Re: amd64 build of HEAD from 02/24 6:30pm CST broke...

2011-02-25 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 01:54:49AM -0600, Ron McDowell wrote:

 Otto Moerbeek wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 08:28:42AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
 
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:55:34AM -0600, Ron McDowell wrote:
 
 Nick Holland wrote:
 On 02/24/11 20:15, Ron McDowell wrote:
 System installed from a 4.8-amd64 CD today, then
 cvs-update to HEAD less than an hour ago...
 No, your process is broke.
 Please read FAQ5.
 The part you definitely violated is 5.3.2
 
 Nick.
 Thanks.  Okay, I threw away that install [literally...it was a
 VMware image so deleted it and created a new one] and reloaded
 from the 4.9 amd64 snapshot install.iso:
 
 # uname -a
 OpenBSD currobsd.volente.us 4.9 GENERIC#470 amd64
 
 and did a clean checkout with:
 cvs -d anon...@anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs checkout -rHEAD -P src
 
 and once again...
 Different process error, so different build error.
 
 Oops, it's the same errror, confused another build error report.
 Anyway, Look at the error message. You are missing a file. Did you
 install all sets?
 
 All but bsd.mp  --rcm

OK, then it looks like you are mixing versions.

 
 -Otto
 
 cc -O2 -pipe -g -DL_ENDIAN -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H
 -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_ERR -DNO_WINDOWS_BRAINDEATH
 -DOPENSSL_NO_IDEA -DOPENSSL_NO_RC5 -DOPENSSL_NO_KRB5
 -DOPENSSL_NO_MDC2 -DOPENSSL_NO_GOST -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_4758_CCA
 -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_AEP -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_ATALLA
 -DOPENSSL_NO_CAPIENG -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_CSWIFT
 -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_NCIPHER -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_NURON
 -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_PADLOCK -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_SUREWARE
 -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_UBSEC -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src
 -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto
 -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/asn1
 -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/evp
 -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/obj -DAES_ASM -DMD5_ASM
 -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DOPENSSL_CPUID_OBJ
 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2   -c
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c -o
 pqueue.o
 In file included from
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:62:
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.h:67:31:
 error: openssl/pq_compat.h: No such file or directory
 In file included from
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:62:
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.h:73:
 error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'PQ_64BIT'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.h:80:
 error: expected ')' before 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.h:89:
 error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before
 'PQ_64BIT'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:71:
 error: expected ')' before 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: In
 function 'pitem_free':
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:90:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: In
 function 'pqueue_insert':
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:125:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:127:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:127:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:129:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:134:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:139:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:139:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:143:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:144:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: In
 function 'pqueue_pop':
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:161:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: At top level:
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:167:
 error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before
 'PQ_64BIT'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: In
 function 'pqueue_find':
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:175:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:176:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:178:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:178:
 error: 'priority' undeclared (first use in this function)
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:178:
 error: (Each 

Re: amd64 build of HEAD from 02/24 6:30pm CST broke...

2011-02-25 Thread Ron McDowell
Otto Moerbeek wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 01:54:49AM -0600, Ron McDowell wrote:

   
 Otto Moerbeek wrote:
 
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 08:28:42AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:

   
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:55:34AM -0600, Ron McDowell wrote:

 
 Nick Holland wrote:
   
 On 02/24/11 20:15, Ron McDowell wrote:
 
 System installed from a 4.8-amd64 CD today, then
 cvs-update to HEAD less than an hour ago...
   
 No, your process is broke.
 Please read FAQ5.
 The part you definitely violated is 5.3.2

 Nick.
 
 Thanks.  Okay, I threw away that install [literally...it was a
 VMware image so deleted it and created a new one] and reloaded
   
 from the 4.9 amd64 snapshot install.iso:
 
 # uname -a
 OpenBSD currobsd.volente.us 4.9 GENERIC#470 amd64

 and did a clean checkout with:
 cvs -d anon...@anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs checkout -rHEAD -P src

 and once again...
   
