On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:06:39 -0600
David Higgs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 22, 2007 5:53 PM, Rico Secada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is my understanding that C is the hackers tool while Ada is the
tool of the engineer. I think it is mostly because of tradition.
Your understanding is
I have used and taught Ada, for what that's worth. I also looked at
Ada for writing OS kernel code, but the quality of the compilers
forced me back to the C family.
Question for the proponents of Ada: how many operating system kernels
do you know of which are written in Ada? Now answer the same
gentoo1 wrote:
Hello :)
I use OpenBSD 4.1 for gateway for my laptop. I set in my pf.conf file :
nat on fxp0 from rl0:network to any - fxp0 ..and other rules. OK and
I have Internet on my laptop. Worked fine! But yesterday my ISP set ttl
to 0 --- ttl=0... and now i try to change this
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:11:50 +1100
Christopher Vance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have used and taught Ada, for what that's worth. I also looked at
Ada for writing OS kernel code, but the quality of the compilers
forced me back to the C family.
What compilers?
Question for the proponents of
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:08:05 +0100
Erik Wikstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-12-22 12:06, Brian Hansen wrote:
Hi.
I address this issue on this list, because a lot of people here are
very skillfull C programmers.
When looking at some of the different reasons for security
problems such
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 09:12:53AM +0100, Rico Secada wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:06:39 -0600
David Higgs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 22, 2007 5:53 PM, Rico Secada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is my understanding that C is the hackers tool while Ada is the
tool of the engineer.
So lets get the story straight. Ada is great but the compiler sucks.
Winning combination for an open source os.
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 04:33:47PM +0100, Rico Secada wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:11:50 +1100
Christopher Vance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have used and taught Ada, for what
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 09:11:55AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
I even found a use for C++! Encapsulating the win32 api using Borland
VCL makes it almost useful and a whole lot less painful. Thats about as
good as I have seen C++ be; everything else is downhill.
But isn't the VCL written in
On Dec 23, 2007, at 1:42 AM, scott wrote:
RE: tunnelblick
you should look at
ssh -w tun0:tun0 ...
option; it's comparatively new and a tad under documented but works
nicely, albeit on tcp.
My complaint with the -w option is not a lack of it working (works
great), but lack of support
On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 12:06:34PM +0100, Brian Hansen wrote:
Hi.
I address this issue on this list, because a lot of people here are very
skillfull C programmers.
Unlike you. You're not even skilled at looking through mailing-list
archives.
This specific subject has already been debated to
On 12/22/07, Brian Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. Rather than auditing a lot of code, correcting a lot of coding mistakes,
like the OpenBSD security team has done, and still do, why not shift from C
to something, just as fast and powerfull as C, but more secure? Again like
Ada. (to
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 09:04:08AM -0800, johan beisser wrote:
My complaint with the -w option is not a lack of it working (works
great), but lack of support through every OS out there; you need to
have a tun driver, also be able to configure the remote side
interface, not to mention the
subject to you all, religious or not!
Religious or not, I consider the fact that you seem to be concerned
about Xmas and not about the Solstice, really offensive.
Grumpy
Christmas is a pagan holiday so it really does not matter if one is
religious or not.
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:11:46PM +0100, Maxim Bourmistrov wrote:
subject to you all, religious or not!
P.S. and Happy New Year!
//Santa
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 12:49:45PM -0600, Max Hayden Chiz wrote:
Unless I am doing something silly, dhcpd(8) may not be accurate
regarding how the fixed-address statement and -L option
inter-operate.
Yesterday I discovered that when you assign a DHCP client an IP
address using the
Who the heck is Marry? :P
Typically one spells it Merry, not Marry.
Please spank the evil monkey who taught you English
-Scrooge (Aka, Nix Fan..)
On Sunday 23 December 2007, Maxim Bourmistrov wrote:
subject to you all, religious or not!
P.S. and Happy New Year!
//Santa
Very thoughtful, the same to you! :)
--
Steve Szmidt
They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety.
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:11:55 -0600
Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is a constant: your code is a bad as the developer.
I agree :-), and here is another constant:
#define strlcpy Theo de Raadt
From lwn.net in 2003:
Years of buffer overflow problems have made it clear that the
The Problem: I am unable to play Guitar Hero on the Internet with ANYONE
through my OpenBSD-4.2 nat gateway. This might not be a problem with pf,
but two of my friends are able to rock out with each other and with
strangers... one through a linux gateway and the other through a linksys
(!!!)
1. use # tcpdump -eni pflog0
2. if that's not revealing then post its output AND the whole pf.conf
file.
3. in the mean time, consider rdr PASS on $IF_RR proto udp from
$REMOTE_IP to ($IF_RR) - $HOST_WII
where PASS is in lower case inside the pf.conf (UCASE here for emphasis
only)
/S
I have been trying to learn programming for a long time.
Admittedly, I've wasted a good amount of time trying to find the
right language to start. I eventually came across Ada. I read all
about it and bought into all the stuff that you've mentioned. I
even spent a couple of hundred dollars
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Marco Peereboom wrote:
Christmas is a pagan holiday so it really does not matter if one is
On Dec 23, 2007 1:40 PM, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/22/07, Brian Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. Rather than auditing a lot of code, correcting a lot of coding
mistakes,
like the OpenBSD security team has done, and still do, why not shift
from C
to something, just as
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007, Kim Naim Lesmer wrote:
The Portable C Compiler (PCC) was written in mid-1970s. PCC shipped
with BSD Unix until the release of 4.4BSD in 1994.
The history of Ada is?
About 10 years younger. So?
Dave
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