Re: Switching from trunk(4) to aggr(4)

2020-12-15 Thread David Gwynne
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:43:12PM -0500, Daniel Jakots wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 14:30:16 +1000, David Gwynne 
> wrote:
> 
> > Can you try tcpdump -p -veni em0 -D in and see if any LACP packets
> > appear to come in on the port? If not, can you remove the -p and see
> > if em0 starts to work?
> > 
> > There are two main differences between how aggr(4) and trunk(4)
> > works. The first you've already found, which is that trunk(4) uses
> > the address from one of the ports it's given, while aggr(4) generates
> > one when it's created. The second difference is that trunk(4) makes
> > member ports promisc, while aggr(4) tries to be a lot more precise
> > and takes care to program the ports properly. This means that in your
> > environment em(4) has to support changing it's MAC address to the one
> > provided by aggr(4), and it has to support joining multicast groups
> > properly, including the one that LACP packets are sent to.
> > 
> > tcpdump with -p means that it won't make the interface promiscuous.
> > If you don't see LACP packets come in while the port is promisc, that
> > means the multicast filter isn't working properly. It should start
> > working if you're running tcpdump without -p on the em(4) ports, or
> > on aggr(4) itself.
> 
> 
> Thanks for your reply!
> 
> Here's what I did (spoiler alert, I couldn't get aggr0 to work):
> 
> I switched back the hostname files, and rebooted.
> 
> During boot:
> 
> starting network
> aggr0 em0 trunkport: creating port
> aggr0 em0 mux: BEGIN (BEGIN) -> DETACHED
> aggr0 em0 rxm: BEGIN (BEGIN) -> INITIALIZE
> aggr0 em0 rxm: INITIALIZE (UCT) -> PORT_DISABLED
> aggr0 em1 trunkport: creating port
> aggr0 em1 mux: BEGIN (BEGIN) -> DETACHED
> aggr0 em1 rxm: BEGIN (BEGIN) -> INITIALIZE
> aggr0 em1 rxm: INITIALIZE (UCT) -> PORT_DISABLED
> aggr0 em2 trunkport: creating port
> aggr0 em2 mux: BEGIN (BEGIN) -> DETACHED
> aggr0 em2 rxm: BEGIN (BEGIN) -> INITIALIZE
> aggr0 em2 rxm: INITIALIZE (UCT) -> PORT_DISABLED
> vlan10: no linkaggr0 em0 rxm: PORT_DISABLED (port_enabled) ->
> EXPIRED .aggr0 em2 rxm: PORT_DISABLED (port_enabled) -> EXPIRED
> aggr0 em1 rxm: PORT_DISABLED (port_enabled) -> EXPIRED
> ..aggr0 em0 rxm: EXPIRED (current_while_timer expired) -> DEFAULTED
> aggr0 em2 rxm: EXPIRED (current_while_timer expired) -> DEFAULTED
> aggr0 em1 rxm: EXPIRED (current_while_timer expired) -> DEFAULTED
> ... sleeping
> 
> root@pancake:~# tcpdump -p -veni em0 -D in
> tcpdump: listening on em0, link-type EN10MB
> 18:04:03.996369 80:56:f2:b7:9c:09 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 8100 60: 802.1Q vid 70 
> pri 1 arp who-has 10.70.70.254 tell 10.70.70.101
> 18:04:04.016123 00:17:10:8e:44:a5 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 8100 64: 802.1Q vid 10 
> pri 1 arp who-has 24.48.69.20 tell 24.48.69.1
> 18:04:04.034874 00:17:10:8e:44:a5 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 8100 64: 802.1Q vid 10 
> pri 1 arp who-has 24.48.69.109 tell 24.48.69.1
> 
> (vlan10 is my uplink to my isp's modem), I didn't have anything but
> those arp who-has.
> 
> root@pancake:~# ifconfig aggr0 -> still no carrier
> 
> root@pancake:~# tcpdump -veni em0 -D in
> tcpdump: listening on em0, link-type EN10MB
> 18:05:11.247455 52:54:00:06:aa:01 00:0d:b9:43:9f:fc 8100 1423: 802.1Q vid 20 
> pri 1 10.10.10.44.5638 > 198.48.202.251.25826: udp 1377 (ttl 64, id 2495, len 
> 1405)
> 18:05:11.248427 52:54:00:06:aa:01 00:0d:b9:43:9f:fc 8100 1390: 802.1Q vid 20 
> pri 1 10.10.10.44.5638 > 198.48.202.251.25826: udp 1344 (ttl 64, id 47470, 
> len 1372)
> 18:05:11.249478 52:54:00:06:aa:01 00:0d:b9:43:9f:fc 8100 1424: 802.1Q vid 20 
> pri 1 10.10.10.44.5638 > 198.48.202.251.25826: udp 1378 (ttl 64, id 57431, 
> len 1406)
> 18:05:11.570690 00:17:10:8e:44:a5 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 8100 64: 802.1Q vid 10 
> pri 1 arp who-has 184.161.78.225 tell 184.161.78.1
> 18:05:11.586920 00:17:10:8e:44:a5 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 8100 64: 802.1Q vid 10 
> pri 1 arp who-has 192.222.131.28 tell 192.222.131.1
> 18:05:12.050180 00:17:10:8e:44:a5 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 8100 64: 802.1Q vid 10 
> pri 1 arp who-has 24.48.76.202 tell 24.48.76.1
> 
> nothing else than those udp packets (my collectd setup) and the
> arp who-has
> 
> root@pancake:~# ifconfig aggr0 -> still no carrier
> 
> At that point I thought "sthen asked me to try to reboot the switch,
> let's do it now" and shortly after I got in my console
> aggr0 em0 rxm: DEFAULTED (!port_enabled) -> PORT_DISABLED
> aggr0 em1 rxm: DEFAULTED (!port_enabled) -> PORT_DISABLED   
> aggr0 em2 rxm: DEFAULTED (!port_enabled) -> PORT_DISABLED
> aggr0 em2 rxm: PORT_DISABLED (port_enabled) -> EXPIRED   
> aggr0 em1 rxm: PORT_DISABLED (port_enabled) -> EXPIRED
> aggr0 em0 rxm: PORT_DISABLED (port_enabled) -> EXPIRED
> aggr0 em2 rxm: EXPIRED (current_while_timer expired) -> DEFAULTED
> aggr0 em1 rxm: EXPIRED (current_while_timer expired) -> DEFAULTED
> aggr0 em0 rxm: EXPIRED (current_while_timer expired) -> DEFAULTED
> 
> I tried again putting in promiscuous mode. I thought also let's do it
> on all physical interface as well to be safe :D
> 
> # 

