Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-09 Thread SJP Lists
On 9 November 2010 04:44, Christopher Dukes pak...@pr.neotoma.org wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 14:30 -0400, Joe McDonagh wrote:
 If your Sun fails -- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility
 of 0 in my experience.

 If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of
 this hardware is as stable as a Sun.

 Not quite my experience.
 In 2001 I worked at a place with a lot of used Sun hardware courtesy of
 Fujitsu layoffs (Sparc 20s, Ultra 5s).
 Entirely too many fried ethernet ports on the sparc 20s.
 And it took too many iterations to find a sparc 20 that wouldn't crash
 and burn while building OpenBSD from source.
 A fidgety developer kicking an ultra 5 from a | orientation to a _
 orientation would reliably destroy the power supply and harddrives.
 On the bright side, I could repair the ultra 5s with power supply and
 drives scavenged from eMachines with ALI motherboards with the wonderful
 DMA that shoved garbage into memory for every OS we tried on them.

 I thought the Micro Channel based RS/6Ks (Before the horrid SMP ones
 designed by Group Bull) were a bit more bullet proof, with the only dead
 hardware I'd experience being.
 1) Rats pissing on the system boards, because the customer refused to
 keep the covers on their systems in manufacturing.
 2) A ladybird beetle invasion.
 The RT PC was pretty reliable too.  I had one manufactured in 1987 that
 was still trundling along in 2006 when I gave it away.

Maybe I got lucky, but all my Sun gear works nicely.  10x U10's/U5's,
a Blade 150, 2x Ultra 60's, 1x Ultra 80 and a Sun Fire V250.

This includes a U10 with an exploded yellow diode and the Sun Fire
V250 having been dropped (presumably in transit) causing the LOM card
to rip off the plastic from one end of it's mate connector in the
motherboard.  Not knowing that, attempting to power it up caused smoke
and a really bad feeling.  I had to do some MacGyver'ing to fix that,
but it's working fine.


Shane



Problem with syslogd - No remote logging at startup.

2010-11-09 Thread Frédéric URBAN

Hello,

I've a problem with syslogd deamon in 4.7 and 4.8.

When I setup syslogd to remote log some message in /etc/syslog.conf, it 
doesn't remote log after the boot. Processus is up and running 
(confirmed by ps command).


#ps
...
root  4386  0.0  0.0   480   796 ??  Ss10:11AM0:00.01 
syslogd: [priv] (syslogd)
_syslogd 26205  0.0  0.0   484   768 ??  S 10:11AM0:00.01 
syslogd -a /var/www/dev/log -a /var/empty/dev/log

...

I've to kill and restart syslogd with exactly the same parameters than 
shown by ps aux to get it work ...


#pkill syslogd
#syslogd -a /var/www/dev/log -a /var/empty/dev/log


I tried some change in rc.conf ie:
syslogd_flags=
syslogd_flags=-f /etc/syslog.conf
syslogd_flags=-u # Unsecure mode ...
syslogd_flags=-u -f /etc/syslog.conf # Unsecure mode ...

But nothing worked, i finally decided to go back to the stardard startup 
line:

syslogd_flags=

my sysctl.conf looks like this:

*.notice;auth,authpriv,cron,ftp,kern,lpr,mail,user.none @XXX.YYY.ZZZ.TTT
kern.debug;syslog,user.info @XXX.YYY.ZZZ.TTT
auth.info   @XXX.YYY.ZZZ.TTT
authpriv.debug  @XXX.YYY.ZZZ.TTT
cron.info   @XXX.YYY.ZZZ.TTT
daemon.info @XXX.YYY.ZZZ.TTT
ftp.info@XXX.YYY.ZZZ.TTT
lpr.debug   @XXX.YYY.ZZZ.TTT
mail.info   @XXX.YYY.ZZZ.TTT

Since the system logger start just after the network, it could be the PR 
#4044 striking again ... But it has been solved years ago ...


Any idea ? Maybe, it's really a easy stuff I forgot... Hope somebody can 
help, we don't reboot very often but we have to remind it everytime...


F.URBAN :)



Re: help

2010-11-09 Thread Alexander Schultheiß
is this you mr. jobs?

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:46 AM, steve st...@crs.com wrote:
 help



Re: (4.8) OpenBGPd sometimes does not send the routes to the peer.

2010-11-09 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:03:11 +0100,
Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com a icrit :


  Can you run a bgpctl show rib detail 129.20.0.0/16 and a bgpctl
  show table. For some reason none of the above routes got selected
  and so nothing is redistributed. It looks like the decision process
  is turned off. So it is not what I first thought the problem is.
  

Just in case:
# bgpctl show rib detail 129.20.0.0/16

BGP routing table entry for 129.20.0.0/16
Nexthop 0.0.0.0 (via 0.0.0.0) from LOCAL (193.51.184.25)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, internal, valid, announced
Last update: 15:37:39 ago

 Doh! I should read the log more carefully, the hint is there:
 
 new ktable rdomain_0 for rtableid 0
 listening on 0.0.0.0
 change to/from route-collector mode ignored
 RDE reconfigured
 
 In other words the daemon came up in route-collector mode and so no
 pathes are validated. Figured it out at the airport by just looking
 at the code and swearing.
 
 Diff is untested but I guess everyone agrees that a bit more memory
 inizialisation could help.

It looks better, I'm not able to reproduce the problem with this patch
(applied on 4.8 src).

Thanks a lot!
Regards.



Re: Current fails to build

2010-11-09 Thread Laurent CARON

On 08/11/2010 21:24, Gonzalo L. R. wrote:

Hi, try rebuild your kernel, reboot, and then rebuild the userland.



Will read the f** manual next time.

Working flawlessy.

Thanks



Re: How to test if sound is working?

2010-11-09 Thread James Hozier
 From: Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
 Subject: Re: How to test if
sound is working?
 To: misc@openbsd.org
 Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010,
4:53 AM
 On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 06:55:59PM
 -0800, James Hozier wrote:
 
 From: Fred Crowson fred.crow...@gmail.com
   Subject: Re: How to test
if
  sound is working?
   To: James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com
  
Cc:
  misc@openbsd.org
   Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 10:55 PM
  
On 8 November
  2010 22:04, James
   Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com
  
wrote:
   
$ cat
  azalia_codec.c.rej
@@ -64,6 +64,13 @@
   this-name = NULL;
  
  this-qrks = AZ_QRK_NONE;
  
switch (this-vid) {
+case
  0x10134206:
+   
this-name =
 Cirrus
   Logic CS4206;
+if
 
(this-subid ==
   0x106b4d00) {/* APPLE_MBP55 */
+   

   
  
  this-qrks |= AZ_QRK_GPIO_UNMUTE_1 |
+ 


   
  AZ_QRK_GPIO_UNMUTE_3;
+}
+break;
 
 case
  0x10ec0260:
   this-name =
 Realtek
  
ALC260;
   break;
   
What does this mean? It looks
like a snippet
 of code
   from the original
  patch
   file?
  
   Hi James,
   
   For some reason patch(1) did not insert the
 
code into
   azalia_codec.c
   - I would guess that the reason was that
patch
  file had
   some
   formatting that patch(1) did not like.
Have
 another go at
  
  creating and
   patching the file, or you
can either manually add
 those 7
   new
  lines to
   azailia_codec.c
after line 77 of azaila_codec.c
   
   Thus when you
  rebuilt your
kernel - it did not have this
   new bit of code in.
   
   hth
  
  
  Fred
   
   
  
  Hmm...added those lines to
azalia_codec.c after line
 66 (without
  the + signs in front
  of the
lines), re-compiled and rebooted but still
  nothing. I guess it's something
  else, then...but I'm curious as to why the
  patch didn't work.
 
 

judging by the formatting of your emails, the patch got
 mangled by
 your
mailer.
 
 inlining patches in email messages (as opposed to MIME

attachments)
 is part of OpenBSD culture.
 
 -- 
 jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
 SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
 
 

Yea, I don't
know why this formats weirdly. But in any case, I do know to at the very
least
to fix up the formatting in the patch file instead of just pasting the e-mail
into vi. For what it's worth, here's a small screenshot of what the file looks
like:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8076/201011090732251280x800s.png



Re: 4.8 acpi on Acer AOA110 (Aspire One)

2010-11-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-11-09, mark hellewell mark.hellew...@gmail.com wrote:
 BTW, on your Aspire One does your (built-in) keyboard occasionally fail to
 work after booting?

Mine did that sometimes, usually a few weeks apart, always accompanied
by pmsattach: disable error in dmesg (with a bit of a delay, so if you
watch the boot messages you have time to hit the power button before
disks are mounted).

