Re: Average time for compiling userland? == benchmarking CPU/IO? best result for database hosting?
Hello, Iam confused on the different result I get when I compile userland on any machine better then a Dual Core 2.5Ghz 2GB RAM 160GB 7200 SATA / SATA ii On some machines I get a compile time of 45min, other machines 30min.. and the best of the case I get 30min. Sometimes that machine that takes 45min is far better hardware then a DualCore, in this case a QuadCore with SATA II/sata... Iam going to use these machines for database and Iam very concerned about these results Based on that I have this question: Is it normal that this varies so much? (Afterall a variation from 35min to 45min represents an increase of about %25 less efficiency!!) Is there a better way to benchmark the IO of a Hard Disk on OpenBSD , what should be the normal of a hard disk scanned as sd SATA/ SATA II with similar CPU/RAM as mentioned? Andres Hi! You didn't provide too many details. Based on that it could be any of the following: Different CPU (Intel vs. AMD, CPU generations, amount of CPU cache...) Different FSB Different memory setup or technology (integrated vs. on-board memory, controller single-channel vs. dual-channel vs. triple-channel, DDR vs. DDR2 vs. DDR3, ECC vs. noECC, buffered vs. unbuffered, memory speed or timings, ...) Different I/O or SATA controller Different chipset Misconfiguration (BIOS, OS, HDD, ...) Different HDD (platter density, RPM, HDD cache, manufacturer, ...) HDD layout (beginning vs. the end of disk) and probably a ton of others I didn't think of. How much, if at all, should any of these matter? No idea, you tell us :) Regards, Daniel.
Re: Books on reverse engineering?
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:22 AM, James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com wrote: So with that reference in mind, would anyone experienced care to point me in some correct direction? (Which texts to read, which programming language(s) to focus on, etc.) A book that might help. http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ --Siju
Re: FWIW Current snapshot Apache/PHP buggy
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:01:20 + (UTC) Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2010-02-27, Duncan Patton a Campbell campb...@neotext.ca wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:58:30 -0500 Dan Harnett dan...@harnett.name wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 03:30:47AM -0700, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: I've just installed a server using current and have found that there are problems with session_destroy(); such that is just does not work. The Apache is the installed (1.3) version and PHP is from packages. I have tested the same software and setup on a 4.5 Release (no patches) and there are no problems with sessions. Can you provide any more detail? session_destroy() appears to work fine with the i386 snap dated 2/23/2010 and latest php5-core snapshot package. I mebbe spoke to soon to be conclusive... as of now I am still looking under rocks... the problem exhibits on a clean 4.5-Release install but not on my (semi stock) 4.5 development box. sessions were broken in PHP in 4.5 release, you need to compile from -stable ports (or move to -current after the next package snapshot for your arch has been built). I pulled the 4.5 stable ports and no change... given what Chris Bennett said previously I think the problem is in apache not the php package. Just the same I'm going to pull the ports from current and build that before I go about trying to rebuild the distribution apache 1.3 (not in ports..) Dhu
Re: FWIW Current snapshot Apache/PHP buggy
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:01:20 + (UTC) Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2010-02-27, Duncan Patton a Campbell campb...@neotext.ca wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:58:30 -0500 Dan Harnett dan...@harnett.name wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 03:30:47AM -0700, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: I've just installed a server using current and have found that there are problems with session_destroy(); such that is just does not work. The Apache is the installed (1.3) version and PHP is from packages. I have tested the same software and setup on a 4.5 Release (no patches) and there are no problems with sessions. Can you provide any more detail? session_destroy() appears to work fine with the i386 snap dated 2/23/2010 and latest php5-core snapshot package. I mebbe spoke to soon to be conclusive... as of now I am still looking under rocks... the problem exhibits on a clean 4.5-Release install but not on my (semi stock) 4.5 development box. sessions were broken in PHP in 4.5 release, you need to compile from -stable ports (or move to -current after the next package snapshot for your arch has been built). How wide is this problem? I started out with a 4.6 current, which didn't work, then 4.5 release... sessions are a fairly important php feature. What has me bugged here is that I have a 4.5 system that works fine, but it is not just release, and has had apache2.2 installed on it (my devsys...) and runable. Thanks for any help. Dhu
IPsec 4.6 to snapshot failing
Good morning misc, I upgraded two devices from i386-4.6 to i386-snapshot-feb28. After the upgrade snapshot boxes are unable to communicate with the 4.6 devices when going through ipsec. snapshot-snapshot works fine. Everything looks ok except that nothing shows up on enc0 when doing 4.6--snapshot. Deleting the SA's restores connectiviy, unencrypted of course. Is this a known issue ? /T bmr1.jfa: 212.112.186.174 (4.6) bmr1.brh: 212.188.183.71 (snapshot) --- bmr1.jfa# ipsecctl -sa | grep 212.188.183.71 flow esp in from 212.188.183.71 to 212.112.186.174 peer 212.188.183.71 srcid 212.112.186.174/32 dstid 212.188.183.71/32 type use flow esp out from 212.112.186.174 to 212.188.183.71 peer 212.188.183.71 srcid 212.112.186.174/32 dstid 212.188.183.71/32 type require esp transport from 212.188.183.71 to 212.112.186.174 spi 0x3f91b3c2 auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes esp transport from 212.112.186.174 to 212.188.183.71 spi 0xa797ec1e auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes bmr1.jfa# bmr1.brh# ipsecctl -sa | grep 212.112.186.174 flow esp in from 212.112.186.174 to 212.188.183.71 peer 212.112.186.174 srcid 212.188.183.71/32 dstid 212.112.186.174/32 type use flow esp out from 212.188.183.71 to 212.112.186.174 peer 212.112.186.174 srcid 212.188.183.71/32 dstid 212.112.186.174/32 type require esp transport from 212.188.183.71 to 212.112.186.174 spi 0x3f91b3c2 auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes esp transport from 212.112.186.174 to 212.188.183.71 spi 0xa797ec1e auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes bmr1.brh# bmr1.brh# pfctl -d pf disabled bmr1.brh# tcpdump -n -p -i vlan301 host 212.112.186.174 [1] 2099 bmr1.brh# tcpdump: listening on vlan301, link-type EN10MB bmr1.brh# tcpdump -n -p -i enc0 [2] 23922 bmr1.brh# tcpdump: listening on enc0, link-type ENC bmr1.brh# bmr1.jfa# tcpdump -n -p -i bge0 host 212.188.183.71 [1] 443 bmr1.jfa# tcpdump: listening on bge0, link-type EN10MB bmr1.jfa# tcpdump -n -p -i enc0 [2] 16714 bmr1.jfa# tcpdump: listening on enc0, link-type ENC bmr1.jfa# bmr1.jfa# ping 212.188.183.71 PING 212.188.183.71 (212.188.183.71): 56 data bytes 11:21:48.081933 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0x007e7833: 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71: icmp: echo request 11:21:48.081969 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 15 len 116 11:21:49.085937 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0x007e7833: 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71: icmp: echo request 11:21:49.085974 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 16 len 116 11:21:50.095970 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0x007e7833: 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71: icmp: echo request 11:21:50.096006 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 17 len 116 11:21:51.106010 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0x007e7833: 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71: icmp: echo request 11:21:51.106045 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 18 len 116 bmr1.brh# 10:21:48.102134 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 15 len 116 10:21:49.106079 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 16 len 116 10:21:50.116146 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 17 len 116 10:21:51.126213 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 18 len 116 bmr1.jfa# grep 212.188.183.71 /etc/ipsec.conf ike esp transport from 212.112.186.174 to 212.188.183.71 bmr1.brh# grep 212.112.186.174 /etc/ipsec.conf ike esp transport from 212.188.183.71 to 212.112.186.174
Re: IPsec 4.6 to snapshot failing
On 2010 Mar 01 (Mon) at 11:57:41 +0100 (+0100), Tony Sarendal wrote: :Good morning misc, : :I upgraded two devices from i386-4.6 to i386-snapshot-feb28. :After the upgrade snapshot boxes are unable to communicate with the 4.6 :devices :when going through ipsec. snapshot-snapshot works fine. ... :esp transport from 212.188.183.71 to 212.112.186.174 spi 0x3f91b3c2 auth :hmac-sha2-256 enc aes http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html#20100110 -- How long a minute is depends on which side of the bathroom door you're on.
Re: IPsec 4.6 to snapshot failing
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 11:57:41AM +0100, Tony Sarendal wrote: Good morning misc, I upgraded two devices from i386-4.6 to i386-snapshot-feb28. After the upgrade snapshot boxes are unable to communicate with the 4.6 devices when going through ipsec. snapshot-snapshot works fine. Everything looks ok except that nothing shows up on enc0 when doing 4.6--snapshot. Deleting the SA's restores connectiviy, unencrypted of course. Is this a known issue ? Yes: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html#20100110 -Otto /T bmr1.jfa: 212.112.186.174 (4.6) bmr1.brh: 212.188.183.71 (snapshot) --- bmr1.jfa# ipsecctl -sa | grep 212.188.183.71 flow esp in from 212.188.183.71 to 212.112.186.174 peer 212.188.183.71 srcid 212.112.186.174/32 dstid 212.188.183.71/32 type use flow esp out from 212.112.186.174 to 212.188.183.71 peer 212.188.183.71 srcid 212.112.186.174/32 dstid 212.188.183.71/32 type require esp transport from 212.188.183.71 to 212.112.186.174 spi 0x3f91b3c2 auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes esp transport from 212.112.186.174 to 212.188.183.71 spi 0xa797ec1e auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes bmr1.jfa# bmr1.brh# ipsecctl -sa | grep 212.112.186.174 flow esp in from 212.112.186.174 to 212.188.183.71 peer 212.112.186.174 srcid 212.188.183.71/32 dstid 212.112.186.174/32 type use flow esp out from 212.188.183.71 to 212.112.186.174 peer 212.112.186.174 srcid 212.188.183.71/32 dstid 212.112.186.174/32 type require esp transport from 212.188.183.71 to 212.112.186.174 spi 0x3f91b3c2 auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes esp transport from 212.112.186.174 to 212.188.183.71 spi 0xa797ec1e auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes bmr1.brh# bmr1.brh# pfctl -d pf disabled bmr1.brh# tcpdump -n -p -i vlan301 host 212.112.186.174 [1] 2099 bmr1.brh# tcpdump: listening on vlan301, link-type EN10MB bmr1.brh# tcpdump -n -p -i enc0 [2] 23922 bmr1.brh# tcpdump: listening on enc0, link-type ENC bmr1.brh# bmr1.jfa# tcpdump -n -p -i bge0 host 212.188.183.71 [1] 443 bmr1.jfa# tcpdump: listening on bge0, link-type EN10MB bmr1.jfa# tcpdump -n -p -i enc0 [2] 16714 bmr1.jfa# tcpdump: listening on enc0, link-type ENC bmr1.jfa# bmr1.jfa# ping 212.188.183.71 PING 212.188.183.71 (212.188.183.71): 56 data bytes 11:21:48.081933 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0x007e7833: 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71: icmp: echo request 11:21:48.081969 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 15 len 116 11:21:49.085937 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0x007e7833: 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71: icmp: echo request 11:21:49.085974 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 16 len 116 11:21:50.095970 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0x007e7833: 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71: icmp: echo request 11:21:50.096006 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 17 len 116 11:21:51.106010 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0x007e7833: 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71: icmp: echo request 11:21:51.106045 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 18 len 116 bmr1.brh# 10:21:48.102134 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 15 len 116 10:21:49.106079 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 16 len 116 10:21:50.116146 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 17 len 116 10:21:51.126213 esp 212.112.186.174 212.188.183.71 spi 0x007e7833 seq 18 len 116 bmr1.jfa# grep 212.188.183.71 /etc/ipsec.conf ike esp transport from 212.112.186.174 to 212.188.183.71 bmr1.brh# grep 212.112.186.174 /etc/ipsec.conf ike esp transport from 212.188.183.71 to 212.112.186.174
Re: kern.maxclusters: 6144 - ?
