Re: AMD64 packages

2014-12-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
If you don't understand that snapshots get built, that libraries crank, that there are PEOPLE building this, that the data takes time to get to the mirrors, and that this is a non-static situation, that small catch-up syncronization errors are made, that they get fixed by real people,

Re: AMD64 packages

2014-12-11 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-12-11, Stan Gammons sg063...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. The way I normally update is by downloading the install5x.iso, make the cd and boot from it, do an upgrade, reboot, do a sysmerge, then do pkg_add -u. After all the failures because of the library mismatch, kde4 will no longer start

Packet Tagging (Policy Filtering)

2014-12-11 Thread Indunil Jayasooriya
Hi misc, I have about 600 destinations to reach via wan1 and wan2.( 300 via wan1 and 300 via wan2 ) my /etc/mygate is *wan_gw1* Let's say *ip_list1 and * *ip_list2. **Let's assume /etc/ip_list1 and * */etc/ip_list2 have ip addresses in this format /etc/ip_list1* *(this consists of about

Re: AMD64 packages

2014-12-11 Thread Mihai Popescu
The conversation is very META. What is META?

Re: AMD64 packages

2014-12-11 Thread Janne Johansson
That it is a discussion about a discussion, not about any topic of its own. 2014-12-11 12:37 GMT+01:00 Mihai Popescu mih...@gmail.com: The conversation is very META. What is META? -- May the most significant bit of your life be positive.

Re: AMD64 packages

2014-12-11 Thread FRIGN
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:27:46 -0500 STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu wrote: You might want to subscribe to the ports-changes changes list, which will show you what's been changed. The source-changes list will show you all the other cvs commits. Look at http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html Btw, now

Re: AMD64 packages

2014-12-11 Thread Oliver Peter
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:59:55AM +0100, FRIGN wrote: Btw, now that the topic has come up. Is there a way to view the diffs quickly on a source- or port-change? Not official and not instantly updated: http://anoncvs.estpak.ee/cgi-bin/cgit/openbsd-ports/log/ -- Oliver PETER

Re: AMD64 packages

2014-12-11 Thread Björn Ketelaars
you could try http://anoncvs.estpak.ee/cgi-bin/cgit/openbsd-ports/log/ On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:59 AM, FRIGN d...@frign.de wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:27:46 -0500 STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu wrote: You might want to subscribe to the ports-changes changes list, which will show you

Re: recommended input methods?

2014-12-11 Thread Joel Rees
Followup: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: What're the recommended input methods for Japanese and Spanish? I have got Japanese input running and useable, by installing the packages ja-fonts-gnu ja-sazanami-ttf ja-mplus-ttf ibus-anthy with pkg_add . I'm not

Re: recommended input methods?

2014-12-11 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: Followup: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: What're the recommended input methods for Japanese and Spanish? I have got Japanese input running and useable, by installing the packages

Re: recommended input methods?

2014-12-11 Thread Kaspars Bankovskis
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:07:35PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: I have got Japanese input running and useable, by installing the packages ja-fonts-gnu ja-sazanami-ttf ja-mplus-ttf ibus-anthy with pkg_add . I'm not comfortable that this is the most optimal way to do it, but it allows me to

DNS over IPSec weirdness

2014-12-11 Thread Zé Loff
TL,DR: Queries to DNS server over IPSec made using host or dig work OK, requests made by e.g. ping exit the enc0 interface but don't show up on enc0 on the other end. Hi all I'm puzzled by some weird stuff happening with DNS queries over IPSec. I have a fully working tunnel over a roaming

Re: AMD64 packages

2014-12-11 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-12-11, Oliver Peter li...@peter.de.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:59:55AM +0100, FRIGN wrote: Btw, now that the topic has come up. Is there a way to view the diffs quickly on a source- or port-change? Not official and not instantly updated:

