Re: : rouge IPs / user

2007-12-11 Thread Daniel Ouellet
knitti wrote: you tell me that there is some correlation between HTTP keep alives and a socket ending up in CLOSE_WAIT for some time. That is the practical observation. But I'm interested in whether this is by design or not. RFC 2616 doesn't mention implementation details, and I can't see why

Re: Default Route Issues

2007-12-11 Thread Bret
Thank You all for the pointers I now have it up and running and only have a small persistent route problem. Bret Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/12/11 08:40, Bret wrote: OK here is the update: ral0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ieee80211: nwid

Re: apm doesn't sleep/suspend desktop

2007-12-11 Thread Nick Guenther
On 12/11/07, Chris Zakelj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Guenther wrote: On Dec 11, 2007 12:30 AM, Chris Zakelj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curious problem here, though I'm probably missing something obvious. I have apm enabled through /etc/rc.conf.local (apmd_flags=), and when I issue

Re: apm doesn't sleep/suspend desktop

2007-12-11 Thread Chris Zakelj
Nick Guenther wrote: On Dec 11, 2007 12:30 AM, Chris Zakelj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curious problem here, though I'm probably missing something obvious. I have apm enabled through /etc/rc.conf.local (apmd_flags=), and when I issue 'shutdown -h -p now', the system powers off correctly.

Re: apm doesn't sleep/suspend desktop

2007-12-11 Thread Chris Zakelj
Nick Guenther wrote: On 12/11/07, Chris Zakelj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Guenther wrote: On Dec 11, 2007 12:30 AM, Chris Zakelj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curious problem here, though I'm probably missing something obvious. I have apm enabled through /etc/rc.conf.local

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Dec 11, 2007 3:48 PM, Siegbert Marschall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it April 2008 already, or what is happening on this mailing list ? No, but it is about the time for the monthly what is happening to misc comments ;) -B

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 05:11:25PM -0700, Jack J. Woehr wrote: Jacob Meuser wrote: his absolutism also causes people to see BSD as a problem, a social failure. In everything, there is light and dark, interwoven :-) recently we saw theft of BSD to GPL, and a large part of the GPL

Re: About non-free software in OpenBSD

2007-12-11 Thread David H. Lynch Jr.
Lars NoodC)n wrote: Argh, the GPL is so ridiculously complex; nobody understands it. Many do, though. For me it's rather straight forward, as is the BSD license. There are many ways to look at the positive goals of the GPL, but they're not relevant here, since OpenBSD is already

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread ropers
I'd like to add two things I forgot earlier on, for Richards consideration: On 12/12/2007, ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is IMHO very similar to the way the OpenBSD ports system is related to unfree software: - The unfree software is not hosted by OpenBSD. The ports tree effectively

Re: Can I specify the bios time offset utc?

2007-12-11 Thread Dongsheng Song
Yesterday, after a long time, it give me a empty page. Today, It's OK. 2007/12/12, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 11, 2007 11:26 AM, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 11, 2007 12:58 AM, Dongsheng Song [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/11, Darren Spruell [EMAIL

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Travers Buda
* ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-12 01:17:32]: *snip* In addition, it is *considerably harder* to install unfree software on OpenBSD than on gNewSense. This eg. is what installing Skype entails: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.bsd.india/352 On gNewSense, it is *much* easier to

Re: no 4.2-stable package updates??

2007-12-11 Thread Joe
Wow. I didn't know this changed. So if there are security bugs in a package or port shipped with OpenBSD 4.2, there will be no updated package or updated port available? I'm in no position to ask someone to do this, so I won't. But this really bites. On Dec 11, 2007, at 8:09 AM,

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Jacob Meuser wrote: the README.libcdio file in the libcdio sources mentions this file and says it can't be included because it's not GPL. I contacted the libcdio maintainer about this file, and he again said he could not include it because the BSD license is incompatible. Yes, our community

Re: no 4.2-stable package updates??

2007-12-11 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Joe wrote: Wow. I didn't know this changed. This was announced on ports@ IIRC. So if there are security bugs in a package or port shipped with OpenBSD 4.2, there will be no updated package or updated port available? That is correct. -- Antoine

4.2 i386 install fails on a HP Compaq dc7700

2007-12-11 Thread Ioan Nemes
Greetings, Try to install OpenBSD 4.2 i386 on a new HP Compaq dc7700 Small Form Factor, but when it comes to install the software sets from the CD, the install fails: ... ... ... Password for root account? (will not echo) Password for root account? (again) Let's install the sets!

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