Re: laptop suspend and battery runs dry

2009-08-25 Thread David Vasek

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009, Chris wrote:


On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:54 PM, L. V. Lammertl...@omnitec.net wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Chris wrote:


I have an IBM T41 that runs current snapshot. I put it in suspend mode
with apm -z or zzz but when I wake the system, the battery runs dry.
Is there any way to avoid this other than turning off the the system
completely and turning it back on again?

Thanks.


Check out the difference between suspend  hibernate; suspend uses battery
power to maintain memory state for a quicker restore, hibernate flushes
memory to disk and uses no battery power.


Is there any way to hibernate the box instead of suspending it with
apm -z or zzz?


You have to create a hibernation fdisk partition on your disk and use 
tphdisk utility from ports to create a hibernation file there. Whole 
procedure is described in the built-in help in the utility.


When you are finished, just press Fn-F12. Whether there is any way to 
start hibernation from software is still an unresolved question to me.


Also, bear in mind that hibernation writes all your RAM contents to disk 
unencrypted, making swap and any disk encryption pointless.


Regards,
David



Re: Presentation tool

2009-08-25 Thread Zhan
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Predrag
Punosevacpunoseva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a presentation coming up, and I would like to use my OpenBSD laptop 
 for it. \
 What is the recommended application for a slides driven presentation?

 Thanks

 LaTeX/Powerdot beats the crap out of Beamer. The manual is only
 50 pages unlike Beemer which is 400 and some pages.
 It is contained in TeXLive

 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/powerdot/

 Cheers,
 Predrag


hey,

Wow, a nice package that I have never heard of. Looks great and simple
enough to pick up.


-- 
Thanks and regards,

Zhan



Re: Presentation tool

2009-08-25 Thread Matthieu Herrb
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Zhanz...@games.com wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Predrag
 Punosevacpunoseva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a presentation coming up, and I would like to use my OpenBSD laptop 
 for it. \
 What is the recommended application for a slides driven presentation?

 Thanks

 LaTeX/Powerdot beats the crap out of Beamer. The manual is only
 50 pages unlike Beemer which is 400 and some pages.
 It is contained in TeXLive

 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/powerdot/

 Cheers,
 Predrag


 hey,

 Wow, a nice package that I have never heard of. Looks great and simple
 enough to pick up.


Also, have a look at Impressive! (productivity/impressive), a nice
tool to display the PDF file produced by latex. It has functions to
highlight or zoom some parts of your slides while you're talking.

-- 
Matthieu Herrb



Re: Presentation tool

2009-08-25 Thread Mr Man
okay you win :)




From: Predrag Punosevac punoseva...@gmail.com
To: bitmas...@ymail.com; misc@openbsd.org
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 9:16:56 PM
Subject: Re: Presentation tool

 Hi,

 I have a presentation coming up, and I would like to use my OpenBSD laptop 
 for it. \
 What is the recommended application for a slides driven presentation?

 Thanks

LaTeX/Powerdot beats the crap out of Beamer. The manual is only
50 pages unlike Beemer which is 400 and some pages.
It is contained in TeXLive 

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/powerdot/

Cheers,
Predrag



drmvblq with productivity/impressive (was Re: Presentation tool)

2009-08-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-08-25, Matthieu Herrb mhe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, have a look at Impressive! (productivity/impressive), a nice
 tool to display the PDF file produced by latex. It has functions to
 highlight or zoom some parts of your slides while you're talking.


This is getting stuck in drmvblq during page transitions on my
amd64 system with 945GM. Within about 2 or 3 page changes it will
sit in this state for about a minute before normal operation
resumes.

I used to see a similar thing with Hugin's accelerated preview window
but the last Intel driver update fixed that.

OpenBSD 4.6-current (GENERIC) #93: Wed Aug  5 15:38:41 MDT 2009
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz, 2000.40 MHz
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 (irq 11)
drm0 at inteldrm0
Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
snip

full dmesg at http://spacehopper.org/tmp/i945.dmesg
http://spacehopper.org/tmp/i945.Xorg.0.log



trac-0.10.5p0 segfaults on 4.5 release

2009-08-25 Thread Olivier Mehani
Hello,

I've installed package trac-0.10.5p0 on OpenBSD 4.5 RELEASE. I'm
managing several projects and starting it (in a screen for debugging
purposes) as follows:

sudo -u _trac tracd  -p 8080 --basic-auth=*,/srv/www/.htpasswd, -e
/srv/trac

The problem is that it always eventually segfaults for reasons I can't
quite work out (maybe a client disconnecting too fast?):


127.0.0.1 - - [24/Aug/2009 22:36:14] GET
/4gcube-packages/browser/libogg?order=size HTTP/1.1 200 -