 Different process error, so different build error.
 
 Oops, it's the same errror, confused another build error report.
 Anyway, Look at the error message. You are missing a file. Did you
 install all sets?
   
 All but bsd.mp  --rcm
 

 OK, then it looks like you are mixing versions.
   

That's why I started with an empty /usr/src and reloaded the OS from a 
4.9 CD image.

   
-Otto

 
 cc -O2 -pipe -g -DL_ENDIAN -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H
 -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_ERR -DNO_WINDOWS_BRAINDEATH
 -DOPENSSL_NO_IDEA -DOPENSSL_NO_RC5 -DOPENSSL_NO_KRB5
 -DOPENSSL_NO_MDC2 -DOPENSSL_NO_GOST -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_4758_CCA
 -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_AEP -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_ATALLA
 -DOPENSSL_NO_CAPIENG -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_CSWIFT
 -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_NCIPHER -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_NURON
 -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_PADLOCK -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_SUREWARE
 -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_UBSEC -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src
 -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto
 -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/asn1
 -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/evp
 -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/obj -DAES_ASM -DMD5_ASM
 -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DOPENSSL_CPUID_OBJ
 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2   -c
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c -o
 pqueue.o
 In file included from
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:62:
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.h:67:31:
 error: openssl/pq_compat.h: No such file or directory
 In file included from
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:62:
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.h:73:
 error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'PQ_64BIT'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.h:80:
 error: expected ')' before 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.h:89:
 error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before
 'PQ_64BIT'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:71:
 error: expected ')' before 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: In
 function 'pitem_free':
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:90:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: In
 function 'pqueue_insert':
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:125:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:127:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:127:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:129:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:134:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:139:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:139:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:143:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:144:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: In
 function 'pqueue_pop':
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:161:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: At top level:
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:167:
 error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before
 'PQ_64BIT'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: In
 function 'pqueue_find':
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:175:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:176:
 error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
 

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Re: amd64 build of HEAD from 02/24 6:30pm CST broke...

2011-02-25 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 02:00:48AM -0600, Ron McDowell wrote:

 Otto Moerbeek wrote:
  On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 01:54:49AM -0600, Ron McDowell wrote:
 

  Otto Moerbeek wrote:
  
  On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 08:28:42AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
 

  On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:55:34AM -0600, Ron McDowell wrote:
 
  
  Nick Holland wrote:

  On 02/24/11 20:15, Ron McDowell wrote:
  
  System installed from a 4.8-amd64 CD today, then
  cvs-update to HEAD less than an hour ago...

  No, your process is broke.
  Please read FAQ5.
  The part you definitely violated is 5.3.2
 
  Nick.
  
  Thanks.  Okay, I threw away that install [literally...it was a
  VMware image so deleted it and created a new one] and reloaded

  from the 4.9 amd64 snapshot install.iso:
  
  # uname -a
  OpenBSD currobsd.volente.us 4.9 GENERIC#470 amd64
 
  and did a clean checkout with:
  cvs -d anon...@anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs checkout -rHEAD -P src
 
  and once again...

  Different process error, so different build error.
  
  Oops, it's the same errror, confused another build error report.
  Anyway, Look at the error message. You are missing a file. Did you
  install all sets?

  All but bsd.mp  --rcm
  
 
  OK, then it looks like you are mixing versions.

 
 That's why I started with an empty /usr/src and reloaded the OS from a 
 4.9 CD image.

OK, specify EXACTLY the steps you did including the commands.


