Re: Tunefs(8)

2020-08-10 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Ha ha! Original Message On 10 Aug 2020, 23:39, Todd C. Miller < todd.mil...@sudo.ws> wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 16:05:12 -, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > Omit the last line of the manual, because there is no need for it. It's a play on the old joke: What's the difference between

Re: X11 VESA Driver Config Question

2020-08-10 Thread Chris Bennett
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 10:02:24PM -0400, Jon Fineman wrote: > I have an Acer Aspire A315 laptop that freezes every once in a while. I > think it is GPU related, but have not been able to get any logs. In > addition a while ago (roughly when 6.7 came out) I tried to upgrade > from 6.6 to 6.7 and

Re: explicit_bzero vs. alternatives

2020-08-10 Thread Theo de Raadt
Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > Theo de Raadt wrote in > <61139.1597087...@cvs.openbsd.org>: > |Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > |> Am 10.08.20 um 17:00 schrieb Theo de Raadt: > |>> Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > |>> > |>>> OpenBSD has the explicit_bzero function to reliably (i.e. even if not >

Re: explicit_bzero vs. alternatives

2020-08-10 Thread Theo de Raadt
Tim van der Molen wrote: > Philipp Klaus Krause (2020-08-10 21:00 +0200): > > Am 10.08.20 um 17:00 schrieb Theo de Raadt: > > > Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > > > > > >> OpenBSD has the explicit_bzero function to reliably (i.e. even if not > > >> observable in the C abstract machine) overwrite

Re: Tunefs(8)

2020-08-10 Thread Theo de Raadt
Todd C. Miller wrote: > On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 16:05:12 -, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > > > Omit the last line of the manual, because there is no need for it. > > It's a play on the old joke: > > What's the difference between a piano and a fish? > You can tune a piano, but you can't

Re: Tunefs(8)

2020-08-10 Thread Todd C . Miller
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 16:05:12 -, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > Omit the last line of the manual, because there is no need for it. It's a play on the old joke: What's the difference between a piano and a fish? You can tune a piano, but you can't tuna fish! No one would dare remove the

Re: explicit_bzero vs. alternatives

2020-08-10 Thread Tim van der Molen
Philipp Klaus Krause (2020-08-10 21:00 +0200): > Am 10.08.20 um 17:00 schrieb Theo de Raadt: > > Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > > > >> OpenBSD has the explicit_bzero function to reliably (i.e. even if not > >> observable in the C abstract machine) overwrite memory with zeroes. > >> > >> WG14 is

Re: Tunefs(8)

2020-08-10 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 04:05:12PM +, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > Omit the last line of the manual, because there is no need for it. > there's always a need for humour! i think that sentence is an important part of the tunefs(8) man page (and no, i'm not being sarcastic). > Add the units used

Tunefs(8)

2020-08-10 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Omit the last line of the manual, because there is no need for it. Add the units used by the average file size, because of ambiguity. -g avgfilesize This specifies the expected average file size, expressed in bytes??? .

Re: explicit_bzero vs. alternatives

2020-08-10 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Our base tree has 641 calls to explicit_bzero, because previous > commitees fucked the C language and created hundreds of not thousands of > security vulnerabilities by leaving data on the stack. In application > software, both explicit_memset and explicit Sorry I didn't finish the last

Re: explicit_bzero vs. alternatives

2020-08-10 Thread Theo de Raadt
Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > Am 10.08.20 um 17:00 schrieb Theo de Raadt: > > Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > > > >> OpenBSD has the explicit_bzero function to reliably (i.e. even if not > >> observable in the C abstract machine) overwrite memory with zeroes. > >> > >> WG14 is currently

Re: explicit_bzero vs. alternatives

2020-08-10 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
Am 10.08.20 um 17:00 schrieb Theo de Raadt: > Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > >> OpenBSD has the explicit_bzero function to reliably (i.e. even if not >> observable in the C abstract machine) overwrite memory with zeroes. >> >> WG14 is currently considering adding similar functionality to C2X. >

Re: npppd failed enable pipex: Invalid argument

2020-08-10 Thread Marko Cupać
> > On 4 Aug 2020, at 17:04, Marko Cupać wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have recently upgraded (actually installed from scratch and copied > > config files) one of my firewalls from 6.6 to 6.7, and (sys)patched > > it to 017_dix. Everything works great except my npppd setup. It > > starts fine,

Re: explicit_bzero vs. alternatives

2020-08-10 Thread Theo de Raadt
Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > OpenBSD has the explicit_bzero function to reliably (i.e. even if not > observable in the C abstract machine) overwrite memory with zeroes. > > WG14 is currently considering adding similar functionality to C2X. Then perhaps in the interests of the public they

Re: No xenocara for ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT

2020-08-10 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 10:01:43AM -0600, Andy Bradford wrote: > Thus said Jonathan Gray on Sun, 09 Aug 2020 12:39:36 +1000: > > > When this came up previously running i386 resulted in being able to > > read the atombios. Can you confirm that is the case here? > > Yes, this is the case. I

explicit_bzero vs. alternatives

2020-08-10 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
OpenBSD has the explicit_bzero function to reliably (i.e. even if not observable in the C abstract machine) overwrite memory with zeroes. WG14 is currently considering adding similar functionality to C2X. Considered options include: * A function like explicit_bzero or memset_explicit, that

Re: Confused by adjfreq(2)

2020-08-10 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 09:46:00PM +0100, Julian Smith wrote: > I've just used adjfreq() directly to correct my hardware clock, which > was running an hour ahead of UTC (due to my hardware previously running > Windows). > > But i've struggled to understand the adjfreq(2) man page, so ended up >