Exception happened during processing of request from ('127.0.0.1', 4214)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 464, in
process_request_thread
self.finish_request(request, client_address)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 254, in
finish_request
self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 522, in __init__
self.handle()
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/BaseHTTPServer.py, line 316, in handle
self.handle_one_request()
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line 174, in
handle_one_request
gateway.run(self.server.application)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line 87, in
run
response = application(self.environ, self._start_response)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/standalone.py, line
56, in __call__
return self.application(environ, start_response)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/standalone.py, line
88, in __call__
return self.application(environ, start_response)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 440, in
dispatch_request
req.send_error(sys.exc_info(), status=500)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/api.py, line 394, in
send_error
exc_info)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 406, in
dispatch_request
dispatcher.dispatch(req)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 244, in
dispatch
req.display(template, content_type or 'text/html')
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/api.py, line 368, in
display
self.write(data)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/api.py, line 460, in
write
self._write(data)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line 195, in
_write
self.handler.send_response(int(status[:3]))
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/BaseHTTPServer.py, line 370, in
send_response
self.send_header('Server', self.version_string())
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/BaseHTTPServer.py, line 376, in send_header
self.wfile.write(%s: %s\r\n % (keyword, value))
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/socket.py, line 274, in write
self.flush()
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/socket.py, line 261, in flush
self._sock.sendall(buffer)
error: (32, 'Broken pipe')

127.0.0.1 - - [24/Aug/2009 22:36:16] GET
/chalmers/browser/trunk/ec/home_problems?rev=83order=size HTTP/1.1 200 -

Exception happened during processing of request from ('127.0.0.1', 14693)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 464, in
process_request_thread
self.finish_request(request, client_address)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 254, in
finish_request
self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/SocketServer.py, line 522, in __init__
self.handle()
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/BaseHTTPServer.py, line 316, in handle
self.handle_one_request()
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line 174, in
handle_one_request
gateway.run(self.server.application)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/wsgi.py, line 87, in
run
response = application(self.environ, self._start_response)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/standalone.py, line
56, in __call__
return self.application(environ, start_response)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/standalone.py, line
88, in __call__
return self.application(environ, start_response)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 440, in
dispatch_request
req.send_error(sys.exc_info(), status=500)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/api.py, line 394, in
send_error
exc_info)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 406, in
dispatch_request
dispatcher.dispatch(req)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/main.py, line 244, in
dispatch
req.display(template, content_type or 'text/html')
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/api.py, line 368, in
display
self.write(data)
  File 

Re: Multiboot OpenBSD with Vista

2009-08-25 Thread Lars Nooden
You can probably run vista natively on OpenBSD depending on the version.
OpenVista and WorldVista are quite similar, but FOIA Vista will take
more tweaking.  Otherwise, install OpenBSD first and then, second, your
favorite linux flavor and work from that, grub is usually good about
finding OpenBSD.  If you go that route, then the Astronaut installer
is the easiest.

The main hurdle for running vista natively on openbsd is the M (aka
MUMPS aka ANSI/MDC X11.1-1995) database engine.  Most are built around
GT.M [2], but that takes a little cleverness to port to OpenBSD.  MV1
[3] compiles with little adjustment on OpenBSD, but then Vista must be
tweaked.  A third option is MDH[4], which takes the MUMPS database
instructions and converts them to C, but that probably requires more
adjustment to vista itself.

There are fairly well documented APIs for working with vista, such as
for a Java front-end [5] and the whole system is exceedingly
well-documented. e.g.
 ftp://ftp.va.gov/vista/Software/Package%20Domain%20Info/ERdiagrams/

Regards,
-Lars

[1]  MUMPS/M : ANSI/MDC X11.1-1995 :: SQL : ISO/IEC 9075-1:2008

[2]  http://sourceforge.net/projects/fis-gtm/

[3]  http://sourceforge.net/projects/mumps/

[4]  http://math-cs.cns.uni.edu/~okane/mumps.html

[5]  http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtm4j/



calendar typo?

2009-08-25 Thread frantisek holop
hi there,

Aug 25  Constitution Day in Paragual

shouldn't that be Paraguai?

-f
-- 
life is like... an analogy.



net-snmptrapd problem with traps from OpenSNMPD

2009-08-25 Thread Sebastian Benoit
Hi,

i am trying to receive snmp traps generated by relayd and send via snmpd to
a host running net-snmp snmptrapd.

there i only get the error

  Cannot find TrapOID in TRAP2 PDU

config:

# OpenBSD 4.5 snmpd.conf: -
listen_addr=127.0.0.1

# Restrict daemon to listen on localhost only
listen on $listen_addr

# Specify a number of trap receivers
trap receiver linuxsnmpserver
#trap receiver localhost
trap community secret

# Adjust the local system information
system contact foo
system description Powered by OpenBSD
system location just here
system services 74
#  ends -

