Re: obsd installation on a live file system

2006-09-21 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 11:04:13PM -0300, Gustavo Rios wrote: Hi folks, i am preparing a boot server running openbsd for openbsd diskless clients. I am in doubt on how to fake a installation procedure on a directory tree, for instance: /export/client-[0-a]. I would like to install openbsd

Re: kernel rebuild - and rebuild userland?

2006-09-21 Thread Francois Visconte
Hello, I think the real question is : is there allways a backward compatibility of system calls accross patching ? ... I thinks this is mostly de case -- Frangois Visconte Jason Dixon wrote: On Sep 20, 2006, at 8:10 PM, Patsy wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, John Costello wrote: This is

Re: ath(4) testers needed: AR2413, AR5413, AR5424 and AR5212 11a mode

2006-09-21 Thread Dmitri Alenitchev
Jurjen Oskam wrote: On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 08:21:58PM +0200, Reyk Floeter wrote: [test ath] please also test it if you have an intel-based mac - the integrated wireless NIC is based on the pci express AR5424 chipset. [...] just test -current. Are there already snapshots

Re: OT Media-Converters, was Re: BGP router now running desp. low on mem.

2006-09-21 Thread Per Engelbrecht
Siegbert Marschall wrote: Hi, ## Physical connection: # ## We are terminating with this carrier in a FE port but due to the distance between them and us at the datacenter location, a FDDI connection was placed in between like: [our

Re: OT Media-Converters, was Re: BGP router now running desp. low on mem.

2006-09-21 Thread Per Engelbrecht
Diana Eichert wrote: Just wanted to throw in my US$.02 worth on the media converter issue. At my place of employment a facility design decision was taken a few years ago mandating all fiber buildings. It was pretty obvious they were clueless about commodity h/w so now we have this huge

Passive FTP support on a workstation running PF

2006-09-21 Thread Tom Fitzhenry
Hi, I'm going to university in one week and the university explicitly says that only one computer (including hardware routers/firewalls) may be connected to their network; hence, I must run PF on my workstation. I'm running default deny for both outgoing and incoming packets. The problem is

Re: Passive FTP support on a workstation running PF

2006-09-21 Thread Camiel Dobbelaar
The user and group features of pf are useful for this. See also: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=115202430208726w=2 On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Tom Fitzhenry wrote: Hi, I'm going to university in one week and the university explicitly says that only one computer (including hardware

hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Peter
I have seen on two sites a guy complaining about the CD ordering system. Apparently there is no mention of the amount you will actually be paying unless you provide your CC info. This may detract some potential buyers. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Steve Tornio
On Sep 21, 2006, at 8:41 AM, Peter wrote: I have seen on two sites a guy complaining about the CD ordering system. Apparently there is no mention of the amount you will actually be paying unless you provide your CC info. This may detract some potential buyers. Huh? The prices are right

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
Peter wrote: I have seen on two sites a guy complaining about the CD ordering system. Apparently there is no mention of the amount you will actually be paying unless you provide your CC info. This may detract some potential buyers. I can't reproduce that. Both, International and European

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Bob Beck
* Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-09-21 08:52]: I have seen on two sites a guy complaining about the CD ordering system. Apparently there is no mention of the amount you will actually be paying unless you provide your CC info. This may detract some potential buyers. news to me. yes,

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Jason Dixon
On Sep 21, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Bob Beck wrote: * Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-09-21 08:52]: I have seen on two sites a guy complaining about the CD ordering system. Apparently there is no mention of the amount you will actually be paying unless you provide your CC info. This may detract

Re: OpenBSD 4.0 pre-orders are up

2006-09-21 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On Sep 20, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: or drag your attention to it. The owners of Asterix and Obelix aren't as friendly as their cartoons :-) Our releases are thematic parodies, specifically permitted by law. And very funny. I spent some time yesterday afternoon explaining to my

Re: Some recommendations on file locations sought

2006-09-21 Thread John Draper
Jack J. Woehr wrote: On Sep 20, 2006, at 3:11 PM, John Draper wrote: According to the Apache docs (I couldn't find anything in the OpenBSD Site), they recommend I setup the path to the passwd file in /usr/local/apache/passwd Since we're chrooted, how about:

Re: Some recommendations on file locations sought

2006-09-21 Thread John Draper
Spruell, Darren-Perot wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I looked in the OpenBSD FAQ and documentation area, and cannot seem to find out the best place to keep my apache password files. According to the Apache docs (I couldn't find anything in the OpenBSD Site),

