Re: Logitech Quick Cam driver

2010-02-27 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:25:04 +0530 Siju George sgeorge...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Any body running Ligitech QuickCam on OpenBSD 4.6 using
 
 http://tamentis.com/projects/openqce/
 
 or any other driver?
 
 I have a QuickCam messenger.
 
 Thanks
 
 --Siju
 

Come on Siju... where's the dmesg?

The supported Logitech QuickCam models/versions/variations are listed
in uvideo(1) along with other supported devices...

*BUT* a particular vendor or model name doesn't really mean very much
since the internal components are constantly changed by vendors without
changing the product model name... hence, the need for a dmesg (and
`usbdevs -v` is also nice).

-jon



Re: Acer Aspire One D250-1838 mouse problem

2010-02-27 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:17:01 -0500 electronmuontau neutrino
emtneutr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Short Story:
 I have an Acer Aspire One D250-1838 whose trackpad mouse stops working

You should search the bugs@ and misc@ lists. I recall seeing mouse
issues with Acer Aspire One issues reported last month on both lists.



Re: arbitrary ip range in pf

2010-02-27 Thread Vadim Zhukov
On 26 February 2010 c. 20:53:43 Kapetanakis Giannis wrote:
 On 26/02/10 19:23, Leonardo Carneiro - Veltrac wrote:
  Is it possible to write a rule based on a arbitrary ip rule instead
  using a full subnet as source address like this?
 
  hosts_allowed={ 192.168.0.21-40 }

 pf.conf(4)

 Ranges of addresses are specified using the `-' operator.  For
   instance: ``10.1.1.10 - 10.1.1.12'' means all addresses
 from 10.1.1.10 to 10.1.1.12, hence addresses 10.1.1.10, 10.1.1.11, and
   10.1.1.12.

 hosts_allowed={ 192.168.0.21 - 192.168.0.40 }

Oops... :)

 Vadim was also right about the rule evaluation.

 Do first a pass from $host_allowed then a pass from $im_server
 then block rest.

Did you mean block all, then allow from $host_allowed and $im_server?
Opposite way will get you blocked again. ;)

 Alternatively you can put all addresses in a table (no ranges).


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Re: arbitrary ip range in pf

2010-02-27 Thread Kapetanakis Giannis

On 27/02/10 12:24, Vadim Zhukov wrote:

Do first a pass from $host_allowed then a pass from $im_server
then block rest.


Did you mean block all, then allow from $host_allowed and $im_server?
Opposite way will get you blocked again. ;)


Both ways can work

pass in quick
block rest

regards,

Giannis



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Re: Need advice re: Wistron CM9 and Net 4501

2010-02-27 Thread Aaron Mason
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Chris Cappuccio ch...@nmedia.net wrote:
 Aaron Mason [simplersolut...@gmail.com] wrote:

 Firstly, the scanning issue.  The CM9 is an industrial card designed
 for use in wireless links and in IBSS networks.  They don't have the
 ability to search for other access points - they're meant to BE an
 access point.


 Bullshit.  It's just an atheros chip.  Works like any other one.  Some of
these companies change the RF front end to be more powerful, or whatever.  But
that doesn't change the features of the chip itself.

My DCMA81 is just an atheros chip by your definition, but it does
not have the ability to scan.  Linux says that it doesn't have that
capability and Windows fails almost instantly when you refresh the
network list.  I didn't try it in OpenBSD due to the first two
failures.  If it does, it probably has a lot to do with the fact that
the ath(4) driver came from a clean-room reverse engineer rather than
binary drivers from Atheros.  Like the CM9 card, it's a professional
card, not designed for end users.


 Secondly, since you've already used a 12V/2.5A (which is actually
 three times over the top for a board which has a 10W limit), it might
 be worth considering that maybe the 4501 isn't designed for a wireless
 card.  Maybe it's time for an upgrade to a Geode-based net5501 - or
 perhaps an ALIX board.  A 4511 or 4521 is a possibility.


 Actually, the mini-pci slot on the 4501 should work.

Should, yes.  Why isn't it though?


 It is a low power board, you may be going over the limit, although I don't
remember the CM9 having that high of a draw. Check out the soekris-tech list
and its archives to see what the power limit on the 4501's mini-pci slot is
and check out CM9 documentation to see what it can draw.