# --- net-snmp snmptrapd.conf: --
authCommunity log,execute secret
traphandle default /usr/sbin/snmptrapfmthdlr
#  ends -

i tried with snmptrapd versions

NET-SNMP version 5.4.2.1  (on OpenBSD)
NET-SNMP version 5.4.1(on Linux)

both with the same result:

  snmptrapd[1360]: truncating signed value to 32 bits (1)
  snmptrapd[1360]: Cannot find TrapOID in TRAP2 PDU

when started with debugging output 

the result of a relayd host down event looks like this:

# snmptrapd -f -Le -d 127.0.0.1
NET-SNMP version 5.4.2.1

Received 267 bytes from UDP: [127.0.0.1]:35951-[0.0.0.0]
: 30 82 01 07  02 01 01 04  06 73 65 63  72 65 74 A70secret'
0016: 81 F9 02 04  C2 26 31 6E  02 01 00 02  01 00 30 81.y..B1n..0.
0032: EA 30 0D 06  07 2B 06 01  02 01 01 03  43 02 0E 96j0...+..C...
0048: 30 17 06 09  2B 06 01 06  03 01 01 04  01 06 0A 2B0...+..+
0064: 06 01 04 01  81 EB 4B 03  01 30 1B 06  0B 2B 06 01.kK..0...+..
0080: 04 01 81 EB  4B 03 01 01  04 0C 32 31  37 2E 33 31...kK.217.31
0096: 2E 38 37 2E  34 30 30 14  06 0B 2B 06  01 04 01 81.87.400...+.
0112: EB 4B 03 01  02 02 05 00  FF FF FF FF  30 10 06 0BkK..0...
0128: 2B 06 01 04  01 81 EB 4B  03 01 03 02  01 01 30 11+.kK..0.
0144: 06 0B 2B 06  01 04 01 81  EB 4B 03 01  04 02 02 04..+.kK..
0160: A7 30 11 06  0B 2B 06 01  04 01 81 EB  4B 03 01 05'0...+.kK...
0176: 02 02 08 56  30 1F 06 0B  2B 06 01 04  01 81 EB 4B...V0...+.kK
0192: 03 01 06 04  10 61 73 5F  70 72 6F 64  5F 68 6F 73.as_prod_hos
0208: 74 73 3A 38  30 30 10 06  0B 2B 06 01  04 01 81 EBts:800...+.k
0224: 4B 03 01 07  02 01 00 30  10 06 0B 2B  06 01 04 01K..0...+
0240: 81 EB 4B 03  01 08 02 01  02 30 10 06  0B 2B 06 01.kK..0...+..
0256: 04 01 81 EB  4B 03 01 09  02 01 02...kK..

Cannot find TrapOID in TRAP2 PDU

The snmptrapd can receive traps generated with the Net-SNMP snmptrap
programme:

 snmptrap -v 2c -c secret localhost  OPENBSD-BASE-MIB::localTest \
 SNMPv2-MIB::sysLocation.0 s Just here

result:

Received 95 bytes from UDP: [127.0.0.1]:40091-[0.0.0.0]
: 30 5D 02 01  01 04 06 73  65 63 72 65  74 A7 50 020].secret'P.
0016: 04 69 62 E6  65 02 01 00  02 01 00 30  42 30 10 06.ibfe..0B0..
0032: 08 2B 06 01  02 01 01 03  00 43 04 06  0C 07 AC 30.+...C,0
0048: 17 06 0A 2B  06 01 06 03  01 01 04 01  00 06 09 2B...+...+
0064: 06 01 04 01  81 EB 4B 2A  30 15 06 08  2B 06 01 02.kK*0...+...
0080: 01 01 06 00  04 09 4A 75  73 74 20 68  65 72 65   ..Just here

2009-08-25 13:58:37 localhost [UDP: [127.0.0.1]:40091-[0.0.0.0]]:
DISMAN-EVENT-MIB::sysUpTimeInstance = Timeticks: (101451692) 11 days,
17:48:36.92   SNMPv2-MIB::snmpTrapOID.0 = OID:
SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.30155.42   SNMPv2-MIB::sysLocation.0 = STRING:
Just here

how can i receive snmp traps from OpenBSD snmpd?

/Benno



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Re: calendar typo?

2009-08-25 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:31:47AM +0200, Igor Sobrado wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:16 AM, frantisek holopmin...@obiit.org wrote:
  hi there,
 
  Aug 25  Constitution Day in Paragual
 
  shouldn't that be Paraguai?
 
 Indeed, it is a typo.  However, is it not a much more usual spelling
 Paraguay?

yes, and i just fixed it.
jmc



FORGET IT: RE: Latest snapshot SHA256 hash does not match files on ftp.openbsd.org

2009-08-25 Thread Didier Wiroth
Forget it ... Sorry for the noise!
Didier 

-Original Message-
From: Didier Wiroth [mailto:didier.wir...@mesr.etat.lu] 
Sent: 25 August 2009 14:58
To: 'misc@openbsd.org'
Subject: Latest snapshot SHA256 hash does not match files on ftp.openbsd.org

Hello,
Did anyone notice that the current files from 
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/
kernels  *.tgz (except the x*.tgz) do not match the SHA256 hashes.