On 26. feb. 2010, at 11.58, Claudio Jeker wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:30:30AM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote: On 26. feb. 2010, at 03.01, Aaron Mason wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Pete Vickers p...@systemnet.no wrote: Hi, A proxy (squid) server running i368/4.6RELEASE with around 800 users, what would be a reasonable value to increase kern.maxclusters too, to cure this : r...@proxy-s ~ grep mcl /var/log/messages Dec 10 10:13:43 proxy-s /bsd: WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters Dec 10 11:06:07 proxy-s /bsd: WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters Dec 15 13:41:48 proxy-s /bsd: WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters r...@proxy-s ~ sysctl kern.maxclusters kern.maxclusters=6144 r...@proxy-s ~ netstat -m 4098 mbufs in use: 1131 mbufs allocated to data 2962 mbufs allocated to packet headers 5 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 1084/6152/6144 mbuf 2048 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 4096 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 8192 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 9216 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 12288 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 16384 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 65536 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 14176 Kbytes allocated to network (22% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines something like kern.maxclusters=1 or ? /Pete Only you can answer that, Pete. Try increasing it gradually until the errors go away. And if the error returns, increase it again. If it makes your system unstable, lower it until it returns to stability. Increments (and decrements, if necessary) of 256 would probably be wise. Getting the right balance with any system is all about trial and error - trying different things until things are running smoothly - or acceptably so in some situations. It's also about the balance between workability and stability. Sometimes you just can't have your cake and eat it too - stability must be the priority. My $0.02 there. -- Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse Hi, Indeed, the only problem is that if it's too low, then the system hangs. I guess only the network hangs. Since there is no clusters available to be used by drivers or other sockets. Normaly the system should not hangup itself because of that. Presumably if it's too high, then the 'system instability' manifests itself has hanging too, so it's tricky to tell which way to go, once you deviate from the norm ... Yes, if set too high you can run out the kernel of memory (physical or virtual) which is normaly causing a panic or freze. Anyway for the archives I'm trying 8192 currently, hopefully that will reduce the crashes... 6016 mbufs in use: 2151 mbufs allocated to data 3860 mbufs allocated to packet headers 5 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 1979/5664/8192 mbuf 2048 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 4096 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 8192 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 9216 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 12288 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 16384 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 65536 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 14048 Kbytes allocated to network (38% in use) Your allocationg a max of 8192 2k buffers or 4096 4k pages or 16MB of memory. On a modern system with 1GB of memory everything below 64MB or 128k clusters should work if you don't fiddle with other knobs that rob all memory from the kernel. -- :wq Claudio okay, sounds reasonable. I've also 'fiddled with other knobs' too, so I hope my kern.maxclusters at 8192 should not cause exhaustion conjunction with: net.inet.ip.ifq.maxlen=512 net.inet.tcp.recvspace=262144 net.inet.tcp.sendspace=262144 kern.maxfiles=8192 kern.maxclusters=8192 BTW, when the system runs out of (these?) resources, it sometimes prevents SSH access or squid use, but still keeps a CARP peering alive, preventing failover to it's backup partner, which is somewhat frustrating (I know I could script around this). On other occasions, it drops into ddb , which at least allows the CARP backup to take over duties. (I know I should file a bug report for this) /Pete
Re: FWIW Current snapshot Apache/PHP buggy
On 2010/03/01 03:48, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:01:20 + (UTC) Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2010-02-27, Duncan Patton a Campbell campb...@neotext.ca wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:58:30 -0500 Dan Harnett dan...@harnett.name wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 03:30:47AM -0700, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: I've just installed a server using current and have found that there are problems with session_destroy(); such that is just does not work. The Apache is the installed (1.3) version and PHP is from packages. I have tested the same software and setup on a 4.5 Release (no patches) and there are no problems with sessions. Can you provide any more detail? session_destroy() appears to work fine with the i386 snap dated 2/23/2010 and latest php5-core snapshot package. I mebbe spoke to soon to be conclusive... as of now I am still looking under rocks... the problem exhibits on a clean 4.5-Release install but not on my (semi stock) 4.5 development box. sessions were broken in PHP in 4.5 release, you need to compile from -stable ports (or move to -current after the next package snapshot for your arch has been built). How wide is this problem? I started out with a 4.6 current, which didn't work, then 4.5 release... sessions are a fairly important php feature. What has me bugged here is that I have a 4.5 system that works fine, but it is not just release, and has had apache2.2 installed on it (my devsys...) and runable. oh hmm, I was confused between releases, 4.6 had broken php, not 4.5. (search the list archives for php segfault for more details).
Re: kern.maxclusters: 6144 - ?
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 12:15:39PM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote: On 26. feb. 2010, at 11.58, Claudio Jeker wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:30:30AM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote: On 26. feb. 2010, at 03.01, Aaron Mason wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Pete Vickers p...@systemnet.no wrote: Hi, A proxy (squid) server running i368/4.6RELEASE with around 800 users, what would be a reasonable value to increase kern.maxclusters too, to cure this : r...@proxy-s ~ grep mcl /var/log/messages Dec 10 10:13:43 proxy-s /bsd: WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters Dec 10 11:06:07 proxy-s /bsd: WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters Dec 15 13:41:48 proxy-s /bsd: WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters r...@proxy-s ~ sysctl kern.maxclusters kern.maxclusters=6144 r...@proxy-s ~ netstat -m 4098 mbufs in use: 1131 mbufs allocated to data 2962 mbufs allocated to packet headers 5 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 1084/6152/6144 mbuf 2048 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 4096 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 8192 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 9216 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 12288 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 16384 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/6144 mbuf 65536 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 14176 Kbytes allocated to network (22% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines something like kern.maxclusters=1 or ? /Pete Only you can answer that, Pete. Try increasing it gradually until the errors go away. And if the error returns, increase it again. If it makes your system unstable, lower it until it returns to stability. Increments (and decrements, if necessary) of 256 would probably be wise. Getting the right balance with any system is all about trial and error - trying different things until things are running smoothly - or acceptably so in some situations. It's also about the balance between workability and stability. Sometimes you just can't have your cake and eat it too - stability must be the priority. My $0.02 there. -- Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse Hi, Indeed, the only problem is that if it's too low, then the system hangs. I guess only the network hangs. Since there is no clusters available to be used by drivers or other sockets. Normaly the system should not hangup itself because of that. Presumably if it's too high, then the 'system instability' manifests itself has hanging too, so it's tricky to tell which way to go, once you deviate from the norm ... Yes, if set too high you can run out the kernel of memory (physical or virtual) which is normaly causing a panic or freze. Anyway for the archives I'm trying 8192 currently, hopefully that will reduce the crashes... 6016 mbufs in use: 2151 mbufs allocated to data 3860 mbufs allocated to packet headers 5 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 1979/5664/8192 mbuf 2048 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 4096 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 8192 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 9216 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 12288 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 16384 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 65536 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 14048 Kbytes allocated to network (38% in use) Your allocationg a max of 8192 2k buffers or 4096 4k pages or 16MB of memory. On a modern system with 1GB of memory everything below 64MB or 128k clusters should work if you don't fiddle with other knobs that rob all memory from the kernel. -- :wq Claudio okay, sounds reasonable. I've also 'fiddled with other knobs' too, so I hope my kern.maxclusters at 8192 should not cause exhaustion conjunction with: net.inet.ip.ifq.maxlen=512 net.inet.tcp.recvspace=262144 net.inet.tcp.sendspace=262144 kern.maxfiles=8192 kern.maxclusters=8192 BTW, when the system runs out of (these?) resources, it sometimes prevents SSH access or squid use, but still keeps a CARP peering alive, preventing failover to it's backup partner, which is somewhat frustrating (I know I could script around this). On other occasions, it drops into ddb , which at least allows the CARP backup to take over duties. (I know I should file a bug report for this) /Pete How many tcp connections are you serving? Your high values of net.inet.tcp.recvspace and net.inet.tcp.sendspace will eat a lot of memory resources: about half an M per connection. It could very welll
Re: Average time for compiling userland? == benchmarking CPU/IO? best result for database hosting?
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:02:37AM -0600, Andres Salazar wrote: Hello, Iam confused on the different result I get when I compile userland on any machine better then a Dual Core 2.5Ghz 2GB RAM 160GB 7200 SATA / SATA ii You're not even telling us how you compile userland. How should we help ? is your obj in ram ? your tmp in ram ? are you building with make build ? make -j4 build ? something else ?
Re: IPsec 4.6 to snapshot failing
On 2010-03-01, Tony Sarendal t...@polarcap.org wrote: Good morning misc, I upgraded two devices from i386-4.6 to i386-snapshot-feb28. After the upgrade snapshot boxes are unable to communicate with the 4.6 devices when going through ipsec. snapshot-snapshot works fine. Everything looks ok except that nothing shows up on enc0 when doing 4.6--snapshot. Deleting the SA's restores connectiviy, unencrypted of course. Is this a known issue ? yes, there was a bug with hmac-sha2 which was causing interop problems with correct IPsec implementations and needed fixing, unfortunately the fix breaks backwards compatibility. you'll need to switch to e.g. hmac-sha until the 4.6 box can be upgraded.
Re: IPsec 4.6 to snapshot failing
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.orgwrote: On 2010-03-01, Tony Sarendal t...@polarcap.org wrote: Good morning misc, I upgraded two devices from i386-4.6 to i386-snapshot-feb28. After the upgrade snapshot boxes are unable to communicate with the 4.6 devices when going through ipsec. snapshot-snapshot works fine. Everything looks ok except that nothing shows up on enc0 when doing 4.6--snapshot. Deleting the SA's restores connectiviy, unencrypted of course. Is this a known issue ? yes, there was a bug with hmac-sha2 which was causing interop problems with correct IPsec implementations and needed fixing, unfortunately the fix breaks backwards compatibility. you'll need to switch to e.g. hmac-sha until the 4.6 box can be upgraded. Thanks to everyone for the quick and correct response, much appreciated. /T, with a tad of ring rust.
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 09:37:38PM -0500, STeve Andre' wrote: On Friday 26 February 2010 21:25:51 Richard Toohey wrote: On 27/02/2010, at 3:04 PM, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: Let me clear on this. Yes you can. Follow the BSD licence terms (none of which say anything about for profit) and you are fine. There is absolutely zero legal reason you cannot put together a cd of OpenBSD and sell it. The official CD has some further licencing restrictions, so if you were to copy it verbatim it would constitute a breach of these terms. But if you create your own and sell it. No problem. No problem? Maybe not (I don't know) a legal/licence problem, but you are biting the hand that feeds / killing the golden goose. http://www.openbsd.org/ The project pays for the development environment and developer events by selling CDs ... These finances ensure that OpenBSD will continue to exist ... But I sense another troll ... I don't. A lot of people are genuinely confused curious about this BSD thing, the operating system and license. The number of times I've explained (or tried to) the BSD license vs. GPL numbers in the dozens now. People here are far too quick to label questions like this as trolling. Sure, there are people who like to stir the pot up, but there are a lot more clueless people out there--clueless meaning not understanding, where we all were, at one point. FWIW - This person posted the same question to the freebsd-questions list a couple of days ago. It was handled there in basically the same way it is being handled here. There person never responded (to that list) either. So, his/her motivations (other than financial) were never revealed (too the list). I have yet to see the OP ask this question on the netBSD list. I suspect it is coming. -Neal
Re: kern.maxclusters: 6144 - ?