According to the doco from wirelesslan.gr, the CM9 draws 430mA maximum
while transmitting, 310mA while receiving and 250mA in standby.  For
the 3.3V mPCI bus this equates to 1.41W in full transmit, 1.023W in
full receive and 0.825W in standby.

As for the 4501 board, I couldn't tell you.  The site does mention
that the 4501 is ideal for a firewall or VPN router, but not a
wireless router - which both the 4511 and 4521 say that they are.


 Finally, give -current a try.  IIRC, some changes were made to the ath
atheros driver.  A new driver (athn) for new atheros 54xx is in there too.

 I've never got a CM9 (or _any_ atheros chip) working properly with openbsd
beyond basic 802.11b client mode, but then again, I haven't tried in a few
years.  Other cards seem to work better, the various intel drivers are what
most of my systems end up running.


AFAIK, the ath(4) driver doesn't support past 11b.  Whether that has
changed in -current I don't know.  I also don't have any N-class
devices to test for athn(4), though they won't support N-mode until
ieee80211(9) is brought up to speed.

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I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse



usb devices power off

2010-02-27 Thread Jean-François SIMON
Hi all

I am looking for a way to shut down the power of the usb hub and usb
devices.
Looking into the documentation plus trying various commands makes me think
there is no way to do this.
Particularly for usb pens supplied by the usb port, is there a way to power
off and on the usb hub ?

Thank you

Regards

#dmesg
cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, 2000.34 MHz
cpu0:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, 2000.00 MHz
cpu1:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 4
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (HUB0)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: PSS
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 75 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
cpu0: PowerNow! K8 2000 MHz: speeds: 2000 1800 1000 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
NVIDIA MCP77 Memory rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 not configured
pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 ISA rev 0xa2
nviic0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 NVIDIA MCP77 SMBus rev 0xa1
iic0 at nviic0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-6400CL5
iic1 at nviic0
NVIDIA MCP77 Memory rev 0xa1 at pci0 dev 1 function 2 not configured
NVIDIA MCP77 Co-processor rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 1 function 3 not configured
NVIDIA MCP77 Memory rev 0xa1 at pci0 dev 1 function 4 not configured
ohci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 USB rev 0xa1: apic 4 int 10
(irq 10), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 NVIDIA MCP77 USB rev 0xa1: apic 4 int 11
(irq 11)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 NVIDIA EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ohci1 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 USB rev 0xa1: apic 4 int 5
(irq 5), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci1 at pci0 dev 4 function 1 NVIDIA MCP77 USB rev 0xa1: apic 4 int 10
(irq 10)
usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 NVIDIA EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
pciide0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 IDE rev 0xa1: DMA, channel 0
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
pciide0: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled)
azalia0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 HD Audio rev 0xa1: apic 4
int 10 (irq 10)
azalia0: codecs: Realtek ALC888, NVIDIA/0x0002, using Realtek ALC888
audio0 at azalia0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 PCI rev 0xa1
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
TI TSB43AB22 FireWire rev 0x00 at pci1 dev 8 function 0 not configured
pciide1 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 AHCI rev 0xa2: DMA
(unsupported), channel 0 wired to native-PCI, channel 1 wired to native-PCI
pciide1: using apic 4 int 11 (irq 11) for native-PCI interrupt
wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0: OCZ SOLID_SSD
wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 30800MB, 63078400 sectors
wd1 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0: WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 953869MB, 1953525168 sectors
ppb1 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 PCIE rev 0xa1
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
vga1 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 vendor NVIDIA, unknown product 0x0849 rev
0xa2
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
ppb2 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 PCIE rev 0xa1: apic 4 int 16
(irq 255)
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
ppb3 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 NVIDIA MCP77 PCIE rev 0xa1: apic 4 int 16
(irq 255)
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
pchb0 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 AMD AMD64 0Fh HyperTransport rev 0x00
pchb1 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 AMD AMD64 0Fh Address Map rev 0x00
pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 AMD AMD64 0Fh DRAM Cfg rev 0x00
kate0 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 AMD AMD64 0Fh Misc Cfg rev 0x00: core rev
BH-F2
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
it0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: IT8716F rev 3, EC port 0x290
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
usb2 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 NVIDIA OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 NVIDIA OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 

Re: Core dumps from daemon processes?