Is that normal or should I worry about it?

Thanks a lot
Didier



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Latest snapshot SHA256 hash does not match files on ftp.openbsd.org

2009-08-25 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hello,
Did anyone notice that the current files from
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/ 
kernels  *.tgz (except the x*.tgz) do not match the SHA256 hashes.

Is that normal or should I worry about it?

Thanks a lot
Didier



Re: Latest snapshot SHA256 hash does not match files on ftp.openbsd.org

2009-08-25 Thread Theo de Raadt
 Did anyone notice that the current files from
 ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/ 
 kernels  *.tgz (except the x*.tgz) do not match the SHA256 hashes.
 
 Is that normal or should I worry about it?

In snapshots, this is normal.  The mirrors will ebb and flow,
and also, there are some subtle problems between how X and base snashots
are put together.



openbsd and ethernet tap (port replication)

2009-08-25 Thread FRLinux
Hello,

I am trying to replicate some traffic from a Cisco 6500 onto an
OpenBSD 4.5 vanilla machine. I have two NICs, rl0 which is the
administration interface and em0 which I hope to use for the ethernet
tap. So far, my cisco replicates traffic happily, i can see the packet
count in/egress increasing but nothing seems to reach em0.

I have no PF running, the box is inside the network with a cable
connected straight from em0 to a cisco port on the 6500. The cisco
router reports the link live (so does OpenBSD) but no traffic seems to
be flowing.

I realize that has to be something stupid but if anyone could send me
a pointer, that would be most welcome.

em0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
lladdr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
priority: 0
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex,rxpause)
status: active

OpenBSD 4.5 (GENERIC) #1749: Sat Feb 28 14:51:18 MST 2009
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3.22 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,CNXT-ID,xTPR
real mem  = 1073246208 (1023MB)
avail mem = 1029500928 (981MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 01/19/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
0xfb1a0, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0120 (49 entries)
bios0: vendor Award Software International, Inc. version F5 date 01/19/2004
bios0: NEC Computers International 000
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC
acpi0: wakeup devices USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) AMR0(S4) UAR1(S4)
UAR2(S4) PCI0(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 14, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 2
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpicpu0 at acpi0
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x8000! 0xd/0x1800 0xd2000/0x1000
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SiS 648 PCI rev 0x51
sisagp0 at pchb0
agp0 at sisagp0: aperture at 0xe000, size 0x800
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SiS 648FX AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
pcib0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 SiS 85C503 System rev 0x14
SiS 7007 FireWire rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 2 function 3 not configured
pciide0 at pci0 dev 2 function 5 SiS 5513 EIDE rev 0x00: 648: DMA,
channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
pciide0: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
wd0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: SAMSUNG SP2014N
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 190782MB, 390721968 sectors
wd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
auich0 at pci0 dev 2 function 7 SiS 7012 AC97 rev 0xa0: apic 2 int
18 (irq 9), SiS7012 AC97
ac97: codec id 0x414c4760 (Avance Logic ALC655 rev 0)
audio0 at auich0
ohci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: apic 2
int 20 (irq 5), version 1.0, legacy support
ohci1 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: apic 2
int 21 (irq 10), version 1.0, legacy support
ohci2 at pci0 dev 3 function 2 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: apic 2
int 22 (irq 11), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 3 SiS 7002 USB rev 0x00: apic 2 int 23 (irq 6)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 SiS EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
vga1 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 S3 Trio32/64 rev 0x54
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
em0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EM) rev 0x02:
apic 2 int 19 (irq 10), address 00:07:e9:39:50:d5
rl0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 Realtek 8139 rev 0x10: apic 2 int 16
(irq 11), address 00:0d:61:1b:69:27
rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
it0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: IT8705F rev 2, EC port 0x290
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 SiS OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 SiS OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at ohci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 SiS OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
uhidev0 at uhub1 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 Sun Microsystems
Type 6 Keyboard rev 1.10/2.00 addr 2
uhidev0: iclass 3/1
ukbd0 at uhidev0: 8 modifier keys, 6 key codes, country code 33
wskbd1 at ukbd0 mux 1
wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0
softraid0 at root
root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b

Cheers,
Steph



Re: calendar typo?

2009-08-25 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009, Igor Sobrado wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:16 AM, frantisek holopmin...@obiit.org wrote:
  hi there,
 
  Aug 25  Constitution Day in Paragual
 
  shouldn't that be Paraguai?
 
 Indeed, it is a typo.  However, is it not a much more usual spelling
 Paraguay?

Right, in english is Paraguay.