I haven't seen it recently with -current so I am assuming it has most
likely been fixed by shadchin's work in pms(4).



Re: (4.8) quagga and tcp-md5 signature

2010-11-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-11-08, Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org wrote:
 Hello,

 Do you know if Quagga in OpenBSD 4.8 implements the tcp-md5
 signature (for BGP) ? Looks like it does not work.

It does not. (I don't think BIRD does either).



Re: How to test if sound is working?

2010-11-09 Thread Dmitrij Czarkoff
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:53 AM, Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
 judging by the formatting of your emails, the patch got mangled by
 your mailer.

Fred seems to be using Gmail webmail, which has an option of
downloading a message as is, without reformatting. Anyway, in my
browser messages seem to be formatted to keep at least 80 chars wide.

-- 
Dmitrij D. Czarkoff



Linux-2.6.36-libre: turning Linux's Free Bait into Free Software

2010-11-09 Thread Gjones5555
 Linux-2.6.36-libre: turning Linux's Free Bait into Free Software

http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/anuncio/2010-11-Linux-2.6.36-libre-debait.en



Re: help

2010-11-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-11-08, marko unrmn butterflyspat...@gmail.com wrote:
   I apologize for posting a general computer problem but I am using 
 OpenBSD as
 a computer. Here is my problem:

 I try to use cvs and my port number is overridden buy my ssh port. I am not
 sure where this is coming from or how to fix it. the port is say 2224 and I am
 getting the error

 cvs -qd anon...@anoncvs.ca.openbsd.org:/cvs get -rOPENBSD_4_8 -P src
 ssh: connect to host anoncvs.ca.openbsd.org port 2224: Connection timed out
 cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if
 any)

 does anyone know why I am getting this error.

 Thanks and much respect



You probably have a Port setting in the global section of .ssh/config
or /etc/ssh/ssh_config

Either add sections for the hosts which need this nonstandard port and
move the Port 2224 there - various wildcards can be used, see ssh_config(5)
- or provide an override for anoncvs.ca.openbsd.org e.g.

Host anoncvs.ca.openbsd.org
  Port 22



ospf6d doesn't announce passive interfaces

2010-11-09 Thread Jan Johansson
Hello!

We have been running with an ospfd.conf looking like this:

router-id 10.10.10.6

area 0.0.0.0 {
auth-type crypt
auth-md 1 secret
auth-md-keyid 1

interface em0   # Uplink / egress

interface carp125 { passive } # Inside on top of if vlan125
interface carp916 { passive }
interface carp943 { passive }
}

This has successfully announced the route only from the carp
MASTER avoiding assymetric routing and problems with stateful
filtering. 

I am now trying to replicate this setup for IPv6 using
ospf6d but it seems that it will only announce addresses on
active interfaces.

So what obvious difference between ospf in IPv4 and IPv6 have I
missed?

Jan J



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OpenBSD 4.8 can't find CD drive on Dell Latitude E6500

2010-11-09 Thread Leslie Jensen

Hello list.

I'm quite new to OpenBSD, have made one installation in Virtualbox plus 
an installation on a USB stick on a 32-bit pc.


Now I want to make an installation on a USB stick using the amd64 
installation CD.


The machine Dell Latitude E6500 is currently running Win7 plus FreeBSD 
8.1 in a dual boot configuration.


I removed the hard drive not to make a mistake, inserted the CD and the 
USB stick.


Installation starts, when asked how to install on the stick I those use 
the whole (w) drive.


Then comes the question of installation media and the choices are ftp 
http or done.


I can do the installation via http so I'm ok. But I am wondering how do 
I do in order to find the CD-rom drive. My plan is to install OpenBSD on 
this machine in the future.


Thanks

/Leslie



Re: How to test if sound is working?

2010-11-09 Thread James Hozier
 From: David Coppa dco...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: How to test if sound is working?
 To: James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 3:15 PM
 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:51 PM, James
 Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  It doesn't 'make' properly:
 
 Of course, because you're not using/running -current!
 
 Then, use the attached one with 4.8...
 
 ciao,
 david
 

A diff from your attached file with my original file (with the patch 
modifications manually added) shows no difference. But nonetheless I will 
attempt again. Should I update to the -CURRENT branch?



expect and spawn

2010-11-09 Thread Aaron Martinez
Hi All,

I am trying to use openbsd as my workstation here at work but one of the
tools we use, creates an expect script and it's not working at all.  The
developer of the tool uses linux primarily so he's not sure except to
tell me that the expect in openbsd doesn't know spawn which I looked and
the expect man page is loaded with stuff about spawn.

The script I try to run is this:
# cat 227254.test   
 
#!/usr/local/bin/expect -f
set timeout -1
spawn -noecho ssh -X -vvv -p 22 -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o \
UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -o GSSAPIAuthentication=no \
r...@192.168.0.10
interact {
\034 exit
}


Executing this from the command line returns the following:

# sh -x 227254.test

+ set timeout -1
+ spawn -noecho ssh -X -vvv -p 22 -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o
UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -o GSSAPIAuthentication=no
r...@192.168.0.10
227254.test[3]: spawn: not found
+ interact {
227254.test[4]: interact: not found
+ 034 exit
227254.test[5]: 034: not found
227254.test[6]: syntax error: `}' unexpected


Is the format of his expect script all wrong or?? 

Thanks,

Aaron Martinez



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-09 Thread Scott Stanley
I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of
you have much experience with Sun's amd gear?

When using the I'm only referring to Sparc disclaimer, what's being
implied here (because I know nobody's saying that hardware fails
because of the CPU type, or am I wrong on that)?

Is it that Sparc boxes are for mission critical apps, and so let's
use only the best hardware?

Anyway, I was considering buying a Sun Fire V20z (amd) as a home
server, and would like to hear about any good or bad experiences with
Sun+AMD (googling yields only media hype and performance reviews, but
not real world stuff).

-Scott


On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:08 AM, SJP Lists sjp.li...@flashbsd.net wrote:
 On 9 November 2010 04:44, Christopher Dukes pak...@pr.neotoma.org wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 14:30 -0400, Joe McDonagh wrote:
 If your Sun fails -- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility
 of 0 in my experience.

 If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of
 this hardware is as stable as a Sun.

 Not quite my experience.
 In 2001 I worked at a place with a lot of used Sun hardware courtesy of
 Fujitsu layoffs (Sparc 20s, Ultra 5s).
 Entirely too many fried ethernet ports on the sparc 20s.
 And it took too many iterations to find a sparc 20 that wouldn't crash
 and burn while building OpenBSD from source.
 A fidgety developer kicking an ultra 5 from a | orientation to a _
 orientation would reliably destroy the power supply and harddrives.
 On the bright side, I could repair the ultra 5s with power supply and
 drives scavenged from eMachines with ALI motherboards with the wonderful
 DMA that shoved garbage into memory for every OS we tried on them.

 I thought the Micro Channel based RS/6Ks (Before the horrid SMP ones
 designed by Group Bull) were a bit more bullet proof, with the only dead
 hardware I'd experience being.
 1) Rats pissing on the system boards, because the customer refused to
 keep the covers on their systems in manufacturing.
 2) A ladybird beetle invasion.
 The RT PC was pretty reliable too.  I had one manufactured in 1987 that
 was still trundling along in 2006 when I gave it away.

 Maybe I got lucky, but all my Sun gear works nicely.  10x U10's/U5's,
 a Blade 150, 2x Ultra 60's, 1x Ultra 80 and a Sun Fire V250.

 This includes a U10 with an exploded yellow diode and the Sun Fire
 V250 having been dropped (presumably in transit) causing the LOM card
 to rip off the plastic from one end of it's mate connector in the
 motherboard.  Not knowing that, attempting to power it up caused smoke
 and a really bad feeling.  I had to do some MacGyver'ing to fix that,
 but it's working fine.


 Shane



Re: OpenBSD 4.8 can't find CD drive on Dell Latitude E6500

2010-11-09 Thread Amit Kulkarni
Try with hard disk in when you are ready to install OpenBSD?

There was a thread recently where the drive mappings change with USB
sticks, based on which USB slot its inserted into. So based on that, I
would infer, don't try to install to USB. You want your OS to boot
regularly based on known configuration, and USB stick won't provide
you with fixed drive configuration. Also, its prone to die anytime!

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Leslie Jensen les...@eskk.nu wrote:
 Hello list.

 I'm quite new to OpenBSD, have made one installation in Virtualbox plus an
 installation on a USB stick on a 32-bit pc.

 Now I want to make an installation on a USB stick using the amd64
 installation CD.

 The machine Dell Latitude E6500 is currently running Win7 plus FreeBSD 8.1
 in a dual boot configuration.