2010-02-27 Thread Anthony Howe
On 24/02/2010 19:59, Rogier Krieger whispered from the shadows...:
 Would the following be an improvement for the documentation? Feel free

Not entirely correct. I'd say this:


Programs with their set-user-ID bit set or that make use of the setuid
family of functions will not dump core as a security precaution. This
prevents sensitive information from ending up on disk. For debugging,
programs affected by this should set:

sysctl kern.nosuidcoredump=2

Core dumps will then be saved to /var/crash.


Simply referring to sysctl(3) doesn't help since the possible values
that kern.nosuidcoredump can be set to are not described there. I don't
think they're described in any man page. You either need to sift through
newsgroups, release notes, or read the source.

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Re: Core dumps from daemon processes?

2010-02-27 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 04:17:24PM +0100, Anthony Howe wrote:
 
 Simply referring to sysctl(3) doesn't help since the possible values
 that kern.nosuidcoredump can be set to are not described there. I don't
 think they're described in any man page. You either need to sift through
 newsgroups, release notes, or read the source.
 

sysctl(3):

KERN_NOSUIDCOREDUMP
Programs with their set-user-ID bit set will not dump core
when this is set.  The special value of 2 means that core
dumps will be allowed, but placed in /var/crash.

jmc



Re: Logitech Quick Cam driver

2010-02-27 Thread Siju George
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:44 PM, J.C. Roberts list-...@designtools.org wrote:
 On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:25:04 +0530 Siju George sgeorge...@gmail.com
 The supported Logitech QuickCam models/versions/variations are listed
 in uvideo(1) along with other supported devices...

 *BUT* a particular vendor or model name doesn't really mean very much
 since the internal components are constantly changed by vendors without
 changing the product model name... hence, the need for a dmesg (and
 `usbdevs -v` is also nice).


ok that is good news :-)

unfortunately i wrecked the installation will send the dmesg after re
install :-)

thanks

--Siju



Re: Core dumps from daemon processes?

2010-02-27 Thread Anthony Howe
On 27/02/2010 16:32, Jason McIntyre whispered from the shadows...:
 sysctl(3):
 
   KERN_NOSUIDCOREDUMP
 Programs with their set-user-ID bit set will not dump core
 when this is set.  The special value of 2 means that core
 dumps will be allowed, but placed in /var/crash.

So it does now. I had to look at a 4.6 system.

Still it doesn't hurt to state that in core(5).

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File Server: fsck, memory requirements and large disk drives

2010-02-27 Thread Claus Niesen
I'm trying to figure out the best way to setup a home file server.  I have a 
700MHz Celeron with 512MB RAM (maxed out), a gigabit network adapter and 1.5TB 
hard drive along with a few smaller ones. Currently it is set up with OpenBSD 
and samba.  The 1.5 TB hard drive is partitioned in three equal partition so I 
have a chance to pass the fsck if ever needed.  This setup works well, except 
that I have to partition the drive into smaller partitions.  I really would 
like not to be bound by the partition size restriction.  But of course I would 
also like to be able to reboot the server and access the data after a power 
failure or such.  And read-only mode isn't an option either.

Thanks to great documentation of OpenBSD 
(http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#LargeDrive) I know that I'm out of luck 
with default file system (FFS) on OpenBSD.  What I'm not sure about is if a 
different file system on OpenBSD could alleviate the memory issue.  Also, would 
I encounter the same memory requirements for fsck with other operating systems 
such as the FreeNAS (FreeBSD)?
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Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??

2010-02-27 Thread Victor Tarabola Cortiano
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 05:00:50PM +1100, Rod Whitworth wrote:

 As for being able to do it with GPL CDs - Try doing it with HedRat,
 particularly any of the RHEL lines. You'll find out quickly that the
 licence doesn't get you anywhere when HatRed's lawyers are on your
 case. That's why Centos is carefully re-engineered.
 

Nothing to do with the GPL. You can't sell Verbatim copies of the RHEL
cds due to trademarks (not copyright) in logos and the name. CentOS is
just RHEL without those logos and the name Red Hat.

Unrelated with this but relevant to the creator of the topic, you can't
sell the official OpenBSD cds due to the artwork being copyrighted by
Theo (I think). But you can download the cd on the internet (that cd does
not contain artwork) and sell copies of it.

Same thing with RedHat, you can take all the GPLed software (and BSDed)
software there, put in a cd and sell copies of it, if you don't use the
name RedHat or one of their logos.