--
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Re: openbsd and ethernet tap (port replication)

2009-08-25 Thread FRLinux
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Jason Dixonja...@dixongroup.net wrote:
 $ sudo ifconfig em0 up

Indeed, I'll go back to my cave now. Thanks!
Steph



Authentication method fallback not working

2009-08-25 Thread Ian Chard

Hi,

I'm using OpenBSD 4.5-stable, and I'm trying to configure RADIUS 
authentication.  What I want is for the system to try the RADIUS server, 
and if it fails, fall back to the local password file.  In login.conf I have


auth-defaults:auth=radius,passwd:radius-server=my.radius.server

If the RADIUS server isn't there for whatever reason, the system doesn't 
fallback to password file authentication.  The same happens if I specify 
the methods the other way round: the RADIUS server is never tried even 
if the password-file-based login fails.


I need to make sure that I can always log in even if the RADIUS server 
has gone away.  Is it possible to configure the system in this way?


Thanks
- Ian

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Re: openbsd and ethernet tap (port replication)

2009-08-25 Thread Jason Dixon
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 03:37:55PM +0100, FRLinux wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am trying to replicate some traffic from a Cisco 6500 onto an
 OpenBSD 4.5 vanilla machine. I have two NICs, rl0 which is the
 administration interface and em0 which I hope to use for the ethernet
 tap. So far, my cisco replicates traffic happily, i can see the packet
 count in/egress increasing but nothing seems to reach em0.
 
 I have no PF running, the box is inside the network with a cable
 connected straight from em0 to a cisco port on the 6500. The cisco
 router reports the link live (so does OpenBSD) but no traffic seems to
 be flowing.
 
 I realize that has to be something stupid but if anyone could send me
 a pointer, that would be most welcome.
 
 em0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 lladdr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
 priority: 0
 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex,rxpause)
 status: active

$ sudo ifconfig em0 up

-- 
Jason Dixon
DixonGroup Consulting
http://www.dixongroup.net/



Re: Presentation tool

2009-08-25 Thread Gary Thornock
--- On Mon, 8/24/09, Mr Man bitmas...@ymail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a presentation coming up, and I would like to use my
 OpenBSD laptop for it. What is the recommended application for
 a slides driven presentation?

 Thanks

Another option that works fairly well is s5, together with the
browser of your choice. http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/



Re: openbsd and ethernet tap (port replication)

2009-08-25 Thread Reyk Floeter
ifconfig em0 up

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 03:37:55PM +0100, FRLinux wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am trying to replicate some traffic from a Cisco 6500 onto an
 OpenBSD 4.5 vanilla machine. I have two NICs, rl0 which is the
 administration interface and em0 which I hope to use for the ethernet
 tap. So far, my cisco replicates traffic happily, i can see the packet
 count in/egress increasing but nothing seems to reach em0.
 
 I have no PF running, the box is inside the network with a cable
 connected straight from em0 to a cisco port on the 6500. The cisco
 router reports the link live (so does OpenBSD) but no traffic seems to
 be flowing.
 
 I realize that has to be something stupid but if anyone could send me
 a pointer, that would be most welcome.
 
 em0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 lladdr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
 priority: 0
 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex,rxpause)
 status: active
 
 OpenBSD 4.5 (GENERIC) #1749: Sat Feb 28 14:51:18 MST 2009
 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
 cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3.22 GHz
 cpu0: 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,CNXT-ID,xTPR
 real mem  = 1073246208 (1023MB)
 avail mem = 1029500928 (981MB)
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 01/19/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
 0xfb1a0, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0120 (49 entries)
 bios0: vendor Award Software International, Inc. version F5 date 01/19/2004
 bios0: NEC Computers International 000
 acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC
 acpi0: wakeup devices USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) AMR0(S4) UAR1(S4)
 UAR2(S4) PCI0(S4)
 acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
 acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
 cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
 cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz
 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 14, 24 pins
 ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 2
 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
 acpicpu0 at acpi0
 acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x8000! 0xd/0x1800 0xd2000/0x1000
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SiS 648 PCI rev 0x51
 sisagp0 at pchb0
 agp0 at sisagp0: aperture at 0xe000, size 0x800
 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SiS 648FX AGP rev 0x00
 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
 pcib0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 SiS 85C503 System rev 0x14
 SiS 7007 FireWire rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 2 function 3 not configured
 pciide0 at pci0 dev 2 function 5 SiS 5513 EIDE rev 0x00: 648: DMA,
 channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
 pciide0: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
 wd0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: SAMSUNG SP2014N
 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 190782MB, 390721968 sectors
 wd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
 auich0 at pci0 dev 2 function 7 SiS 7012 AC97 rev 0xa0: apic 2 int
 18 (irq 9), SiS7012 AC97
 ac97: codec id 0x414c4760 (Avance Logic ALC655 rev 0)
 audio0 at auich0
 ohci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: apic 2
 int 20 (irq 5), version 1.0, legacy support
 ohci1 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: apic 2
 int 21 (irq 10), version 1.0, legacy support
 ohci2 at pci0 dev 3 function 2 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: apic 2
 int 22 (irq 11), version 1.0, legacy support
 ehci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 3 SiS 7002 USB rev 0x00: apic 2 int 23 (irq 6)
 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
 uhub0 at usb0 SiS EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
 vga1 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 S3 Trio32/64 rev 0x54
 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 em0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EM) rev 0x02:
 apic 2 int 19 (irq 10), address 00:07:e9:39:50:d5
 rl0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 Realtek 8139 rev 0x10: apic 2 int 16
 (irq 11), address 00:0d:61:1b:69:27
 rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY
 isa0 at pcib0
 isadma0 at isa0
 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
 com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
 pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
 wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
 spkr0 at pcppi0
 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
 it0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: IT8705F rev 2, EC port 0x290
 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
 usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
 uhub1 at usb1 SiS OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
 usb2 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
 uhub2 at usb2 SiS OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
 usb3 at ohci2: USB revision 1.0
 uhub3 at usb3 SiS OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
 uhidev0 at uhub1 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 Sun Microsystems
 Type 6 Keyboard rev 1.10/2.00 addr 2
 uhidev0: iclass 3/1
 ukbd0 at uhidev0: 8 