Re: Switching from trunk(4) to aggr(4)

2020-12-15 Thread Daniel Jakots
On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 14:30:16 +1000, David Gwynne 
wrote:

> Can you try tcpdump -p -veni em0 -D in and see if any LACP packets
> appear to come in on the port? If not, can you remove the -p and see
> if em0 starts to work?
> 
> There are two main differences between how aggr(4) and trunk(4)
> works. The first you've already found, which is that trunk(4) uses
> the address from one of the ports it's given, while aggr(4) generates
> one when it's created. The second difference is that trunk(4) makes
> member ports promisc, while aggr(4) tries to be a lot more precise
> and takes care to program the ports properly. This means that in your
> environment em(4) has to support changing it's MAC address to the one
> provided by aggr(4), and it has to support joining multicast groups
> properly, including the one that LACP packets are sent to.
> 
> tcpdump with -p means that it won't make the interface promiscuous.
> If you don't see LACP packets come in while the port is promisc, that
> means the multicast filter isn't working properly. It should start
> working if you're running tcpdump without -p on the em(4) ports, or
> on aggr(4) itself.


Thanks for your reply!

Here's what I did (spoiler alert, I couldn't get aggr0 to work):

I switched back the hostname files, and rebooted.

During boot:

starting network
aggr0 em0 trunkport: creating port
aggr0 em0 mux: BEGIN (BEGIN) -> DETACHED
aggr0 em0 rxm: BEGIN (BEGIN) -> INITIALIZE
aggr0 em0 rxm: INITIALIZE (UCT) -> PORT_DISABLED
aggr0 em1 trunkport: creating port
aggr0 em1 mux: BEGIN (BEGIN) -> DETACHED
aggr0 em1 rxm: BEGIN (BEGIN) -> INITIALIZE
aggr0 em1 rxm: INITIALIZE (UCT) -> PORT_DISABLED
aggr0 em2 trunkport: creating port
aggr0 em2 mux: BEGIN (BEGIN) -> DETACHED
aggr0 em2 rxm: BEGIN (BEGIN) -> INITIALIZE
aggr0 em2 rxm: INITIALIZE (UCT) -> PORT_DISABLED
vlan10: no linkaggr0 em0 rxm: PORT_DISABLED (port_enabled) ->
EXPIRED .aggr0 em2 rxm: PORT_DISABLED (port_enabled) -> EXPIRED
aggr0 em1 rxm: PORT_DISABLED (port_enabled) -> EXPIRED
..aggr0 em0 rxm: EXPIRED (current_while_timer expired) -> DEFAULTED
aggr0 em2 rxm: EXPIRED (current_while_timer expired) -> DEFAULTED
aggr0 em1 rxm: EXPIRED (current_while_timer expired) -> DEFAULTED
... sleeping

root@pancake:~# tcpdump -p -veni em0 -D in
tcpdump: listening on em0, link-type EN10MB
18:04:03.996369 80:56:f2:b7:9c:09 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 8100 60: 802.1Q vid 70 pri 
1 arp who-has 10.70.70.254 tell 10.70.70.101
18:04:04.016123 00:17:10:8e:44:a5 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 8100 64: 802.1Q vid 10 pri 
1 arp who-has 24.48.69.20 tell 24.48.69.1
18:04:04.034874 00:17:10:8e:44:a5 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 8100 64: 802.1Q vid 10 pri 
1 arp who-has 24.48.69.109 tell 24.48.69.1

(vlan10 is my uplink to my isp's modem), I didn't have anything but
those arp who-has.

root@pancake:~# ifconfig aggr0 -> still no carrier

root@pancake:~# tcpdump -veni em0 -D in
tcpdump: listening on em0, link-type EN10MB
18:05:11.247455 52:54:00:06:aa:01 00:0d:b9:43:9f:fc 8100 1423: 802.1Q vid 20 
pri 1 10.10.10.44.5638 > 198.48.202.251.25826: udp 1377 (ttl 64, id 2495, len 
1405)
18:05:11.248427 52:54:00:06:aa:01 00:0d:b9:43:9f:fc 8100 1390: 802.1Q vid 20 
pri 1 10.10.10.44.5638 > 198.48.202.251.25826: udp 1344 (ttl 64, id 47470, len 
1372)
18:05:11.249478 52:54:00:06:aa:01 00:0d:b9:43:9f:fc 8100 1424: 802.1Q vid 20 
pri 1 10.10.10.44.5638 > 198.48.202.251.25826: udp 1378 (ttl 64, id 57431, len 
1406)
18:05:11.570690 00:17:10:8e:44:a5 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 8100 64: 802.1Q vid 10 pri 
1 arp who-has 184.161.78.225 tell 184.161.78.1
18:05:11.586920 00:17:10:8e:44:a5 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 8100 64: 802.1Q vid 10 pri 
1 arp who-has 192.222.131.28 tell 192.222.131.1
18:05:12.050180 00:17:10:8e:44:a5 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 8100 64: 802.1Q vid 10 pri 
1 arp who-has 24.48.76.202 tell 24.48.76.1

nothing else than those udp packets (my collectd setup) and the
arp who-has

root@pancake:~# ifconfig aggr0 -> still no carrier

At that point I thought "sthen asked me to try to reboot the switch,
let's do it now" and shortly after I got in my console
aggr0 em0 rxm: DEFAULTED (!port_enabled) -> PORT_DISABLED
aggr0 em1 rxm: DEFAULTED (!port_enabled) -> PORT_DISABLED   
aggr0 em2 rxm: DEFAULTED (!port_enabled) -> PORT_DISABLED
aggr0 em2 rxm: PORT_DISABLED (port_enabled) -> EXPIRED   
aggr0 em1 rxm: PORT_DISABLED (port_enabled) -> EXPIRED
aggr0 em0 rxm: PORT_DISABLED (port_enabled) -> EXPIRED
aggr0 em2 rxm: EXPIRED (current_while_timer expired) -> DEFAULTED
aggr0 em1 rxm: EXPIRED (current_while_timer expired) -> DEFAULTED
aggr0 em0 rxm: EXPIRED (current_while_timer expired) -> DEFAULTED

I tried again putting in promiscuous mode. I thought also let's do it
on all physical interface as well to be safe :D

# tcpdump -veni aggr0 -D in
# tcpdump -veni em0 -D in
# tcpdump -veni em1 -D in
# tcpdump -veni em2 -D in

root@pancake:~# ifconfig aggr0 -> still no carrier


Cheers,
Daniel



Re: Switching from trunk(4) to aggr(4)

2020-12-15 Thread Daniel Jakots
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:26:36 - (UTC), Stuart Henderson
 wrote:

> >> What does the lacp status look like on the switch? (or does it just
> >> say 'up' or something and not really have any status?)  
> >
> > It doesn't say anything about the lacp, it just says the individual
> > ports are going up or down (which is normal since I'm rebooting the
> > apu to apply the network config change).  
> 
> Looking at the switch docs you should get something from "show lacp
> internal", "show lacp neighbor" - maybe compare them between trunk
> and aggr?