 I removed the hard drive not to make a mistake, inserted the CD and the USB
 stick.

 Installation starts, when asked how to install on the stick I those use the
 whole (w) drive.

 Then comes the question of installation media and the choices are ftp http
 or done.

 I can do the installation via http so I'm ok. But I am wondering how do I do
 in order to find the CD-rom drive. My plan is to install OpenBSD on this
 machine in the future.

 Thanks

 /Leslie



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Re: OpenBSD 4.8 can't find CD drive on Dell Latitude E6500

2010-11-09 Thread Joe McDonagh
On my e4300 I had to mess with the ATA operation mode to get it to even 
boot the cd...


On 11/09/2010 10:37 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote:

Hello list.

I'm quite new to OpenBSD, have made one installation in Virtualbox 
plus an installation on a USB stick on a 32-bit pc.


Now I want to make an installation on a USB stick using the amd64 
installation CD.


The machine Dell Latitude E6500 is currently running Win7 plus FreeBSD 
8.1 in a dual boot configuration.


I removed the hard drive not to make a mistake, inserted the CD and 
the USB stick.


Installation starts, when asked how to install on the stick I those 
use the whole (w) drive.


Then comes the question of installation media and the choices are ftp 
http or done.


I can do the installation via http so I'm ok. But I am wondering how 
do I do in order to find the CD-rom drive. My plan is to install 
OpenBSD on this machine in the future.


Thanks

/Leslie




--
Joe McDonagh
AIM: YoosingYoonickz
IRC: joe-mac on freenode
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.



Re: expect and spawn

2010-11-09 Thread paul branston

On 11/09/10 15:48, Aaron Martinez wrote:

Hi All,

I am trying to use openbsd as my workstation here at work but one of the
tools we use, creates an expect script and it's not working at all.  The
developer of the tool uses linux primarily so he's not sure except to
tell me that the expect in openbsd doesn't know spawn which I looked and
the expect man page is loaded with stuff about spawn.

The script I try to run is this:
# cat 227254.test

#!/usr/local/bin/expect -f
set timeout -1
spawn -noecho ssh -X -vvv -p 22 -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o \
UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -o GSSAPIAuthentication=no \
r...@192.168.0.10
interact {
\034 exit
}


Executing this from the command line returns the following:

# sh -x 227254.test

+ set timeout -1
+ spawn -noecho ssh -X -vvv -p 22 -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o
UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -o GSSAPIAuthentication=no
r...@192.168.0.10
227254.test[3]: spawn: not found
+ interact {
227254.test[4]: interact: not found
+ 034 exit
227254.test[5]: 034: not found
227254.test[6]: syntax error: `}' unexpected


Is the format of his expect script all wrong or??

Thanks,

Aaron Martinez


   
 This might be a silly question but have you installed expect from the 
ports?  Also expect depends on tl and tcl which will be installed which 
are installed along with expect.


regards,

Paul



FFS compatibility sparc64 vs alpha vs i386

2010-11-09 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
Hi there,

I'm putting some disks on a sparc64 (ultra5), the problem is that I
don't have another spare sparc64 machine in case hardware fails.

Could I mount them on an alpha or i386 ?

I'm pretty sure that can't be done in i386 since the endianess is
different, but alpha shares the same one.

Searching through the archives it seems FFS is indeed endianess
dependent, is there any other incompatibility ?

Thanks.



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-09 Thread Amit Kulkarni
We have Sunfire Ultra 40's. I recommended those based on other people
buying Sunfire Ultra 20's, V40z, etc in our place. All Ultra 40's run
fine after 4 years and its now closer to 5 years. All of them blew
their NVidia graphic cards. The other guys have plans to dump them as
they follow 5 year refresh cycle (they might already have replaced
them). We purchased new NVidia graphics and plan to go another 2-3
years. No other problems reported. Original keyboards, mouse, LCD
screens. Whisper quiet. No dust inside that I see when I opened up for
graphics replacement.

Problem is now, you can't access Sun's website to download BIOS
upgrades, which you would need to put new 4GB RAM into them instead of
current 1GB or 2 GB sticks.

HTH

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Scott Stanley
amorphous.yet@gmail.com wrote:
 I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of
 you have much experience with Sun's amd gear?

 When using the I'm only referring to Sparc disclaimer, what's being
 implied here (because I know nobody's saying that hardware fails
 because of the CPU type, or am I wrong on that)?

 Is it that Sparc boxes are for mission critical apps, and so let's
 use only the best hardware?

 Anyway, I was considering buying a Sun Fire V20z (amd) as a home
 server, and would like to hear about any good or bad experiences with
 Sun+AMD (googling yields only media hype and performance reviews, but
 not real world stuff).

 -Scott


 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:08 AM, SJP Lists sjp.li...@flashbsd.net wrote:
 On 9 November 2010 04:44, Christopher Dukes pak...@pr.neotoma.org wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 14:30 -0400, Joe McDonagh wrote:
 If your Sun fails -- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility
 of 0 in my experience.

 If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of
 this hardware is as stable as a Sun.

 Not quite my experience.
 In 2001 I worked at a place with a lot of used Sun hardware courtesy of
 Fujitsu layoffs (Sparc 20s, Ultra 5s).
 Entirely too many fried ethernet ports on the sparc 20s.
 And it took too many iterations to find a sparc 20 that wouldn't crash
 and burn while building OpenBSD from source.
 A fidgety developer kicking an ultra 5 from a | orientation to a _
 orientation would reliably destroy the power supply and harddrives.
 On the bright side, I could repair the ultra 5s with power supply and
 drives scavenged from eMachines with ALI motherboards with the wonderful
 DMA that shoved garbage into memory for every OS we tried on them.

 I thought the Micro Channel based RS/6Ks (Before the horrid SMP ones
 designed by Group Bull) were a bit more bullet proof, with the only dead
 hardware I'd experience being.
 1) Rats pissing on the system boards, because the customer refused to
 keep the covers on their systems in manufacturing.
 2) A ladybird beetle invasion.
 The RT PC was pretty reliable too.  I had one manufactured in 1987 that
 was still trundling along in 2006 when I gave it away.

 Maybe I got lucky, but all my Sun gear works nicely.  10x U10's/U5's,
 a Blade 150, 2x Ultra 60's, 1x Ultra 80 and a Sun Fire V250.

 This includes a U10 with an exploded yellow diode and the Sun Fire
 V250 having been dropped (presumably in transit) causing the LOM card
 to rip off the plastic from one end of it's mate connector in the
 motherboard.  Not knowing that, attempting to power it up caused smoke
 and a really bad feeling.  I had to do some MacGyver'ing to fix that,
 but it's working fine.


 Shane



Re: OpenBSD 4.8 can't find CD drive on Dell Latitude E6500

2010-11-09 Thread Nick Holland

On 11/09/10 10:37, Leslie Jensen wrote:
...

Now I want to make an installation on a USB stick using the amd64
installation CD.

...

Then comes the question of installation media and the choices are ftp
http or done.

I can do the installation via http so I'm ok. But I am wondering how do
I do in order to find the CD-rom drive. My plan is to install OpenBSD on
this machine in the future.


booting from the CD is handled by the system BIOS, OpenBSD doesn't need 
to know how to access the CD to boot, as it isn't running at this point. 
 Installing from the CD requires that OpenBSD be able to access the disk.


It seems, for unknown reasons, there's something odd about your 
computer, and OpenBSD is not recognizing the CDROM.


Install via network as you propose, then post the dmesg output, 
hopefully we can figure out where your CDROM is hiding and why it won't 
come out and play.  As the CD and the disk system share the same 
interface, I wonder if your disk is going to be recognized at this point.


Nick.



Re: expect and spawn

2010-11-09 Thread Will Maier
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 09:48:15AM -0600, Aaron Martinez wrote:
 I am trying to use openbsd as my workstation here at work but one of the
 tools we use, creates an expect script and it's not working at all.  The
 developer of the tool uses linux primarily so he's not sure except to
 tell me that the expect in openbsd doesn't know spawn which I looked and
 the expect man page is loaded with stuff about spawn.
 
 The script I try to run is this:
 # cat 227254.test   
  
 #!/usr/local/bin/expect -f
 set timeout -1
 spawn -noecho ssh -X -vvv -p 22 -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o \
 UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -o GSSAPIAuthentication=no \
 r...@192.168.0.10
 interact {
 \034 exit
 }
 
 
 Executing this from the command line returns the following:
 
 # sh -x 227254.test

When invoked like this, the interpreter is sh, not expect.