Re: Presentation tool

2009-08-25 Thread William Boshuck
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 09:47:27PM -0400, STeve Andre' wrote:
 On Monday 24 August 2009 19:58:40 Mr Man wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a presentation coming up, and I would like to use my OpenBSD laptop
  for it. What is the recommended application for a slides driven
  presentation?
 
  Thanks
 
 Magicpoint, in packages.

LaTeX's beamer class is another option (especially if there is
much mathematics in the talk).
-wb



Re: openbsd and ethernet tap (port replication)

2009-08-25 Thread Dag Richards

Put an ip address on  em0.

FRLinux wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to replicate some traffic from a Cisco 6500 onto an
OpenBSD 4.5 vanilla machine. I have two NICs, rl0 which is the
administration interface and em0 which I hope to use for the ethernet
tap. So far, my cisco replicates traffic happily, i can see the packet
count in/egress increasing but nothing seems to reach em0.

I have no PF running, the box is inside the network with a cable
connected straight from em0 to a cisco port on the 6500. The cisco
router reports the link live (so does OpenBSD) but no traffic seems to
be flowing.

I realize that has to be something stupid but if anyone could send me
a pointer, that would be most welcome.

em0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
lladdr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
priority: 0
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex,rxpause)
status: active

OpenBSD 4.5 (GENERIC) #1749: Sat Feb 28 14:51:18 MST 2009
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3.22 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,CNXT-ID,xTPR
real mem  = 1073246208 (1023MB)
avail mem = 1029500928 (981MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 01/19/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
0xfb1a0, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0120 (49 entries)
bios0: vendor Award Software International, Inc. version F5 date 01/19/2004
bios0: NEC Computers International 000
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC
acpi0: wakeup devices USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) AMR0(S4) UAR1(S4)
UAR2(S4) PCI0(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 14, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 2
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpicpu0 at acpi0
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x8000! 0xd/0x1800 0xd2000/0x1000
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SiS 648 PCI rev 0x51
sisagp0 at pchb0
agp0 at sisagp0: aperture at 0xe000, size 0x800
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SiS 648FX AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
pcib0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 SiS 85C503 System rev 0x14
SiS 7007 FireWire rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 2 function 3 not configured
pciide0 at pci0 dev 2 function 5 SiS 5513 EIDE rev 0x00: 648: DMA,
channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
pciide0: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
wd0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: SAMSUNG SP2014N
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 190782MB, 390721968 sectors
wd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
auich0 at pci0 dev 2 function 7 SiS 7012 AC97 rev 0xa0: apic 2 int
18 (irq 9), SiS7012 AC97
ac97: codec id 0x414c4760 (Avance Logic ALC655 rev 0)
audio0 at auich0
ohci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: apic 2
int 20 (irq 5), version 1.0, legacy support
ohci1 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: apic 2
int 21 (irq 10), version 1.0, legacy support
ohci2 at pci0 dev 3 function 2 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: apic 2
int 22 (irq 11), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 3 SiS 7002 USB rev 0x00: apic 2 int 23 (irq 6)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 SiS EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
vga1 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 S3 Trio32/64 rev 0x54
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
em0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EM) rev 0x02:
apic 2 int 19 (irq 10), address 00:07:e9:39:50:d5
rl0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 Realtek 8139 rev 0x10: apic 2 int 16
(irq 11), address 00:0d:61:1b:69:27
rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
it0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: IT8705F rev 2, EC port 0x290
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 SiS OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 SiS OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at ohci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 SiS OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
uhidev0 at uhub1 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 Sun Microsystems
Type 6 Keyboard rev 1.10/2.00 addr 2
uhidev0: iclass 3/1
ukbd0 at uhidev0: 8 modifier keys, 6 key codes, country code 33
wskbd1 at ukbd0 mux 1
wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0
softraid0 at root
root on wd0a swap on 

Re: Wireless USB Adaptor

2009-08-25 Thread Theo de Raadt
 I'm looking for some generic advice to give folks who cannot or
 willnot verify what chipset a wireless usb adapter is using before
 purchase. What do you guys say to people who do not want to use
 apropos wireless or man ath

To them, I say boo hoo.  Actually, I delete their mail.  You should
too.  Let idiots suffer on their own.



