* Charles Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-13 23:46]:
yes,that is the result of games carp plays with routes (which it
shouldn not, imo, but anyway). it should finally work as advertised in
-current even with unnumbered carpdevs.
Hi Henning,
Updating to -current did the trick. Thanks
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 05:02:45AM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
Hey, we could all use the same arguments and call OpenBSD hypocritical:
say no to blobs (it's even on the nvidia-wallpaper!) but say yes to
libflashplayer.so (which is of course secure because it's obscure, but
more than that
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Hell, the OpenBSD ports tree should perhaps contain patches which
REMOVE such commercial operating system support. That's a fork
Richard would surely approve of.
Richard, your pants are full of hypocritical poo.
I have no
* Mats Erik Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-13 02:28]:
having spent most of the evening to understand why
my kernel build suddenly aborted compilation with
a pointer to a missing call rt_mpath_next, I found
that the option SMALL_KERNEL clashes with
pseudo-device pf 1, and that this was
Mathieu Stumpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I disagree.
A complex interface implies a lot of code. a lot of code
leads to unreliablity, either through bugs or detracting valuable
developer time from more important things
A simple interface (well designed) imples less
You said Real men don't attack straw men. Yet this is *EXACTLY* what
you are now doing. You continue to repeatedly write that OpenBSD
recommends the ports system to its users, *which it does not*. Let me
say that once again: OpenBSD recommends that EVERYBODY USE PACKAGES,
NOT
David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Hell, the OpenBSD ports tree should perhaps contain patches which
REMOVE such commercial operating system support. That's a fork
Richard would surely approve of.
Richard, your pants are full of hypocritical poo.
I have no doubt that in some context
It also seems silly to me this idea between tainted and clean
oses, such as Open and gNewSense, respectively. Take for example
a user that runs Ubuntu [GNU/]Linux but proscribes to your free-only
philosophy. They don't have to install the adobe flash plugin
(which I believe
Richard Stallman a icrit :
I have no obligation to answer each and every message that people
post, or address every issue anyone else raises. Some issues don't
seem to need answers.
There is a difference between I have no obligation to answer each and
every message and I cannot find a
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 04:10:39PM -0500, Jason Beaudoin wrote:
On Dec 13, 2007 1:05 PM, Raimo Niskanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 01:07:17PM +, Jonathan Thornburg wrote:
First, I'd like to thank those who provided useful responces to my
query (which started this
Edd Barrett wrote:
How do you browse the web?
emacs?
Hi Richard,
On 14/12/2007, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I would also like you to answer my emails, especially this one:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=119741909911558w=2
I have no obligation to answer each and every message that people
post, or address every issue
Gilbert, Douglas,
swap encryption on OpenBSD is done different than what you
advise. just use a sysctl for vm.swapencrypt.enable. Much less
maintenance headaches.
an yes, don't complain about being reminded that this is not a
netbsd / linux support list.
--knitti
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 01:02:42PM +0100, knitti wrote:
Gilbert, Douglas,
swap encryption on OpenBSD is done different than what you
advise. just use a sysctl for vm.swapencrypt.enable. Much less
maintenance headaches.
besides, since a few releases it has been enabled by default.
On Dec 13, 2007, at 11:18 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
snip
It is completely irrelevant to Stallman whether the OS he endorses is
actually useful. In his world view, his definition of free trumps
functional.
It is always possible to improve the quality of something, it is
may not
be
On Dec 14, 2007 9:09 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have turrets or aspergers or some other reason why you are
compelled to insult virtually everyone ?
Wow, now we're taking potshots at the handicapped. There goes that
fluffy PC do-gooder image then.
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Richard Stallman wrote:
It also seems silly to me this idea between tainted and clean
oses, such as Open and gNewSense, respectively. Take for example
a user that runs Ubuntu [GNU/]Linux but proscribes to your free-only
philosophy. They don't have to
Sorry, back to list, public debate.
On Dec 14, 2007 11:51 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
michael hamerski wrote:
In
other words, a society in which non-free software more or less doesn't
exist.
And there you go denying non-free software, by your definition, the
michael hamerski schrieb:
Nah, it's too much fun... seriously though, even though ultimately
pointless, I think it's a worthy public debate. Let him expound his
theories and ethics and let's dissect them layer by layer. For the
record.
Wise remark :-)
--
Michael Schmidt MIRRORS:
David:
The OpenBSD position is best expressed in this rather rude statement:
Shut up and code. RMS is a philosopher of the evangelical sort. Folks
here are a bit more pragmatic and want to code. A lot of us are infuriated
by this discussion.