   -Otto
 
  
  cc -O2 -pipe -g -DL_ENDIAN -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H
  -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_ERR -DNO_WINDOWS_BRAINDEATH
  -DOPENSSL_NO_IDEA -DOPENSSL_NO_RC5 -DOPENSSL_NO_KRB5
  -DOPENSSL_NO_MDC2 -DOPENSSL_NO_GOST -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_4758_CCA
  -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_AEP -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_ATALLA
  -DOPENSSL_NO_CAPIENG -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_CSWIFT
  -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_NCIPHER -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_NURON
  -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_PADLOCK -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_SUREWARE
  -DOPENSSL_NO_HW_UBSEC -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src
  -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto
  -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/asn1
  -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/evp
  -I/usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/obj -DAES_ASM -DMD5_ASM
  -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DOPENSSL_CPUID_OBJ
  -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2   -c
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c -o
  pqueue.o
  In file included from
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:62:
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.h:67:31:
  error: openssl/pq_compat.h: No such file or directory
  In file included from
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:62:
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.h:73:
  error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'PQ_64BIT'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.h:80:
  error: expected ')' before 'priority'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.h:89:
  error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before
  'PQ_64BIT'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:71:
  error: expected ')' before 'priority'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: In
  function 'pitem_free':
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:90:
  error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: In
  function 'pqueue_insert':
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:125:
  error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:127:
  error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:127:
  error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:129:
  error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:134:
  error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:139:
  error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:139:
  error: 'pitem' has no member named 'priority'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:143:
  error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:144:
  error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: In
  function 'pqueue_pop':
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:161:
  error: 'pitem' has no member named 'next'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: At top level:
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c:167:
  error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before
  'PQ_64BIT'
  /usr/src/lib/libssl/crypto/../src/crypto/pqueue/pqueue.c: In
  function 'pqueue_find':
  

Re: network bandwith with em(4)

2011-02-25 Thread Gabriel Linder

On 02/24/11 19:28, RLW wrote:

W dniu 2011-02-24 12:11, Patrick Lamaiziere pisze:

Le Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:09:18 +0100,
Manuel Guesdonml+openbsd.m...@oxymium.net  a icrit :



| Did you try to increase the number of descriptor?
| #define EM_MAX_TXD 256
| #define EM_MAX_RXD 256
|
| I've tried up to 2048 (and with MAX_INTS_PER_SEC = 16000) but it
looks | worth.


Thank you ! I'll investigate this !


As I said it is worth here. The load is increaded and I lose around 50
Mbits of bandwith. I was curious if you've made some tests on this.




ok, so the conclusion might be, that if one want to have transfers 
bigger than 300mbit/s on em(4), one should tuning the em(4) driver 
source code?


I have firewalls with more than 300Mbit/s and standard GENERIC.MP.



Re: network bandwith with em(4)

2011-02-25 Thread Claer
On Thu, Feb 24 2011 at 28:19, RLW wrote:

[...]
 
 ok, so the conclusion might be, that if one want to have transfers
 bigger than 300mbit/s on em(4), one should tuning the em(4) driver
 source code?
False

Here are the tests I've done with a packet generator.
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=129534605406967w=2

Claer



Re: uaudio

2011-02-25 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 06:49:20PM +0100, Remco wrote:
 
 I believe this thread is still fairly accurate:
 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=128075138405615w=2
 
 Especially 24-bit processing by aucat seems experimental at this time:
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/aucat/aparams.h?rev=1.11
 

FWIW, I use this daily on i386 since few months, now I consider it as
stable.

-- Alexandre



Re: pf rdr-to outgoing to local port issues

2011-02-25 Thread Henning Brauer
* william dunand william.dun...@gmail.com [2011-02-25 05:26]:
  pass out log(matches) quick inet proto tcp from any to 89.176.141.250 port 
  = www rdr-to 127.0.0.1 port 8080
 I think rdr-to is meant to be use on inbound rules.

we allow rdr-to outbound too now. it has caveats, and - surprise! -
they are described in the manpage.
this example hits a caveat.

-- 
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Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services
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Re: amd64 build of HEAD from 02/24 6:30pm CST broke...

2011-02-25 Thread Philip Guenther
WARNING: the following post involves an old fart jumping up and down
and screaming, mostly at shitty documentation.