I had never connected through serial/cli since I'm a baby who doesn't
know what he's doing so the web interface was nice :3

After the whole adventure of configuring a serial account (which meant
finding the serial cable with an rj45 connector, finding the port baud
rate and so on):

TL-SG3216#show lacp 
 <1-8>- Channel group number
 internal - Actor Lacp Information
 neighbor - Partner Lacp Information
 sys-id   - Display Lacp Global System Priority.

TL-SG3216#show lacp 1 
Error: Bad command

TL-SG3216#show lacp internal

TL-SG3216#show lacp neighbor

TL-SG3216#show lacp sys-id
32768, 8416.f99e.a094


how disappointing :-)
(I tried these, both under trunk0 and aggr0: same result).

I'll reply to your other points in my reply to dlg to centralize all
the info.


Cheers,
Daniel



Re: Switching from trunk(4) to aggr(4)

2020-12-15 Thread Daniel Jakots
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 08:23:15 +0100, Hrvoje Popovski 
wrote:

> maybe to put debug in hostname.aggr0 then destroy it and then sh
> netstart aggr0 ?

Indeed, making hostname.aggr0:

debug
trunkport em0 trunkport em1 trunkport em2
up

made the debug appear, thanks!

Daniel



Re: www.openbsd.org unreachable for a few days

2020-12-15 Thread pipus
it is ok ... go sleepies :)

Before you were born Unix was made with a smile and whim :)
Finger me node please or blow me without a job  

your linux has made you too serious Stuart.
Be careful not to break our final resting place.
VMS, AIX; HPUX; Darwin, SunOS, are all dead  this is the only place left 
for us.
Theo and this before you have made the final haven.


Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, 15 December 2020 17:57, Stuart Henderson  
wrote:

> wat?!
>
> On 2020-12-15, pipus pi...@protonmail.com wrote:
>
> > are you trying from a Windows or Linux machine?
> > As sometimes the website blocks broken and poorly architected OSes by 
> > default through CoPP. :)
> > Bur Sur is also blocked sometimes as it is getting as bad as windows for 
> > bypassing firewalls and stealing your data. Kext bypass anyone?
> > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:57, Ottavio Caruso 
> > ottavio2006-usenet2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I asked on Freenode#OpenBSD and apparently it's only me, but I haven't
> > > been able to access www.openbsd.org for a few days.
> > > There is nothing in my firewall/router that blocks OpenBSD.org. Ping,
> > > traceroute and telnet don't seem to access the site. Can anybody help?
> > > Diagnostics follow.
> > > $ telnet www.openbsd.org 443
> > > Trying 129.128.5.194...
> > > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
> > > $ telnet www.openbsd.org 80
> > > Trying 129.128.5.194...
> > > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
> > > $ host www.openbsd.org
> > > www.openbsd.org has address 129.128.5.194
> > > $ ping 129.128.5.194
> > > PING 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194) 56(84) bytes of data.
> > > ^C
> > > --- 129.128.5.194 ping statistics ---
> > > 31 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 30696ms
> > > $ traceroute 129.128.5.194
> > > traceroute to 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
> > > 1 gateway (192.168.2.1) 0.879 ms 1.433 ms 2.591 ms
> > > 2 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254) 3.400 ms 6.013 ms 11.119 ms
> > > 3 host81-139-176-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com (81.139.176.1) 23.841 ms
> > > 24.279 ms 24.892 ms
> > > 4 217.32.25.94 (217.32.25.94) 26.975 ms 32.948 ms 33.224 ms
> > > 5 217.32.25.120 (217.32.25.120) 34.331 ms 34.815 ms 35.379 ms
> > > 6 31.55.185.228 (31.55.185.228) 36.239 ms 31.55.185.192
> > > (31.55.185.192) 18.589 ms 31.55.185.208 (31.55.185.208) 23.081 ms
> > > 7 core1-hu0-16-0-6.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.16) 24.023
> > > ms core2-hu0-12-0-5.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.122) 24.013
> > > ms core1-hu0-16-0-7.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.18) 24.400
> > > ms
> > > 8 109.159.252.138 (109.159.252.138) 25.195 ms
> > > core2-hu0-1-0-1-1.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.9) 26.188 ms
> > > core3-hu0-8-0-0.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.36) 27.082 ms
> > > 9 62.6.201.145 (62.6.201.145) 27.534 ms 166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net
> > > (166.49.209.194) 28.250 ms 62.6.201.145 (62.6.201.145) 33.835 ms
> > > 10 166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net (166.49.209.194) 34.201 ms 34.174 ms 34.132 
> > > ms
> > > 11 40ge1-3.core1.lon2.he.net (195.66.224.21) 35.068 ms
> > > 100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166) 101.075 ms 86.105 ms
> > > 12 100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166) 85.940 ms 87.165 ms
> > > 100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10) 97.811 ms
> > > 13 100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102) 122.819 ms
> > > 100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10) 98.632 ms 99.697 ms
> > > 14 100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102) 124.813 ms
> > > 100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70) 138.323 ms
> > > 100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102) 134.804 ms
> > > 15 100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70) 137.811 ms
> > > 100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61) 164.945 ms 163.780 ms
> > > 16 * 100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61) 164.850 ms *
> > > 17 * * *
> > > 18 * * *
> > > 19 * * *
> > > 20 * * *
> > > 21 * * *
> > > 22 * * *
> > > 23 * * *
> > > 24 * * *
> > > 25 * * *
> > > 26 * * *
> > > 27 * * *
> > > 28 * * *
> > > 29 * * *
> > >
> > > Ottavio Caruso




Re: RISC-V and OpenBSD

2020-12-15 Thread Stuart Longland
On 10/12/20 4:33 am, Mihai Popescu wrote:
> Just wanted to see if RISC-V architecture is attractive for OpenBSD
> development. It's open and it is from Berkeley.