-- 

Will Maier
http://will.m.aier.us/



Re: OpenBSD 4.8 can't find CD drive on Dell Latitude E6500

2010-11-09 Thread roberth
On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 12:00:28 -0500
Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:

 On 11/09/10 10:37, Leslie Jensen wrote:


 It seems, for unknown reasons, there's something odd about your 
 computer, and OpenBSD is not recognizing the CDROM.

sata dvd drive?
haven't seen any yet that do not use one of the funky glued on ide-sata
bridge chips.
puffy is not happy with those.



Re: FFS compatibility sparc64 vs alpha vs i386

2010-11-09 Thread Marco Peereboom
No.

Don't do it.

Danger Danger Danger!

On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 02:54:15PM -0200, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I'm putting some disks on a sparc64 (ultra5), the problem is that I
 don't have another spare sparc64 machine in case hardware fails.
 
 Could I mount them on an alpha or i386 ?
 
 I'm pretty sure that can't be done in i386 since the endianess is
 different, but alpha shares the same one.
 
 Searching through the archives it seems FFS is indeed endianess
 dependent, is there any other incompatibility ?
 
 Thanks.



Re: OpenBSD 4.8 can't find CD drive on Dell Latitude E6500

2010-11-09 Thread Leslie Jensen
On 2010-11-09 18:00, Nick Holland wrote:
 On 11/09/10 10:37, Leslie Jensen wrote:
 ...
 Now I want to make an installation on a USB stick using the amd64
 installation CD.
 ...
 Then comes the question of installation media and the choices are ftp
 http or done.

 I can do the installation via http so I'm ok. But I am wondering how do
 I do in order to find the CD-rom drive. My plan is to install OpenBSD on
 this machine in the future.

 booting from the CD is handled by the system BIOS, OpenBSD doesn't need
 to know how to access the CD to boot, as it isn't running at this point.
 Installing from the CD requires that OpenBSD be able to access the disk.

 It seems, for unknown reasons, there's something odd about your
 computer, and OpenBSD is not recognizing the CDROM.

 Install via network as you propose, then post the dmesg output,
 hopefully we can figure out where your CDROM is hiding and why it won't
 come out and play. As the CD and the disk system share the same
 interface, I wonder if your disk is going to be recognized at this point.

 Nick.


This is what I've done! Boot from USB stick with hard drive present, 
both i386 and amd64.

Issued command dmesg; sysctl hw.sensors  dmesg_file_name.txt

I noticed that the dmesg info did not make it to the file so I also did

dmesg  dmesg_file_name.txt

After that I booted FreeBSD and did

dmesg  dmesg_file_name.txt

The files are attached, if you need more info, let me know.

Thanks

/Leslie
hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0=39.00 degC
hw.sensors.cpu1.temp0=39.00 degC
hw.sensors.acpitz0.temp0=44.50 degC (zone temperature)
hw.sensors.acpiac0.indicator0=On (power supply)
OpenBSD 4.8 (GENERIC.MP) #335: Mon Aug 16 09:09:20 MDT 2010
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 3744780288 (3571MB)
avail mem = 3631280128 (3463MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xf6530 (57 entries)
bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A24 date 08/19/2010
bios0: Dell Inc. Latitude E6500
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET DMAR APIC ASF! MCFG TCPA SLIC SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S4) PCIE(S4) USB1(S0) USB2(S0) USB3(S0) USB4(S0) 
USB5(S0) USB6(S0) EHC2(S0) EHCI(S0) AZAL(S3) RP01(S4) RP02(S4) RP03(S4) 
RP04(S3) RP05(S3) RP06(S5) LID_(S3) PBTN(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P9500 @ 2.53GHz, 2527.40 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,NXE,LONG
cpu0: 6MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: apic clock running at 266MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P9500 @ 2.53GHz, 2527.00 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,NXE,LONG
cpu1: 6MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 2
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCIE)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (AGP_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 11 (RP01)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 12 (RP02)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 13 (RP03)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 14 (RP04)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP05)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP06)
acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 107 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: PBTN
acpibtn2 at acpi0: SBTN
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 not present
acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
acpivideo0 at acpi0: VID_
acpivout0 at acpivideo0: CRT_
acpivout1 at acpivideo0: LCD_
acpivout2 at acpivideo0: DVI_
acpivout3 at acpivideo0: DVI2
acpivout4 at acpivideo0: DP__
acpivout5 at acpivideo0: DP2_
acpivideo1 at acpi0: VID_
acpivout6 at acpivideo1: CRT_
acpivout7 at acpivideo1: LCD_
acpivout8 at acpivideo1: DP__
acpivout9 at acpivideo1: DP2_
acpivout10 at acpivideo1: DVI_
acpivout11 at acpivideo1: DVI2
acpivideo2 at acpi0: VID2
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2527 MHz: speeds: 2535, 2534, 1600, 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel GM45 Host rev 0x07
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel GM45 PCIE rev 0x07: apic 2 int 16 (irq 0)
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 NVIDIA Quadro NVS 160m rev 0xa1
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH9 IGP M AMT rev 0x03: apic 2 int 22 
(irq 11), address 00:21:70:a9:4a:12
uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 20 (irq 
10)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 21 (irq 
3)

Re: FFS compatibility sparc64 vs alpha vs i386

2010-11-09 Thread Ted Unangst
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Christiano F. Haesbaert
haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:

 I'm putting some disks on a sparc64 (ultra5), the problem is that I
 don't have another spare sparc64 machine in case hardware fails.

 Could I mount them on an alpha or i386 ?

 I'm pretty sure that can't be done in i386 since the endianess is
 different, but alpha shares the same one.

alpha is little endian.  so no, you can't mix and match.

there are also subtleties about disklabels and partition tables and
other stuff that makes moving disks around complicated, even with the
same endian archs.



Re: How to test if sound is working?

2010-11-09 Thread James Hozier
 From: David Coppa dco...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: How to test if sound is working?
 To: James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 3:53 PM
 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:43 PM, James
 Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  From: David Coppa dco...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: How to test if sound is working?
  To: James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com
  Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 3:15 PM
  On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:51 PM, James
  Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
 
   It doesn't 'make' properly:
 
  Of course, because you're not using/running
 -current!
 
  Then, use the attached one with 4.8...
 
  ciao,
  david
 
 
  A diff from your attached file with my original file
 (with the patch modifications manually added) shows no
 difference. But nonetheless I will attempt again. Should I
 update to the -CURRENT branch?
 
 Send me the dmesg of the new compiled kernel (the patched
 one), please.
 
 Btw, yes, updating to -current would be better.
 
 
 
 ciao,
 david
 

I will be updating to -current after I paste this dmesg:

OpenBSD 4.8-stable (GENERIC) #2: Tue Nov  9 10:53:36 EST 2010
r...@host:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 
f7clock_battery,ROM_cksum,config_unit,memory_size,invalid_time
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P7550 @ 2.26GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 
2.26 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
real mem  = 2926321664 (2790MB)
avail mem = 2868498432 (2735MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/29/05, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe (42 
entries)
bios0: vendor Apple Inc. version MBP55.88Z.00AC.B03.0906151708 date 06/15/09
bios0: Apple Inc. MacBookPro5,5
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET APIC APIC MCFG ASF! SBST ECDT SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices ADP1(S3) LID0(S3) EC__(S3) OHC1(S3) EHC1(S3) OHC2(S3) 
EHC2(S3) GIGE(S5)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 2500 Hz
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 265MHz
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 1
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (IXVE)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID0
acpibtn1 at acpi0: PWRB
acpibtn2 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model 3545797981023400290 type 3545797981528607052 
oem 3545797981528673619
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xe800
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2256 MHz: speeds: 2261, 2128, 1862, 1596, 798 MHz
memory map conflict 0xffc0/0x40
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
mem address conflict 0xd340/0x8
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 Host rev 0xb1
NVIDIA MCP79 Memory rev 0xb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 not configured
pcib0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 ISA rev 0xb3
NVIDIA MCP79 Memory rev 0xb1 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 not configured
nviic0 at pci0 dev 3 function 2 NVIDIA MCP79 SMBus rev 0xb1
iic0 at nviic0
sdtemp0 at iic0 addr 0x18: stts424e02
sdtemp1 at iic0 addr 0x19: stts424e02
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-8500 SO-DIMM with thermal sensor
spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-8500 SO-DIMM with thermal sensor
iic1 at nviic0
iic1: addr 0x2c 00=ff 02=08 03=f9 07=60 0d=73 71=06 86=48 90=71 91=61 92=a4 
93=79 94=31 95=3c 96=7c 97=92 9f=0c a0=39 a1=3d a2=3d a3=3d a4=3d a5=3d a6=3d 
a7=3d a8=3d a9=3d aa=3d ab=3d ac=3d ad=3d ae=3d af=3d b0=3d b1=3d b2=3d b3=3d 
b4=3d b5=3d b6=3d b7=3d b8=3d b9=3d ba=3d bb=3d bc=3d bd=3c be=7d bf=3d words 
00=ff00 01=0008 02=08f9 03=f900 04= 05= 06=0060 07=6000
NVIDIA MCP79 Memory rev 0xb1 at pci0 dev 3 function 3 not configured
vendor NVIDIA, unknown product 0x0a98 (class memory subclass RAM, rev 0xb1) 
at pci0 dev 3 function 4 not configured
NVIDIA MCP79 Co-processor rev 0xb1 at pci0 dev 3 function 5 not configured
ohci0 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 USB rev 0xb1: apic 1 int 11 (irq 
11), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci0 at pci0 dev 4 function 1 NVIDIA MCP79 USB rev 0xb1: apic 1 int 10 (irq 
10)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 NVIDIA EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ohci1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 USB rev 0xb1: apic 1 int 7 (irq 
7), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci1 at pci0 dev 6 function 1 NVIDIA MCP79 USB rev 0xb1: apic 1 int 5 (irq 5)
usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 NVIDIA EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
azalia0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 HD Audio rev 0xb1: apic 1 int 
15 (irq 15)
azalia0: codecs: Cirrus Logic CS4206
audio0 at azalia0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 PCIE rev 0xb1
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
nfe0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 LAN rev 0xb1: apic 