* Pete Vickers p...@systemnet.no [2010-03-01 12:28]: okay, sounds reasonable. I've also 'fiddled with other knobs' too, so I hope my kern.maxclusters at 8192 should not cause exhaustion conjunction with: net.inet.ip.ifq.maxlen=512 net.inet.tcp.recvspace=262144 net.inet.tcp.sendspace=262144 kern.maxfiles=8192 kern.maxclusters=8192 BTW, when the system runs out of (these?) resources, it sometimes prevents SSH access or squid use, but still keeps a CARP peering alive, preventing failover to it's backup partner, which is somewhat frustrating (I know I could script around this). this is perfectly sane and the intended bahaviour. no mbufs / clusters available - packet dropped. On other occasions, it drops into ddb , which at least allows the CARP backup to take over duties. (I know I should file a bug report for this) yes, in an idea world that doesn't happen and the system copes with the ressource shortage. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
* Peter N. M. Hansteen pe...@bsdly.net [2010-02-28 13:37]: Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de writes: except that the openbsd cd layout is not BSD licensed. you are not allowed to burn the iso and sell that. It's the layout of the official CD sets that's explicitly not BSD licensed, isn't it? The official CD sets contain a collection of packages plus matching archives of complete ports and source trees as well as the files needed for a basic install, while the installNN.iso you can download from the mirrors is just the install files for that platform. let me put it that way (I don't think anyone ever really thought about burning selling the isos): the isos carry a copyright statement, but no explicit license. thus, no permit to sell them is given. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting
Re: kern.maxclusters: 6144 - ?
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:48:50PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: * Pete Vickers p...@systemnet.no [2010-03-01 12:28]: okay, sounds reasonable. I've also 'fiddled with other knobs' too, so I hope my kern.maxclusters at 8192 should not cause exhaustion conjunction with: net.inet.ip.ifq.maxlen=512 net.inet.tcp.recvspace=262144 net.inet.tcp.sendspace=262144 kern.maxfiles=8192 kern.maxclusters=8192 BTW, when the system runs out of (these?) resources, it sometimes prevents SSH access or squid use, but still keeps a CARP peering alive, preventing failover to it's backup partner, which is somewhat frustrating (I know I could script around this). this is perfectly sane and the intended bahaviour. no mbufs / clusters available - packet dropped. Actually carp(4) still works since it sends small packets which fit in an mbuf. And we have far enough mbufs available. I'm not sure if it is carp's duty to check if a resource shortage causes a subsytem to fail. On other occasions, it drops into ddb , which at least allows the CARP backup to take over duties. (I know I should file a bug report for this) yes, in an idea world that doesn't happen and the system copes with the ressource shortage. Sometimes coping with an allocation failure is very hard. On the other hand the network stack should not panic or crash the system on resource shortage. -- :wq Claudio
Re: selling bsd in cd for profit??
Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de writes: let me put it that way (I don't think anyone ever really thought about burning selling the isos): the isos carry a copyright statement, but no explicit license. thus, no permit to sell them is given. I do believe you're right. Makes it incrementally more work for the OP to do what he wanted, but not that I care. My recommendation for anyone who wants to sell OpenBSD CDs for profit remains to set up as a reseller. - P -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Sun Fire 880 phantom disks
Hei, Upon booting either 4.6-RELEASE or 4.7-BETA on my SunFire 880 causes the kernel it to 'see' twice the correct number of physical disk. Further if I install the o/s using bsd.rd on to sd0, then upon reboot the kernel can't find the root disk. However if I install on sd12 then booting etc is fine. the machine has physically 12 disks (36GB FC-AL), which appear to be duplicated as sd0-sd11 and sd12-23. r...@sf880 ~sysctl hw.disknames hw.disknames=cd0,sd0,sd1,sd2,sd3,sd4,sd5,sd6,sd7,sd8,sd9,sd10,sd11,sd12,sd13, sd14,sd15,sd16,sd17,sd18,sd19,sd20,sd21,sd22,sd23 compare disk serial numbers : r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd0 sd0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0N1K67214DE8J r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd1 sd1: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0JHHX7214DDNK r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd12 sd12: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0N1K67214DE8J r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd13 sd13: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0JHHX7214DDNK full dmesg: console is /p...@9,70/e...@1/ser...@1,40:a Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2009 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC.MP) #53: Thu Jul 9 21:50:16 MDT 2009 dera...@sparc64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 4294967296 (4096MB) avail mem = 4140875776 (3949MB) mainbus0 at root: Sun Fire 880 cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-III (rev 5.4) @ 750 MHz cpu0: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 8192K external (512 b/l) cpu1 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-III (rev 5.4) @ 750 MHz cpu1: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 8192K external (512 b/l) memory-controller at mainbus0 not configured memory-controller at mainbus0 not configured schizo0 at mainbus0: Schizo, version 4, ign 200, bus B 0 to 1 schizo0: dvma map c000- pci0 at schizo0 siop0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c875 rev 0x04: ivec 0x21c, using 4K of on-board RAM scsibus0 at siop0: 16 targets, initiator 7 cd0 at scsibus0 targ 6 lun 0: TOSHIBA, DVD-ROM SD-M1401, 1009 SCSI2 5/cdrom removable ppb0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 DEC 21154 PCI-PCI rev 0x05 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 isp0 at pci1 dev 4 function 0 QLogic ISP2200 rev 0x05: ivec 0x218 isp0: Board Type 2200, Chip Revision 0x5, loaded F/W Revision 2.2.6 scsibus1 at isp0: 512 targets sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd0: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd1 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd1: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd2 at scsibus1 targ 2 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd2: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd3 at scsibus1 targ 3 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd3: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd4 at scsibus1 targ 4 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd4: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd5 at scsibus1 targ 5 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd5: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total ses0 at scsibus1 targ 6 lun 0: SUNW, SUNWGS INT FCBPL, 9222 SCSI3 13/enclosure services fixed sd6 at scsibus1 targ 7 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd6: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd7 at scsibus1 targ 8 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd7: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd8 at scsibus1 targ 9 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd8: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd9 at scsibus1 targ 10 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd9: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd10 at scsibus1 targ 11 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd10: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd11 at scsibus1 targ 12 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd11: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total isp1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 QLogic ISP2200 rev 0x05: ivec 0x219 isp1: Board Type 2200, Chip Revision 0x5, loaded F/W Revision 2.2.6 scsibus2 at isp1: 512 targets schizo1 at mainbus0: Schizo, version 4, ign 200, bus A 0 to 0 schizo1: dvma map c000- pci2 at schizo1 gem0 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 Sun GEM rev 0x01: ivec 0x200, address 00:03:ba:08:de:01 gentbi0 at gem0 phy 0: Generic ten-bit interface, rev. 0 isp2 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 QLogic ISP2200 rev 0x05: ivec 0x204 isp2: Board Type 2200, Chip Revision 0x5, loaded F/W Revision 2.2.6 scsibus3 at isp2: 512 targets sd12 at scsibus3 targ 0 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd12: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd13 at scsibus3 targ 1 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd13: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd14 at scsibus3 targ 2 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438
Re: OpenBGPD Multicast SAFI Support?
On 24 Feb 2010, at 17:24, Claudio Jeker wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 04:19:33PM -0500, Michael H Lambert wrote: If I'm reading the manpages and latest CVS correctly, OpenBGPD does not yet support SAFI_MULTICAST for either IPv4 or IPv6, although some of the hooks appear to be present. Does anyone have a good feel for how much effort would be required to add this functionality (or just where changes need to be made)? It looks to be the big sticking point in moving from quagga to OpenBGPD. Why are you using MBGP? Your the first requesting this. Multicast routing is totaly different from unicast routing. It will need fairly massive changes. I should add that we are just interested in MBGP when running as a route server. Michael
Re: Average time for compiling userland? == benchmarking CPU/IO? best result for database hosting?
Hello, I dont have obj on ram, or /tmp . Iam using make build. Thank you Andres On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:02:37AM -0600, Andres Salazar wrote: Hello, Iam confused on the different result I get when I compile userland on any machine better then a Dual Core 2.5Ghz 2GB RAM 160GB 7200 SATA / SATA ii You're not even telling us how you compile userland. How should we help ? is your obj in ram ? your tmp in ram ? are you building with make build ? make -j4 build ? something else ?
Re: Average time for compiling userland? == benchmarking CPU/IO? best result for database hosting?
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 09:27:36AM -0600, Andres Salazar wrote: Hello, I dont have obj on ram, or /tmp . Iam using make build. Thank you Andres On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:02:37AM -0600, Andres Salazar wrote: Hello, Iam confused on the different result I get when I compile userland on any machine better then a Dual Core 2.5Ghz 2GB RAM 160GB 7200 SATA / SATA ii You're not even telling us how you compile userland. How should we help ? is your obj in ram ? your tmp in ram ? are you building with make build ? make -j4 build ? something else ? Well, /tmp in RAM is going to make a big difference. And src/ is mostly parallel-clean. There's an unlikely race in perl, but otherwise make -jN build is going to go ~N times as fast on an n-core SMP system.
Re: kern.maxclusters: 6144 - ?
* Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com [2010-03-01 15:32]: On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:48:50PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: * Pete Vickers p...@systemnet.no [2010-03-01 12:28]: okay, sounds reasonable. I've also 'fiddled with other knobs' too, so I hope my kern.maxclusters at 8192 should not cause exhaustion conjunction with: net.inet.ip.ifq.maxlen=512 net.inet.tcp.recvspace=262144 net.inet.tcp.sendspace=262144 kern.maxfiles=8192 kern.maxclusters=8192 BTW, when the system runs out of (these?) resources, it sometimes prevents SSH access or squid use, but still keeps a CARP peering alive, preventing failover to it's backup partner, which is somewhat frustrating (I know I could script around this). this is perfectly sane and the intended bahaviour. no mbufs / clusters available - packet dropped. Actually carp(4) still works since it sends small packets which fit in an mbuf. And we have far enough mbufs available. I'm not sure if it is carp's duty to check if a resource shortage causes a subsytem to fail. of course. it is not carp's duty. if we fail over on cluster shortage the other node will be short of clusters too - bouncy bouncy. assuming we don't leak of course. On other occasions, it drops into ddb , which at least allows the CARP backup to take over duties. (I know I should file a bug report for this) yes, in an idea world that doesn't happen and the system copes with the ressource shortage. Sometimes coping with an allocation failure is very hard. On the other hand the network stack should not panic or crash the system on resource shortage. err, yes? that's exactly what i was saying. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting
Cascading pf firewalls with both nat and no nat
Hi list,
I have a working setup with 2 cascaded firewalls (OpenBSD 4.5 on my
external firewall, 4.6 on my internal firewall).