On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Ron McDowell r...@fuzzwad.org wrote:
 Otto Moerbeek wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 08:28:42AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:55:34AM -0600, Ron McDowell wrote:
 Nick Holland wrote:
 On 02/24/11 20:15, Ron McDowell wrote:
 System installed from a 4.8-amd64 CD today, then cvs-update to HEAD less
 than an hour ago...

I'm sorry to say, but as soon as I read update to HEAD I recognized
the problem.  Namely, you have been mislead by cvs:

HEAD DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT DOES.

The pseudo-tag HEAD means the most recent version ON THE CURRENT
STICKY BRANCH, IF ANY.


So, you do
   cvs update -rOPENBSD_4_8

That sets the sticky tag for your current directory and below to
OPENBSD_4_8.  So, you then do
cvs update -r HEAD

Congrats!  You just updated to the tip of the OPENBSD_4_8 branch!
***NOT*** the tip of the trunk!

If you have an existing checkout and it has a sticky revision tag, the
*ONLY* ways to get it to the tip of the trunk are to either
a) use the -A option, or
b) remove the checkout and check it out again.


I've been using cvs for 17 years and, IMNSHO, the *ONLY* cvs
subcommand you should use the pseudo-tag HEAD with is diff.

IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, DON'T USE IT.

Also, consider going back and yelling at the people who taught you to
use -rHEAD with 'update', because they idiots.


 and did a clean checkout with:
 cvs -d anon...@anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs checkout -rHEAD -P src

Bad news number two: running cvs checkout in an existing cvs
checkout is the same as using cvs update -d.  At least that trap is
documented in the manpage:

   checkout [options] modules...
 Requires: repository.
 Changes: working directory.
 Synonyms: co, get
...
 Running `cvs checkout' on a directory that was already built
 by a prior checkout is also permitted, and has the same
 effect as specifying the -d option to the update command
 described below.


Philip Guenther



Alternatives to PF pflow for people running BGP ?

2011-02-25 Thread gb10hkzo-nanog
Hi,

Please forgive me if this is a newbie question that's obvious to those
more 
low-level technically inclined than myself.

Is there a reason why the
ability to ue pflow has not been implemented in 
scenarios where no state is
in use.

Due to running BGP, using states on the network edge is not a viable
option for 
me.  However I would like to be able to do traffic analysis using
pflow data.

What are others who are running BGP using for traffic analysis ?
Thanks !



Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-25 Thread Denny White
 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:11:22AM +0100, Jan Stary spoke thusly:
 On Feb 09 17:56:59, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
  text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -stdin -force_html -dump ; copiousoutput
 
 On Feb 09 10:59:54, Marco Peereboom wrote:
  text/html; /usr/local/bin/links -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; description=HTML 
  Text; na metemplate=%s.html
 
 On Feb 09 23:12:27, Igor Zinovik wrote:
  text/html   ; lynx -force_html -assume_charset=koi8-r 
  -assume_unrec_charset=utf8 -dump %s ; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html
 
 
 I have been using (variations of) these for years in my ~/.mailcap,
 which made mutt(1) launch lynx(1) on the html attachments. Since
 I upgraded to 
 
 OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC) #448: Fri Oct 22 09:43:05 MDT 2010
 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
 
 with mutt-1.5.21p0, it no longer works.
 (Should I take this to ports?)
 
 Trying to view a HTML attachment from the attachment menu
 results in the attachment being displayed by mutt's internal
 viewer. I stripped my ~/.mailcap to the minimum suggested by
 http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-5.html#ss5.3
 
   text/html; lynx %s ; nametemplate=%s.html
 
 and even that does not work. It seems like my ~/.mailcap is ignored.
 (Copying to /etc/mailcap doesn't seem to make any difference.)
 
 Does anyone have a hint of what could be causing this?
 
   Thank you for your time.
 