Re: FFS compatibility sparc64 vs alpha vs i386

2010-11-09 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:

 I'm pretty sure that can't be done in i386 since the endianess is
 different, but alpha shares the same one.

alpha is little-endian like i386.

 Searching through the archives it seems FFS is indeed endianess
 dependent, is there any other incompatibility ?

The disk labels.

-- 
Christian naddy Weisgerber  na...@mips.inka.de



Re: FFS compatibility sparc64 vs alpha vs i386

2010-11-09 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
Aww ...

Ok you got me convinced, won't dwell in it.

Thanks



Re: expect and spawn

2010-11-09 Thread Aaron Martinez
 On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 09:48:15AM -0600, Aaron Martinez wrote:
 I am trying to use openbsd as my workstation here at work but one of the
 tools we use, creates an expect script and it's not working at all.  The
 developer of the tool uses linux primarily so he's not sure except to
 tell me that the expect in openbsd doesn't know spawn which I looked and
 the expect man page is loaded with stuff about spawn.

 The script I try to run is this:
 # cat 227254.test

 #!/usr/local/bin/expect -f
 set timeout -1
 spawn -noecho ssh -X -vvv -p 22 -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o \
 UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -o GSSAPIAuthentication=no \
 r...@192.168.0.10
 interact {
 \034 exit
 }


 Executing this from the command line returns the following:

 # sh -x 227254.test

 When invoked like this, the interpreter is sh, not expect.

 --

 Will Maier
 http://will.m.aier.us/




Thanks Will,

silly question, how would then I do a good test?

Thanks.

Aaron



Re: expect and spawn

2010-11-09 Thread Aaron Martinez
 On 11/09/10 15:48, Aaron Martinez wrote:
 Hi All,

 I am trying to use openbsd as my workstation here at work but one of the
 tools we use, creates an expect script and it's not working at all.  The
 developer of the tool uses linux primarily so he's not sure except to
 tell me that the expect in openbsd doesn't know spawn which I looked and
 the expect man page is loaded with stuff about spawn.

 The script I try to run is this:
 # cat 227254.test

 #!/usr/local/bin/expect -f
 set timeout -1
 spawn -noecho ssh -X -vvv -p 22 -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o \
 UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -o GSSAPIAuthentication=no \
 r...@192.168.0.10
 interact {
 \034 exit
 }


 Executing this from the command line returns the following:

 # sh -x 227254.test

 + set timeout -1
 + spawn -noecho ssh -X -vvv -p 22 -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o
 UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -o GSSAPIAuthentication=no
 r...@192.168.0.10
 227254.test[3]: spawn: not found
 + interact {
 227254.test[4]: interact: not found
 + 034 exit
 227254.test[5]: 034: not found
 227254.test[6]: syntax error: `}' unexpected


 Is the format of his expect script all wrong or??

 Thanks,

 Aaron Martinez



   This might be a silly question but have you installed expect from the
 ports?  Also expect depends on tl and tcl which will be installed which
 are installed along with expect.

 regards,

 Paul



Hi Paul,

I do have expect installed but not via ports, I just used the packages.

Thanks.

Aaron



Re: Linux-2.6.36-libre: turning Linux's Free Bait into Free Software

2010-11-09 Thread Brynet
Why are you sending this crap here? the inclusion of binary
firmware/microcode in OpenBSD is considered acceptable so long as the
license allows for redistribution.



Re: expect and spawn

2010-11-09 Thread Aaron Martinez
 On 11/9/2010 12:00 PM, Aaron Martinez wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 09:48:15AM -0600, Aaron Martinez wrote:
 I am trying to use openbsd as my workstation here at work but one of
 the
 tools we use, creates an expect script and it's not working at all.
 The
 developer of the tool uses linux primarily so he's not sure except to
 tell me that the expect in openbsd doesn't know spawn which I looked
 and
 the expect man page is loaded with stuff about spawn.

 The script I try to run is this:
 # cat 227254.test

 #!/usr/local/bin/expect -f
 set timeout -1
 spawn -noecho ssh -X -vvv -p 22 -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o \
 UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -o GSSAPIAuthentication=no \
 r...@192.168.0.10
 interact {
 \034 exit
 }


 Executing this from the command line returns the following:

 # sh -x 227254.test

 When invoked like this, the interpreter is sh, not expect.

 --

 Will Maier
 http://will.m.aier.us/




 Thanks Will,

 silly question, how would then I do a good test?

 Thanks.

 Aaron


 # chmod 0744 227254.test
 # ./227254.test


wow, I guess i should have just tried that before asking.  Unfortunately
i'm heading out of town to a funeral won't be able to test it until
tomorrow.

Thanks jim,

Aaron



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-09 Thread Eric S Pulley
On Tue, November 9, 2010 8:55 am, Scott Stanley wrote:
 I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of
 you have much experience with Sun's amd gear?

 When using the I'm only referring to Sparc disclaimer, what's being
 implied here (because I know nobody's saying that hardware fails
 because of the CPU type, or am I wrong on that)?

 Is it that Sparc boxes are for mission critical apps, and so let's
 use only the best hardware?

 Anyway, I was considering buying a Sun Fire V20z (amd) as a home
 server, and would like to hear about any good or bad experiences with
 Sun+AMD (googling yields only media hype and performance reviews, but
 not real world stuff).


I've been using a V20z as my mail/webserver for about 4-5 years now...
absolutely fantastic OpenBSD platform... Everything supported and although
the processors are dated they are awesome for my workloads. Wish I had
about 4 more. Sorry for the lake of hard data...



Re: expect and spawn

2010-11-09 Thread Jim Lucas
On 11/9/2010 12:00 PM, Aaron Martinez wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 09:48:15AM -0600, Aaron Martinez wrote:
 I am trying to use openbsd as my workstation here at work but one of the
 tools we use, creates an expect script and it's not working at all.  The
 developer of the tool uses linux primarily so he's not sure except to
 tell me that the expect in openbsd doesn't know spawn which I looked and
 the expect man page is loaded with stuff about spawn.

 The script I try to run is this:
 # cat 227254.test

 #!/usr/local/bin/expect -f
 set timeout -1
 spawn -noecho ssh -X -vvv -p 22 -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o \
 UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -o GSSAPIAuthentication=no \
 r...@192.168.0.10
 interact {
 \034 exit
 }


 Executing this from the command line returns the following:

 # sh -x 227254.test

 When invoked like this, the interpreter is sh, not expect.

 --

 Will Maier
 http://will.m.aier.us/


 
 
 Thanks Will,
 
 silly question, how would then I do a good test?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Aaron
 

# chmod 0744 227254.test
# ./227254.test



Re: How to test if sound is working?

2010-11-09 Thread James Hozier
 From: David Coppa dco...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: How to test if sound is working?
 To: James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 3:53 PM
 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:43 PM, James
 Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  From: David Coppa dco...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: How to test if sound is working?
  To: James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com
  Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 3:15 PM
  On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:51 PM, James
  Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
 
   It doesn't 'make' properly:
 
  Of course, because you're not using/running
 -current!
 
  Then, use the attached one with 4.8...
 
  ciao,
  david
 
 
  A diff from your attached file with my original file
 (with the patch modifications manually added) shows no
 difference. But nonetheless I will attempt again. Should I
 update to the -CURRENT branch?
 