NAT is done on the external interface of the internal firewall (which
is connected to the external firewall).
Now I want to exclude one of the workstations behind the internal
firewall from NAT. This workstation should be allowed to connect to
one server only (which is connected to another interface of the
external firewall).
Intended setup is as follows:
[Indentation for better readability]
Workstation
10.1.2.2/24
gateway is 10.1.2.1
Internal firewall
10.1.2.1/24 xl0 (connected to workstation)
10.1.0.2/24 xl1 (connected to external firewall)
gateway is 10.1.0.1
External firewall
10.1.0.1/16 re0 (connected to internal firewall)
10.0.2.1/24 re1 (connected to server)
Server
10.0.2.2/24
gateway is 10.0.2.1
NAT rules on internal firewall
no nat on xl1 from 10.1.2.2 to any
nat on xl1 from any to any - 10.1.0.2
Filtering rules on internal firewall
# general rules
block all
antispoof quick for { lo xl0 xl1 }
# xl0 rules
# no quick rules before the following rule
pass in on xl0 from 10.1.2.2 to 10.0.2.1
# no block rules after the previous rule
# snip - other interfaces
# xl1 rules
# no quick rules before the following rule
pass out on xl1 from 10.1.2.2 to 10.0.2.1
# no block rules after the previous rule
Filtering rules on external firewall
# general rules
block all
antispoof quick for { lo re0 re1 }
# re0 rules
# no quick rules before the following rule
pass in on re0 from 10.1.2.2 to 10.0.2.1
# no block rules after the previous rule
# snip - other interfaces
# re1 rules
# no quick rules before the following rule
pass out on re1 from 10.1.2.2 to 10.0.2.1
# no block rules after the previous rule
This does not seem to work, however, as the workstation
cannot connect to the server (it was able to connect
with NAT).
What am I doing wrong? Any hints would be appreciated.
Thank you very much in advance.
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Re: Sun Fire 880 phantom disks
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:56:22PM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote: Hei, Upon booting either 4.6-RELEASE or 4.7-BETA on my SunFire 880 causes the kernel it to 'see' twice the correct number of physical disk. Further if I install the o/s using bsd.rd on to sd0, then upon reboot the kernel can't find the root disk. However if I install on sd12 then booting etc is fine. the machine has physically 12 disks (36GB FC-AL), which appear to be duplicated as sd0-sd11 and sd12-23. Do you have the disk in a loop that includes both ports on the 2200? That could explain why the disks are seen twice. And I believe only one WWN is saved from the boot so if it sees the same disk on the other port it may be lost. Ken r...@sf880 ~sysctl hw.disknames hw.disknames=cd0,sd0,sd1,sd2,sd3,sd4,sd5,sd6,sd7,sd8,sd9,sd10,sd11,sd12,sd13, sd14,sd15,sd16,sd17,sd18,sd19,sd20,sd21,sd22,sd23 compare disk serial numbers : r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd0 sd0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0N1K67214DE8J r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd1 sd1: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0JHHX7214DDNK r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd12 sd12: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0N1K67214DE8J r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd13 sd13: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0JHHX7214DDNK full dmesg: console is /p...@9,70/e...@1/ser...@1,40:a Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2009 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC.MP) #53: Thu Jul 9 21:50:16 MDT 2009 dera...@sparc64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 4294967296 (4096MB) avail mem = 4140875776 (3949MB) mainbus0 at root: Sun Fire 880 cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-III (rev 5.4) @ 750 MHz cpu0: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 8192K external (512 b/l) cpu1 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-III (rev 5.4) @ 750 MHz cpu1: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 8192K external (512 b/l) memory-controller at mainbus0 not configured memory-controller at mainbus0 not configured schizo0 at mainbus0: Schizo, version 4, ign 200, bus B 0 to 1 schizo0: dvma map c000- pci0 at schizo0 siop0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c875 rev 0x04: ivec 0x21c, using 4K of on-board RAM scsibus0 at siop0: 16 targets, initiator 7 cd0 at scsibus0 targ 6 lun 0: TOSHIBA, DVD-ROM SD-M1401, 1009 SCSI2 5/cdrom removable ppb0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 DEC 21154 PCI-PCI rev 0x05 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 isp0 at pci1 dev 4 function 0 QLogic ISP2200 rev 0x05: ivec 0x218 isp0: Board Type 2200, Chip Revision 0x5, loaded F/W Revision 2.2.6 scsibus1 at isp0: 512 targets sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd0: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd1 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd1: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd2 at scsibus1 targ 2 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd2: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd3 at scsibus1 targ 3 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd3: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd4 at scsibus1 targ 4 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd4: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd5 at scsibus1 targ 5 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd5: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total ses0 at scsibus1 targ 6 lun 0: SUNW, SUNWGS INT FCBPL, 9222 SCSI3 13/enclosure services fixed sd6 at scsibus1 targ 7 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd6: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd7 at scsibus1 targ 8 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd7: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd8 at scsibus1 targ 9 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd8: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd9 at scsibus1 targ 10 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd9: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd10 at scsibus1 targ 11 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd10: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd11 at scsibus1 targ 12 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd11: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total isp1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 QLogic ISP2200 rev 0x05: ivec 0x219 isp1: Board Type 2200, Chip Revision 0x5, loaded F/W Revision 2.2.6 scsibus2 at isp1: 512 targets schizo1 at mainbus0: Schizo, version 4, ign 200, bus A 0 to 0 schizo1: dvma map c000- pci2 at schizo1 gem0 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 Sun GEM rev 0x01: ivec 0x200, address 00:03:ba:08:de:01 gentbi0 at gem0 phy 0: Generic ten-bit interface, rev. 0 isp2 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 QLogic ISP2200 rev 0x05: ivec 0x204 isp2:
Re: Sun Fire 880 phantom disks
Hello, In the openfirmware env you can save only one device to boot if I remember correctly. If you want to have access to openfirmware you must set the var autoboot or something like that to NO or check the combination of key keyboard to sun web site. A printenv return all vars for your openfirmware. If you have two device that can be bootable, it is not a real problem, the path to boot device is taken from openfirmware. The problem it is probably after the boot process where openbsd detect other disk and found another disk with the same serial number and marked as bootable and this disk is already use by the current boot process. It is probably for that reason if you install on sd12 ( in fact sd0) that system can boot crorrectly. Sorry I repeat again but You must have only one path to access to the boot device. You must modify your hardware setup or install a driver to manage path access to the disk. Phil 2010/3/1 Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:56:22PM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote: Hei, Upon booting either 4.6-RELEASE or 4.7-BETA on my SunFire 880 causes the kernel it to 'see' twice the correct number of physical disk. Further if I install the o/s using bsd.rd on to sd0, then upon reboot the kernel can't find the root disk. However if I install on sd12 then booting etc is fine. the machine has physically 12 disks (36GB FC-AL), which appear to be duplicated as sd0-sd11 and sd12-23. Do you have the disk in a loop that includes both ports on the 2200? That could explain why the disks are seen twice. And I believe only one WWN is saved from the boot so if it sees the same disk on the other port it may be lost. Ken r...@sf880 ~sysctl hw.disknames hw.disknames=cd0,sd0,sd1,sd2,sd3,sd4,sd5,sd6,sd7,sd8,sd9,sd10,sd11,sd12,sd13, sd14,sd15,sd16,sd17,sd18,sd19,sd20,sd21,sd22,sd23 compare disk serial numbers : r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd0 sd0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0N1K67214DE8J r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd1 sd1: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0JHHX7214DDNK r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd12 sd12: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0N1K67214DE8J r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd13 sd13: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0JHHX7214DDNK full dmesg: console is /p...@9,70/e...@1/ser...@1,40:a Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2009 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC.MP) #53: Thu Jul 9 21:50:16 MDT 2009 dera...@sparc64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/ GENERIC.MP real mem = 4294967296 (4096MB) avail mem = 4140875776 (3949MB) mainbus0 at root: Sun Fire 880 cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-III (rev 5.4) @ 750 MHz cpu0: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 8192K external (512 b/l) cpu1 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-III (rev 5.4) @ 750 MHz cpu1: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 8192K external (512 b/l) memory-controller at mainbus0 not configured memory-controller at mainbus0 not configured schizo0 at mainbus0: Schizo, version 4, ign 200, bus B 0 to 1 schizo0: dvma map c000- pci0 at schizo0 siop0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c875 rev 0x04: ivec 0x21c, using 4K of on-board RAM scsibus0 at siop0: 16 targets, initiator 7 cd0 at scsibus0 targ 6 lun 0: TOSHIBA, DVD-ROM SD-M1401, 1009 SCSI2 5/cdrom removable ppb0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 DEC 21154 PCI-PCI rev 0x05 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 isp0 at pci1 dev 4 function 0 QLogic ISP2200 rev 0x05: ivec 0x218 isp0: Board Type 2200, Chip Revision 0x5, loaded F/W Revision 2.2.6 scsibus1 at isp0: 512 targets sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd0: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd1 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd1: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd2 at scsibus1 targ 2 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd2: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd3 at scsibus1 targ 3 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd3: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd4 at scsibus1 targ 4 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd4: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd5 at scsibus1 targ 5 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd5: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total ses0 at scsibus1 targ 6 lun 0: SUNW, SUNWGS INT FCBPL, 9222 SCSI3 13/enclosure services fixed sd6 at scsibus1 targ 7 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd6: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd7 at scsibus1 targ 8 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd7:
Re: Cascading pf firewalls with both nat and no nat
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Re: Cascading pf firewalls with both nat and no nat
Hi, Interface re0 of the external firewall is configured as 10.1.0.1/16. netstat -rn on external firewall lists 10.1/16 with flags UC. So I think that anything with a destination like 10.1.x.x would be sent there, including anything to 10.1.2.1. Am I wrong? Original-Nachricht On 01/03/2010 18:26, tsg12...@gmx.de wrote: What am I doing wrong? Any hints would be appreciated. Thank you very much in advance. Hi, Has the external fw a route to 10.1.2.1/24 ? -- GMX DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment f|r nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02
Softraid and hardrive specs.
Hi misc@ , I have installed 4.6-stable in sd0. The partition structure and hd specs are this: # disklabel sd0 # /dev/rsd0c: type: SCSI disk: da0s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 2213 total sectors: 35565080 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 boundstart: 63 boundend: 35551845 drivedata: 0 8 partitions: #size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a: 3554 63 4.2BSD 2048 163841 # / b:11782 35540063swap c: 355650800 unused # OK, the first thing strange here is the rpm value (3600). This SCSI disk have 15k rpm. How can I fix this? Or I have some hardware error? I bought another hd, and is running with this specs: # disklabel sd1 # /dev/rsd1c: type: SCSI disk: SCSI disk label: BD0186398C flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 2213 total sectors: 35565080 rpm: 1 interleave: 1 boundstart: 0 boundend: 35565080 drivedata: 0 16 partitions: #size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] c: 355650800 unused i:16002 63 unknown # This one seems to have the correct rpm value. (this hd is 10k rpm actually). My question is, can i have software based raid0 with two different rpm values (the rest specs are the same) ? If yes, can I do that with machine running and remotely? Tks a lot for your attention.
Re: Softraid and hardrive specs.