Wireless USB Adaptor

2009-08-25 Thread Brad Tilley
Hey guys,

I'm looking for some generic advice to give folks who cannot or
willnot verify what chipset a wireless usb adapter is using before
purchase. What do you guys say to people who do not want to use
apropos wireless or man ath, but at the same time want to just walk
into Walmart (or where ever) and purchase a wireless USB adapter so
their OpenBSD Laptop can do 802.11? Are there some percentage rules we
can provide? Such as ... 80% of Linksys and 70% of Dlink stuff works.
Don't touch XYZ adapters... Again, keeping it simple and in layman
terms. Any suggestion outside of RTFM ;) is much appreciated.

Brad



Re: SkyStar 1/2/3 DVB

2009-08-25 Thread Andrej Elizarov
 please re-read the page at the URL Brynet gave you.
As i said SkyStar1 cards is out-of-date. It's very hard to find this
device in my region.
But i'll write this url down.. just in case)


 On 2009-08-23, Brynet bry...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Andrej,

 The only video-input related devices that are officially supported are
 the Brooktree Bt848/849/878 and 879 family, via the bktr(4) and USB
 UVC devices, via uvideo(4)/video(4).

 Some 3rd party attempt at a driver for the SkyStar 1 does exist, but
 it's most likely out of date.. and it probably does not compile with
 the latest release of OpenBSD, http://www.alloyant.com/dvb/.



Re: Wireless USB Adaptor

2009-08-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-08-25, Brad Tilley b...@16systems.com wrote:
 I'm looking for some generic advice to give folks who cannot or
 willnot verify what chipset a wireless usb adapter is using before
 purchase. What do you guys say to people who do not want to use
 apropos wireless or man ath, but at the same time want to just walk
 into Walmart (or where ever) and purchase a wireless USB adapter so
 their OpenBSD Laptop can do 802.11? Are there some percentage rules we
 can provide? Such as ... 80% of Linksys and 70% of Dlink stuff works.
 Don't touch XYZ adapters...

No, and that is useless, because you don't care about 80% of foo and 70%
of bar, you care about the one single adapter you are buying.

 Again, keeping it simple and in layman
 terms. Any suggestion outside of RTFM ;) is much appreciated.

Buy it somewhere that lets you exchange it or try before buying.



Re: Wireless USB Adaptor

2009-08-25 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Brad Tilleyb...@16systems.com wrote:
 Hey guys,

 I'm looking for some generic advice to give folks who cannot or
 willnot verify what chipset a wireless usb adapter is using before
 purchase. What do you guys say to people who do not want to use
 apropos wireless or man ath, but at the same time want to just walk
 into Walmart (or where ever) and purchase a wireless USB adapter so
 their OpenBSD Laptop can do 802.11? Are there some percentage rules we
 can provide? Such as ... 80% of Linksys and 70% of Dlink stuff works.
 Don't touch XYZ adapters... Again, keeping it simple and in layman
 terms. Any suggestion outside of RTFM ;) is much appreciated.


Tell them to run windows and wash your hands of providing them support
for an OS they don't really want anyway.



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Re: Wireless USB Adaptor

2009-08-25 Thread Andres Genovez
2009/8/25 Brad Tilley b...@16systems.com

 Hey guys,

 I'm looking for some generic advice to give folks who cannot or
 willnot verify what chipset a wireless usb adapter is using before
 purchase. What do you guys say to people who do not want to use
 apropos wireless or man ath, but at the same time want to just walk
 into Walmart (or where ever) and purchase a wireless USB adapter so
 their OpenBSD Laptop can do 802.11? Are there some percentage rules we
 can provide? Such as ... 80% of Linksys and 70% of Dlink stuff works.
 Don't touch XYZ adapters... Again, keeping it simple and in layman
 terms. Any suggestion outside of RTFM ;) is much appreciated.


Test with QPCOM (ralink chipset) and it work like a charm, not fuss or muss.
Must try the GENERIC vendors before anything

:) Good Luck


 Brad



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Re: Wireless USB Adaptor

2009-08-25 Thread Chris Bennett

Brad Tilley wrote:

Hey guys,

I'm looking for some generic advice to give folks who cannot or
willnot verify what chipset a wireless usb adapter is using before
purchase. What do you guys say to people who do not want to use
apropos wireless or man ath, but at the same time want to just walk
into Walmart (or where ever) and purchase a wireless USB adapter so
their OpenBSD Laptop can do 802.11? Are there some percentage rules we
can provide? Such as ... 80% of Linksys and 70% of Dlink stuff works.
Don't touch XYZ adapters... Again, keeping it simple and in layman
terms. Any suggestion outside of RTFM ;) is much appreciated.