You suggested that Theo might have Asbergers. As
David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
I am not out to get you. Richard is not out to get you. The FSF is
not out to get you. The world is not out to get you. But you appear to
Again, Richard made foul and faulty comments about OpenBSD first.
Richard then came to the OpenBSD mailing lists looking
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:09:46 -0500, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
It also seems silly to me this idea between tainted and clean
oses, such as Open and gNewSense, respectively. Take for example
a user that runs Ubuntu [GNU/]Linux but proscribes to your free-only
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 11:37:02PM +1100, Damien Miller wrote:
This incredibly misguided. People won't switch to free software
because of hectoring and hamfisted attempts to frustrate their
choices, but they instantly switch when free software becomes a
compelling replacement - look at Apache
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Richard Stallman wrote:
You said Real men don't attack straw men. Yet this is *EXACTLY* what
you are now doing. You continue to repeatedly write that OpenBSD
recommends the ports system to its users, *which it does not*. Let me
say that once again: OpenBSD
Richard, you're being cc'ed because people speak in your name.
On Dec 14, 2007 9:35 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
michael hamerski wrote:
I think it's a worthy public debate. Let him expound his
theories and ethics and let's dissect them layer by layer. For the
record.
On Dec 14, 2007 10:45 AM, Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's not that clear if it is, at least on the version of OpenBSD 4.2 I
have. It's very much a plain vanilla setup however, /etc/sysctl.conf says:
#vm.swapencrypt.enable=0 # 0=Do not encrypt pages that go to swap
To me that
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Yet on Richard's side of this fence, emacs and gcc _directly
include_ code which lets users use those two pieces of software
on commercial operating systems.
He facilitates using something good on something bad, which helps
end users realize that open source products can
Why Stallman comes here? I am not going to all mailing of different
operating systems that I don't like, saying you're shit, use my OS (ah,
no, RMS didn't write a code in the last 12 years?).
Anyway you're insulting us, telling what I should use or not, I don't need a
mentor to tell me nothing
Users who can no invest the effort learn enough to use a
simple interface do not deserve a reliable operating system. They
deserve windows, and they deserve pop up buttong in their browsers
that they click ok blindly for everything.
I couldn't agree more, people expect that they will
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 05:45:11PM +0200, Lars Nood??n wrote:
Otto Moerbeek wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 01:02:42PM +0100, knitti wrote:
Gilbert, Douglas,
swap encryption on OpenBSD is done different than what you
advise. just use a sysctl for vm.swapencrypt.enable. Much less
If the confusion regarding whether such a flash player exists at all:
http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20070907181228
--
Karthik
http://guilt.bafsoft.net
How interesting,... *NOT*
Flash is about the worst thing that has ever happened to the internet.
I as a user do not use so what is your point again? Who cares that it
is in ports? I certainly don't. Why would I care if someone wants to
see ads shooting at them when they visit a site? Good for
Otto Moerbeek wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 01:02:42PM +0100, knitti wrote:
Gilbert, Douglas,
swap encryption on OpenBSD is done different than what you
advise. just use a sysctl for vm.swapencrypt.enable. Much less
maintenance headaches.
besides, since a few releases it has been
On Dec 14, 2007 5:09 AM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I would also like you to answer my emails, especially this one:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=119741909911558w=2
However, because of your offer, I will send mail to try to find the
message that URL refers to, and
Sorry Karthik but I prefer to keep misc@ cc-ed as it is archived and
people will later be able to know that you are a troll when they do a
lookup about you.
The page you are refering to mentions three new ports. If you had spent
your time doing something as productive as reading the faq instead
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:35:57 +0530, Karthik Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
If the confusion regarding whether such a flash player exists at all:
http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20070907181228
Yes, of course it exists. But you stated that OpenBSD includes it.
It does not. It is not
If OpenBSD is a force field/bubble and richard stallman entered into it..
The bubble would be contaminated and the whole biosphere would have to be
shut down and re-built in a new clean environment that's why... Just because
some asshole with a God complex
No. Nothing begs the question of what
Who cares? Opera is also in pots, who cares? I am sure we have more of
those things in there. It's exactly the same as having windows binaries
for emacs. Not interesting.
This is a non argument.
Stop lying and we'll stop telling you that you are a hypocrite.
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at
Bret Lambert wrote:
...
The fact that you have to *change* a setting to get it to *not* encrypt
swap should be a strong indicator that the default is to do so.