The difference resides between the legal mechanisms used: OpenBSD uses
copyright on its artwork and RedHat uses trademarks on its logos.

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Which webcam?

2010-02-27 Thread Michael Lechtermann
Hi,

since my old webcam (some cheap Logitech Quickcam) doesn't work with
OpenBSD I was wondering what you guys are using?

I would prefer to attach it to my ALIX wireless access point over buying
an expensive cam that supports IP connections.

Thanks in advance!


Michael



Re: Which webcam?

2010-02-27 Thread Tomas Bodzar
Think only about those devices
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=uvideoapropos=0sektion=0manpath=OpenBSD+Currentarch=i386format=html
so look for something with this standard (UVC) marked on box or
Vista/Windows 7 certified. Webcams wich use UVC standard are running
in BSD systems, OpenSolaris, Linux, Windows

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Michael Lechtermann
mich...@lechtermann.net wrote:
 Hi,

 since my old webcam (some cheap Logitech Quickcam) doesn't work with
 OpenBSD I was wondering what you guys are using?

 I would prefer to attach it to my ALIX wireless access point over buying
 an expensive cam that supports IP connections.

 Thanks in advance!


 Michael





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Re: FWIW Current snapshot Apache/PHP buggy

2010-02-27 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:58:30 -0500
Dan Harnett dan...@harnett.name wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 03:30:47AM -0700, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
  I've just installed a server using current and have found that 
  there are problems with session_destroy(); such that is just 
  does not work.  
  
  The Apache is the installed (1.3) version and PHP is from 
  packages.
  
  I have tested the same software and setup on a 4.5 Release 
  (no patches) and there are no problems with sessions.  
 
 
 Can you provide any more detail?  session_destroy() appears to work fine
 with the i386 snap dated 2/23/2010 and latest php5-core snapshot
 package.
 

I mebbe spoke to soon to be conclusive... as of now I am still looking
under rocks... the problem exhibits on a clean 4.5-Release install but
not on my (semi stock) 4.5 development box.

Dhu



Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??

2010-02-27 Thread bofh
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Rod Whitworth glis...@witworx.com wrote:

 On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:12:53 -0300, Victor Tarabola Cortiano wrote:
 You could sell it for profit too if OpenBSD were GPLed, or any other
 free software license.
 

 Now, that sounds like trolling to me or else severe ignorance.

 As some earlier poster/s stated, you can sell an OpenBSD CD for a
 profit. Just not a literal copy of the release CD.

 As for being able to do it with GPL CDs - Try doing it with HedRat,
 particularly any of the RHEL lines. You'll find out quickly that the


Uh Rod, the same thing that prevents someone from selling a copy of the
OpenBSD release CD is what RedCrap uses too - you are not allowed to use
RedCrap copyrighted things, logos, artwork, etc.  The GPL portion you can
reproduce and resell all day long, the same as the BSD licensed part of
OpenBSD.


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Re: Acer Aspire One D250-1838 mouse problem

2010-02-27 Thread electronmuontau neutrino
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 3:21 AM, J.C. Roberts list-...@designtools.org wrote:
 On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:17:01 -0500 electronmuontau neutrino
 emtneutr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Short Story:
 I have an Acer Aspire One D250-1838 whose trackpad mouse stops working

 You should search the bugs@ and misc@ lists. I recall seeing mouse
 issues with Acer Aspire One issues reported last month on both lists.


Thanks, I found some bugs involving acpi and Acer Aspire notebooks.
Disabling acpi fixes the issue.  Disabling apm was not required
though.



Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??

2010-02-27 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:21:01 -0500, bofh wrote:

Uh Rod, the same thing that prevents someone from selling a copy of the
OpenBSD release CD is what RedCrap uses too - you are not allowed to use
RedCrap copyrighted things, logos, artwork, etc.  The GPL portion you can
reproduce and resell all day long, the same as the BSD licensed part of
OpenBSD.

Which is exactly what I meant when I said That's why Centos is
carefully re-engineered. in my original message. I didn't think I
needed to spell out chapter and verse .

Smart enough people will know what that involves... and the others
don't matter.

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Re: FWIW Current snapshot Apache/PHP buggy

2010-02-27 Thread Chris Bennett

Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
I've just installed a server using current and have found that 
there are problems with session_destroy(); such that is just 
does not work.  

The Apache is the installed (1.3) version and PHP is from 
packages.