   Jan

Possibly completely offbase here. Can't see your .muttrc so don't know
if you have the following in it or not:

set mailcap_path=~/.mailcap

or whatever the path is to the .mailcap you want to use. Possibly the
.mailcap entry is commented out in your .muttrc file. Pretty sure it
is commented out by default in the sample.mailcap file.


Denny White


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Re: network bandwith with em(4)

2011-02-25 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:41:20 +0900,
Ryan McBride mcbr...@openbsd.org a icrit :

 On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 06:07:16PM +0100, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote:
  I log the congestion counter (each 10s) and there are at max 3 or 4
  congestions per day. I don't think the bottleneck is pf.
 
 The congestion counter doesn't directly mean you have a bottleneck in
 PF; it's triggered by the IP input queue being full, and could
 indicate a bottleneck in other places as well, which PF tries to help
 out with by dropping packets earlier.
 
 
   Interface errors?
  
  Quite a lot.
 
 The output of `systat mbufs` is worth looking at, in particular the
 figure for LIVELOCKS, and the LWM/CWM figures for the interface(s) in
 question. 
 
 If the livelocks value is very high, and the LWM/CWM numbers are very
 small, it is likely that the MCLGETI interface is protecting your
 system from being completly flattened by forcing the em card to drop
 packets (supported by your statement that the error rate is high). If
 it's bad enough MCLGETI will be so effective that the pf congestion
 counter will not get increment.

systat mbufs:
IFACELIVELOCKS SIZE ALIVE LWM HWM CWM
System 256  375   149
2k  240   1125

em0  17722k  80   4   256 80
em1112k   5   4   256  5
em2   2932k 110   4   256 110
em3
em4182k  11   4   256  11
em5102k  12   4   256  12
em6142k   5   4   256   5
bnx032k   4   2   510   4
bnx112k   4   2   510   4
bnx312k   2   2   510   2 
 
 
 You mentioned the following in your initial email:
 
  #define MAX_INTS_PER_SEC8000
 
  Do you think I can increase this value? The interrupt rate of the
  machine is at max ~60% (top).
 
 Increasing this value will likely hurt you. 60% interrupt rate sounds
 about right to me for a firewall system that is running at full tilt;
 100% interrupt is very bad, if your system spends all cycles servicing
 interrupts it will not do very much of anything useful.
 
 
 dmesg:
  em0 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000 QP (82571EB) rev
  0x06: apic 1 int 13 (irq 14), address 00:15:17:ed:98:9d
 
  em4 at pci9 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000 QP (82575GB) rev 0x02:
  apic 1 int 23 (irq 11), address 00:1b:21:38:e0:80
 
 How about a _full_ dmesg, so someone can take a wild guess at what
 your machine is capable of?
 
 -Ryan
 



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Re: network bandwith with em(4)

2011-02-25 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:51:32 +0100,
Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org a icrit :

(ooops, push the wrong button)

  How about a _full_ dmesg, so someone can take a wild guess at what
  your machine is capable of?

full dmesg : http://user.lamaiziere.net/patrick/dmesg-open48.txt

The box is a Dell R610 server.

Thanks, regards.



Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-25 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 10:57:26, Joachim Schipper wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:11:22AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
  On Feb 09 17:56:59, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
   text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -stdin -force_html -dump ; copiousoutput
  
  On Feb 09 10:59:54, Marco Peereboom wrote:
   text/html; /usr/local/bin/links -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; 
   description=HTML Text; na metemplate=%s.html
  
  On Feb 09 23:12:27, Igor Zinovik wrote:
   text/html ; lynx -force_html -assume_charset=koi8-r 
   -assume_unrec_charset=utf8 -dump %s ; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html
 
  I have been using (variations of) these for years in my ~/.mailcap,
  which made mutt(1) launch lynx(1) on the html attachments. Since
  I upgraded to 
  
  OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC) #448: Fri Oct 22 09:43:05 MDT 2010
  dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
  
  with mutt-1.5.21p0, it no longer works.
  (Should I take this to ports?)
  