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 08:01:14PM +, x03 wrote: Hi misc@ , I have installed 4.6-stable in sd0. The partition structure and hd specs are this: # disklabel sd0 # /dev/rsd0c: type: SCSI disk: da0s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 2213 total sectors: 35565080 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 boundstart: 63 boundend: 35551845 drivedata: 0 8 partitions: #size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a: 3554 63 4.2BSD 2048 163841 # / b:11782 35540063swap c: 355650800 unused # OK, the first thing strange here is the rpm value (3600). This SCSI disk have 15k rpm. How can I fix this? Or I have some hardware error? The rpm value is ignored, and only is there for historic reasons. You can edit it if you like by using the disklabel -E and then e. You might need expert mode, don't remember if so atm. I bought another hd, and is running with this specs: # disklabel sd1 # /dev/rsd1c: type: SCSI disk: SCSI disk label: BD0186398C flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 2213 total sectors: 35565080 rpm: 1 interleave: 1 boundstart: 0 boundend: 35565080 drivedata: 0 16 partitions: #size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] c: 355650800 unused i:16002 63 unknown # This one seems to have the correct rpm value. (this hd is 10k rpm actually). My question is, can i have software based raid0 with two different rpm values (the rest specs are the same) ? If yes, can I do that with machine running and remotely? No problem. Tks a lot for your attention. -Otto
Re: Softraid and hardrive specs.
x03 wrote: Hi misc@ , I have installed 4.6-stable in sd0. The partition structure and hd specs are this: ... OK, the first thing strange here is the rpm value (3600). This SCSI disk have 15k rpm. How can I fix this? Or I have some hardware error? http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#disklabel fourth paragraph. don't, no, don't sweat it. ... This one seems to have the correct rpm value. (this hd is 10k rpm actually). My question is, can i have software based raid0 with two different rpm values (the rest specs are the same) ? of course. If yes, can I do that with machine running and remotely? yes, but I think the question you were trying to ask is more complicated than this. If you are asking if you can retrofit softraid on a system that was not set up with it originally, no (well, yes, but if you have to ask how, no. It involves free space and careful planning and backup and restore.)
Re: Softraid and hardrive specs.
Hello Yes you can build a raid0 or stripe with this two disk. I think the maximum speed for the stripe or raid0 is the speed of the slowest disk. But I think is not a good idea, In storage system we cannot build raid or stripe with disk with different speed. Just remember with stripe or raid0 there is no data protection, if one of your disk in the raid0 is broken you lost all data. For the other question I don't know. Philippe 2010/3/1 x03 x...@sgene.org Hi misc@ , I have installed 4.6-stable in sd0. The partition structure and hd specs are this: # disklabel sd0 # /dev/rsd0c: type: SCSI disk: da0s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 2213 total sectors: 35565080 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 boundstart: 63 boundend: 35551845 drivedata: 0 8 partitions: #size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a: 3554 63 4.2BSD 2048 163841 # / b:11782 35540063swap c: 355650800 unused # OK, the first thing strange here is the rpm value (3600). This SCSI disk have 15k rpm. How can I fix this? Or I have some hardware error? I bought another hd, and is running with this specs: # disklabel sd1 # /dev/rsd1c: type: SCSI disk: SCSI disk label: BD0186398C flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 2213 total sectors: 35565080 rpm: 1 interleave: 1 boundstart: 0 boundend: 35565080 drivedata: 0 16 partitions: #size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] c: 355650800 unused i:16002 63 unknown # This one seems to have the correct rpm value. (this hd is 10k rpm actually). My question is, can i have software based raid0 with two different rpm values (the rest specs are the same) ? If yes, can I do that with machine running and remotely? Tks a lot for your attention.
Re: Cascading pf firewalls with both nat and no nat
On 1 Mar 2010 at 21:01, Thomas Schwarz-Gulden wrote: Hi, Interface re0 of the external firewall is configured as 10.1.0.1/16. That's your problem, see below. netstat -rn on external firewall lists 10.1/16 with flags UC. So I think that anything with a destination like 10.1.x.x would be sent there, including anything to 10.1.2.1. Yes, BUT only if it is directly connected -- it is trying to reach 10.1.2.1 directly *without* using any gateways. Am I wrong? In a way. Original-Nachricht On 01/03/2010 18:26, tsg12...@gmx.de wrote: What am I doing wrong? Any hints would be appreciated. Thank you very much in advance. Hi, Has the external fw a route to 10.1.2.1/24 ? -- GMX DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment f|r nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02
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Re: Cascading pf firewalls with both nat and no nat
Internal firewall 10.1.2.1/24 xl0 (connected to workstation) 10.1.0.2/24 xl1 (connected to external firewall) gateway is 10.1.0.1 External firewall 10.1.0.1/16 re0 (connected to internal firewall) 10.0.2.1/24 re1 (connected to server) Your IP addresses on the firewall are messing up routing, the subnet between the 2 firewalls is overlapping the internal network connected to the internal firewall. I am assuming the use of a /16 is to allow routing to any 10.1.x.x network regardless of which router its attached to, this is very bad practice and will only lead to problems (like this one), I would recommend changing the addressing between the two FWs, and just adding routing entries into the routing table of the external FW. Also remove NAT from the internal FW as NATing between private addresses only causes problems, as you are seeing here. I know I what I am recommending is a monumental task, but it will need to be done eventually. -Christopher Ahrens
Re: Sun Fire 880 phantom disks
Hi,
The 880 is stock from Sun. I've done no hardware plumbing on it.
According to http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/806-7338-10/6jg7hm79b?a=view
You can use multipathing software to switch I/O operations from one I/O
controller to another to prepare for DR operations. With a combination of DR
and multipathing software, you can remove, replace, or deactivate a PCI
controller card with no interruption to system operation. Note that this
requires redundant hardware; that is, the system must contain an alternate I/O
controller that is connected to the same device(s) as the card being removed
or replaced
So the disk bus is connected to two controllers for redundancy, and Solaris
obviously deals with this accordingly. I guess I should config a controller
away to stop OpenBSD seeing it ? In the longer term perhaps OpenBSD scsi layer
could examine disk serial numbers, and avoid assigning device IDs to
subsequent disks with the same serial number ?
{2} ok devalias
cdrom/p...@8,70/s...@1/d...@6,0:f
tape /p...@8,70/s...@1/t...@4,0
scsix/p...@8,70/s...@1
disk /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@0,0
disk0/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@0,0
disk1/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@1,0
disk2/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@2,0
disk3/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@3,0
disk4/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@4,0
disk5/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@5,0
disk6/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@8,0
disk7/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@9,0
disk8/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@a,0
disk9/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@b,0
disk10 /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@c,0
disk11 /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@d,0
scsi /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2
net /p...@9,70/netw...@1,1
gem /p...@8,60/netw...@1
flash/p...@9,70/e...@1/flashp...@0,0
idprom /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,500030/idp...@0,a0
nvram/p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,500030/nv...@0,a0
i2c3 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,500030
i2c2 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,50002e
bbc1 /p...@9,70/e...@1/b...@1,50
i2c1 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,30
i2c0 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,2e
bbc0 /p...@9,70/e...@1/b...@1,0
rsc-console /p...@9,70/e...@1/rsc-cons...@1,3083f8
rsc-control /p...@9,70/e...@1/rsc-cont...@1,3062f8
ttyb /p...@9,70/e...@1/ser...@1,40:b
ttya /p...@9,70/e...@1/ser...@1,40:a
pci9b/p...@9,70
pci9a/p...@9,60
pci8b/p...@8,70
pci8a/p...@8,60
ebus /p...@9,70/e...@1
name aliases
/Pete
On 1. mars 2010, at 19.40, Kenneth R Westerback wrote:
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:56:22PM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote:
Hei,
Upon booting either 4.6-RELEASE or 4.7-BETA on my SunFire 880 causes the
kernel it to 'see' twice the correct number of physical disk. Further if I
install the o/s using bsd.rd on to sd0, then upon reboot the kernel can't
find the root disk. However if I install on sd12 then booting etc is fine.
the machine has physically 12 disks (36GB FC-AL), which appear to be
duplicated as sd0-sd11 and sd12-23.
Do you have the disk in a loop that includes both ports on the 2200? That
could explain why the disks are seen twice. And I believe only one WWN
is saved from the boot so if it sees the same disk on the other port
it may be lost.
Ken
r...@sf880 ~sysctl hw.disknames
hw.disknames=cd0,sd0,sd1,sd2,sd3,sd4,sd5,sd6,sd7,sd8,sd9,sd10,sd11,sd12,sd13,
sd14,sd15,sd16,sd17,sd18,sd19,sd20,sd21,sd22,sd23
compare disk serial numbers :
r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd0
sd0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0N1K67214DE8J
r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd1
sd1: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0JHHX7214DDNK
r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd12
sd12: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0N1K67214DE8J
r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd13
sd13: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0JHHX7214DDNK
full dmesg:
console is /p...@9,70/e...@1/ser...@1,40:a
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 1995-2009 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.
http://www.OpenBSD.org
OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC.MP) #53: Thu Jul 9 21:50:16 MDT 2009
Re: Sun Fire 880 phantom disks
Hi,
Just FYI:
{2} ok setenv boot-device disk0 disk1
boot-device = disk0 disk1
this boots disk0 or fails over to disk1.
/Pete
On 1. mars 2010, at 20.14, philippe aubry wrote:
In the openfirmware env you can save only one device to boot if I remember
correctly.