I have tested the same software and setup on a 4.5 Release 
(no patches) and there are no problems with sessions.  


Dhu


  
If you have the very latest apache, you will need to rebuild apache 
modules from ports, not packages.

(at some point packages will be updated if not already)

The trick that made all clear for me was:

check 'ls -l /usr/lib/apache/modules', the following are from base:

-r--r--r--  1 root  bin  114973 Feb 25 22:54 libproxy.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin7736 Feb 25 22:54 mod_auth_anon.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin7847 Feb 25 22:54 mod_auth_db.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   12046 Feb 25 22:54 mod_auth_dbm.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   25865 Feb 25 22:54 mod_auth_digest.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   12005 Feb 25 22:54 mod_cern_meta.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   11862 Feb 25 22:54 mod_define.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   12196 Feb 25 22:54 mod_digest.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   12197 Feb 25 22:54 mod_expires.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin7357 Feb 25 22:54 mod_headers.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   20276 Feb 25 22:54 mod_info.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin7357 Feb 25 22:54 mod_log_agent.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin7594 Feb 25 22:54 mod_log_referer.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   24150 Feb 25 22:54 mod_mime_magic.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   12251 Feb 25 22:54 mod_mmap_static.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   57862 Feb 25 22:54 mod_rewrite.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   12656 Feb 25 22:54 mod_speling.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   11827 Feb 25 22:54 mod_unique_id.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   13283 Feb 25 22:54 mod_usertrack.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  bin   12005 Feb 25 22:54 mod_vhost_alias.so

any others will be from packages, make sure they are dated from
after you rebuilt/reinstalled things.

I had trouble getting rid of an old mod_gzip.so
I had to work hard deleting *.tgz's from the four places they pop up

Thanks to Stuart Henderson for that tip

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Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??

2010-02-27 Thread Daniel Ouellet

On 2/26/10 7:44 PM, Citra Cool wrote:

Can I selling openBSD in CD for profit??


You can always become an OpenBSD reseller if you want.

If my memory served me right, you can buy the CD in bulk directly from 
Theo. If you buy 25 or more from him at once, he will give you a pretty 
good discount ( I think it was 40%, but please don't take it as being 
right!) on them and then you can sale them at the same price as the 
project if you like and that's one way for you to help some.


I can't recall right now the final price you would pay for 25 or more, 
but fell free to contact Theo directly and proceed. I am pretty sure he 
would be happy to work with you if you actually are serious about doing 
so. Just don't waste his time if you are not going to do 25 and more 
however.


If you are thinking of using the ISO and make CD to sale them, that's 
not allow and you would hurt the project doing so.


But don't take any of what I wrote here as the truth, I am not the final 
person to say yes or no on this. Theo is!


Best,

Daniel



Re: SSH through port SMTP

2010-02-27 Thread inet_user23

Hi,

Thanks for your reply and advice.

My problem is that I the remote operator may decide to block SSH access
to the bridge. But I know he will not block SMTP access, because the
bridge is running spamd.

The bridge has to sk interfaces, the external one having a valid IP
address
and the internal one IP-less.

In fact, I sort of borrowed the ruleset from the spamd PF config. Only
I
put the rdr rule for SSH before the rdr rule for spamd. My idea was:

whenever a connection from an specific IP address, $myip, comes in
on port SMTP, redirect it to the SSH server via the loopback interface.

But it seems that I need to do more than just redirect the traffic to
port
SSH and route it through the loopback interface.

Any help is appreciated.

Regards,

Jose.



Re: File Server: fsck, memory requirements and large disk drives

2010-02-27 Thread Bohdan Tashchuk
 The 1.5 TB hard drive is partitioned in three equal partition
 so I have a chance to pass the fsck if ever needed.

You may still have difficulty passing fsck.

By default OpenBSD will attempt to fsck all three partitions in parallel. See 
this thread from last month where I mentioned a change to /etc/rc which will 
help.

http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openbsd-misc/2010/1/5/6318963



Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-02-27 Thread Andres Genovez
2010/1/22 James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com

 I don't understand what a solution can be. If they're never going to
 release
 supporting documentation anyway, does it really make a
 difference for them?
 Since they're profiting with or without us
 anyway. So we can either choose to
 just make it work, or just not buy
 their products. I think the former is more
 productive than the latter
 since boycotting their product won't really
 affect them (at least
 any time soon) so they won't care anyway. On the other
 hand, learning
 to do things like reverse engineer and write drivers can be a
 good
 experience, especially for a young person such as myself. I just want
 to
 make my stuff work, regardless of what anyone else thinks of it...
 and if
 other people want to use my code too, then I'd be glad to share.
 But the
 primary focus is for my own personal gain, not to help others
 have support for
 their hardware.

