (architecture amd64) on my laptop Lenovo ThinkPad X200s. :) I would like to learn more about this system. I'm curious. I recently realized that the third-party software configuration files were in "/etc" instead of "/usr/local/etc"