Yes. That's what I wrote: according to sysctl, encryption is enabled by
default. But the examples in /etc/sysctl.conf are set up the
-
This is a reply to David's email to me. I have left out his original
message since it was sent privately and without permission to repost to
the list.
-
This is all I have left to say on the matter. How you take it from here
is up to you.
OpenBSD only endorses OpenBSD. I have
On 12/14/07, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Adobe flash plug-in is non-free software, and people should not
install it, or suggest installing it, or even tell people it exists.
so much for free speech.
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Theo de Raadt wrote:
Richard, you are a total hypocrite. You are in here creating a fuss about
our software, saying it is non-free, when you are doing exactly the same
thing yourself.
Put another way:
The presence of an OpenBSD port entry for opera encourages
On 12 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
It takes me 3 or 4 startx's before I get a KDE screen that looks
normal. When it looks bad, the terminal background is black and other
contrast problems exist. Other times it simply locks up in the middle
of starting up.
Has any one else had
I would like to apologize for my early post to this topic, I was extremely rude
and disrespectful.
Please disregard it.
-Nix Fan.
Orthodoxy is EVIL no matter what god it's in service of.
Oh that's rich coming from OpenBSD land...
Karthik Kumar writes:
If the confusion regarding whether such a flash player exists at all:
http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20070907181228
The irony there is that I stopped working on Gnash (an official
FSF project) for OpenBSD when they added a Windows developer as
a project
Re-adding the original recipients. Please keep this on-list or out of
my mailbox.
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 07:12:46AM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
| Paul de Weerd wrote:
| On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:56:57PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
| | I don't recommend Torvalds' version of Linux. The
I have a question, I'm trying to recompile a flavor of bind but I can't find
the port because its part of the base install.
Could you point me in the right direction on how I would do it ?
I downloaded the bind source and compiled it but obviously the original
version that ships on base should
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 05:48:44PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
http://www.openbsd.org/4.2_packages/i386/zangband-2.6.2p1.tgz-long.html
According to Sourceforge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/zangband
License: Other/Proprietary License
Bullshit.
If you had gone to the trouble of
On 2007-12-14 18:48, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:54:47AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
Richard, your pants are full of hypocritical poo.
You too.
I still remember cheering when I read
http://monkey.org/openbsd/archive/ports/0108/msg00460.html
* From:
I'm sure i installed the install42.iso from december 6th , maybe there was
something wrong
on that image?
I'll try burning the newest one
Thanks!
- Original Message -
From: Jason George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: misc@openbsd.org
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: Intel
* Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-13 21:46]:
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 08:22:07PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
When I read that, it sounded a lot to me like saying if you're not a
skilled medical practitioner, you don't deserve decent health care.
Seems to me one of the
Yes you being coppied come quick and install your GNU licence on us before
it escapes you.
Come oh dilbert of gnu, stamp your licence upon all who code. Propegate your
gnu legacy through the universe down to the plank scale. Install your agenda
near and far. Come and spread the evangalistic word.
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:54:47AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
Richard, your pants are full of hypocritical poo.
You too.
I still remember cheering when I read
http://monkey.org/openbsd/archive/ports/0108/msg00460.html
* From: Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001
People have been suggesting to me that I keep kernel and world in
sync, and by all means MAKEDEV agp0.But I have always had
/dev/agp0 and I assume it was regenerated when I MAKEDEV all a
couple of days ago. I installed my snapshot right before the remake
config warning, and been cvsup'ing
* Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-14 21:35:57]:
If the confusion regarding whether such a flash player exists at all:
http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20070907181228
--
Karthik
http://guilt.bafsoft.net
What's your point? Of course it exists... this is Open BSD
On Dec 14, 2007 5:43 PM, Breen Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-
This is a reply to David's email to me. I have left out his original
message since it was sent privately and without permission to repost to
the list.
-
Yeah, I have a bunch of emails from him, which despite my best
On Dec 13, 2007 7:39 PM, Jeremy Huiskamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Users who can no invest the effort learn enough to use a simple
interface do not deserve a reliable operating system. They deserve
windows,
and they deserve pop up buttong in their browsers that they click
ok blindly
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:54:47AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
Richard, your pants are full of hypocritical poo.
You too.
I still remember cheering when I read
http://monkey.org/openbsd/archive/ports/0108/msg00460.html
* From: Theo de Raadt [EMAIL
Michael Spratt wrote:
I have a question, I'm trying to recompile a flavor of bind but I can't find
the port because its part of the base install.
Could you point me in the right direction on how I would do it ?
I downloaded the bind source and compiled it but obviously the original
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
You too.