 Of course the other option being that I could just go ahead
 and forget
 all of that and buy a Thinkpad of my choice so the work is already
 done for me. All of my previous machines just coincidentally had bad
 compatibility with OpenBSD because I didn't exactly choose them from
 selections like at a store (I took whatever was available for free or
 cheap)
 and I didn't always get what I want because I didn't grow up in
 a household
 where we really had the luxury of even buying a computer
 at all, but I was
 always open to picking up thrown away boxes that were
 functioning perfectly
 fine.

 After I recently finished high school (just barely; I'm not very smart
 which is also why I failed every class in two semesters of community
 college)


Take it easy pal, your never limit your capacity

I've been working full-time for minimum wage with extra shifts
 to save up for
 that new ThinkPad I've always wanted. It took a while
 after the rent, bills,
 and food, but I'm not sure if I still want to
 make the purchase because I
 could learn so much from trying to get my
 current notebook to work instead of
 just relying on something that
 works out of the box. So I'm still
 contemplating on whether my money
 can go to better use.

 What do you think?
 --- On Fri, 1/22/10, J.C. Roberts list-...@designtools.org wrote:

  From:
 J.C. Roberts list-...@designtools.org
  Subject: Re: Books on reverse
 engineering?
  To: Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com
  Cc: Tomas Bodzar
 tomas.bod...@gmail.com, Tobias Ulmer tobi...@tmux.org, James
 Hozier
 guitars...@yahoo.com, misc@openbsd.org
  Date: Friday, January 22, 2010,
 9:05 AM
 
  [snip]
 
  At present, James only asked the question of How?
 but
  skipped over
  the far more important question of Why?
 
  I've been
 a DataRescue/HexRays customer for over a decade,
  and I have a
  full
 licenses for the IDA Pro disassembler and the HexRays
  decompiler.
  I am
 certainly not great at reverse engineering, but I
  can usually do
  well
 enough. When I see the constant complaints from the
  open source
  world
 about closed hardware, in particular nVidia, my
  personal thought
  processes
 is very consistent...
 
1.) Get Angry.
2.) Say to myself, I could
 fix this, since
  disassembling and/or
decompiling the closed source
 nVida
  drivers is certainly possible.
3.) I ponder how long it would take
 to do, and how
  much time I would
sink into supporting it.
4.)
 And finally I get to the rational conclusion; I
  SHOULD NOT HELP A
 
 HARDWARE VENDOR WHO REFUSES TO RELEASE
  DOCUMENTATION!
 
  The reality of
 why? is truly ugly; If I spend my time
  supporting
  undocumented hardware,
 then I am only encouraging vendors
  to refuse to
  provide documentation. It
 actually makes more sense to
  throw away the
  undocumented hardware and
 replace it with well documented
  hardware.
 
  As you can see, the challenge
 of getting something to work
  is not the
  most important consideration. The
 most important thing is
  the
  precedence you set by helping hardware vendors
 to remain
  closed.
 
  James would do more good by stomping on the device
 as he
  mentioned,
  taking pictures of the destruction, putting up his poor
 
 experience up
  on a blog, and mail the link to the VP of Marketing at the
 
 vendor.
 
  Being nice with vendors seldom works.
 
  --
  jon




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Re: File Server: fsck, memory requirements and large disk drives

2010-02-27 Thread Ted Unangst
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Claus Niesen cnie...@gmx.net wrote:
 Thanks to great documentation of OpenBSD
(http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#LargeDrive) I know that I'm out of luck
with default file system (FFS) on OpenBSD.  What I'm not sure about is if a
different file system on OpenBSD could alleviate the memory issue.  Also,
would I encounter the same memory requirements for fsck with other operating
systems such as the FreeNAS (FreeBSD)?

The memory required to check a filesystem is a function of the things
(inodes, directories, ...) in the filesystem that need checking.
There's no way around that, regardless of filesystem or operating
system.  You need a (journaled) filesystem that doesn't need checking.
 OpenBSD doesn't support any.