Re: Random PID implementation and security

2015-05-27 Thread Fred
On 05/27/15 10:18, Simon wrote: Le 2015-05-26 16:25, Theo de Raadt a écrit : Le 2015-05-26 00:10, Miod Vallat a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: It is not the responsibility of the operating system to protect its users against software which assumes using the pid as a random source= =20 is a bright and

Re: simple maiserver fail (postfix dovecot)

2015-05-27 Thread Tuyosi Takesima
it is hard to understand even for me only to follow thread . so i write down at http://openbsd-akita.blogspot.jp/2015/05/wifi-router-run0-192.html if there are mistakes , please point them . --- regards

Re: Random PID implementation and security

2015-05-27 Thread Simon
Le 2015-05-26 16:25, Theo de Raadt a écrit : Le 2015-05-26 00:10, Miod Vallat a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: It is not the responsibility of the operating system to protect its users against software which assumes using the pid as a random source= =20 is a bright and wise idea. =20 Isn't this the

Re: Dual-NSD setup management

2015-05-27 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-05-26, Felipe Scarel fbsca...@gmail.com wrote: after reading some documentation on the NSD manpage and online, it seems there's no support for views as offered with BIND. I've gathered that the general suggestion is to run two separate instances (running on 127.0.0.1, for example), and

Re: Random PID implementation and security

2015-05-27 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Simon openbsd.li...@whitewinterwolf.com wrote: [...] Unless specific cases, I do not think that programmers assume that PID are especially sequential or not, but merely rely on the hypothesis that: - PID are unguessable, - PID will not be reused quickly.

Re: Random PID implementation and security

2015-05-27 Thread Janne Johansson
A 16 bit PID is suppsed to provide true safety? Please. Having PID's that are not easily predicable helps to reduce the attack surface. IMO that is a security measure, but YMMV. Random PIDs is that plastic part, not the padlock. -- May the most significant bit of your life be

Re: cvs fingerprint for anonvs.jp.openbsd.org

2015-05-27 Thread Lars Nooden
On Wed, 27 May 2015, Joel Rees wrote: Currently, when I connect to the server via the usual cvs command, it responds with an ssh256 fingerprint. For some reason, my brain is not helping me find a way to ask the server to give me md5 fingerprints. Is there a way? From what I've tried, the

installing stable failed

2015-05-27 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, stable built fine, but make install failed with : cc -Werror -Wall -Wimplicit-function-declaration -Wno-main -Wno-uninitialized -Wframe-larger-than=2047 -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mno-sse2 -mno-sse -mno-3dnow -mno-mmx -msoft-float -fno-omit-frame-pointer -fno-builtin-printf

Re: Random PID implementation and security

2015-05-27 Thread Kenneth Gober
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Simon openbsd.li...@whitewinterwolf.com wrote: So do you confirm that random PID is actually not a security measure? It is often presented as is, but it would not be the first time that some wrong rumors get widespread enough to become accepted as a truth by

Re: Random PID implementation and security

2015-05-27 Thread Simon
Le 2015-05-27 11:53, Fred a écrit : On 05/27/15 10:18, Simon wrote: Le 2015-05-26 16:25, Theo de Raadt a écrit : A 16 bit PID is suppsed to provide true safety? Please. The problem is people who believe that shoving a 16 bit value into a deterministic function gets them somewhere. So do

Re: Random PID implementation and security

2015-05-27 Thread Simon
Le 2015-05-27 14:01, Janne Johansson a écrit : A 16 bit PID is suppsed to provide true safety? Please. Having PID's that are not easily predicable helps to reduce the attack surface. IMO that is a security measure, but YMMV. Random PIDs is that plastic part, not the padlock. You mean

Re: Random PID implementation and security

2015-05-27 Thread Simon
Le 2015-05-27 14:29, Kenneth Gober a écrit : On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Simon openbsd.li...@whitewinterwolf.com wrote: So do you confirm that random PID is actually not a security measure? It is often presented as is, but it would not be the first time that some wrong rumors get

cvs fingerprint for anonvs.jp.openbsd.org

2015-05-27 Thread Joel Rees
The fingerprints shown for anoncvs.jp.openbsd.org at http://www.openbsd.org/anoncvs.html are md5. Currently, when I connect to the server via the usual cvs command, it responds with an ssh256 fingerprint. For some reason, my brain is not helping me find a way to ask the server to give me md5

Re: installing stable failed

2015-05-27 Thread Theo Buehler
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 03:08:53PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: cmp -s bsd /bsd || ln -f /bsd /obsd ln: /bsd: No such file or directory *** Error 1 in /usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC (Makefile:904 'install-kernel-gate5c.example.com.') I have rebuilt it *because* /bsd was deleted by

Re: installing stable failed

2015-05-27 Thread Pedro Tender
Just to be sure, do you have /bsd directory created? Since the error is: ln: /bsd: No such file or directory Since your report is only the make install error and the error is that the directory does not exist maybe you should start there before making other assumptions about cleverness. Or maybe

Re: Dual-NSD setup management

2015-05-27 Thread Bryan Irvine
Additionally to all this good advice, you can create multiple loopback interfaces if you did want to use divert-to. 'ifconfig create lo1' then you don't need to use weird ports to accomplish things. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 4:06 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2015-05-26,

Re: Dual-NSD setup management

2015-05-27 Thread Felipe Scarel
Thanks for the input Stuart and Bryan, I think the dual-authoritative setup might indeed be overkill. I'll look into unbound local-data options, hadn't considered that. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com wrote: Additionally to all this good advice, you can create

Re: Logjam Attack: is OpenIKED and OpenSMTPD vulnerable?