I hear it's only truly open if you're part of their exclusive "club".
Otherwise it's as much "you take what you're given" as any other
architecture.

If you're willing to do a port, I doubt any here could stop you.  RISC-V
hardware needs to become available though before such a port will become
any practical use.
-- 
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

I haven't lost my mind...
  ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.



OpenBSD -current not booting on Dell M4800

2020-12-15 Thread jpeg
Hello,
I've sent some bug reports about this, but maybe that wasn't the best
place to post it. When upgrading to a snapshot with sysupgrade and 
rebooting, the display hangs as openbsd loads wdisplay0, and
xenodm nor X will start. I don't think wdisplay loads at all. This 
happens on amd64 with the multiprocessor kernel, but not with the 
single processor one. I did not notice anything out of the ordinary
during the upgrade. Anyone might be able to help?

Latest bug report with Xorg.log, dmesg, and acpi is here:
https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs=160575016004118=2



Re: 9Front on VMM on Ryzen Hardware

2020-12-15 Thread Aaron Bieber


e...@disroot.org writes:

> Hello, I hope that this is the right mailing list to send this query to.
>
> First some background. It is possible to run 9front on OpenBSD using
> vmm, this is well documented and I have gotten it working before on a
> ThinkPad X220.
> Where I run into trouble is trying to install it on a T14 AMD, which
> uses an AMD processor. Essentially when you begin to run the live cd,
> the 9front kernel loads, and then immediately vmd restarts the virtual
> machine, presumably because it crashed somewhere in the boot process.
>
> Now to the question, how would I go about debugging this? I know that
> this install works on Intel, this is on OpenBSD -current.
>
> The 9front IRC told me that it was a vmm issue, as there are different
> implementations on AMD and Intel, is this true?
> If so, what debugging should I run to help the OpenBSD developers fix
> this issue?
>
> If it's a 9front issue, is there any way for me to be able to take some
> kind of memory dump so that the 9front developers can handle this?
>
> Hopefully this wasn't too off topic, I have read the relevant manual
> pages for vmm, but I couldn't work out what debugger to use, I'm not
> here to get others to debug it for me, only to work out where to start.
>
> Thank you

I have run into this as well.. There was a change in 9front some time
before the release of the amd64 ISOs that seems to have caused it.

I was able to boot the 386 ISO (9front-7408.1d345066125a.386.iso) and a
amd64 kernel built from the source contained within that ISO. There was
about a full year of development between that ISO and when I started
seeing the issue, so it's not a very useful data point :P.

cinap on #cat-v had some pointers for troubleshooting:

2020-05-29 07:19:47 cinap_lenrekso go to /sys/src/boot/pc
2020-05-29 07:19:55 cinap_lenrekin the mkfile, theres a test.iso target 
or something
2020-05-29 07:20:02 cinap_lenrekyou can adjust that
2020-05-29 07:20:07 qbitok
2020-05-29 07:20:24 cinap_lenrekbasically, you want a workflow where 
you just run a command to generate a new iso with the kernel
2020-05-29 07:20:28 cinap_lenreknothing else
2020-05-29 07:20:35 cinap_lenrekthats good enougth to troubleshoot this
2020-05-29 07:20:41 cinap_lenrekand then boot it from vmd

Sorry it isn't much help!

Cheers,
Aaron



Re: www.openbsd.org unreachable for a few days

2020-12-15 Thread Theo de Raadt
I've been told something was just fixed.

Now is a good time to retry.

Reply just to me, please.

ONLY people who observed the problems.


Ottavio Caruso  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I asked on Freenode#OpenBSD and apparently it's only me, but I haven't
> been able to access www.openbsd.org for a few days.
> 
> There is nothing in my firewall/router that blocks OpenBSD.org. Ping,
> traceroute and telnet don't seem to access the site. Can anybody help?
> Diagnostics follow.
> 
> $ telnet www.openbsd.org 443
> Trying 129.128.5.194...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
> 
> $ telnet www.openbsd.org 80
> Trying 129.128.5.194...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
> 
> $ host www.openbsd.org
> www.openbsd.org has address 129.128.5.194
> 
> $ ping 129.128.5.194
> PING 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194) 56(84) bytes of data.
> ^C
> --- 129.128.5.194 ping statistics ---
> 31 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 30696ms
> 
> $ traceroute 129.128.5.194
> traceroute to 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>  1  gateway (192.168.2.1)  0.879 ms  1.433 ms  2.591 ms
>  2  192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254)  3.400 ms  6.013 ms  11.119 ms
>  3  host81-139-176-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com (81.139.176.1)  23.841 ms
>  24.279 ms  24.892 ms
>  4  217.32.25.94 (217.32.25.94)  26.975 ms  32.948 ms  33.224 ms
>  5  217.32.25.120 (217.32.25.120)  34.331 ms  34.815 ms  35.379 ms
>  6  31.55.185.228 (31.55.185.228)  36.239 ms 31.55.185.192
> (31.55.185.192)  18.589 ms 31.55.185.208 (31.55.185.208)  23.081 ms
>  7  core1-hu0-16-0-6.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.16)  24.023
> ms core2-hu0-12-0-5.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.122)  24.013
> ms core1-hu0-16-0-7.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.18)  24.400
> ms
>  8  109.159.252.138 (109.159.252.138)  25.195 ms
> core2-hu0-1-0-1-1.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.9)  26.188 ms
> core3-hu0-8-0-0.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.36)  27.082 ms
>  9  62.6.201.145 (62.6.201.145)  27.534 ms 166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net
> (166.49.209.194)  28.250 ms 62.6.201.145 (62.6.201.145)  33.835 ms
> 10  166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net (166.49.209.194)  34.201 ms  34.174 ms  34.132 
> ms
> 11  40ge1-3.core1.lon2.he.net (195.66.224.21)  35.068 ms
> 100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166)  101.075 ms  86.105 ms
> 12  100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166)  85.940 ms  87.165 ms
> 100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10)  97.811 ms
> 13  100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102)  122.819 ms
> 100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10)  98.632 ms  99.697 ms
> 14  100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102)  124.813 ms
> 100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70)  138.323 ms
> 100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102)  134.804 ms
> 15  100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70)  137.811 ms
> 100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61)  164.945 ms  163.780 ms
> 16  * 100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61)  164.850 ms *
> 17  * * *
> 18  * * *
> 19  * * *
> 20  * * *
> 21  * * *
> 22  * * *
> 23  * * *
> 24  * * *
> 25  * * *
> 26  * * *
> 27  * * *
> 28  * * *
> 29  * * *
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ottavio Caruso
> 



Re: www.openbsd.org unreachable for a few days

2020-12-15 Thread pipus
are you trying from a Windows or Linux machine?
As sometimes the website blocks broken and poorly architected OSes by default 
through CoPP. :)
Bur Sur is also blocked sometimes as it is getting as bad as windows for 
bypassing firewalls and stealing your data.  Kext bypass anyone?

Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:57, Ottavio Caruso 
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I asked on Freenode#OpenBSD and apparently it's only me, but I haven't
> been able to access www.openbsd.org for a few days.
>
> There is nothing in my firewall/router that blocks OpenBSD.org. Ping,
> traceroute and telnet don't seem to access the site. Can anybody help?
> Diagnostics follow.
>
> $ telnet www.openbsd.org 443
> Trying 129.128.5.194...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
>
> $ telnet www.openbsd.org 80
> Trying 129.128.5.194...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
>
> $ host www.openbsd.org
> www.openbsd.org has address 129.128.5.194
>
> $ ping 129.128.5.194
> PING 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194) 56(84) bytes of data.
> ^C
> --- 129.128.5.194 ping statistics ---
> 31 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 30696ms
>
> $ traceroute 129.128.5.194
> traceroute to 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
> 1 gateway (192.168.2.1) 0.879 ms 1.433 ms 2.591 ms
> 2 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254) 3.400 ms 6.013 ms 11.119 ms
> 3 host81-139-176-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com (81.139.176.1) 23.841 ms
> 24.279 ms 24.892 ms
> 4 217.32.25.94 (217.32.25.94) 26.975 ms 32.948 ms 33.224 ms
> 5 217.32.25.120 (217.32.25.120) 34.331 ms 34.815 ms 35.379 ms
> 6 31.55.185.228 (31.55.185.228) 36.239 ms 31.55.185.192
> (31.55.185.192) 18.589 ms 31.55.185.208 (31.55.185.208) 23.081 ms
> 7 core1-hu0-16-0-6.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.16) 24.023
> ms core2-hu0-12-0-5.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.122) 24.013
> ms core1-hu0-16-0-7.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.18) 24.400
> ms
> 8 109.159.252.138 (109.159.252.138) 25.195 ms
> core2-hu0-1-0-1-1.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.9) 26.188 ms
> core3-hu0-8-0-0.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.36) 27.082 ms
> 9 62.6.201.145 (62.6.201.145) 27.534 ms 166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net
> (166.49.209.194) 28.250 ms 62.6.201.145 (62.6.201.145) 33.835 ms
> 10 166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net (166.49.209.194) 34.201 ms 34.174 ms 34.132 ms
> 11 40ge1-3.core1.lon2.he.net (195.66.224.21) 35.068 ms
> 100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166) 101.075 ms 86.105 ms
> 12 100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166) 85.940 ms 87.165 ms
> 100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10) 97.811 ms
> 13 100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102) 122.819 ms
> 100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10) 98.632 ms 99.697 ms
> 14 100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102) 124.813 ms
> 100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70) 138.323 ms
> 100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102) 134.804 ms
> 15 100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70) 137.811 ms
> 100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61) 164.945 ms 163.780 ms
> 16 * 100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61) 164.850 ms *
> 17 * * *
> 18 * * *
> 19 * * *
> 20 * * *
> 21 * * *
> 22 * * *
> 23 * * *
> 24 * * *
> 25 * * *
> 26 * * *
> 27 * * *
> 28 * * *
> 29 * * *
>
>
> 

Re: www.openbsd.org unreachable for a few days

2020-12-15 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 10:55:27AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Janne Johansson  wrote:
> 
> > Den tis 15 dec. 2020 kl 13:00 skrev Ottavio Caruso <
> > ottavio2006-usenet2...@yahoo.com>:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > I asked on Freenode#OpenBSD and apparently it's only me, but I haven't
> > > been able to access www.openbsd.org for a few days.
> > >
> > > $ traceroute 129.128.5.194
> > > traceroute to 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
> > >
> > >
> > ...
> > 
> > 
> > > 11  40ge1-3.core1.lon2.he.net (195.66.224.21)  35.068 ms
> > > 100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166)  101.075 ms  86.105 ms
> > 
> > 
> > I heard a similar complaint elsewhere and that was going over he.net also,
> > whereas I could reach it in the mean time, going over shawn to ualbert.ca
> > and onwards, so I guess he.net is presently bad at routing to the correct
> > places.
> 
> Sorry, you'd be incorrect blaming he.net.
> 
> UofA border is doing some kind of broken filtering, or perhaps it is
> incorrect routing of replies into EDU network (cybera/canarie).
> 
> It is up to them to fix it, but there have been no replies yet.

I have just traced www.openbsd.org from Poland:

[... skip irrelevant part ...]
4  pl-waw02a-ri1-ae-0-0.aorta.net (84.116.138.94)  12.570 ms  13.431 ms  15.473 
ms
5  213.46.178.30 (213.46.178.30)  14.047 ms  15.825 ms  13.434 ms
6  100ge16-2.core1.par2.he.net (184.105.213.121)  39.736 ms  53.853 ms  41.229 
ms
7  100ge11-2.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.113)  107.904 ms  116.301 ms  109.851 
ms
8  100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10)  119.988 ms  124.484 ms  119.546 
ms
9  100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102)  138.756 ms  140.801 ms  139.474 
ms
10  100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70)  157.590 ms  153.117 ms  
155.520 ms
11  100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61)  154.828 ms  154.963 ms  156.100 
ms
12  university-of-alberta-sms.10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.yeg1.he.net 
(184.105.18.50)  156.854 ms  157.227 ms  160.990 ms
13  cabcore-esqgw.corenet.ualberta.ca (129.128.255.35)  158.464 ms  163.029 ms 
katzcore-esqgw.corenet.ualberta.ca (129.128.255.41)  157.714 ms
14  * * *
15  gateway-5.ucs.ualberta.ca (129.128.5.1)  166.056 ms  155.914 ms  160.884 ms
16  obsd3.srv.ualberta.ca (129.128.5.194)  154.972 ms  160.039 ms  156.403 ms
2020-12-15 18:54:31  www.openbsd.org reachable