Re: AMD64 packages

2014-12-11 Thread STeve Andre'
On 12/11/14 05:59, FRIGN wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:27:46 -0500 STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu wrote: You might want to subscribe to the ports-changes changes list, which will show you what's been changed. The source-changes list will show you all the other cvs commits. Look at

pfqstat - records pf queue bytes in CSV format

2014-12-11 Thread Daniel Melameth
One of my favorite ports is pfstat. I've used it religiously for years with minor firewalls for bandwidth and queue graphs. When ALTQ was retired, pfstat could no longer graph my queues and this is still the case today. The correct behavior here would be for me to roll up my college-level C

OpenBSD 5.6 - amd64 on Lenovo G480

2014-12-11 Thread Leonardo Santagostini
Hello @misc, This mail is regarding about issues that im facing after doing a fresh install of 5.6 RELEASE and snapshot on my latptop The point is that after installing sucessfully i am trying to start X but screen goes black. The only way i have to go to console is pressing CTRL+ALT+F1 after

Music On Console (MOC)

2014-12-11 Thread Richard Toohey
Hi, guys. This might be more a question for ports@ but it is also a general do you use it question. I've been trying to help the MOC maintainer with testing changes on OpenBSD. He wants to use some newer POSIX features but it seems that if he does so, he'll have to leave OpenBSD behind. I

Re: Music On Console (MOC)

2014-12-11 Thread Brent Cook
I've used MOC quite a bit on OpenBSD, though just a local compile - nothing fancy like a port. It's probably the only non-base program I ever use on the Sparc 5. What specifically is missing? On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Richard Toohey richardtoo...@paradise.net.nz wrote: Hi, guys. This

Re: AMD64 packages

2014-12-11 Thread ian kremlin
whenever i grab a snapshot and get library version mismatches after a `pkg_add -u`, i've found the easiest way to get those objects is grab a fresh source tree and compile them manually. for example, libc: cd /usr/src/lib/libc edit 'shlib_version' to have the appropriate major/minor versions

Re: recommended input methods?

2014-12-11 Thread Bryan Linton
On 2014-12-11 22:46:48, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: Followup: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: What're the recommended input methods for Japanese and Spanish? I have

Re: Music On Console (MOC)

2014-12-11 Thread Luiz Roberto dos Santos
The maintainer has asked the same question on a MOC forum: I'll take the first option: 1. Stop using MOC I'm a user of MOC when using Linux, because it's simple to config, but I think the OpenBSD Project will be fine without MOC updates, and the users can switch to mpd.

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-11 Thread Riley Baird
On 07/12/14 23:37, Martin Schröder wrote: 2014-12-06 9:45 GMT+01:00 Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch: I have a few questions about OpenBSD's trademark policy. (I tried looking, but I couldn't find a document.) Is OpenBSD actually a registered trademark? The

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-11 Thread Riley Baird
On 07/12/14 23:42, Kaspars Bankovskis wrote: Your changes to the system will be very small, and most of the time you'll be just renaming 'openbsd' to something else, and syncing back changes from upstream. If you have time for that, lucky you. But there are more useful things to do, don't you

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-11 Thread Riley Baird
On 08/12/14 00:36, Bryan Steele wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 07:35:03PM +1100, Riley Baird wrote: I agree entirely. For this reason, I think it would be best to keep system internals (e.g. uname, includes, etc.) using the name OpenBSD with only the main user-visible parts changed to a new

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-11 Thread Martin Brandenburg
Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch wrote: On 07/12/14 23:42, Kaspars Bankovskis wrote: Your changes to the system will be very small, and most of the time you'll be just renaming 'openbsd' to something else, and syncing back changes from upstream. If you have

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-11 Thread Riley Baird
On 08/12/14 01:00, Luiz Roberto dos Santos wrote: At 7 Dec 2014 12:42:41 + (UTC) from Kaspars Bankovskis kasp...@bankovskis.net: there are more useful things to do, don't you think so? Agree. Riley, I think you don't get the point here. The firmware blob are *not* running on the system,

