Re: torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
@Ted : Good to know, thanks for details. @Theo : I am not the OP of the torrent topic. The topic was from thuban. I have no need for a torrent but had only this ideas / doubts about it. Am 27. April 2017 18:43:29 MESZ schrieb Theo de Raadt : >> Christoph R. Murauer wrote: >> > True but let m

Re: torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Christoph R. Murauer wrote: > > True but let me be a littlebit paranoid. Would it not be possible to create > > a new .fs / .iso with new keys in /etc/signify/* and new SHA256 / .sig > > files to place bad content and distribute it using a torrent ? I came > > across this idea as I readed long

Re: torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Ted Unangst
Christoph R. Murauer wrote: > True but let me be a littlebit paranoid. Would it not be possible to create a > new .fs / .iso with new keys in /etc/signify/* and new SHA256 / .sig files to > place bad content and distribute it using a torrent ? I came across this idea > as I readed long time ago

Re: torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
True but let me be a littlebit paranoid. Would it not be possible to create a new .fs / .iso with new keys in /etc/signify/* and new SHA256 / .sig files to place bad content and distribute it using a torrent ? I came across this idea as I readed long time ago some ideas how goverments could dist

Re: torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Thuban
> yes, but unlike those distros the openbsd installers aren't measured in > gigabytes. > Of course, the point doesn't apply to miniroot* but to installxx.xx. It doesn't remove the problem of long download for some and servers bandwidth possible issue. Using miniroot* still requires to download f

Re: torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Ted Unangst
Christoph R. Murauer wrote: > Let's say, you provide a torrent for the .fs and .iso files. Who trusts a > SHA256.sig file from an unofficial torrent ? The whole point of signing the SHA256 is you don't have to trust the person who gives it to you.

Re: torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Let's say, you provide a torrent for the .fs and .iso files. Who trusts a SHA256.sig file from an unofficial torrent ? If you look at the errata page, you see, that you have to patch the system to keep it up to date and, there are no official updates of the .fs and .iso files after a patch. Ev

Re: torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Marco Bonetti
- On Apr 27, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Nicolas Schmidt schmi...@mathematik.hu-berlin.de wrote: > Many distros sport torrents: NetBSD, Debian, and Ubuntu to name some. > Rationale > behind this is simple: torrents download with ridiculous speed if they are > popular enough. To be fair, popular downl

Re: torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Peter Hessler
yes, but unlike those distros the openbsd installers aren't measured in gigabytes. The site mentioned by OP (http://openbsd.somedomain.net) is up to date, and has the torrents mentioned. it just seems, nobody cares. On 2017 Apr 27 (Thu) at 15:07:38 +0200 (+0200), Nicolas Schmidt wrote: :Many d

Re: torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Maxim Bourmistrov
ISO is burned down to the CD you buy. To install you really just need to PXE. > 27 apr. 2017 kl. 13:55 skrev Thuban : > > Hello, > I was wondering if there is any particular reason explaining why there > is no torrent file to retrieve OpenBSD *.fs and *.iso. > > I've been looking on the list

Re: torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Nicolas Schmidt
Many distros sport torrents: NetBSD, Debian, and Ubuntu to name some. Rationale behind this is simple: torrents download with ridiculous speed if they are popular enough. Best, Nicolas > Am 27.04.2017 um 14:36 schrieb Markus Rosjat : > > Hi, > > I think it's kinda pointless to have a torrent

Re: torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Markus Rosjat
Hi, I think it's kinda pointless to have a torrent for this. You got enough good mirrors to download from anyway. And nowadays it's not a biggy to download a iso or so of somewhat 200mb. and yes I'm the proud owner of some awesome puffy shirts too (if someone is concerned about the download

Re: torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Adam Van Ymeren
On April 27, 2017 7:55:42 AM EDT, Thuban wrote: >Hello, >I was wondering if there is any particular reason explaining why there >is no torrent file to retrieve OpenBSD *.fs and *.iso. > >I've been looking on the list and only found this site that doesn't >seems up to date [1]. > >If the reason is

torrent downloads

2017-04-27 Thread Thuban
Hello, I was wondering if there is any particular reason explaining why there is no torrent file to retrieve OpenBSD *.fs and *.iso. I've been looking on the list and only found this site that doesn't seems up to date [1]. If the reason is a lack of human ressources, I think I can handle it. Re