2015-05-27 Thread Mike Belopuhov
On 25 May 2015 at 14:33, Pablo Méndez Hernández pabl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Any statement for iked? iked implements IKEv2 which doesn't use SSL/TLS. So this attack doesn't directly apply to IKEv2. However we would accept MODP 1024 and better by default. Perhaps we should bump it to 2048

Re: Openbsd 5.7 and sendmail

2015-05-27 Thread Peter Fraser
Thanks I managed to miss noting that I should look at /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes/sendmail-* -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of John Merriam Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:20 PM To: Peter Fraser Cc: 'misc@openbsd.org'

Re: Random PID implementation and security

2015-05-27 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 02:34:43PM +0200, Simon wrote: Le 2015-05-27 11:53, Fred a écrit : On 05/27/15 10:18, Simon wrote: Le 2015-05-26 16:25, Theo de Raadt a écrit : A 16 bit PID is suppsed to provide true safety? Please. The problem is people who believe that shoving a 16 bit value

Re: Random PID implementation and security

2015-05-27 Thread Jihyun Yu
Sorry for interruption. I have sent the message by mistake, please ignore it. 2015년 5월 27일 (수) 23:17, yjh0...@gmail.com님이 작성: hi

Re: Random PID implementation and security

2015-05-27 Thread ludovic coues
2015-05-27 15:42 GMT+02:00 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Simon openbsd.li...@whitewinterwolf.com wrote: [...] Unless specific cases, I do not think that programmers assume that PID are especially sequential or not, but merely rely on the hypothesis

Re: Random PID implementation and security

2015-05-27 Thread yjh0502
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Re: HP LaserJet 1100 lpr printing?

2015-05-27 Thread Craig Skinner
On 2015-05-22 Fri 17:11 PM |, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 04:08:20PM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote: On 2015-05-22 Fri 17:01 PM |, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: What is the version of the cups package you are running? $ pkg_info -I cups cups-filters foomatic-db-engine

NATing out enc0 traffic

2015-05-27 Thread Justin Mayes
Greetings everyone I am playing with amazon virtual private clouds (VPC). I have set a few up. I have no issues connecting ipsec from openbsd - amazon VPC. All of these VPCs so far have their own internet connection going out from amazon that works fine.

Re: booting OpenBSD with grub

2015-05-27 Thread Gareth Nelson
You can also use kopenbsd to load an OpenBSD kernel directly in grub, I did just this to install OpenBSD from a previous Debian install (just downloaded bsd.rd, rebooted, used grub to boot bsd.rd) --- “Lanie, I’m going to print more printers. Lots more printers. One for everyone. That’s

Re: httpd authenticate option usage

2015-05-27 Thread Yegor Timoschenko
How does the httpd authenticate option work? from httpd.conf(5): [no] authenticate [realm] with htpasswd Authenticate a remote user for realm by checking the credentials against the user authentication file htpasswd. The file name is relative to the chroot and must be

Lenovo T450s status

2015-05-27 Thread Shaun Reiger
Hello Misc I'm looking at purchasing a Lenovo T450s as my main laptop, but I wanted to find out if anyone has hit any major roadblocks using obsd 5.7 with this model. I know this is a fairly new machine and support is always hit and miss, but any guidance on this machine would help. Biggest

Re: installing stable failed

2015-05-27 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Theo, On 05/27/15 15:37, Theo Buehler wrote: To fix your machine, either use the cp and mv commands as above or simply issuing # cp bsd /bsd would be enough since `/bsd' isn't in the way. The point is that make install didn't, because it expected a previous /bsd in the destination

Re: Lenovo T450s status

2015-05-27 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Shaun, On 05/28/15 01:48, Shaun Reiger wrote: Hello Misc I'm looking at purchasing a Lenovo T450s as my main laptop, but I wanted to find out if anyone has hit any major roadblocks using obsd 5.7 with this model. I know this is a fairly new machine and support is always hit and miss, but

Re: booting OpenBSD with grub

2015-05-27 Thread Josh Grosse
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 07:48:49AM -0400, cobalt wrote: any idea on the the proper way to get grub to boot openbsd: set root=(hd1,4) is what i have, but i am missing something and i do not know what. any thoughts would help. regards. gilles I have an old netbook with sysutils/grub

httpd authenticate option usage

2015-05-27 Thread Nick Holland
ok, I'm probably being overly dense here, but ... How does the httpd authenticate option work? from httpd.conf(5): [no] authenticate [realm] with htpasswd Authenticate a remote user for realm by checking the credentials against the user authentication file htpasswd. The file name

Re: httpd authenticate option usage

2015-05-27 Thread Nick Holland
On 05/27/15 22:42, Yegor Timoschenko wrote: How does the httpd authenticate option work? from httpd.conf(5): [no] authenticate [realm] with htpasswd Authenticate a remote user for realm by checking the credentials against the user authentication file htpasswd. The file name is

booting OpenBSD with grub

2015-05-27 Thread cobalt
any idea on the the proper way to get grub to boot openbsd: set root=(hd1,4) is what i have, but i am missing something and i do not know what. any thoughts would help. regards. gilles

Re: building mp userland?

2015-05-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
I built the userland with a GENERIC kernel. Then I looked at the dmesg and realized I had wanted the GENERIC.MP kernel. I'm going to re-build userland anyway, but how different is the resulting userland? Not a single bit different.

building mp userland?

2015-05-27 Thread Joel Rees
I built the userland with a GENERIC kernel. Then I looked at the dmesg and realized I had wanted the GENERIC.MP kernel. I'm going to re-build userland anyway, but how different is the resulting userland? Joel Rees Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens. All is a stream of