Re: IPSec routing problem when using UDP

2006-09-21 Thread David Bryan
You may want to include some more information, like what version of OpenBSD your running, and one version of OpenVPN your running. One thing you must remember is that IPSec does not route, packets must match an IPSec profile and are then that packet is wraped up in an IPSec header and sent

Re: Some recommendations on file locations sought

2006-09-21 Thread John Draper
Jack J. Woehr wrote: On Sep 20, 2006, at 3:11 PM, John Draper wrote: According to the Apache docs (I couldn't find anything in the OpenBSD Site), they recommend I setup the path to the passwd file in /usr/local/apache/passwd Since we're chrooted, how about:

Re: Some recommendations on file locations sought

2006-09-21 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On Sep 21, 2006, at 12:37 PM, John Draper wrote: usr/local/apache/passwd I checked - I don't have a usr directory in my www directory... Am I supposed to create one? Yes, if you use a chroot'ed directory scheme, you just re-create everything from the real directory layout that you

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 11:06 AM 9/21/2006, Bob Beck wrote: * Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-09-21 08:52]: I have seen on two sites a guy complaining about the CD ordering system. Apparently there is no mention of the amount you will actually be paying unless you provide your CC info. This may detract some

Re: Some recommendations on file locations sought

2006-09-21 Thread John Draper
Hi, This finally works... So ignore that last message I first went to conf directory, created an auth directory, and I'm putting it in there. htpasswd -c /var/www/conf/auth/passwd edp # Here is where I set the permissions.. chown root.nogroup /var/www/conf/auth/passwd chmod 640

Re: wi0 / wicontrol issues in 3.9

2006-09-21 Thread Bryan Vyhmeister
I haven't been able to get firmware version 1.8.4 to work right. Lots of timeouts and other errors were present. I have had success with 1.7.4 on a Senao card with my net4511. I also know that 1.5.6 is supposed to work well although I had some issues with 1.5.6 and hostap while 1.7.4 works

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Martin Schröder
2006/9/21, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nope, totals are right at the top of the page. + Shipping. When am I told, how much shipping will cost? At least not before I submit my credit card info. Best Martin

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Gustavo Rios
Since pre-orders are available, it would be interesting to known in which position i am in the queue. Just a suggestion, like in. Order Position: th order received. On 9/21/06, Mike Tancsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:06 AM 9/21/2006, Bob Beck wrote: * Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Bob Beck
BTW, I tried ordering this morning and got a disk full error upon posting. Is it OK to order now ? Yes, but of course you had to post to the list to find out. -Bob

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
2006/9/21, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nope, totals are right at the top of the page. + Shipping. When am I told, how much shipping will cost? At least not before I submit my credit card info. We don't have a shipping pricing system. Those are very finicky prediction systems,

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Steve Tornio
On Sep 21, 2006, at 2:12 PM, Martin Schrvder wrote: 2006/9/21, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nope, totals are right at the top of the page. + Shipping. When am I told, how much shipping will cost? At least not before I submit my credit card info. When it ships, because you are charged

10Gbit network: just curious

2006-09-21 Thread Gustavo Rios
Reading 4.0 release info, i saw it will support 10 GBit/s NIC by means of xge(4) driver. I was wondering which server/desktop machine was it tested on? What about cpu/interrupt load in the system on peak loads? thanks in advance.

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Nico Meijer
Hey Martin, When am I told, how much shipping will cost? At least not before I submit my credit card info. I don't remember reading about any shipping amount EVER when ordering from openbsd.org. I also don't check when my order arrives. I just don't care. H*ll, now you made me check. ;-) It's

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 03:22 PM 9/21/2006, Bob Beck wrote: BTW, I tried ordering this morning and got a disk full error upon posting. Is it OK to order now ? Yes, but of course you had to post to the list to find out. I tried this morning to the contact provided on the web error page with no response

Further: Debugging printfs in OpenBSD lkm module

2006-09-21 Thread Chris 'Xenon' Hanson
Ok, I'm still trying to get some protocol debugging done in Sangoma's PPP implementation for their excellent S518 ADSL card. I have it working under Linux, but something minor but critical seems to be failing under OpenBSD, because they internal PPP never accepts the LCP options offered by my