Re: Sun Fire 880 phantom disks
your 880 has two internal fibre loops. you see teh disks once on the first loop, and again on the second loop. i am slowly working on finishing mpath(4), which will let you see your disks once no matter how many paths you have to them. if someone could email me some spare time so i can finish working on it, that would be great. dlg On 02/03/2010, at 12:56 AM, Pete Vickers wrote: Hei, Upon booting either 4.6-RELEASE or 4.7-BETA on my SunFire 880 causes the kernel it to 'see' twice the correct number of physical disk. Further if I install the o/s using bsd.rd on to sd0, then upon reboot the kernel can't find the root disk. However if I install on sd12 then booting etc is fine. the machine has physically 12 disks (36GB FC-AL), which appear to be duplicated as sd0-sd11 and sd12-23. r...@sf880 ~sysctl hw.disknames hw.disknames=cd0,sd0,sd1,sd2,sd3,sd4,sd5,sd6,sd7,sd8,sd9,sd10,sd11,sd12,sd13, sd14,sd15,sd16,sd17,sd18,sd19,sd20,sd21,sd22,sd23 compare disk serial numbers : r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd0 sd0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0N1K67214DE8J r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd1 sd1: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0JHHX7214DDNK r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd12 sd12: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0N1K67214DE8J r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd13 sd13: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0JHHX7214DDNK full dmesg: console is /p...@9,70/e...@1/ser...@1,40:a Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2009 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC.MP) #53: Thu Jul 9 21:50:16 MDT 2009 dera...@sparc64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 4294967296 (4096MB) avail mem = 4140875776 (3949MB) mainbus0 at root: Sun Fire 880 cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-III (rev 5.4) @ 750 MHz cpu0: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 8192K external (512 b/l) cpu1 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-III (rev 5.4) @ 750 MHz cpu1: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 8192K external (512 b/l) memory-controller at mainbus0 not configured memory-controller at mainbus0 not configured schizo0 at mainbus0: Schizo, version 4, ign 200, bus B 0 to 1 schizo0: dvma map c000- pci0 at schizo0 siop0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c875 rev 0x04: ivec 0x21c, using 4K of on-board RAM scsibus0 at siop0: 16 targets, initiator 7 cd0 at scsibus0 targ 6 lun 0: TOSHIBA, DVD-ROM SD-M1401, 1009 SCSI2 5/cdrom removable ppb0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 DEC 21154 PCI-PCI rev 0x05 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 isp0 at pci1 dev 4 function 0 QLogic ISP2200 rev 0x05: ivec 0x218 isp0: Board Type 2200, Chip Revision 0x5, loaded F/W Revision 2.2.6 scsibus1 at isp0: 512 targets sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd0: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd1 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd1: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd2 at scsibus1 targ 2 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd2: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd3 at scsibus1 targ 3 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd3: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd4 at scsibus1 targ 4 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd4: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd5 at scsibus1 targ 5 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd5: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total ses0 at scsibus1 targ 6 lun 0: SUNW, SUNWGS INT FCBPL, 9222 SCSI3 13/enclosure services fixed sd6 at scsibus1 targ 7 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd6: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd7 at scsibus1 targ 8 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd7: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd8 at scsibus1 targ 9 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd8: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd9 at scsibus1 targ 10 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd9: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd10 at scsibus1 targ 11 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd10: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total sd11 at scsibus1 targ 12 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd11: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132959 sec total isp1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 QLogic ISP2200 rev 0x05: ivec 0x219 isp1: Board Type 2200, Chip Revision 0x5, loaded F/W Revision 2.2.6 scsibus2 at isp1: 512 targets schizo1 at mainbus0: Schizo, version 4, ign 200, bus A 0 to 0 schizo1: dvma map c000- pci2 at schizo1 gem0 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 Sun GEM rev 0x01: ivec 0x200, address 00:03:ba:08:de:01 gentbi0 at gem0 phy 0: Generic ten-bit interface, rev. 0 isp2 at pci2
Re: Sun Fire 880 phantom disks
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:28 PM, David Gwynne l...@animata.net wrote: your 880 has two internal fibre loops. you see teh disks once on the first loop, and again on the second loop. i am slowly working on finishing mpath(4), which will let you see your disks once no matter how many paths you have to them. if someone could email me some spare time so i can finish working on it, that would be great. Please provide specs of this spare time you need. Is it circular in shape, like one of those round tuits I used to have quite a collection of? It's not related to one of those get a life things at all, is it? -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30v_g83VHK4
Re: Sun Fire 880 phantom disks
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:44 PM, bofh goodb...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:28 PM, David Gwynne l...@animata.net wrote: your 880 has two internal fibre loops. you see teh disks once on the first loop, and again on the second loop. i am slowly working on finishing mpath(4), which will let you see your disks once no matter how many paths you have to them. if someone could email me some spare time so i can finish working on it, that would be great. Please provide specs of this spare time you need. Is it circular in shape, like one of those round tuits I used to have quite a collection of? It's not related to one of those get a life things at all, is it? I think the spare time to which he refers comes in the form of denominations. A stack of 20's 2 high might be enough time. -B
Re: Sun Fire 880 phantom disks
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 10:58:31PM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote:
Hi,
The 880 is stock from Sun. I've done no hardware plumbing on it.
According to http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/806-7338-10/6jg7hm79b?a=view
You can use multipathing software to switch I/O operations from one I/O
controller to another to prepare for DR operations. With a combination of DR
and multipathing software, you can remove, replace, or deactivate a PCI
controller card with no interruption to system operation. Note that this
requires redundant hardware; that is, the system must contain an alternate
I/O controller that is connected to the same device(s) as the card being
removed or replaced
So the disk bus is connected to two controllers for redundancy, and Solaris
obviously deals with this accordingly. I guess I should config a controller
away to stop OpenBSD seeing it ? In the longer term perhaps OpenBSD scsi
layer could examine disk serial numbers, and avoid assigning device IDs to
subsequent disks with the same serial number ?
OpenBSD already has the beginning of multi-path support, but it is
early days. man mpath(4) on -current. But at the moment if the box is
configured to allow both ports to see all the disks then you will
have to take manual action of some kind to suppress the 2nd set.
Ken
{2} ok devalias
cdrom/p...@8,70/s...@1/d...@6,0:f
tape /p...@8,70/s...@1/t...@4,0
scsix/p...@8,70/s...@1
disk /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@0,0
disk0/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@0,0
disk1/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@1,0
disk2/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@2,0
disk3/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@3,0
disk4/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@4,0
disk5/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@5,0
disk6/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@8,0
disk7/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@9,0
disk8/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@a,0
disk9/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@b,0
disk10 /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@c,0
disk11 /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@d,0
scsi /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2
net /p...@9,70/netw...@1,1
gem /p...@8,60/netw...@1
flash/p...@9,70/e...@1/flashp...@0,0
idprom /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,500030/idp...@0,a0
nvram/p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,500030/nv...@0,a0
i2c3 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,500030
i2c2 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,50002e
bbc1 /p...@9,70/e...@1/b...@1,50
i2c1 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,30
i2c0 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,2e
bbc0 /p...@9,70/e...@1/b...@1,0
rsc-console /p...@9,70/e...@1/rsc-cons...@1,3083f8
rsc-control /p...@9,70/e...@1/rsc-cont...@1,3062f8
ttyb /p...@9,70/e...@1/ser...@1,40:b
ttya /p...@9,70/e...@1/ser...@1,40:a
pci9b/p...@9,70
pci9a/p...@9,60
pci8b/p...@8,70
pci8a/p...@8,60
ebus /p...@9,70/e...@1
name aliases
/Pete
On 1. mars 2010, at 19.40, Kenneth R Westerback wrote:
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:56:22PM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote:
Hei,
Upon booting either 4.6-RELEASE or 4.7-BETA on my SunFire 880 causes the
kernel it to 'see' twice the correct number of physical disk. Further if I
install the o/s using bsd.rd on to sd0, then upon reboot the kernel can't
find the root disk. However if I install on sd12 then booting etc is fine.
the machine has physically 12 disks (36GB FC-AL), which appear to be
duplicated as sd0-sd11 and sd12-23.
Do you have the disk in a loop that includes both ports on the 2200? That
could explain why the disks are seen twice. And I believe only one WWN
is saved from the boot so if it sees the same disk on the other port
it may be lost.
Ken
r...@sf880 ~sysctl hw.disknames
hw.disknames=cd0,sd0,sd1,sd2,sd3,sd4,sd5,sd6,sd7,sd8,sd9,sd10,sd11,sd12,sd13,
sd14,sd15,sd16,sd17,sd18,sd19,sd20,sd21,sd22,sd23
compare disk serial numbers :
r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd0
sd0: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0N1K67214DE8J
r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd1
sd1: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial 3FP0JHHX7214DDNK
r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd12
sd12: SEAGATE, ST336605FSUN36G, 0438, serial
Re: File Server: fsck, memory requirements and large disk drives
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:19:57 +0100, Claus Niesen cnie...@gmx.net wrote: I'm trying to figure out the best way to setup a home file server. I have a 700MHz Celeron with 512MB RAM (maxed out), a gigabit network adapter and 1.5TB hard drive along with a few smaller ones. Currently it is set up with OpenBSD and samba. The 1.5 TB hard drive is partitioned in three equal partition so I have a chance to pass the fsck if ever needed. This setup works well, except that I have to partition the drive into smaller partitions. I really would like not to be bound by the partition size restriction. But of course I would also like to be able to reboot the server and access the data after a power failure or such. And read-only mode isn't an option either. I've done exactly this -- a large hard drive (1TB in my case) on a puny computer with specs similar to yours. fsck was do-able but extremely painful. In my case, it was also doing software RAID, but still -- it took 26 hours to mount all filesystems after an interruption. Not good. The only way around this is to (dramatically) change your block size, and then you might end up wasting a significant amount of disk depending on the type of files you're storing on it. As fond as I am of OpenBSD, this just isn't something it's very good at at the moment. (Alternatively, you could install an uninterruptible power supply with a USB connection, set up monitoring in OpenBSD, and have the machine cleanly shut itself down if the battery runs out. But that's kinda just a stopgap solution.) - R. -- [__ Robert Sheldon [__ Founder, No Problem [__ Information technology support and services [__ Software and web design and development [__ (530) 575-0278 [__ You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Mahatma Gandhi
External CARP + SSL issues
Hello everybody, I need help regarding the following situation. I have four OpenBSD firewalls configured to do load-balancing ( in and out) using ip-stealth. I have two CARP interfaces (internal and external) on each firewall. See the configuration below. Load-balancing works perfectly for non-SSL websites but I am unable to connect to secure websites (https). Any insight on what could be wrong on the configuration would be greatly appreciated. Here is my configuration: Internal CARP interfaces FW1 carp0 inet 10.50.1.1 /16 balancing ip-stealth carpnodes 11:0, 12:10, 13:25, 14:50 FW2 carp0 inet 10.50.1.1 /16 balancing ip-stealth carpnodes 11:50, 12:0, 13:10, 14:25 FW3 carp0 inet 10.50.1.1 /16 balancing ip-stealth carpnodes 11:25, 12:50, 13:0, 14:10 FW4 carp0 inet 10.50.1.1 /16 balancing ip-stealth carpnodes 11:10, 12:25, 13:50, 14:0 External CARP interfaces: FW1 carp1 inet 205.50.60.1 /27 balancing ip-stealth carpnodes 21:0, 22:10, 23:25, 24:50 FW2 carp1 inet 205.50.60.1 /27 balancing ip-stealth carpnodes 21:50, 22:0, 23:10, 24:25 FW3 carp1 inet 205.50.60.1 /27 balancing ip-stealth carpnodes 21:25, 22:50, 23:0, 24:10 FW4 carp1 inet 205.50.60.1 /27 balancing ip-stealth carpnodes 21:10, 22:25, 23:50, 24:0
Advice requested on modem WiFi for old notebook
