Re: Another question: device naming convention

2010-01-21 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:34:48PM -0800, Johan Beisser wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Song Li wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Bret S. Lambert > > wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 05:42:25AM +0100, Song Li wrote: > > > "fdisk sd0" is not a problem to me now either aft

Re: Another question: device naming convention

2010-01-21 Thread Johan Beisser
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Song Li wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Bret S. Lambert > wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 05:42:25AM +0100, Song Li wrote: > "fdisk sd0" is not a problem to me now either after I've seen Aaron's > comments on fdisk. The problem on mount still exists

Re: Another question: device naming convention

2010-01-21 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:43 AM, Song Li wrote: > I happen to have FreeBSD 6.4 in hand. The following commands work as > expected: > > fdisk ad4 > fdisk /dev/ad4 > fdisk da0 > fdisk /dev/da0 > mount /dev/ad4s4 /mnt/openbsd > mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usb > > and the following commands do no

Re: Another question: device naming convention

2010-01-21 Thread Miod Vallat
> What seems a little counter intuitive to me is: I would see sd0 as a > shortcut of /dev/sd0 for fdisk, but "fdisk /dev/sd0" does not work. It isn't. `sd0' is actually a shortcut for `/dev/rsd0c'; there is no /dev/sd0 at all. (If you want to know more about this particular name expansion, look at

Re: make src libstd++ on -current error

2010-01-21 Thread Andrej Elizarov
> follow the docs instead of trying to be clever and creating problems you > don't know how to solve? hey, how else can i learn some? yeah, you are all not my slaves and so on.

Re: make src libstd++ on -current error

2010-01-21 Thread Andrej Elizarov
2010/1/22, Jacob Meuser : > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 06:52:13AM +0300, Andrej Elizarov wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> While compiling userland on -current i get error: >> >> ...[skip] >> make -j3 all >^^^ thanks, this is may be a clue $ cat /etc/mk.conf PIPE= -pipe MAKE_FLAGS

Re: Another question: device naming convention

2010-01-21 Thread Song Li
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Bret S. Lambert wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 05:42:25AM +0100, Song Li wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Here comes a question again: what's the naming convention of the >> device on OpenBSD? >> >> I am still using the newly installed OpenBSD release 4.6. >> >> It did take m

Re: make src libstd++ on -current error

2010-01-21 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 06:52:13AM +0300, Andrej Elizarov wrote: > Hi all. > > While compiling userland on -current i get error: > > ...[skip] > make -j3 all ^^^ > I get some ideas about and trying to fix myself, but seems i don't > know enough about internals. > Any clues, ideas? follow

Re: Another question: device naming convention

2010-01-21 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 05:42:25AM +0100, Song Li wrote: > Hi, > > Here comes a question again: what's the naming convention of the > device on OpenBSD? > > I am still using the newly installed OpenBSD release 4.6. > > It did take me some effort to find out the name of device for me to > use wit

Re: Package related questions: pkg_info, pkg_add, etc.

2010-01-21 Thread Song Li
Thank you Bret. I can see that now after Aaron's comments and yours. cheers, Song On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Bret S. Lambert wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 05:27:39AM +0100, Song Li wrote: >> Hi: >> >> I am really a newbie on OpenBSD. So my question might look stupid to you. >> >> I am

Re: Another question: device naming convention

2010-01-21 Thread Song Li
Hi Johan, Thank you for the info. They are quite helpful. It seems like I have to read quite some documents on the same things I have been used to work with on Linux and FreeBSD ... On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Johan Beisser wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Song Li wrote: > >> For

Re: The insecurity of OpenBSD

2010-01-21 Thread Dan Harnett
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 02:47:27PM +1100, Aaron Mason wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Zamri Besar wrote: > > The insecurity of OpenBSD > > http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/ > > > > -zamri- > > > > > > An interesting read - but seems to just be ACL

Re: Package related questions: pkg_info, pkg_add, etc.