 Send me the dmesg of the new compiled kernel (the patched
 one), please.
 
 Btw, yes, updating to -current would be better.
 
 
 
 ciao,
 david
 

Here is the most recent dmesg (-CURRENT):

OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC) #0: Tue Nov  9 16:01:02 EST 2010
r...@host:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 
f7clock_battery,ROM_cksum,config_unit,memory_size,invalid_time
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P7550 @ 2.26GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 
2.26 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
real mem  = 2926321664 (2790MB)
avail mem = 2868416512 (2735MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/29/05, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe (42 
entries)
bios0: vendor Apple Inc. version MBP55.88Z.00AC.B03.0906151708 date 06/15/09
bios0: Apple Inc. MacBookPro5,5
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET APIC APIC MCFG ASF! SBST ECDT SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices ADP1(S3) LID0(S3) EC__(S3) OHC1(S3) EHC1(S3) OHC2(S3) 
EHC2(S3) GIGE(S5)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 2500 Hz
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 265MHz
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 1
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (IXVE)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID0
acpibtn1 at acpi0: PWRB
acpibtn2 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model 3545797981023400290 type 3545797981528607052 
oem 3545797981528673619
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xe800
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2256 MHz: speeds: 2261, 2128, 1862, 1596, 798 MHz
memory map conflict 0xffc0/0x40
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
mem address conflict 0xd340/0x8
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 Host rev 0xb1
NVIDIA MCP79 Memory rev 0xb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 not configured
pcib0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 ISA rev 0xb3
NVIDIA MCP79 Memory rev 0xb1 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 not configured
nviic0 at pci0 dev 3 function 2 NVIDIA MCP79 SMBus rev 0xb1
iic0 at nviic0
sdtemp0 at iic0 addr 0x18: stts424e02
sdtemp1 at iic0 addr 0x19: stts424e02
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-8500 SO-DIMM with thermal sensor
spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-8500 SO-DIMM with thermal sensor
iic1 at nviic0
iic1: addr 0x2c 00=ff 02=08 03=f9 07=60 0d=73 71=06 86=47 90=71 91=61 92=a4 
93=79 94=31 95=3c 96=7c 97=92 9f=0c a0=3d a1=3d a2=7d a3=3d a4=3d a5=3d a6=3d 
a7=3d a8=3d a9=3d aa=3d ab=3d ac=3d ad=3d ae=3d af=3d b0=3d b1=3d b2=3d b3=3d 
b4=3d b5=3d b6=3d b7=3d b8=3d b9=3d ba=3d bb=3d bc=3d bd=3d be=3d bf=3d words 
00=ff00 01=0008 02=08f9 03=f900 04= 05= 06=0060 07=6000
NVIDIA MCP79 Memory rev 0xb1 at pci0 dev 3 function 3 not configured
vendor NVIDIA, unknown product 0x0a98 (class memory subclass RAM, rev 0xb1) 
at pci0 dev 3 function 4 not configured
NVIDIA MCP79 Co-processor rev 0xb1 at pci0 dev 3 function 5 not configured
ohci0 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 USB rev 0xb1: apic 1 int 11 (irq 
11), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci0 at pci0 dev 4 function 1 NVIDIA MCP79 USB rev 0xb1: apic 1 int 10 (irq 
10)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 NVIDIA EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ohci1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 USB rev 0xb1: apic 1 int 7 (irq 
7), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci1 at pci0 dev 6 function 1 NVIDIA MCP79 USB rev 0xb1: apic 1 int 5 (irq 5)
usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 NVIDIA EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
azalia0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 HD Audio rev 0xb1: apic 1 int 
15 (irq 15)
azalia0: codecs: Cirrus Logic CS4206
audio0 at azalia0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 PCIE rev 0xb1
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
nfe0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 NVIDIA MCP79 LAN rev 0xb1: apic 1 int 14 (irq 

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-11-09, Scott Stanley amorphous.yet@gmail.com wrote:
 I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of
 you have much experience with Sun's amd gear?

 When using the I'm only referring to Sparc disclaimer, what's being
 implied here (because I know nobody's saying that hardware fails
 because of the CPU type, or am I wrong on that)?

 Is it that Sparc boxes are for mission critical apps, and so let's
 use only the best hardware?

 Anyway, I was considering buying a Sun Fire V20z (amd) as a home
 server, and would like to hear about any good or bad experiences with
 Sun+AMD (googling yields only media hype and performance reviews, but
 not real world stuff).

v20z is a newisys machine not a sun machine. (someone else also oem'd
them - maybe ibm?). the integrated disk mirroring works fine (mpi).
it can be slightly fussy about PCI cards, mine refused to boot with
an ami(4) connected.

the management port is a separate embedded linux machine (with
its own internal copy of conserver!) and has a dedicated nic,
so it does work with OpenBSD on the main machine. if you want
to use serial console iirc you'll need to disable console
redirection in the bios and just set it up in the boot loader.

disks are of course scsi and only 2, so not ideal if you want
large volumes of storage. (make sure you get the trays, they are
not the standard easily-obtainable sun spud brackets),

they're useful machines and not bad - much better than the x2100 -
but I'd hesitate to recommend almost any 1U rackmount box as a home
server due to the noise levels. For home server use I think most
people would be happier with something like an HP ML110 or one of
the smaller Dell towers with an sas/sata raid card.

OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #622: Sun Nov  7 14:57:37 MST 2010
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 4226220032 (4030MB)
avail mem = 4099817472 (3909MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.31 @ 0xefc10 (44 entries)
bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies Ltd. version V1.35.5.1 date 10/22/2008
bios0: Sun Microsystems Sun Fire V20z
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET APIC SPCR SSDT SSDT SSDT SRAT
acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S1) THOR(S1) USB0(S1) USB1(S1) Z000(S5) Z002(S5)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 252, 2592.99 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line 
16-way L2 cache
cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required
cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 252, 2592.62 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line 
16-way L2 cache
cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu1: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins
ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 3 pa 0xfd00, version 11, 4 pins
ioapic2 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfd001000, version 11, 4 pins
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 1 (THOR)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (Z000)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (Z002)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
ipmi at mainbus0 not configured
cpu0: Cool'n'Quiet K8 2592 MHz: speeds: 2600 2400 2200 2000 1800 1000 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 AMD 8111 PCI-PCI rev 0x07
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
ohci0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 AMD 8111 USB rev 0x0b: apic 2 int 19 (irq 11), 
version 1.0, legacy support
ohci1 at pci1 dev 0 function 1 AMD 8111 USB rev 0x0b: apic 2 int 19 (irq 11), 
version 1.0, legacy support
vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 Trident Blade 3D rev 0x3a
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0 AMD OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 AMD OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
amdpcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 AMD 8111 LPC rev 0x05
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 AMD 8111 IDE rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0 
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
pciide0: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 

Re-KeyGen Virtual machine from template

2010-11-09 Thread Keith
I've managed to get OpenBSD working in a virtual machine and have 
created a template to use whenever I need a new OBSD virtual server but 
I was wondering what would need to be done to each machine to make it 
unique from the other machines also produced from the same template !


Is there a way to re trigger the process that happens the first time a 
OpenBSD machine boots up where the three keys are generated ?


Thanks
Keith



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Re: Re-KeyGen Virtual machine from template

2010-11-09 Thread Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Keith ke...@scott-land.net wrote:
 I've managed to get OpenBSD working in a virtual machine and have created a
 template to use whenever I need a new OBSD virtual server but I was
 wondering what would need to be done to each machine to make it unique from
 the other machines also produced from the same template !

 Is there a way to re trigger the process that happens the first time a
 OpenBSD machine boots up where the three keys are generated ?

 Thanks
 Keith



# rm /etc/ssh/ssh*key;
# halt -p;

Then make your system image... (the keys will be autogenerated the next time
the images boot).

Saludos.



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-09 Thread Jeremy Chase
I've looked into v20z's, but was turned off by the cost of a
replacement power supply. A new one is roughly 200 USD. Or does the
v20z accept a standard 1U power supply?

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On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote:
 On 2010-11-09, Scott Stanley amorphous.yet@gmail.com wrote:
 I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of
 you have much experience with Sun's amd gear?

 When using the I'm only referring to Sparc disclaimer, what's being
 implied here (because I know nobody's saying that hardware fails
 because of the CPU type, or am I wrong on that)?

 Is it that Sparc boxes are for mission critical apps, and so let's
 use only the best hardware?