I still remember cheering when I read
http://monkey.org/openbsd/archive/ports/0108/msg00460.html
* From: Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:11:00 -0600
* Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am just curious -
OpenBSD developers,
In recognition of all the bullshit flying around recently on misc@, I
would like to offer to mail my copy of of the essay /On Bullshit/ by
Harry Frankfurt as a gift to the first OpenBSD developer to request it.
This essay is bound in a blue hardcover 4 x 6 (10cm x 15cm)
On 12/14/07, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am just curious - why exactly were all the DJB ports dropped?
Precisely because of what the commit message says:
Removed qmail; license does not permit modification [camield
2001-08-14]
Sadly you're too quick to
Along with Godwin's law, there must be some rule of flame fests that people
forget
how it started or fail to note when they make ridiculous statements.
Example, how it started. Some recent comments:
RMS made statements first. RMS will pay for his lies.
Nobody here asked for or WANTS his
Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like security on a lot of
systems is trying to play catch-up with the latest patches.
I I have an enemy, that is exactly where I want him.
Seems like long ago OBSD tended to have fixed the latest whatever
about 6 months before everybody else woke up
misc, Richard:
As someone from a relatively outside perspective, I find this
thread puzzling. My feelings have swung from one side to the
other as the thread has surged on. I just don't know the
players well enough to draw a firm conclusion.
The nub of the perceived slight is this: RMS can't
On Dec 14, 2007 8:33 AM, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/14/07, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Adobe flash plug-in is non-free software, and people should not
install it, or suggest installing it, or even tell people it exists.
so much for free speech.
I think
Man, that's the best thing I've got on misc@ in the last two or three days.
On 12/14/07, Breen Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
For everyone else, we are all lucky enough to be able to access the full
text at the following link:
I've been trying for a couple of years to get going a modified version
of Firefox that won't offer to install any non-free plug-ins, but we
don't have enough people to make this work very well. If you would
like to help, please let me know. It is an important project.
One last question..
Aaron Glenn wrote:
On Dec 14, 2007 8:33 AM, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/14/07, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Adobe flash plug-in is non-free software, and people should not
install it, or suggest installing it, or even tell people it exists.
so much for free
Me! Me! Ship it to my address:
51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor
Boston, MA 02110-1301
USA
-Bob
* Breen Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-14 13:02]:
OpenBSD developers,
In recognition of all the bullshit flying around recently on misc@, I
would like to offer to mail my
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:54:47AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
Richard, your pants are full of hypocritical poo.
You too.
I still remember cheering when I read
http://monkey.org/openbsd/archive/ports/0108/msg00460.html
* From: Theo de Raadt [EMAIL
On Dec 14, 2007 8:16 PM, Breen Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OpenBSD developers,
In recognition of all the bullshit flying around recently on misc@, I
would like to offer to mail my copy of of the essay /On Bullshit/ by
Harry Frankfurt as a gift to the first OpenBSD developer to request
It's total BS. If you don't want to pay for software, fine don't, but
don't go on some religious crusade trying to get me to believe it's
unethical so I won't either.
When you buy a copy of a non-free program, you pay with your money and
with your freedom. You apparently don't assign
An anthology contains the actual licensed material of the books. The ports
tree only contains urls of these pieces of software you object to.
You're right, but I don't think that difference matters for this
issue. Giving just the URLs for non-free software is referring people
to them.
running non-GPL-covered software? Not I. I frequently run OpenSSH,
whose license is not the GNU GPL, and is incompatible with the GPL (if
my memory serves).
Richard,
please stop spreading lies (or looking like a fool) by not doing research.
The license of OpenSSH is
It's yours Bob. Given the address you've posted, I imagine that you
might want me to send it in care of someone with the initials RMS?
Breeno
Bob Beck wrote:
Me! Me! Ship it to my address:
51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor
Boston, MA 02110-1301
USA
-Bob
* Breen Ouellette [EMAIL
Since both emacs and gcc contain code inside them which permit them to
compile and run on commercial operating systems which are non-free,
you are a slimy hypocrite.
I see you are being your usual friendly self ;-}.
There is a big practical difference between making a free system
If OpenBSD could spin off the ports system (perhaps people could put
it on the Pirate Bay), and break off connection with it, then it would
cease to convey any message from OpenBSD to the users. Then I could
recommend OpenBSD while not recommending its ports system.
Why is it so hard for you to answer that question...
To answer the question was not hard. To answer it before I saw it
would have been very hard.