2010-01-21 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 05:27:39AM +0100, Song Li wrote: > Hi: > > I am really a newbie on OpenBSD. So my question might look stupid to you. > > I am using the current release 4.6 installed from the file > install46.iso on ftp://openbsd.ftp.fu-berlin.de/pub/OpenBSD/4.6/i386/ > > Have anyone enc

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Re: Another question: device naming convention

2010-01-21 Thread Johan Beisser
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Song Li wrote: > For the mount device: what's the device naming convention and the > rationale behind it? I do not think it's a good idea to search through > all the device and find out the device name. Linux and FreeBSD use > slightly different convention but the

Another question: device naming convention

2010-01-21 Thread Song Li
Hi, Here comes a question again: what's the naming convention of the device on OpenBSD? I am still using the newly installed OpenBSD release 4.6. It did take me some effort to find out the name of device for me to use with fdisk and mount: fdisk /dev/rwd0c and mount /dev/sd0i The first one is

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Package related questions: pkg_info, pkg_add, etc.

2010-01-21 Thread Song Li
Hi: I am really a newbie on OpenBSD. So my question might look stupid to you. I am using the current release 4.6 installed from the file install46.iso on ftp://openbsd.ftp.fu-berlin.de/pub/OpenBSD/4.6/i386/ Have anyone encountered any problem using pkg_info, pkg_add, etc.? They do not seem work

make src libstd++ on -current error

2010-01-21 Thread Andrej Elizarov
Hi all. While compiling userland on -current i get error: ...[skip] make -j3 all cd . && CONFIG_FILES= CONFIG_HEADERS=config.h /bin/sh ./config.status creating config.h config.h is unchanged make "AR_FLAGS=" "CC_FOR_BUILD=" "CC_FOR_TARGET=" "CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe " "CXXFLAGS=-O2 -pipe " "CFLAGS

Re: The insecurity of OpenBSD

2010-01-21 Thread STeve Andre'
On Thursday 21 January 2010 21:56:14 Zamri Besar wrote: > The insecurity of OpenBSD > http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/ > > -zamri- This should have been posted to advocacy, not misc. Actually, it doesn't truly belong there, either. There seems to be enoug

Re: The insecurity of OpenBSD

2010-01-21 Thread Eric Furman
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:56 +0800, "Zamri Besar" wrote: > The insecurity of OpenBSD > http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/ I know, I know a troll, but I'll bite. This is laughable because of his examples and lack of actual good ones. OpenVMS is only mentione

Re: The insecurity of OpenBSD

2010-01-21 Thread Aaron Mason
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Zamri Besar wrote: > The insecurity of OpenBSD > http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/ > > -zamri- > > An interesting read - but seems to just be ACLs, ACLs, ACLs and that's about it. And this person's source on the "failings"

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Re: iwn stopped working after OpenBSD upgrade in January, 2010

2010-01-21 Thread leonardz
I went to a windows box and it says the encryption methods were either TKIP or AES : it uses TKIP. It is also WPA-PSK, not WPA2-PSK. The AP in question is a NETGEAR WPN824. Len Zaifman From: leona...@sympatico.ca To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: iwn stopped working after OpenBSD upgrade in Januar

Re: creating instalation CD

2010-01-21 Thread Nick Holland
Yamidt Henao wrote: > *Hi, > > I try make instalation CD, from OPENBSD machine, I read the > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Release, but in the step: > # cd /usr/src/etc > # make release > show me message > make: don't know how to make release. Stop in /usr/src/etc. > > Can Anybody expl

The insecurity of OpenBSD

2010-01-21 Thread Zamri Besar
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Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread ropers
2010/1/22 Tobias Ulmer : > The only one who can prove that my assumptions are BS would be James. > The pressure is on 1. It's not a race. 2. You don't get to say things and then demand that James prove you wrong. That's bass-ackwards. regards, --ropers

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread Tobias Ulmer
The only one who can prove that my assumptions are BS would be James. The pressure is on, maybe you want to help him with better pointers than mine instead of just calling bs. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:19:10PM +, Owain Ainsworth wrote: > As someone who went from "knowing a small amount of C "

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread mehma sarja
I second that notion. Mehma === On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Owain Ainsworth wrote: > As someone who went from "knowing a small amount of C " to hacking the > kernel, i call bullshit on your assumptions here. > > On 1/21/10, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:52:52PM -0800,

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2010-01-21 Thread Stuart Henderson
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Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread Owain Ainsworth
As someone who went from "knowing a small amount of C " to hacking the kernel, i call bullshit on your assumptions here. On 1/21/10, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:52:52PM -0800, James Hozier wrote: >> With every single laptop I've bought/been given over the years, I >> was able