 Anyway, I was considering buying a Sun Fire V20z (amd) as a home
 server, and would like to hear about any good or bad experiences with
 Sun+AMD (googling yields only media hype and performance reviews, but
 not real world stuff).

 v20z is a newisys machine not a sun machine. (someone else also oem'd
 them - maybe ibm?). the integrated disk mirroring works fine (mpi).
 it can be slightly fussy about PCI cards, mine refused to boot with
 an ami(4) connected.

 the management port is a separate embedded linux machine (with
 its own internal copy of conserver!) and has a dedicated nic,
 so it does work with OpenBSD on the main machine. if you want
 to use serial console iirc you'll need to disable console
 redirection in the bios and just set it up in the boot loader.

 disks are of course scsi and only 2, so not ideal if you want
 large volumes of storage. (make sure you get the trays, they are
 not the standard easily-obtainable sun spud brackets),

 they're useful machines and not bad - much better than the x2100 -
 but I'd hesitate to recommend almost any 1U rackmount box as a home
 server due to the noise levels. For home server use I think most
 people would be happier with something like an HP ML110 or one of
 the smaller Dell towers with an sas/sata raid card.

 OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #622: Sun Nov B 7 14:57:37 MST 2010
 B  B dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
 real mem = 4226220032 (4030MB)
 avail mem = 4099817472 (3909MB)
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.31 @ 0xefc10 (44 entries)
 bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies Ltd. version V1.35.5.1 date 10/22/2008
 bios0: Sun Microsystems Sun Fire V20z
 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
 acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S5
 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET APIC SPCR SSDT SSDT SSDT SRAT
 acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S1) THOR(S1) USB0(S1) USB1(S1) Z000(S5) Z002(S5)
 acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
 acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
 cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
 cpu0: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 252, 2592.99 MHz
 cpu0:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
H,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
 cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line
16-way L2 cache
 cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
 cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
 cpu0: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required
 cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
 cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
 cpu1: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 252, 2592.62 MHz
 cpu1:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
H,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
 cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line
16-way L2 cache
 cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
 cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
 cpu1: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required
 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins
 ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 3 pa 0xfd00, version 11, 4 pins
 ioapic2 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfd001000, version 11, 4 pins
 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 1 (THOR)
 acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (Z000)
 acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (Z002)
 acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS
 acpicpu1 at acpi0: PSS
 acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
 ipmi at mainbus0 not configured
 cpu0: Cool'n'Quiet K8 2592 MHz: speeds: 2600 2400 2200 2000 1800 1000 MHz
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
 ppb0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 AMD 8111 PCI-PCI rev 0x07
 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
 ohci0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 AMD 8111 USB rev 0x0b: apic 2 int 19 (irq
11), version 1.0, legacy support
 ohci1 at pci1 dev 0 function 1 AMD 8111 USB rev 0x0b: apic 2 int 19 (irq
11), version 1.0, legacy support
 vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 Trident Blade 3D rev 0x3a
 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
 uhub0 at usb0 AMD OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
 usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
 uhub1 at usb1 

Re: Linux-2.6.36-libre: turning Linux's Free Bait into Free Software

2010-11-09 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 03:53:59PM -0500, Brynet said that
 Why are you sending this crap here? the inclusion of binary
 firmware/microcode in OpenBSD is considered acceptable so long as the
 license allows for redistribution.

maybe you could read first what's it about...


perhaps it would have been better for advoc...@.
i was just thinking about sending it in as well,
it's quite interesting to see what others are doing
with other open source licenses.

there is so much crap on this list, an honest OT
once in a while can only do good.

-f
-- 
what a nice night for an evening.  -- steven wright



Re: Linux-2.6.36-libre: turning Linux's Free Bait into Free Software

2010-11-09 Thread Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:14 PM, frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote:
 hmm, on Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 03:53:59PM -0500, Brynet said that
 Why are you sending this crap here? the inclusion of binary
 firmware/microcode in OpenBSD is considered acceptable so long as the
 license allows for redistribution.

 maybe you could read first what's it about...


 perhaps it would have been better for advoc...@.
 i was just thinking about sending it in as well,
 it's quite interesting to see what others are doing
 with other open source licenses.

 there is so much crap on this list, an honest OT
 once in a while can only do good.





 ...in the _firmware_ subdirectory,...

 Although the corresponding _drivers_...

firmware != drivers



Re: Linux-2.6.36-libre: turning Linux's Free Bait into Free Software

2010-11-09 Thread Damien Miller
obvious troll is obvious.

On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Gjones wrote:

  Linux-2.6.36-libre: turning Linux's Free Bait into Free Software
 
 http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/anuncio/2010-11-Linux-2.6.36-libre-debait.en



Re: Linux-2.6.36-libre: turning Linux's Free Bait into Free Software

2010-11-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 01:14:19AM +0100, frantisek holop wrote:
 hmm, on Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 03:53:59PM -0500, Brynet said that
  Why are you sending this crap here? the inclusion of binary
  firmware/microcode in OpenBSD is considered acceptable so long as the
  license allows for redistribution.
 
 maybe you could read first what's it about...

indeed.  it's condemning Torvalds and the main Linux kernel maintainers
for not being careful about firmware licenses.  the Keyspan license in
particular is a big trap that people probably aren't aware of.

 perhaps it would have been better for advoc...@.

probably, as it shows how OpenBSD is more careful about protecting
your freedom than Linux.

 i was just thinking about sending it in as well,
 it's quite interesting to see what others are doing
 with other open source licenses.
 
 there is so much crap on this list, an honest OT
 once in a while can only do good.
 
 -f
 -- 
 what a nice night for an evening.  -- steven wright

-- 
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SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



Re: OpenBSD 4.8 can't find CD drive on Dell Latitude E6500

2010-11-09 Thread Nick Holland
On 11/09/10 13:02, Leslie Jensen wrote:
 
 
 On 2010-11-09 18:00, Nick Holland wrote:
 On 11/09/10 10:37, Leslie Jensen wrote:
 ...
 Now I want to make an installation on a USB stick using the amd64
 installation CD.
 ...
 Then comes the question of installation media and the choices are ftp
 http or done.

 I can do the installation via http so I'm ok. But I am wondering how do
 I do in order to find the CD-rom drive. My plan is to install OpenBSD on
 this machine in the future.

 booting from the CD is handled by the system BIOS, OpenBSD doesn't need
 to know how to access the CD to boot, as it isn't running at this point.
 Installing from the CD requires that OpenBSD be able to access the disk.

 It seems, for unknown reasons, there's something odd about your
 computer, and OpenBSD is not recognizing the CDROM.

 Install via network as you propose, then post the dmesg output,
 hopefully we can figure out where your CDROM is hiding and why it won't
 come out and play. As the CD and the disk system share the same
 interface, I wonder if your disk is going to be recognized at this point.

 Nick.
 
 
 This is what I've done! Boot from USB stick with hard drive present, 
 both i386 and amd64.
 
 Issued command dmesg; sysctl hw.sensors  dmesg_file_name.txt
 
 I noticed that the dmesg info did not make it to the file so I also did
 
 dmesg  dmesg_file_name.txt
 
 After that I booted FreeBSD and did
 
 dmesg  dmesg_file_name.txt
 
 The files are attached, if you need more info, let me know.
 
 Thanks
 
 /Leslie

Interesting.  No disks at all, hard or optical.

I think the clue might be here:
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82081HBM RAID rev 0x03: DMA, channel 
0 wired to native-PCI, channel 1 wired to native-PCI
pciide0: using apic 2 int 19 (irq 10) for native-PCI interrupt

I'm wondering if this little bit might be the issue:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade48.html#ahci-raid

# ahci(4) no longer attaches to RAID-mode disks:
To avoid risk of corrupting metadata on certain Intel RAID 
devices, ahci(4) no longer attaches to the PCI device IDs
used by these controllers when set to RAID mode. If your
SATA disk is attached to a ahci(4) contoller in RAID mode,
it will vanish as part of the upgrade and require resetting
the BIOS controller type to AHCI to get it back.

Does your BIOS, by any chance, have a RAID mode option?  Seems
kinda odd for a laptop, but I'm short of other ideas, and that
sure sounds like it fits.  This is new for 4.8, you might want
to try booting a 4.7 bsd.rd kernel and see if that sees your
disks.

Nick.



Re: expect and spawn

2010-11-09 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Aaron Martinez on Tue, 09 Nov 2010 09:48:15 CST:

 # sh -x 227254.test

Why are you telling sh to interpret an expect script? Why not try:

$ expect 227254.text

 227254.test[3]: spawn: not found
 + interact {
 227254.test[4]: interact: not found
 + 034 exit
 227254.test[5]: 034: not found
 227254.test[6]: syntax error: `}' unexpected

These  errors are  all  produced by  sh.  sh is  trying  to execute  the
commands in 227254.test  and is it any wonder that  it doesn't recognize
the words spawn, interact, 034, and says there is a syntax error?