Brad


  

Every vendor uses several different chipsets and/or chipset revisions.
When I bought wireless (USB/PCI/PCMCIA), I carefully wrote down ALL the 
information on the box.

Every model #, serial #, whatever.

Then I was able to call various companies and ask exactly which chipset 
was in their card.

Many companies had good enough staff to actually tell me.
A few didn't have a clue.

Then these people will easily know whether OpenBSD supports a particular 
device or not.


A device you bought and works fine may now have been changed to one that 
won't work.

Contacting the manufacturer is the ONLY good way.

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Re: Wireless USB Adaptor

2009-08-25 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009, Brad Tilley wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 I'm looking for some generic advice to give folks who cannot or
 willnot verify what chipset a wireless usb adapter is using before
 purchase. What do you guys say to people who do not want to use
 apropos wireless or man ath, but at the same time want to just walk
 into Walmart (or where ever) and purchase a wireless USB adapter so
 their OpenBSD Laptop can do 802.11? Are there some percentage rules we
 can provide? Such as ... 80% of Linksys and 70% of Dlink stuff works.
 Don't touch XYZ adapters... Again, keeping it simple and in layman
 terms. Any suggestion outside of RTFM ;) is much appreciated.

Maybe it's worth to see this presentation:

http://www.openbsd.org/papers/brhard2007/

Teers,

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Re: Wireless USB Adaptor

2009-08-25 Thread Brad Tilley
 Maybe it's worth to see this presentation:

 http://www.openbsd.org/papers/brhard2007/

I definitely agree with OpenBSD's uncompromising stance on this. I'll
take quality code from sensible devs over binary blobs any day. I
admire folks who stand-up for what is right. That's one reason I
choose OpenBSD over other free operating systems.

At the same time, I unfortunately have to help Joe User. Occasionally
I'm being paid to help Joe User. So I have to suffer fools when that
is the case ;) and I'm a nice guy who likes to accommodate, but
attempt to educate at the same time. RTFM does not work on most Joe
Users and they often go away from that sort of conversation thinking
OpenBSD is for jerks (although it is not) and I do not wish to add to
that misconception. So, I was hoping to come-up with some informal
rules to help bridge the gap between us and them.

Thanks for all the advice. I'll keep suffering fools for now.

Brad



Re: Wireless USB Adaptor

2009-08-25 Thread bofh
Brad,
I've been burnt by buying what I thought was safe wireless cards
(you can see me asking for help in the archives).  OEMs change
chipsets without even updating version information in some cases.
Best advice is to buy something taiwanese based, based on the
presentation link given

On 8/25/09, Brad Tilley b...@16systems.com wrote:
 Maybe it's worth to see this presentation:

 http://www.openbsd.org/papers/brhard2007/

 I definitely agree with OpenBSD's uncompromising stance on this. I'll
 take quality code from sensible devs over binary blobs any day. I
 admire folks who stand-up for what is right. That's one reason I
 choose OpenBSD over other free operating systems.

 At the same time, I unfortunately have to help Joe User. Occasionally
 I'm being paid to help Joe User. So I have to suffer fools when that
 is the case ;) and I'm a nice guy who likes to accommodate, but
 attempt to educate at the same time. RTFM does not work on most Joe
 Users and they often go away from that sort of conversation thinking
 OpenBSD is for jerks (although it is not) and I do not wish to add to
 that misconception. So, I was hoping to come-up with some informal
 rules to help bridge the gap between us and them.

 Thanks for all the advice. I'll keep suffering fools for now.

 Brad



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Re: Wireless USB Adaptor

2009-08-25 Thread Andres Genovez
www.crice.org


2009/8/25 Daniel Bolgheroni m...@dbolgheroni.eng.br

 On Tue, 25 Aug 2009, Brad Tilley wrote:

  Hey guys,
 
  I'm looking for some generic advice to give folks who cannot or
  willnot verify what chipset a wireless usb adapter is using before
  purchase. What do you guys say to people who do not want to use
  apropos wireless or man ath, but at the same time want to just walk
  into Walmart (or where ever) and purchase a wireless USB adapter so
  their OpenBSD Laptop can do 802.11? Are there some percentage rules we
  can provide? Such as ... 80% of Linksys and 70% of Dlink stuff works.
  Don't touch XYZ adapters... Again, keeping it simple and in layman
  terms. Any suggestion outside of RTFM ;) is much appreciated.

 Maybe it's worth to see this presentation:

 http://www.openbsd.org/papers/brhard2007/


Cool paper a must read for everyone!


 Teers,

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