  Trying to view a HTML attachment from the attachment menu
  results in the attachment being displayed by mutt's internal
  viewer. I stripped my ~/.mailcap to the minimum suggested by
  http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-5.html#ss5.3
  
  text/html; lynx %s ; nametemplate=%s.html
  
  and even that does not work. It seems like my ~/.mailcap is ignored.
  (Copying to /etc/mailcap doesn't seem to make any difference.)
  
  Does anyone have a hint of what could be causing this?
 
 text/html is usually in Mutt's auto_view list; auto_view stuff is
 automatically piped through any viewer with copiousoutput set,

Yes, but that's not the issue here. I don't want the html attachments to
be autoviewed; in fact, I have 'set implicit_autoview=no' in ~/.muttrc

 whereas non-copiousoutput entries are only used if you explicitly open it
 ('v' - select item - 'm').

This is what I want; and in fact, it does work, when I explicitly open
them with 'v' - select  - 'm'; until now,, I have been explicitly
opening the attachments I wanted to view with 'v' - select - Enter.
That's what stooped working; opening them with 'm' runs the correct
(~/.mailcap) lynx command over them.

Thank you!

Jan



Re: uaudio

2011-02-25 Thread Jan Stary
  I am currently using an M-Audio MobilePre (as kindly suggested
  by Alexander Ratchov some months ago). It works fine and the
  sound is very good.
  
  Now I consider upgrading to the new version of MobilePre
  http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MobilePre.html
  which can do 24bit@96kHz (the one I have now does 16bit).
  
  I wonder what is the current status of 24bit support in uaudio,
  or the audio subsystem in general.
  
  I vaguely remeber the E-mu USB family being mentioned a while ago.
 www.emu.com/products/product.asp?category=610subcategory=611product=17511
 www.emu.com/products/product.asp?category=610subcategory=611product=15186
 www.emu.com/products/product.asp?category=610subcategory=611product=20347
  
  Is anyone using those successfuly? Jacob?

 I believe this thread is still fairly accurate:
 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=128075138405615w=2
 
 Especially 24-bit processing by aucat seems experimental at this time:
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/aucat/aparams.h?rev=1.11

On Feb 25 09:30:37, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
 FWIW, I use this daily on i386 since few months,
 now I consider it as stable.

That's enough for me to try it too, thanks.

On Feb 24 18:53:28, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
 AFAIK, jakemsr comitted 24-bit uaudio bits, but I don't know how class
 compliant the Mobilpre is. Did you get any feedback about it?

No. I was hoping for an explicit confirmation, but I guess
I just need to give the new mobilepre a try.

Jan



Re: Alternatives to PF pflow for people running BGP ?

2011-02-25 Thread Henning Brauer
* gb10hkzo-na...@yahoo.co.uk gb10hkzo-na...@yahoo.co.uk [2011-02-25 13:09]:
 Is there a reason why the
 ability to ue pflow has not been implemented in 
 scenarios where no state is
 in use.

yes.
no state is stupid.
and pflow basically exports pf states/

 Due to running BGP, using states on the network edge is not a viable
 option for me. 

I don't believe a word.

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Re: network bandwith with em(4)

2011-02-25 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:51:32 +0100,
Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org a icrit :

 systat mbufs:
 IFACELIVELOCKS SIZE ALIVE LWM HWM CWM

What does these counters mean?

Thanks.



Re: Alternatives to PF pflow for people running BGP ?

2011-02-25 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 03:05:34PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
 * gb10hkzo-na...@yahoo.co.uk gb10hkzo-na...@yahoo.co.uk [2011-02-25 13:09]:
  Is there a reason why the
  ability to ue pflow has not been implemented in 
  scenarios where no state is
  in use.
 
 yes.
 no state is stupid.
 and pflow basically exports pf states/
 
  Due to running BGP, using states on the network edge is not a viable
  option for me. 
 