 Is the format of his expect script all wrong or??

No, you are using the wrong interpreter.

Andy



swfdec and Firefox 3.6.8

2010-11-09 Thread Predrag Punosevac
I just installed swfdec-0.8.4 on 4.8 (i386) snapshot of 22nd of August
(should be epsilon close to release) and I do not see the plugin when 
I type

about:plugins

nor in 

/usr/local/mozilla-firefox/plugins

I do not recall manually linking libswfdecmozilla.so to 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so on 4.6 release 
(amd64). Swfdec actually used to work fairly well for me at that time (
I know that the development has ceased almost two years ago).

Does swfdec-0.8.4 even work on Firefox 3.6.8? Also has anybody being
able to use swfdec-0.8.4 on Midori? 

Cheers,
Predrag



Re: swfdec and Firefox 3.6.8

2010-11-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 11:07:20PM -0500, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
 I just installed swfdec-0.8.4 on 4.8 (i386) snapshot of 22nd of August
 (should be epsilon close to release) and I do not see the plugin when 
 I type
 
 about:plugins
 
 nor in 
 
 /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/plugins
 
 I do not recall manually linking libswfdecmozilla.so to 
 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so on 4.6 release 
 (amd64). Swfdec actually used to work fairly well for me at that time (
 I know that the development has ceased almost two years ago).
 
 Does swfdec-0.8.4 even work on Firefox 3.6.8? Also has anybody being
 able to use swfdec-0.8.4 on Midori? 
 
 Cheers,
 Predrag

the plugin is in the swfdec-plugin package.  did you install that?

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Re: swfdec and Firefox 3.6.8

2010-11-09 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Jacob Meuser wrote:
 the plugin is in the swfdec-plugin package.  did you install that?

I forgot. As soon as you mentioned, I recall I asked you the same
question year and a half ago. I am a moron!!! 

Thanks Jake and sorry for the noise.

Predrag



Remuneración de Personal 27 de Noviembre, Guadalajara, Jalisco.

2010-11-09 Thread Lizzete Pacheco
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Presenta

Taller de Estrategias de Remuneracisn de Personal

Retencisn de Talento  Generador de Utilidades

27 de Noviembre, Guadalajara, Jal.

10 Horas de Capacitacisn Efectiva

Impartidas por nuestro consultor L.C.P. Gustavo Rangel

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asegurarse de que sus empleados son productivos y que estin deseosos de
hacer el mejor trabajo posible, sin duda el capital humano

es el activo mas importante, por lo mismo es necesario tener una
estrategia de remuneracisn orientando su metodologma a los resultados de
la empresa, esto sin incrementar la carga fiscal y a la vez generar en su
personal ese sentido de pertenencia y motivacisn al crecimiento.

Beneficios para usted:

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-Asegurar Remuneraciones exitosas y equitativas que fortalezcan las
relaciones de su equipo de trabajo.

-Crear situaciones que permitan a su personal saber y sentir que cumplis
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Re: swfdec and Firefox 3.6.8

2010-11-09 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Predrag Punosevac
punoseva...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just installed swfdec-0.8.4 on 4.8 (i386) snapshot of 22nd of August
 (should be epsilon close to release) and I do not see the plugin when
 I type

 about:plugins

 nor in

 /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/plugins

 I do not recall manually linking libswfdecmozilla.so to
 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so on 4.6 release
 (amd64). Swfdec actually used to work fairly well for me at that time (
 I know that the development has ceased almost two years ago).

 Does swfdec-0.8.4 even work on Firefox 3.6.8? Also has anybody being
 able to use swfdec-0.8.4 on Midori?

There is new gnash on current which runs very well (when comparing to
older versions)

http://www.gnashdev.org/?q=node/76


 Cheers,
 Predrag



ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-09 Thread Ersin Akinci
Hi,

I recently upgraded my ports tree from 4.8 release to current, but now
it's not detecting any dependency packages in my PKG_PATH.  PKG_PATH
is set to the main openbsd.org package site and pkg_add works
perfectly fine.  I did notice that I was trying to use ports earlier
tonight with a different PKG_PATH set to a mirror that was apparently
offline, and that's when I changed it to the master site.  Is ports
perhaps remembering the wrong site?

Valete,
Ersin

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Cierre de Inscripciones: Integración de la Factura Electrónica en su empresa, 15 de Noviembre D.F.

2010-11-09 Thread Katya Robles
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Presenta

Integracisn de la Factura Electrsnica en las Empresas

15 Noviembre, Mixico D.F.

10 Horas de Capacitacisn Efectiva

Impartidas por nuestro consultor L.C.P. Gustavo Rangel

PMS Capacitacisn Efectiva de Mixico . le presenta este seminario que
tiene como objetivo brindar al Contribuyente elementos de conocimiento de
la nueva Disposicisn Fiscal, su operacisn, ventajas y opciones para la
toma de decisiones.

Interpretar de forma sencilla las Reglas de Operacisn dictadas por el
SAT, origen de las mismas y la manera en que influyen de cada una de las
modalidades de Tributacisn en nuestro Pams.

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electrsnica.

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-Se revisaran los esquemas actuales y las opciones que se tienen para la
correcta aplicacisn de la Norma Tributaria.

-Se visitaran los portales que ofrecen las Autoridades Tributarias para
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-Se analizaran los fundamentos legales que dieron origen.

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Fmsicas o Morales, en cualquier modalidad de tributacisn que expidan
comprobantes fiscales, a fin de conocer los nuevos mecanismos de
comprobacisn y de qui forma impactan en mi negocio.

Ventajas de asistir a nuestro seminario:

Es la forma mas efectiva para mantenerse a la vanguardia, le brindara
estrategias aplicables en su organizacisn, ademas del experto consultor,
usted retroalimentara experiencias con participantes de mzltiples
empresas que le daran un enfoque diferente y soluciones exitosas.

!Promociones Especiales para grupos!

Capacitacisn Impartida por: L.C.P. Gustavo Rangel

Pms Capacitacisn Efectiva de Mixico presenta:

Integracisn de la Factura Electrsnica en las Empresas

Experto Consultor L.C.P. Gustavo Rangel

Empresa Registrada ante la STPS Reg. COLG640205CP30005

Mayores informes responda este correo electrsnico con los siguientes
datos.

Empresa:

Nombre:

Telifono:

Email:

Nzmero de Interesados:

Y en breve le haremos llegar la informacisn completa del evento.

O bien comunmquense a nuestros telifonos un ejecutivo con gusto le
atendera

Tels. (33) 8851-2365, (33)8851-2741.

Copyright (C) 2010, PMS Capacitacisn Efectiva de Mixico S.C. Derechos
Reservados. PMS de Mixico, El logo de PMS de Mixico son marcas
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Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-09 Thread Ersin Akinci
 read this first http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html

 ports don't use PKG_PATH, but AnonCVS for updates/upgrades. Ports are
 using PKG_PATH only when you set FETCH_PACKAGES see here
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=portssektion=7

Sorry, I should have specified that I have FETCH_PACKAGES=Yes in /etc/mk.conf.

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Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-09 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Ersin Akinci ersin.aki...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I recently upgraded my ports tree from 4.8 release to current, but now
 it's not detecting any dependency packages in my PKG_PATH. B PKG_PATH
 is set to the main openbsd.org package site and pkg_add works
 perfectly fine. B I did notice that I was trying to use ports earlier
 tonight with a different PKG_PATH set to a mirror that was apparently
 offline, and that's when I changed it to the master site. B Is ports
 perhaps remembering the wrong site?

read this first http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html

ports don't use PKG_PATH, but AnonCVS for updates/upgrades. Ports are
using PKG_PATH only when you set FETCH_PACKAGES see here
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=portssektion=7


 Valete,
 Ersin

 --
 Ersin Y. Akinci -- ersinakinci.com

 What Digital Revolution? -- www.whatdigitalrevolution.com
 Thinking critically about digital worlds.



Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-09 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Ersin Akinci ersin.aki...@gmail.com wrote:
 read this first http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html

 ports don't use PKG_PATH, but AnonCVS for updates/upgrades. Ports are
 using PKG_PATH only when you set FETCH_PACKAGES see here
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=portssektion=7

 Sorry, I should have specified that I have FETCH_PACKAGES=Yes in /etc/mk.conf.

But you wrote that you upgraded ports from release to current. Did you
upgrade your system to current too?

Every time use mirrors for packages, it saves bandwidth and you can
have couple of them in PKG_PATH.


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