HTH,
-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.  **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home**
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...  **
** **
** Tomasz Rola  mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **



Re: 9Front on VMM on Ryzen Hardware

2020-12-15 Thread Mike Larkin
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 12:10:42PM +, e...@disroot.org wrote:
> Hello, I hope that this is the right mailing list to send this query to.
>
> First some background. It is possible to run 9front on OpenBSD using
> vmm, this is well documented and I have gotten it working before on a
> ThinkPad X220.
> Where I run into trouble is trying to install it on a T14 AMD, which
> uses an AMD processor. Essentially when you begin to run the live cd,
> the 9front kernel loads, and then immediately vmd restarts the virtual
> machine, presumably because it crashed somewhere in the boot process.
>
> Now to the question, how would I go about debugging this? I know that
> this install works on Intel, this is on OpenBSD -current.
>
> The 9front IRC told me that it was a vmm issue, as there are different
> implementations on AMD and Intel, is this true?
> If so, what debugging should I run to help the OpenBSD developers fix
> this issue?
>
> If it's a 9front issue, is there any way for me to be able to take some
> kind of memory dump so that the 9front developers can handle this?
>
> Hopefully this wasn't too off topic, I have read the relevant manual
> pages for vmm, but I couldn't work out what debugger to use, I'm not
> here to get others to debug it for me, only to work out where to start.
>
> Thank you
>

If you know how, build a kernel with VMM_DEBUG enabled and send me the
output from dmesg (it will be a lot) when the VM crashes.

VMM_DEBUG is settable at the top of vmm.c, fwiw.

-ml



Re: www.openbsd.org unreachable for a few days

2020-12-15 Thread Theo de Raadt
Janne Johansson  wrote:

> Den tis 15 dec. 2020 kl 13:00 skrev Ottavio Caruso <
> ottavio2006-usenet2...@yahoo.com>:
> 
> > Hi,
> > I asked on Freenode#OpenBSD and apparently it's only me, but I haven't
> > been able to access www.openbsd.org for a few days.
> >
> > $ traceroute 129.128.5.194
> > traceroute to 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
> >
> >
> ...
> 
> 
> > 11  40ge1-3.core1.lon2.he.net (195.66.224.21)  35.068 ms
> > 100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166)  101.075 ms  86.105 ms
> 
> 
> I heard a similar complaint elsewhere and that was going over he.net also,
> whereas I could reach it in the mean time, going over shawn to ualbert.ca
> and onwards, so I guess he.net is presently bad at routing to the correct
> places.

Sorry, you'd be incorrect blaming he.net.

UofA border is doing some kind of broken filtering, or perhaps it is
incorrect routing of replies into EDU network (cybera/canarie).

It is up to them to fix it, but there have been no replies yet.



Re: www.openbsd.org unreachable for a few days

2020-12-15 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2020-12-15, Stuart Henderson  wrote:
> One thing that seems interesting to me is that the working ones have IP
> addresses which are covered by RPKI ROAs and the non working ones that
> I've seen don't, but the same ISP *does* publish ROAs for other addresses.

 oh, ROA is there, I just missed it.. I should have just used
bgpctl rather than trying to read the list of prefixes :)

> Anyway I am prety sure we need traceroutes from UofA to find out more.
>
>
>



Re: www.openbsd.org unreachable for a few days

2020-12-15 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2020-12-15, Ottavio Caruso  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I asked on Freenode#OpenBSD and apparently it's only me, but I haven't
> been able to access www.openbsd.org for a few days.

Has been a problem on *some* connections since about 16:00UTC on the 9th.
I believe it is on the return path, because it works from some IP addresses
but not others on the same ISP, so there's little we're going to be able
to tell from a traceroute from the client side. I've sent private mail to
the www server admin to ask if he can check from his side.

> $ traceroute 129.128.5.194
> traceroute to 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>  1  gateway (192.168.2.1)  0.879 ms  1.433 ms  2.591 ms
>  2  192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254)  3.400 ms  6.013 ms  11.119 ms
>  3  host81-139-176-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com (81.139.176.1)  23.841 ms
>  24.279 ms  24.892 ms
>  4  217.32.25.94 (217.32.25.94)  26.975 ms  32.948 ms  33.224 ms
>  5  217.32.25.120 (217.32.25.120)  34.331 ms  34.815 ms  35.379 ms
>  6  31.55.185.228 (31.55.185.228)  36.239 ms 31.55.185.192
> (31.55.185.192)  18.589 ms 31.55.185.208 (31.55.185.208)  23.081 ms
>  7  core1-hu0-16-0-6.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.16)  24.023
> ms core2-hu0-12-0-5.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.122)  24.013
> ms core1-hu0-16-0-7.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.18)  24.400
> ms
>  8  109.159.252.138 (109.159.252.138)  25.195 ms
> core2-hu0-1-0-1-1.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.9)  26.188 ms
> core3-hu0-8-0-0.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.36)  27.082 ms
>  9  62.6.201.145 (62.6.201.145)  27.534 ms 166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net
> (166.49.209.194)  28.250 ms 62.6.201.145 (62.6.201.145)  33.835 ms
> 10  166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net (166.49.209.194)  34.201 ms  34.174 ms  34.132 
> ms
> 11  40ge1-3.core1.lon2.he.net (195.66.224.21)  35.068 ms
> 100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166)  101.075 ms  86.105 ms
> 12  100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166)  85.940 ms  87.165 ms
> 100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10)  97.811 ms
> 13  100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102)  122.819 ms
> 100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10)  98.632 ms  99.697 ms
> 14  100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102)  124.813 ms
> 100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70)  138.323 ms
> 100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102)  134.804 ms
> 15  100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70)  137.811 ms
> 100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61)  164.945 ms  163.780 ms
> 16  * 100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61)  164.850 ms *
> 17  * * *
> 18  * * *
> 19  * * *

Yet from another BT connection it works:

 1  62.6.243.145 (62.6.243.145)  1.089 ms  0.756 ms  0.595 ms
 2  ch-de.eurocore.bt.net (194.72.24.204)  10.445 ms  10.646 ms  10.576 ms
 3  core2-te0-11-0-14.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.254.14)  11.852 ms 
core2-te0-13-0-1.southbank.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.254.22)  11.479 ms 
core2-te0-11-0-12.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.254.6)  11.309 ms
 4  109.159.252.138 (109.159.252.138)  11.876 ms 
core4-hu0-1-0-1.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.50)  11.644 ms 
core4-hu0-2-0-4.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.70)  10.946 ms
 5  166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net (166.49.209.194)  11.333 ms  11.008 ms  11.701 ms
 6  40ge1-3.core1.lon2.he.net (195.66.224.21)  12.404 ms  12.326 ms  13.749 ms
 7  100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166)  77.78 ms  77.304 ms  85.621 ms
 8  100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10)  106.467 ms  89.209 ms  88.499 
ms
 9  100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102)  124.079 ms  123.837 ms  
124.221 ms
10  100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70)  131.846 ms  132.143 ms  
133.125 ms
11  100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61)  128.302 ms  127.369 ms  128.946 
ms
12  university-of-alberta-sms.10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.yeg1.he.net 
(184.105.18.50)  139.441 ms  140.486 ms  139.761 ms
13  katzcore-esqgw.corenet.ualberta.ca (129.128.255.41)  139.524 ms 
cabcore-esqgw.corenet.ualberta.ca (129.128.255.35)  129.582 ms  127.53 ms
14  * * *
15  gateway-5.ucs.ualberta.ca (129.128.5.1)  140.109 ms  141.08 ms  139.615 ms
16  obsd3.srv.ualberta.ca (129.128.5.194)  128.682 ms  128.259 ms  128.715 ms

And I have both working and non-working examples on Zen.

One thing that seems interesting to me is that the working ones have IP
addresses which are covered by RPKI ROAs and the non working ones that
I've seen don't, but the same ISP *does* publish ROAs for other addresses.

Anyway I am prety sure we need traceroutes from UofA to find out more.




Re: www.openbsd.org unreachable for a few days

2020-12-15 Thread Stuart Henderson
wat?!


On 2020-12-15, pipus  wrote:
> are you trying from a Windows or Linux machine?
> As sometimes the website blocks broken and poorly architected OSes by default 
> through CoPP. :)
> Bur Sur is also blocked sometimes as it is getting as bad as windows for 
> bypassing firewalls and stealing your data.  Kext bypass anyone?
>
> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:57, Ottavio Caruso 
>  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I asked on Freenode#OpenBSD and apparently it's only me, but I haven't
>> been able to access www.openbsd.org for a few days.
>>
>> There is nothing in my firewall/router that blocks OpenBSD.org. Ping,
>> traceroute and telnet don't seem to access the site. Can anybody help?
>> Diagnostics follow.
>>
>> $ telnet www.openbsd.org 443
>> Trying 129.128.5.194...
>> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
>>
>> $ telnet www.openbsd.org 80
>> Trying 129.128.5.194...
>> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
>>
>> $ host www.openbsd.org
>> www.openbsd.org has address 129.128.5.194
>>
>> $ ping 129.128.5.194
>> PING 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194) 56(84) bytes of data.
>> ^C
>> --- 129.128.5.194 ping statistics ---
>> 31 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 30696ms
>>
>> $ traceroute 129.128.5.194
>> traceroute to 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>> 1 gateway (192.168.2.1) 0.879 ms 1.433 ms 2.591 ms
>> 2 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254) 3.400 ms 6.013 ms 11.119 ms
>> 3 host81-139-176-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com (81.139.176.1) 23.841 ms
>> 24.279 ms 24.892 ms
>> 4 217.32.25.94 (217.32.25.94) 26.975 ms 32.948 ms 33.224 ms
>> 5 217.32.25.120 (217.32.25.120) 34.331 ms 34.815 ms 35.379 ms
>> 6 31.55.185.228 (31.55.185.228) 36.239 ms 31.55.185.192
>> (31.55.185.192) 18.589 ms 31.55.185.208 (31.55.185.208) 23.081 ms
>> 7 core1-hu0-16-0-6.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.16) 24.023
>> ms core2-hu0-12-0-5.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.122) 24.013
>> ms core1-hu0-16-0-7.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.18) 24.400
>> ms
>> 8 109.159.252.138 (109.159.252.138) 25.195 ms
>> core2-hu0-1-0-1-1.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.9) 26.188 ms
>> core3-hu0-8-0-0.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.36) 27.082 ms
>> 9 62.6.201.145 (62.6.201.145) 27.534 ms 166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net
>> (166.49.209.194) 28.250 ms 62.6.201.145 (62.6.201.145) 33.835 ms
>> 10 166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net (166.49.209.194) 34.201 ms 34.174 ms 34.132 ms
>> 11 40ge1-3.core1.lon2.he.net (195.66.224.21) 35.068 ms
>> 100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166) 101.075 ms 86.105 ms
>> 12 100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166) 85.940 ms 87.165 ms
>> 100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10) 97.811 ms
>> 13 100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102) 122.819 ms
>> 100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10) 98.632 ms 99.697 ms
>> 14 100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102) 124.813 ms
>> 100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70) 138.323 ms
>> 100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102) 134.804 ms
>> 15 100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70) 137.811 ms
>> 100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61) 164.945 ms 163.780 ms
>> 16 * 100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61) 164.850 ms *
>> 17 * * *
>> 18 * * *
>> 19 * * *
>> 20 * * *
>> 21 * * *
>> 22 * * *
>> 23 * * *
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>> 

Re: www.openbsd.org unreachable for a few days

2020-12-15 Thread Jeff Joshua Rollin



On 15/12/2020 11:57, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

Hi,

I asked on Freenode#OpenBSD and apparently it's only me, but I haven't
been able to access www.openbsd.org for a few days.

There is nothing in my firewall/router that blocks OpenBSD.org. Ping,
traceroute and telnet don't seem to access the site.




Both browsing to the website and traceroute work for me (assuming 
obsd3.srv.ualberta.ca is actually where www.openbsd.org resides). Only 
just tried traceroute, but the website seems to have been up for me over 
the last several days, on both Manjaro Linux and Android.


I'm in the UK (Newcastle upon Tyne, North East England), if that makes 
any difference.


HTH

Jeff.



9Front on VMM on Ryzen Hardware

2020-12-15 Thread edl
Hello, I hope that this is the right mailing list to send this query to.