I've inherited an old notebook (Sony Vaio PCG-FX120) and installed 4.6-release on it; while I haven't yet done extensive testing, most things (except the LoseModem, of course) seem to work (full dmesg below, and sent to dm...@openbsd.org). Now I want to add WiFi and a working modem to it and, based on looking through the dmesg and the man pages for 802.11 device drivers, there are a couple of issues I'd like to understand better before buying anything. I'd appreciate either direct answers or pointers to places which discuss this that I haven't found. (I've done some searching of the mailing list archives, but my search-fu is not strong.) Any general comments on using pcmcia vs cardbus vs USB for WiFi or a modem are also welcome. After I've narrowed the list of possible devices I plan to do more specific searching of the mailing-list archives. The system has two pcmcia/cardbus slots and 2 USB ports. What seem to me to be the relevant dmseg lines and the questions they raise are: pcmcia pcic0 at isa0 port 0x3e0/2 iomem 0xd/16384 pcic0 controller 0: Intel 82365SL rev 1 has sockets A and B pcmcia0 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 0 pcmcia1 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 1 pcic0: irq 3, polling enabled This appears to be fully functional. cardbus cbb0 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0x80: couldn't map interrupt cbb1 at pci1 dev 2 function 1 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0x80: couldn't map interrupt Since I didn't see any not configured messages for cbb*, my guess is that this is at least partly functional; is that correct? What limitations does the couldn't map interrupt message imply for WiFi or modem use? (There don't seem to be any BIOS options which affect this.) USB uhci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x03: irq 9 uhci1 at pci0 dev 31 function 4 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x03: irq 11 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 Most of the man pages for USB 802.11 drivers mention USB 2.0; at least one specifically states that USB 1.0 is not supported. Other than actually trying each one, how can I tell which of them will work with USB 1.0? Thanks for any help. Dave OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC) #58: Thu Jul 9 21:24:42 MDT 2009 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 696 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,SER,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 333475840 (318MB) avail mem = 313233408 (298MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 03/13/01, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd878, SMBIOS rev. 2.31 @ 0xd8010 (38 entries) bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies LTD version R0211U0 date 03/13/01 bios0: Sony Corporation PCG-FX120(UC) apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd860/0x7a0 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf30/176 (9 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #3 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000 0xd8000/0x4000! 0xdc000/0x4000! cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82815 Host rev 0x11 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82815 Video rev 0x11 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) intagp0 at vga1 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xf800, size 0x400 ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 mem address conflict 0x13f0/0x1000 mem address conflict 0x13f01000/0x1000 TI TSB43AA22 FireWire rev 0x02 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 not configured cbb0 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0x80: couldn't map interrupt cbb1 at pci1 dev 2 function 1 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0x80: couldn't map interrupt fxp0 at pci1 dev 8 function 0 Intel 82562 rev 0x03, i82562: irq 9, address 08:00:46:14:eb:5a inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82562ET 10/100 PHY, rev. 0 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801BAM LPC rev 0x03: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801BAM IDE rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: HITACHI_DK23BA-10 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 9590MB, 19640880 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: TOSHIBA, DVD-ROM SD-C2502, 1513 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 uhci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x03: irq 9 ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801BA SMBus rev 0x03: irq 5 iic0 at ichiic0 uhci1 at pci0 dev
Re: Advice requested on modem WiFi for old notebook
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:41 -0500, Dave Anderson d...@daveanderson.com wrote: I've inherited an old notebook (Sony Vaio PCG-FX120) and installed 4.6-release on it; while I haven't yet done extensive testing, most things (except the LoseModem, of course) seem to work (full dmesg below, and sent to dm...@openbsd.org). Now I want to add WiFi and a working modem to it and, based on looking through the dmesg and the man pages for 802.11 device drivers, there are a couple of issues I'd like to understand better before buying anything. I'd appreciate either direct answers or pointers to places which discuss this that I haven't found. (I've done some searching of the mailing list archives, but my search-fu is not strong.) Any general comments on using pcmcia vs cardbus vs USB for WiFi or a modem are also welcome. After I've narrowed the list of possible devices I plan to do more specific searching of the mailing-list archives. USB 802.11 devices work well and are inexpensive. The man pages provide specific brands with model numbers. apropos wireless and then man the drivers to find one you like. I've had good experience with rum and run based devices. Brad The system has two pcmcia/cardbus slots and 2 USB ports. What seem to me to be the relevant dmseg lines and the questions they raise are: pcmcia pcic0 at isa0 port 0x3e0/2 iomem 0xd/16384 pcic0 controller 0: Intel 82365SL rev 1 has sockets A and B pcmcia0 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 0 pcmcia1 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 1 pcic0: irq 3, polling enabled This appears to be fully functional. cardbus cbb0 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0x80: couldn't map interrupt cbb1 at pci1 dev 2 function 1 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0x80: couldn't map interrupt Since I didn't see any not configured messages for cbb*, my guess is that this is at least partly functional; is that correct? What limitations does the couldn't map interrupt message imply for WiFi or modem use? (There don't seem to be any BIOS options which affect this.) USB uhci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x03: irq 9 uhci1 at pci0 dev 31 function 4 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x03: irq 11 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 Most of the man pages for USB 802.11 drivers mention USB 2.0; at least one specifically states that USB 1.0 is not supported. Other than actually trying each one, how can I tell which of them will work with USB 1.0? Thanks for any help. Dave OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC) #58: Thu Jul 9 21:24:42 MDT 2009 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 696 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,SER,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 333475840 (318MB) avail mem = 313233408 (298MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 03/13/01, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd878, SMBIOS rev. 2.31 @ 0xd8010 (38 entries) bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies LTD version R0211U0 date 03/13/01 bios0: Sony Corporation PCG-FX120(UC) apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd860/0x7a0 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf30/176 (9 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #3 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000 0xd8000/0x4000! 0xdc000/0x4000! cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82815 Host rev 0x11 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82815 Video rev 0x11 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) intagp0 at vga1 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xf800, size 0x400 ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 mem address conflict 0x13f0/0x1000 mem address conflict 0x13f01000/0x1000 TI TSB43AA22 FireWire rev 0x02 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 not configured cbb0 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0x80: couldn't map interrupt cbb1 at pci1 dev 2 function 1 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0x80: couldn't map interrupt fxp0 at pci1 dev 8 function 0 Intel 82562 rev 0x03, i82562: irq 9, address 08:00:46:14:eb:5a inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82562ET 10/100 PHY, rev. 0 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801BAM LPC rev 0x03: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801BAM IDE rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: HITACHI_DK23BA-10 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 9590MB, 19640880 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using
Re: Softraid and hardrive specs.
Hi, Thanks for your help m...@. Have way to check each hard drive performance? I didn't installed nothing about raid related in the install. So is not possible without halting the system install a raid 1 or raid 0 right? I'm dumping the fs with dump (/sbin/dump -0 -au -f - /dev/rsd0a), if the currently disk stop working I can restore it in raid partition right? Do I need enable something in kernel to have raid 0 or 1 working in 4.6 GENERIC ? Is is possible, can someone point me a good procedure documentation to do this non-reboot or with reboot raid 1 ? Tks a lot. Nick Holland wrote: x03 wrote: Hi misc@ , I have installed 4.6-stable in sd0. The partition structure and hd specs are this: ... OK, the first thing strange here is the rpm value (3600). This SCSI disk have 15k rpm. How can I fix this? Or I have some hardware error? http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#disklabel fourth paragraph. don't, no, don't sweat it. ... This one seems to have the correct rpm value. (this hd is 10k rpm actually). My question is, can i have software based raid0 with two different rpm values (the rest specs are the same) ? of course. If yes, can I do that with machine running and remotely? yes, but I think the question you were trying to ask is more complicated than this. If you are asking if you can retrofit softraid on a system that was not set up with it originally, no (well, yes, but if you have to ask how, no. It involves free space and careful planning and backup and restore.)
Re: Sun Fire 880 phantom disks
That's spare change. If you change the 'm' to a 'r', then you can have mine.
Mehma
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On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com
wrote:
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 10:58:31PM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote:
Hi,
The 880 is stock from Sun. I've done no hardware plumbing on it.
According to
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/806-7338-10/6jg7hm79b?a=view
You can use multipathing software to switch I/O operations from one I/O
controller to another to prepare for DR operations. With a combination of DR
and multipathing software, you can remove, replace, or deactivate a PCI
controller card with no interruption to system operation. Note that this
requires redundant hardware; that is, the system must contain an alternate
I/O controller that is connected to the same device(s) as the card being
removed or replaced
So the disk bus is connected to two controllers for redundancy, and
Solaris obviously deals with this accordingly. I guess I should config a
controller away to stop OpenBSD seeing it ? In the longer term perhaps
OpenBSD scsi layer could examine disk serial numbers, and avoid assigning
device IDs to subsequent disks with the same serial number ?
OpenBSD already has the beginning of multi-path support, but it is
early days. man mpath(4) on -current. But at the moment if the box is
configured to allow both ports to see all the disks then you will
have to take manual action of some kind to suppress the 2nd set.
Ken
{2} ok devalias
cdrom/p...@8,70/s...@1/d...@6,0:f
tape /p...@8,70/s...@1/t...@4,0
scsix/p...@8,70/s...@1
disk /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@0,0
disk0/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@0,0
disk1/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@1,0
disk2/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@2,0
disk3/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@3,0
disk4/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@4,0
disk5/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@5,0
disk6/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@8,0
disk7/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@9,0
disk8/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@a,0
disk9/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@b,0
disk10 /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@c,0
disk11 /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@d,0
scsi /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2
net /p...@9,70/netw...@1,1
gem /p...@8,60/netw...@1
flash/p...@9,70/e...@1/flashp...@0,0
idprom /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,500030/idp...@0,a0
nvram/p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,500030/nv...@0,a0
i2c3 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,500030
i2c2 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,50002e
bbc1 /p...@9,70/e...@1/b...@1,50
i2c1 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,30
i2c0 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,2e
bbc0 /p...@9,70/e...@1/b...@1,0
rsc-console /p...@9,70/e...@1/rsc-cons...@1,3083f8
rsc-control /p...@9,70/e...@1/rsc-cont...@1,3062f8
ttyb /p...@9,70/e...@1/ser...@1,40:b
ttya /p...@9,70/e...@1/ser...@1,40:a
pci9b/p...@9,70
pci9a/p...@9,60
pci8b/p...@8,70
pci8a/p...@8,60
ebus /p...@9,70/e...@1
name aliases
/Pete
On 1. mars 2010, at 19.40, Kenneth R Westerback wrote:
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:56:22PM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote:
Hei,
Upon booting either 4.6-RELEASE or 4.7-BETA on my SunFire 880 causes
the
kernel it to 'see' twice the correct number of physical disk. Further
if I
install the o/s using bsd.rd on to sd0, then upon reboot the kernel
can't
find the root disk. However if I install on sd12 then booting etc is
fine.
the machine has physically 12 disks (36GB FC-AL), which appear to be
duplicated as sd0-sd11 and sd12-23.
Do you have the disk in a loop that includes both ports on the 2200?
That
could explain why the disks are seen twice. And I believe only one WWN
is saved from the boot so if it sees the same disk on the other port
it may be lost.
Ken
r...@sf880 ~sysctl hw.disknames
hw.disknames=cd0,sd0,sd1,sd2,sd3,sd4,sd5,sd6,sd7,sd8,sd9,sd10,sd11,sd12,sd13,
sd14,sd15,sd16,sd17,sd18,sd19,sd20,sd21,sd22,sd23
compare disk serial numbers :
r...@sf880 ~bioctl sd0
Re: Advice requested on modem WiFi for old notebook
Dave wrote: Since I didn't see any not configured messages for cbb*, my guess is that this is at least partly functional; is that correct? What limitations does the couldn't map interrupt message imply for WiFi or modem use? (There don't seem to be any BIOS options which affect this.) Interrupts are important, it won't be very useful without them.. not even partly. Maybe you can try using acpi? by disabling apm in UKC or via config(8)? Seems a lot of people are experiencing issues with CardBus on some laptops, have seen various CardBus disabled messages in dmesg's lately. -Bryan.