 I don't believe a word.
 

If you have more then one edge then stateful filtering will not work since
sessions may exit router 1 but enter on router 2 or 3 (and you will not
get happy with using pfsync in such a case).
So yes, I can see that you can't use pf(4) full pfstates on the edge.
I guess sloppy states may be an option...

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Re: network bandwith with em(4)

2011-02-25 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:09:32 +0100,
Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org a icrit :

 (4.8/amd64)
 
 Hello,
 
 I'm using two ethernet cards Intel 1000/PRO quad ports (gigabit) on a
 firewall (one fiber and one copper).
 
 The problem is that we don't get more than ~320 Mbits/s of bandwith
 beetween the internal networks and internet (gigabit).
 
 As far I can see, on load there is a number of Ierr on the interface
 connected to Internet (between 1% to 5%).
 
 Also the interrupt rate on this card is around ~7500 (using systat).
 In the em(4) driver, there is a limitation of the interrupt rate at
 8000/s.

...

Well, I've made some tests and increasing the number of interrupts or
the number of RX descriptors does not help to reduce the Ierr count or
to increase the bandwith.

So I don't know where is the problem... 

Do you think the hardware used is not powerful enough ? (dmesg :
http://user.lamaiziere.net/patrick/dmesg-openbsd4.8.txt).

The box is a router/firewall, there are 6 interfaces on the box, one is
connected to internet (the most busy interface). One is connected to
the lan (very busy too). The others are far less busy.

To give an idea, this box replaces an old Cisco 7204 which hangs at 200
Mbits, no more.

I would be happy to know which kind of hardware you are using to build
a gigabit router with good performance?

Thanks to all. regards.



Re: Alternatives to PF pflow for people running BGP ?

2011-02-25 Thread a b
Hello Henning,

 no state is stupid.  I don't believe a word.

Better talk
to your friend Claudio Jeker then
Claudio Jeker
Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:01:26
-0800
I generally do not filter on core routers because of the asymetric
routing.

Or Stuart Henderson
Stuart Henderson
Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:24:27
-0800
you can't reliably use stateful pf rules unless you see both sides of
the 
connection.



Re: network bandwith with em(4)

2011-02-25 Thread Ryan McBride
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 02:05:30PM +0100, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote:
 Le Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:51:32 +0100,
 Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org a icrit :
 
 (ooops, push the wrong button)
 
   How about a _full_ dmesg, so someone can take a wild guess at what
   your machine is capable of?
 
 full dmesg : http://user.lamaiziere.net/patrick/dmesg-open48.txt
 
 The box is a Dell R610 server.

This box should be able to fill a gigabit of regular TCP traffic (1500
MTU) without any problem. Double-check your testing procedures.

I have some additional comments/questions though:

1) you probably don't want to run bsd.mp on a firewall, it'll hurt you
more than it helps, unless you have significant CPU-bound userland stuff
going on, for example antivirus scanning of email.

2) You may get better performance running i386.

3) Besides the the em driver changes you've mentioned, is the source
code you're building the kernel clean OPENBSD_4_8 -stable, or something
else (4.8-current from after the 4.8 release, for example)



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Re: Alternatives to PF pflow for people running BGP ?

2011-02-25 Thread Henning Brauer
* Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com [2011-02-25 15:56]:
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 03:05:34PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
  * gb10hkzo-na...@yahoo.co.uk gb10hkzo-na...@yahoo.co.uk [2011-02-25 
  13:09]:
   Is there a reason why the
   ability to ue pflow has not been implemented in 
   scenarios where no state is
   in use.
  
  yes.
  no state is stupid.
  and pflow basically exports pf states/
  
   Due to running BGP, using states on the network edge is not a viable
   option for me. 
  
  I don't believe a word.
  