First some background. It is possible to run 9front on OpenBSD using
vmm, this is well documented and I have gotten it working before on a
ThinkPad X220.
Where I run into trouble is trying to install it on a T14 AMD, which
uses an AMD processor. Essentially when you begin to run the live cd,
the 9front kernel loads, and then immediately vmd restarts the virtual
machine, presumably because it crashed somewhere in the boot process.

Now to the question, how would I go about debugging this? I know that
this install works on Intel, this is on OpenBSD -current.

The 9front IRC told me that it was a vmm issue, as there are different
implementations on AMD and Intel, is this true?
If so, what debugging should I run to help the OpenBSD developers fix
this issue?

If it's a 9front issue, is there any way for me to be able to take some
kind of memory dump so that the 9front developers can handle this?

Hopefully this wasn't too off topic, I have read the relevant manual
pages for vmm, but I couldn't work out what debugger to use, I'm not
here to get others to debug it for me, only to work out where to start.

Thank you



www.openbsd.org unreachable for a few days

2020-12-15 Thread Ottavio Caruso
Hi,

I asked on Freenode#OpenBSD and apparently it's only me, but I haven't
been able to access www.openbsd.org for a few days.

There is nothing in my firewall/router that blocks OpenBSD.org. Ping,
traceroute and telnet don't seem to access the site. Can anybody help?
Diagnostics follow.

$ telnet www.openbsd.org 443
Trying 129.128.5.194...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out

$ telnet www.openbsd.org 80
Trying 129.128.5.194...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out

$ host www.openbsd.org
www.openbsd.org has address 129.128.5.194

$ ping 129.128.5.194
PING 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- 129.128.5.194 ping statistics ---
31 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 30696ms

$ traceroute 129.128.5.194
traceroute to 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  gateway (192.168.2.1)  0.879 ms  1.433 ms  2.591 ms
 2  192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254)  3.400 ms  6.013 ms  11.119 ms
 3  host81-139-176-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com (81.139.176.1)  23.841 ms
 24.279 ms  24.892 ms
 4  217.32.25.94 (217.32.25.94)  26.975 ms  32.948 ms  33.224 ms
 5  217.32.25.120 (217.32.25.120)  34.331 ms  34.815 ms  35.379 ms
 6  31.55.185.228 (31.55.185.228)  36.239 ms 31.55.185.192
(31.55.185.192)  18.589 ms 31.55.185.208 (31.55.185.208)  23.081 ms
 7  core1-hu0-16-0-6.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.16)  24.023
ms core2-hu0-12-0-5.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.122)  24.013
ms core1-hu0-16-0-7.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.18)  24.400
ms
 8  109.159.252.138 (109.159.252.138)  25.195 ms
core2-hu0-1-0-1-1.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.9)  26.188 ms
core3-hu0-8-0-0.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.36)  27.082 ms
 9  62.6.201.145 (62.6.201.145)  27.534 ms 166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net
(166.49.209.194)  28.250 ms 62.6.201.145 (62.6.201.145)  33.835 ms
10  166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net (166.49.209.194)  34.201 ms  34.174 ms  34.132 ms
11  40ge1-3.core1.lon2.he.net (195.66.224.21)  35.068 ms
100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166)  101.075 ms  86.105 ms
12  100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166)  85.940 ms  87.165 ms
100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10)  97.811 ms
13  100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102)  122.819 ms
100ge14-1.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.10)  98.632 ms  99.697 ms
14  100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102)  124.813 ms
100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70)  138.323 ms
100ge6-1.core1.ywg1.he.net (184.105.64.102)  134.804 ms
15  100ge5-2.core1.yxe1.he.net (184.104.192.70)  137.811 ms
100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61)  164.945 ms  163.780 ms
16  * 100ge11-2.core1.yeg1.he.net (72.52.92.61)  164.850 ms *
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  * * *
21  * * *
22  * * *
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *


-- 
Ottavio Caruso



Re: 9Front on VMM on Ryzen Hardware

2020-12-15 Thread Bodie




On 15.12.2020 13:10, e...@disroot.org wrote:
Hello, I hope that this is the right mailing list to send this query 
to.


First some background. It is possible to run 9front on OpenBSD using
vmm, this is well documented and I have gotten it working before on a
ThinkPad X220.
Where I run into trouble is trying to install it on a T14 AMD, which
uses an AMD processor. Essentially when you begin to run the live cd,
the 9front kernel loads, and then immediately vmd restarts the virtual
machine, presumably because it crashed somewhere in the boot process.

Now to the question, how would I go about debugging this? I know that
this install works on Intel, this is on OpenBSD -current.

The 9front IRC told me that it was a vmm issue, as there are different
implementations on AMD and Intel, is this true?
If so, what debugging should I run to help the OpenBSD developers fix
this issue?


Described here https://www.openbsd.org/report.html

dmesg(8) is a good start and you may play with 
https://man.openbsd.org/boot_config




If it's a 9front issue, is there any way for me to be able to take some
kind of memory dump so that the 9front developers can handle this?

Hopefully this wasn't too off topic, I have read the relevant manual
pages for vmm, but I couldn't work out what debugger to use, I'm not
here to get others to debug it for me, only to work out where to start.

Thank you




Re: www.openbsd.org unreachable for a few days

2020-12-15 Thread Janne Johansson
Den tis 15 dec. 2020 kl 13:00 skrev Ottavio Caruso <
ottavio2006-usenet2...@yahoo.com>:

> Hi,
> I asked on Freenode#OpenBSD and apparently it's only me, but I haven't
> been able to access www.openbsd.org for a few days.
>
> $ traceroute 129.128.5.194
> traceroute to 129.128.5.194 (129.128.5.194), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>
>
...


> 11  40ge1-3.core1.lon2.he.net (195.66.224.21)  35.068 ms
> 100ge4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166)  101.075 ms  86.105 ms


I heard a similar complaint elsewhere and that was going over he.net also,
whereas I could reach it in the mean time, going over shawn to ualbert.ca
and onwards, so I guess he.net is presently bad at routing to the correct
places.

-- 
May the most significant bit of your life be positive.


Re: www.openbsd.org unreachable for a few days

2020-12-15 Thread Tyler Griffiths


> I asked on Freenode#OpenBSD and apparently it's only me, but I haven't
> been able to access www.openbsd.org for a few days.


It's not just you, my traceroutes stop at the same point.  Curiously
though, I _CAN_ reach www.openbsd.org using a NAT64 service provided by
my ISP.


--
Tyler Griffiths