Re: Softraid and hardrive specs.
x03 wrote: Hi, Thanks for your help m...@. Have way to check each hard drive performance? take what you are interested in doing. Set it up in a batch (non- interactive) script. Use the time command to measure how long that script runs. Repeat for each configuration. Or do what most people do... argue about untested, incompletely considered bits of wisdom that may or may not apply to the situation at hand. :) I didn't installed nothing about raid related in the install. So is not possible without halting the system install a raid 1 or raid 0 right? man softraid man bioctl In general, for an install, you will have a root partition, a swap partition, anything else you don't want in RAID, then a softraid partition. You will boot your install kernel, drop to shell, create those partitions, set up the softraid device with bioctl, then run the installer and install the OS on your primary and softraid drives. Set up altroot (man daily) to have your root partition duped to the second drive on a nightly basis, so the system can come back up in degraded mode if need be (which IS the point of RAID, right?) I'm dumping the fs with dump (/sbin/dump -0 -au -f - /dev/rsd0a), if the currently disk stop working I can restore it in raid partition right? No (important concept here!), you don't restore it into a RAID partition, you will restore it to partitions on a virtual drive made up of RAID partitions. (ok, I'm getting picky here). Just grab a couple old disks and an old computer and play with it, it will become very clear quickly. Do I need enable something in kernel to have raid 0 or 1 working in 4.6 GENERIC ? softraid is in GENERIC and the RAMDISK kernels, no special work needed. Is is possible, can someone point me a good procedure documentation to do this non-reboot or with reboot raid 1 ? There is a FAQ article well on the way...but not this week. :) Your saying non-reboot implies to me that you have a system set up already that you want to implement softraid on. Not going to happen at this time, unless you left a lot of unused space on your disk (which is possible, but there are very few people who stick a 500G disk in a machine and don't allocate every last GB, no mater how many times I say BAD IDEA). Even then, you will be rebooting to find out if you did everything right. :) Nick.
Re: Advice requested on modem WiFi for old notebook
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Brad Tilley wrote: On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:41 -0500, Dave Anderson d...@daveanderson.com wrote: I've inherited an old notebook (Sony Vaio PCG-FX120) and installed 4.6-release on it; while I haven't yet done extensive testing, most things (except the LoseModem, of course) seem to work (full dmesg below, and sent to dm...@openbsd.org). Now I want to add WiFi and a working modem to it and, based on looking through the dmesg and the man pages for 802.11 device drivers, there are a couple of issues I'd like to understand better before buying anything. I'd appreciate either direct answers or pointers to places which discuss this that I haven't found. (I've done some searching of the mailing list archives, but my search-fu is not strong.) Any general comments on using pcmcia vs cardbus vs USB for WiFi or a modem are also welcome. After I've narrowed the list of possible devices I plan to do more specific searching of the mailing-list archives. USB 802.11 devices work well and are inexpensive. The man pages provide specific brands with model numbers. apropos wireless and then man the drivers to find one you like. I've had good experience with rum and run based devices. But do they work with USB 1.0, since that's the only USB I've got on this system? Most of the man pages say they support USB 2.0 (both rum and run do), though only one or two specifically state that 1.0 won't work. Thanks, Dave The system has two pcmcia/cardbus slots and 2 USB ports. What seem to me to be the relevant dmseg lines and the questions they raise are: pcmcia pcic0 at isa0 port 0x3e0/2 iomem 0xd/16384 pcic0 controller 0: Intel 82365SL rev 1 has sockets A and B pcmcia0 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 0 pcmcia1 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 1 pcic0: irq 3, polling enabled This appears to be fully functional. cardbus cbb0 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0x80: couldn't map interrupt cbb1 at pci1 dev 2 function 1 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0x80: couldn't map interrupt Since I didn't see any not configured messages for cbb*, my guess is that this is at least partly functional; is that correct? What limitations does the couldn't map interrupt message imply for WiFi or modem use? (There don't seem to be any BIOS options which affect this.) USB uhci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x03: irq 9 uhci1 at pci0 dev 31 function 4 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x03: irq 11 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 Most of the man pages for USB 802.11 drivers mention USB 2.0; at least one specifically states that USB 1.0 is not supported. Other than actually trying each one, how can I tell which of them will work with USB 1.0? Thanks for any help. Dave OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC) #58: Thu Jul 9 21:24:42 MDT 2009 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 696 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,SER,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 333475840 (318MB) avail mem = 313233408 (298MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 03/13/01, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd878, SMBIOS rev. 2.31 @ 0xd8010 (38 entries) bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies LTD version R0211U0 date 03/13/01 bios0: Sony Corporation PCG-FX120(UC) apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd860/0x7a0 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf30/176 (9 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #3 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000 0xd8000/0x4000! 0xdc000/0x4000! cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82815 Host rev 0x11 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82815 Video rev 0x11 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) intagp0 at vga1 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xf800, size 0x400 ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 mem address conflict 0x13f0/0x1000 mem address conflict 0x13f01000/0x1000 TI TSB43AA22 FireWire rev 0x02 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 not configured cbb0 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0x80: couldn't map interrupt cbb1 at pci1 dev 2 function 1 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0x80: couldn't map interrupt fxp0 at pci1 dev 8 function 0 Intel 82562 rev 0x03, i82562: irq 9, address 08:00:46:14:eb:5a inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82562ET 10/100 PHY, rev. 0 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801BAM LPC rev 0x03: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz pciide0
Re: Sun Fire 880 phantom disks
Hi,
Sorry I'm wrong for setting device boot in openfirmrware, I have checked
on old power pc, you can set more than one boot disk. On my system I can
set 4 bootable devices no more but on your sun it probably different.
If OpenBSD as the begining of multi-path support you are ok to install
with the both active loop on your sun. This is a really good features
for OpenBSD but this is a really hard works to write a multi-pathing driver.
Question for Ken : with FCAL the multi-path driver use serial number of
disk or world wide name of disk to identify a unique disk with multi-path ?
Because in Fabric mode we use world wide name and NportID ( wwn of port
switch ).
I'am not a really good with C but I work for a long time with Fibre
Channel storage, Ken are you interesting by some help or some test, I
have some old hardware not used and I can install an openBSD 4.7 or
current to do some test.
Phil
Kenneth R Westerback wrote:
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 10:58:31PM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote:
Hi,
The 880 is stock from Sun. I've done no hardware plumbing on it.
According to http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/806-7338-10/6jg7hm79b?a=view
You can use multipathing software to switch I/O operations from one I/O controller
to another to prepare for DR operations. With a combination of DR and multipathing
software, you can remove, replace, or deactivate a PCI controller card with no
interruption to system operation. Note that this requires redundant hardware; that is,
the system must contain an alternate I/O controller that is connected to the same
device(s) as the card being removed or replaced
So the disk bus is connected to two controllers for redundancy, and Solaris
obviously deals with this accordingly. I guess I should config a controller
away to stop OpenBSD seeing it ? In the longer term perhaps OpenBSD scsi layer
could examine disk serial numbers, and avoid assigning device IDs to subsequent
disks with the same serial number ?
OpenBSD already has the beginning of multi-path support, but it is
early days. man mpath(4) on -current. But at the moment if the box is
configured to allow both ports to see all the disks then you will
have to take manual action of some kind to suppress the 2nd set.
Ken
{2} ok devalias
cdrom/p...@8,70/s...@1/d...@6,0:f
tape /p...@8,70/s...@1/t...@4,0
scsix/p...@8,70/s...@1
disk /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@0,0
disk0/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@0,0
disk1/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@1,0
disk2/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@2,0
disk3/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@3,0
disk4/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@4,0
disk5/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@5,0
disk6/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@8,0
disk7/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@9,0
disk8/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@a,0
disk9/p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@b,0
disk10 /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@c,0
disk11 /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2/f...@0,0/d...@d,0
scsi /p...@8,60/SUNW,q...@2
net /p...@9,70/netw...@1,1
gem /p...@8,60/netw...@1
flash/p...@9,70/e...@1/flashp...@0,0
idprom /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,500030/idp...@0,a0
nvram/p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,500030/nv...@0,a0
i2c3 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,500030
i2c2 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,50002e
bbc1 /p...@9,70/e...@1/b...@1,50
i2c1 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,30
i2c0 /p...@9,70/e...@1/i...@1,2e
bbc0 /p...@9,70/e...@1/b...@1,0
rsc-console /p...@9,70/e...@1/rsc-cons...@1,3083f8
rsc-control /p...@9,70/e...@1/rsc-cont...@1,3062f8
ttyb /p...@9,70/e...@1/ser...@1,40:b
ttya /p...@9,70/e...@1/ser...@1,40:a
pci9b/p...@9,70
pci9a/p...@9,60
pci8b/p...@8,70
pci8a/p...@8,60
ebus /p...@9,70/e...@1
name aliases
/Pete
On 1. mars 2010, at 19.40, Kenneth R Westerback wrote:
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:56:22PM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote:
Hei,
Upon booting either 4.6-RELEASE or 4.7-BETA on my SunFire 880 causes the
kernel it to 'see' twice the correct number of physical disk. Further if I
install the o/s using bsd.rd on to sd0, then upon reboot the kernel can't
find the root disk. However if I install
Re: Advice requested on modem WiFi for old notebook
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Brynet wrote: Dave wrote: Since I didn't see any not configured messages for cbb*, my guess is that this is at least partly functional; is that correct? What limitations does the couldn't map interrupt message imply for WiFi or modem use? (There don't seem to be any BIOS options which affect this.) Interrupts are important, it won't be very useful without them.. not even partly. Interrupts are absolutely vital in many cases, but in some (much less likely these days) they really don't matter much. Since I'm not familiar with the details of cardbus or WiFi adapters, I don't know how much they matter here. (Though I strongly suspect that you're right.) Maybe you can try using acpi? by disabling apm in UKC or via config(8)? Given the various mentions recently on this list, I should have thought of trying that even though it's not (to me) an obvious connection. I'll give it a try. Seems a lot of people are experiencing issues with CardBus on some laptops, have seen various CardBus disabled messages in dmesg's lately. Thanks, Dave -- Dave Anderson d...@daveanderson.com
Problems with Build World
I'm relatively new to OpenBSD but have been working with FreeBSD for 15+ years and ATT/USL before that. I have installed OpenBSD i386 v4.6 via a boot floppy and ftp. Installed the src and sys tarballs. Rebuilt the kernel, reboot, build World, reboot. cvs -d anon...@anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs up -rOPENBSD_4_6 -Pd rebuilt kernel, reboot. all good to this point. make build fails with a ton of errors in the krb tree. I'm not as worried about the actual error...I'm sure it'll be fixed soon and I'll rebuild in a day or two...but I'm concerned about the current state of the system, and what 'make world' actually does. Does 'make world' build and install in subdirectories or does it build everything first, then install everything? Is there a way to separately build everything, then install it all? That way I'd know that all's well before actually committing to my tree. Thanks. -- Ron McDowell San Antonio TX
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Re: Problems with Build World
What are you trying to accomplish? If you want to follow -stable then use this http://www.openbsd.org/stable.html (no make world anywhere in text). If you want your own kernel then it's not supported. You can do that, but you are on your own. Still -current or snapshots are best way with OpenBSD because of its stability and good job of developers. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Ron McDowell r...@fuzzwad.org wrote: I'm relatively new to OpenBSD but have been working with FreeBSD for 15+ years and ATT/USL before that. I have installed OpenBSD i386 v4.6 via a boot floppy and ftp. Installed the src and sys tarballs. Rebuilt the kernel, reboot, build World, reboot. cvs -d anon...@anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs up -rOPENBSD_4_6 -Pd rebuilt kernel, reboot. all good to this point. make build fails with a ton of errors in the krb tree. I'm not as worried about the actual error...I'm sure it'll be fixed soon and I'll rebuild in a day or two...but I'm concerned about the current state of the system, and what 'make world' actually does. Does 'make world' build and install in subdirectories or does it build everything first, then install everything? Is there a way to separately build everything, then install it all? B That way I'd know that all's well before actually committing to my tree. Thanks. -- Ron McDowell San Antonio TX -- http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html