 
 If you have more then one edge then stateful filtering will not work since
 sessions may exit router 1 but enter on router 2 or 3 (and you will not
 get happy with using pfsync in such a case).

tell news ;)

 So yes, I can see that you can't use pf(4) full pfstates on the edge.
 I guess sloppy states may be an option...

exactly, that's what sloppy states are for.

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Re: network bandwith with em(4)

2011-02-25 Thread Manuel Guesdon
Hi,

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:41:20 +0900
Ryan McBride mcbr...@openbsd.org wrote:
..
| The output of `systat mbufs` is worth looking at, in particular the
| figure for LIVELOCKS, and the LWM/CWM figures for the interface(s) in
| question. 
| 
| If the livelocks value is very high, and the LWM/CWM numbers are very
| small, 

Thnak you for your help, Ryan.


It seems I'm in this situation:
   5 usersLoad 0.17 0.15 0.10  (1-48 of 58)Fri Feb 25 20:27:44
2011

IFACE LIVELOCKS  SIZE ALIVE   LWM   HWM   CWM
System256 820505446
   2k   2571252
lo0
em0  342k 4 4   256 4
em1 2572k 4 4   256 4
em2  3383822k 7 4   256 7
em382582k 4 4   256 4
em4   226352k48 4   25648
em534702k 6 4   256 6
em6  4582412k28 4   25628
em7   82k 4 4   256 4
em8   332322k50 4   25650
em9   468782k 4 4   256 4

systat -s 2 vmstat:
   5 usersLoad 0.22 0.17 0.10  Fri Feb 25 20:28:18
2011

memory totals (in KB)PAGING   SWAPPING Interrupts
   real   virtual free   in  out   in  out25589 total
Active   741204741204  1761104   ops   1600 clock
All 1278264   1278264  1761104   pages   11 ipi
  1 em0
Proc:r  d  s  wCsw   Trp   Sys   Int   Sof  Flt   forks em1
  1532 5   117 2286799   33   fkppw2691 em2
  fksvm em3
   3.2%Int   0.1%Sys   0.0%Usr   0.0%Nic  96.8%Idle   pwait6778 em4
|||||||||||   relck 382 em5
||rlkok7328 em6
  noram em7
Namei Sys-cacheProc-cacheNo-cache ndcpy6724 em8
Calls hits%hits %miss   % fltcp  74 em9
3 zfod  uhci1
  cow   ehci0
Disks   wd0   cd0   sd0 25328 fmin  ehci1
seeks   33770 ftarg
pciide0 xfers
itarg com0 speed 241
wired com1 sec
pdfre pckbc0 pdscn
  pzidle
   44 kmapent


  81542 IPKTS
  78860 OPKTS


(it's on a device with MAX_INTS_PER_SEC=8000)


|it is likely that the MCLGETI interface is protecting your system
| from being completly flattened by forcing the em card to drop packets
| (supported by your statement that the error rate is high). 
| 
| How about a _full_ dmesg, so someone can take a wild guess at what
| your machine is capable of?

http://www.oxymium.net/tmp/core3-dmesg

This device is not overloaded but it drop packets :-(

Manuel 



Re: amd64 build of HEAD from 02/24 6:30pm CST broke...

2011-02-25 Thread Ron McDowell

Philip Guenther wrote:


I'm sorry to say, but as soon as I read update to HEAD I recognized
the problem. Namely, you have been mislead by cvs:



You're right.  I now have a clean build.

cvs -d anon...@anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs checkout -rHEAD -P src

definitely !=

cvs -d anon...@anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs checkout -P src

and the latter did indeed work fine.


HEAD DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT DOES.

The pseudo-tag HEAD means the most recent version ON THE CURRENT
STICKY BRANCH, IF ANY.


So, you do
   cvs update -rOPENBSD_4_8
  


No, sorry, I started with an empty /usr/src.  Given that, what would 
checkout -rHEAD [as shown above] do?  I'm trying to understand, wrap my 
head around, if you will, this concept... Thanks.




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