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread David Terrell
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:23:05PM -0500, Steve Tornio wrote: When it ships, because you are charged the actual shipping cost, as Bob mentioned earlier in this thread. As long as I can remember, it's always been this way, and I've been buying CDs since 2.5. I'm amazed that anyone is

Re: IPSec routing problem when using UDP

2006-09-21 Thread Martín Coco
Yes, my bad. I didn't include any other information because I didn't think it could be version specific. We are using OpenBSD 3.8, and OpenVPN 2.0.6 (from packages). You are right about IPSec not routing. What I meant is how the configured flows are being chosen/matched so that the OS routes the

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Bob Beck
buying CDs since 2.5. I'm amazed that anyone is making an issue of it now. ... because it's fun and gets a reaction. If you have kids you figure this out quickly or go insane. Everyone please just stop feeding the trolls and let the thread die. -Bob -- #!/usr/bin/perl if

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Diana Eichert
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Theo de Raadt wrote: SNIP $30 USD shipping to anywhere in the world. That's what lots of internet retailers do. But no, we don't do that. We instead ask you to trust us that it is in our interest to ship to you using the best shipment method, which is a

Re: OpenBSD 4.0 pre-orders are up

2006-09-21 Thread Andreas Maus
Hi. On 9/20/06, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have activated OpenBSD 4.0 pre-orders. The official release date is November 1. For more information on the release, please see http://www.openbsd.org/40.html And don't forget to order the cute Pluffy:

Brooktree BT878 support?

2006-09-21 Thread Kevin
What is the current status of the Brooktree (bktr) driver and userland applications? I've found the ProVideo PV-143 quad-port BT878 capture cards for about fifty dollars, and would like to use the card with 'fxtv' (from ports) or perhaps danovitschwebcam, all four ports active. I've also found

Re: OpenBSD dedicated hosting

2006-09-21 Thread Sven Wolf
Hi Gilles, I've switched my Strato Power Server (dedicated server - http://www.strato.de/server/power/index.html) from Linux to OpenBSD 3.9. For more information read: http://www.dettus.net/openbsd_at_strato.txt And here is the dmesg of my Power Server: OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #617: Thu Mar

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Han Boetes
Peter wrote: I have seen on two sites a guy complaining about the CD ordering system. Apparently there is no mention of the amount you will actually be paying unless you provide your CC info. This may detract some potential buyers. With google you can find anything. # Han

Re: kernel rebuild - and rebuild userland?

2006-09-21 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 09:55:13AM +0200, Francois Visconte wrote: Hello, I think the real question is : is there allways a backward compatibility of system calls accross patching ? ... I thinks this is mostly de case Jason Dixon wrote: On Sep 20, 2006, at 8:10 PM, Patsy wrote: On

Re: Some recommendations on file locations sought

2006-09-21 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 11:51:17AM -0700, John Draper wrote: Hi, This finally works... So ignore that last message I first went to conf directory, created an auth directory, and I'm putting it in there. htpasswd -c /var/www/conf/auth/passwd edp # Here is where I set the

Re: How do I redirect the daily log messages to another address?

2006-09-21 Thread Andreas Maus
On 9/21/06, Steve B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve. I'd like to redirect the daily log messages that go to root to an external [... snip ...] Could someone point me in the right direction as to what I should be looking for? I'm pretty sure it has to do with Sendmail. Setting up an alias

Re: How do I redirect the daily log messages to another address?

2006-09-21 Thread Terry
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:24:29PM -0700, Steve B wrote: I'd like to redirect the daily log messages that go to root to an external email address. I have searched Google for information but I am just not supplying the right keywords to find a good match. I did find references telling me that

Re: Some recommendations on file locations sought

2006-09-21 Thread John Draper
Jack J. Woehr wrote: On Sep 21, 2006, at 12:37 PM, John Draper wrote: usr/local/apache/passwd I checked - I don't have a usr directory in my www directory... Am I supposed to create one? Yes, if you use a chroot'ed directory scheme, you just re-create everything from the real

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Bertrand CHERRIER
Hi, The only complaint I would made is that OpenBSD is more expensive if you pay it in Euro than in US doll ... Appart from that it's 50 credits no matter what money you use ! Peter a écrit : I have seen on two sites a guy complaining about the CD ordering system. Apparently there is no

Re: OpenBSD dedicated hosting

2006-09-21 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/09/21 22:50, Sven Wolf wrote: wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ^ haven't noticed that before (no drive model listed) - do they have something to hide?!