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-11 Thread Riley Baird
On 12/12/14 15:25, Martin Brandenburg wrote: Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch wrote: On 07/12/14 23:42, Kaspars Bankovskis wrote: Your changes to the system will be very small, and most of the time you'll be just renaming 'openbsd' to something else, and

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
On 12/12/14 15:25, Martin Brandenburg wrote: Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch wrote: On 07/12/14 23:42, Kaspars Bankovskis wrote: Your changes to the system will be very small, and most of the time you'll be just renaming 'openbsd' to something else, and

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-11 Thread Riley Baird
On 08/12/14 01:07, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: Riley Baird said: However, remember that if someone doesn't know much about OpenBSD, they will either: a) think that OpenBSD does not contain binary-only firmware due to the Blob-Busters marketing or b) not know where to look to remove it should

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-11 Thread Riley Baird
On 12/12/14 15:36, Theo de Raadt wrote: On 12/12/14 15:25, Martin Brandenburg wrote: Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch wrote: On 07/12/14 23:42, Kaspars Bankovskis wrote: Your changes to the system will be very small, and most of the time you'll be just renaming

problems compiling i386 from source (patching)

2014-12-11 Thread lists
I applied the newest unbound patch to several amd64 machines without trouble, and have had issues on several of my i386 boxes. The initial error was probably the same as below, but led me to believe I may have had some kind of kernel or system frankenbox behavior. I used cvs to pull all the

Re: problems compiling i386 from source (patching)

2014-12-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
I applied the newest unbound patch to several amd64 machines without trouble, and have had issues on several of my i386 boxes. You were running -stable: OpenBSD 5.6-stable (GENERIC.MP) #0: Thu Dec 11 19:34:10 UTC 2014 The initial error was probably the same as below, but led me to

Re: DNS over IPSec weirdness

2014-12-11 Thread R0me0 ***
Hey man, I'm not sure about what is happening, but pflog is your best friend ever ! http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/logging.html Try find out if a specific rule is blocking traffic in one of endpoints ( both ? ) Cheers, 2014-12-11 14:13 GMT-02:00 Zé Loff zel...@zeloff.org: TL,DR: Queries to

Re: problems compiling i386 from source (patching)

2014-12-11 Thread lists
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:05:46PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: I applied the newest unbound patch to several amd64 machines without trouble, and have had issues on several of my i386 boxes. You were running -stable: OpenBSD 5.6-stable (GENERIC.MP) #0: Thu Dec 11 19:34:10 UTC 2014

Re: OpenBSD 5.6 - amd64 on Lenovo G480

2014-12-11 Thread bodie
On 12.12.2014 02:50, Leonardo Santagostini wrote: Hello @misc, This mail is regarding about issues that im facing after doing a fresh install of 5.6 RELEASE and snapshot on my latptop The point is that after installing sucessfully i am trying to start X but screen goes black. The only way

Re: Music On Console (MOC)

2014-12-11 Thread bodie
On 12.12.2014 03:00, Richard Toohey wrote: Hi, guys. This might be more a question for ports@ but it is also a general do you use it question. I've been trying to help the MOC maintainer with testing changes on OpenBSD. He wants to use some newer POSIX features but it seems that if he does

Re: Music On Console (MOC)

2014-12-11 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 15:00, Richard Toohey wrote: (3) can help with the POSIX questions. The maintainer has asked the same question on a MOC forum: http://moc.daper.net/node/1369 I have no idea what posix features they want, so it's a tough question. unistd.h does say #define

Re: OpenBSD 5.6 - amd64 on Lenovo G480

2014-12-11 Thread Fred
On 12/12/14 01:50, Leonardo Santagostini wrote: Hello @misc, This mail is regarding about issues that im facing after doing a fresh install of 5.6 RELEASE and snapshot on my latptop The point is that after installing sucessfully i am trying to start X but screen goes black. The only way i have