Re: creating instalation CD

2010-01-21 Thread Carl Trachte
On 1/21/10, Yamidt Henao wrote: > *Hi, > > I try make instalation CD, from OPENBSD machine, I read the > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Release, but in the step: > # cd /usr/src/etc > # make release > show me message > make: don't know how to make release. Stop in /usr/src/etc. > > Can A

creating instalation CD

2010-01-21 Thread Yamidt Henao
*Hi, I try make instalation CD, from OPENBSD machine, I read the http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Release, but in the step: # cd /usr/src/etc # make release show me message make: don't know how to make release. Stop in /usr/src/etc. Can Anybody explain me how make this procedure?** Best

Re: IPSEC: "bad checksum"

2010-01-21 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Toni Mueller wrote: > today I see tons of these on a 4.6-stable/amd64 machine (sample): > > 17:21:00.848135 esp 1.1.1.1 > 2.2.2.2 spi 0x54d46678 seq 132642 len 84 > (DF) (ttl 64, id 49897, len 104, bad cksum 0! differs by 8b3c) This looks like outgoing packets on an interface that does IPv4 hea

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2010-01-21 Thread Brynet
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iwn stopped working after OpenBSD upgrade in January, 2010

2010-01-21 Thread leonardz
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2010-01-21 Thread Josh Grosse
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Re: All partitions on Software RAID 1

2010-01-21 Thread B Da Bahia
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IPSEC: "bad checksum"

2010-01-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, today I see tons of these on a 4.6-stable/amd64 machine (sample): 17:21:00.848135 esp 1.1.1.1 > 2.2.2.2 spi 0x54d46678 seq 132642 len 84 (DF) (ttl 64, id 49897, len 104, bad cksum 0! differs by 8b3c) 17:21:00.859630 esp 2.2.2.2 > 1.1.1.1 spi 0x87b9932c seq 89638 len 324 (ttl 46, id 63366, l

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Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread Ted Unangst
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Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread Brad Tilley
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:52 -0800, "James Hozier" wrote: > With every single laptop I've bought/been given over the years, I > was able to run OpenBSD on them almost flawlessly save a few > quick/simple hacks to make anything that didn't work, work. > > The one main issue I've had with ALL of them

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Re: trac on OpenBSD current

2010-01-21 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:26:01PM +1100, Aaron Mason wrote: > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:48 AM, Sebastiano Pomata > wrote: > > After installing the package, pkg_add suggests to run the trac > > standalone server, so I think I will stick with it for trac, while > > keeping apache chrooted for other

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:52:52PM -0800, James Hozier wrote: >> With every single laptop I've bought/been given over the years, I >> was able to run OpenBSD on them almost flawlessly save a few >> quick/simple hacks to make anything that didn

Re: raidctl and reconstruction failure

2010-01-21 Thread Sebastiano Pomata
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Re: trac on OpenBSD current

2010-01-21 Thread Robert
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:39:20 +0100 Sebastiano Pomata wrote: > Il 21/01/10 01:38, Robert ha scritto: > > On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:31:58 +0100 > > Sebastiano Pomata wrote: > > > >> I can't understand how to get the latest version of trac from the > >> ports. I downloaded just today the whole ports

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Re: trac on OpenBSD current

2010-01-21 Thread Michal
> I think that this is the point. I installed from a plain > install46.iso, but then I thought I could have choosen which ports > tree to choose, -stable or -current. Where can I get more info about > the upgrade process to -current? > > Thanks > > Sebastiano > http://openbsd.org/anoncvs.html#s

Re: trac on OpenBSD current

2010-01-21 Thread James Hartley
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Sebastiano Pomata < sebastianopom...@tiscali.it> wrote: > I installed from a plain > install46.iso, but then I thought I could have choosen which ports > tree to choose, -stable or -current. No. FAQ 15.4.1 states that mixing the -current ports tree with a -rele

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:52:52PM -0800, James Hozier wrote: > With every single laptop I've bought/been given over the years, I > was able to run OpenBSD on them almost flawlessly save a few > quick/simple hacks to make anything that didn't work, work. > > The one main issue I've had with ALL of

Re: trac on OpenBSD current

2010-01-21 Thread Sebastiano Pomata
Il 21/01/10 01:38, Robert ha scritto: > On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:31:58 +0100 > Sebastiano Pomata wrote: > >> I can't understand how to get the latest version of trac from the >> ports. I downloaded just today the whole ports tree for OpenBSD, but I >> can only find trac version 0.11.4, while openpo