Re: Some recommendations on file locations sought

2006-09-21 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/09/21 14:53, John Draper wrote: yea I know _ I tried it already, but in the interest of just getting the work done so I can get paid, and since at this time, security is not an issue at this time, but wait! www.webcrunchers.com says, We are starting new projects relating to

Re: How do I redirect the daily log messages to another address?

2006-09-21 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:24:29PM -0700, Steve B wrote: I'd like to redirect the daily log messages that go to root to an external email address. Explanations have already been given on how to redirect all of root's mail to someone else, but in case you really want just the daily log messages

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Peter
--- Diana Eichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Theo de Raadt wrote: SNIP $30 USD shipping to anywhere in the world. That's what lots of internet retailers do. But no, we don't do that. We instead ask you to trust us that it is in our interest to ship to you

OT: 4.0 = happy

2006-09-21 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
http://www.openbsd.org/40.html Every time I go through the release notes I can't help but squirm with happiness in my seat. The progress is always impressive and out of so many other OSS projects that stagnate and undergo questionable changes of one kind or another, I can always look forward to

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Diana Eichert
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Peter wrote: SNIP As is common, the thread has degenerated after being massaged by the fanboys with all sorts of witty and knee-slapping phrases. My post was to alert those in charge of the ordering system that the system in its current state may be causing some potential

OpenBSD 4 question

2006-09-21 Thread Bertrand CHERRIER
Greetings, Will OpenBSD 4.0 for amd64 include the twe driver on the boot kernel ? (It is included in the 3.9 for i386 but not for amd64) Thanks -- Bertrand CHERRIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] MICRO LOGIC SYSTEMS http://www.mls.nc Vente maintenance réseaux Informatique Fournisseur de Sensations

Re: OpenBSD 4 question

2006-09-21 Thread Bertrand CHERRIER
Yes ! that's what I was looking for, thanks a lot ! therfore my order is on its way :) Great OS, Great Community, I love it ! Jason Dixon a écrit : On Sep 21, 2006, at 6:57 PM, Bertrand CHERRIER wrote: Greetings, Will OpenBSD 4.0 for amd64 include the twe driver on the boot kernel ? (It is

em driver on Nexcom NSA1108

2006-09-21 Thread Darrian Hale
Hello all, I'm having trouble getting openbsd to recognize the ports on this box. http://www.nexcom.com/product/productlist.jsp?iid=Network%20Security%20Appliance i've looked at the code, but the problem is definitely over my head. Any help would be appreciated. Below is a dmesg with some

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread riwanlky
It's fine with me. I had ordered 3.8, 3.9 and just order 4.0 At 01:22 PM 9/21/2006 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: 2006/9/21, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nope, totals are right at the top of the page. + Shipping. When am I told, how much shipping will cost? At least not before I submit

Re: trying to build mod_python on OpenBSD

2006-09-21 Thread edgar mortiz
tony what version of openbsd r u using? can you send me a pkg_info list so i can see what packages you have installed on your box as well as the exact versions for python, mod_python and apache your using. -eD On 9/21/06, tony sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I run mod_python on a few

Re: OT: 4.0 = happy

2006-09-21 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:25:43PM -0700, Spruell, Darren-Perot wrote: Every time I go through the release notes I can't help but squirm with happiness in my seat. Miod's jump scroll on macppc and zaurus is not yet mentioned ;-) Ciao, Kili -- signature intentionally left blank

Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders

2006-09-21 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
repent! top poster! this thread is so off topic i crapped my pants. Original message Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:03:10 +0700 From: riwanlky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: hearing complaints regarding pre-orders To: Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Schrvder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: 4.0 = happy

2006-09-21 Thread Greg Thomas
On 9/21/06, Spruell, Darren-Perot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.openbsd.org/40.html Every time I go through the release notes I can't help but squirm with happiness in my seat. The progress is always impressive and out of so many other OSS projects that stagnate and undergo questionable

upgrading without physical access

2006-09-21 Thread Pierre-Yves Ritschard
Hi list, I have a machine running OpenBSD 3.6 on a remote location that I would like to upgrade. I only have ssh access unless I buy myself an expensive plane ticket. I wondered if there's a safe way to upgrade remotely or should I just wait until I get an opportunity to be in front of the