You failed to answer these several times already,
When you said that, it was 21:00 here. At that time I had not even
seen any of those
However, if distribution D includes this easier way to install in
its ports system, by doing so distribution D endorses it and takes on
the ethical responsibility for it.
We all know that the linux kernel (on which gNewSense is based) has an easy
way to install binary blobs,
Nice one there Bob!
On 12/14/07, Bob Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Me! Me! Ship it to my address:
51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor
Boston, MA 02110-1301
USA
-Bob
* Breen Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-14 13:02]:
OpenBSD developers,
In recognition of all the
So have you sent these types of unrecommendations to other OS'
mailing lists or just OpenBSD's?
I generally don't raise the issue, and I did not raise it this time.
I did not start this discussion. I posted on this list because people
were making inaccurate statements about my views.
In
other words, a society in which non-free software more or less doesn't
exist.
And there you go denying non-free software, by your definition, the
very right to exist. How free is that?
It is much freer than a world in which non-free programs entice many
people into
I should more precisely have said that the OpenBSD ports system
includes instructions for fetching, building and installing specific
non-free programs.
Yes, that would be the truth. What you did say, however,
is not the truth.
What I said was the same thing, in
I should more precisely have said that the OpenBSD ports system
includes instructions for fetching, building and installing specific
non-free programs.
Yes, that would be the truth. What you did say, however,
is not the truth.
What I said was the same thing, in different
If he really hated what we do, he should stop using OpenSSH. He says
he uses it. He should not. We are horrible people; he should not use
our software.
I don't hate what you do. I don't hate OpenBSD. I have a specific
criticism of one point about OpenBSD, but that is not hatred.
This philosophy disturbs me, and reminds me of the rationale for
censorship in dictatorships and police states. Admitting the
existence of something even referencing it does not give it
legitimacy. Should we remove any reference to nazi germany from our
history
RMS wrote:
I've been trying for a couple of years to get going a modified version
of Firefox that won't offer to install any non-free plug-ins, but we
don't have enough people to make this work very well. If you would
like to help, please let me know. It is an important project.
Hahaha!!!
You *can't relicense* code under your choice without the author consent
period!
That BSD license gives permission for almost any kind of use,
including distributing the code under other licenses. The only
requirement is not to remove the BSD license statement itself.
Another message
* Bob Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071214 15:51]:
Me! Me! Ship it to my address:
51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor
Boston, MA 02110-1301
USA
-Bob
* Breen Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-14 13:02]:
OpenBSD developers,
In recognition of all the bullshit flying around
Oh, and by the way, I'm not a real man.
Actually I'm not a man at all.
Not all people who are in software are men.
I've contributed in small ways to OpenBSD, FreeBSD, Linux
and Plan9.
--- Marina Brown
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Richard Stallman wrote:
An anthology contains the actual
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:19:06 -0600, Ken Ismert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
So, I ask you respectfully, Richard: what is your intent in
making your original comments, and starting this thread?
That would be the deciding factor for me.
Self aggrandizement has been RMS's only agenda for a long time.
I think the newest install42.iso is also wrong.
I open the .iso and the files inside have old dates (november 20 2007, and
november 13
2007)
I'll make my own .iso with the rest of the files from the i386 snapshot
directory
Regards,
- Original Message -
From: Marcos Laufer [EMAIL
| I don't recommend Torvalds' version of Linux. The versions of Linux
| in Ututo and gNewSense, which I recommend, do not have the blobs.
Interesting, these linux distributions.
They are GNU/Linux distributions. (See
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html.)
What puzzles me is why you think this mistake was a lie, or that it
might make me look like a fool. People normally don't call someone
a liar, or a fool, because of a little (and tangential) mistake like
this.
Because someone in your position, with the influence you have,
communicating these
And for all those people who keep trying to say that OpenBSD doesn't
support ports - we do. If we put it out, that's the support already.
But - seriously, as a project, do we need the validation from
FSF/Richard?
OpenBSD certainly doesn't need my permission for anything.
If
Heh. I think we're having far too much fun in the other threads. I
have a serious question. I'm a mangler in a largish company. We have
developers, and contractors. No coding standards and all that, so,
things are... messy.
I'm not in charge of development, but I want to help them develop
On 12/14/07, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
People already know about non-free systems such as Windows, so it is
unlikely that the mention of them in a free package will tell them
about a system and they will then switch to it. Also, switching
operating systems is a big deal.
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 03:50:41PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
Why is it so hard for you to answer that question...
To answer the question was not hard. To answer it before I saw it
would have been very hard.
You failed to answer these several times already,
When you said
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