Write Apt and Accurate English (adv)

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Re: build from source vs. rc.d files

2011-07-25 Thread Ing. Alexander
Hello,

thank you all for your binary upgrade responses, but I do not think
that it is the right method for my conditions.

My machines are about 500km away and my remote access is solved by
openvpn clients. Physical access to them and booting from external CD
(or other installXX.iso image) is possible - hopefully only about once a
year.

Quick look into /usr/src/etc/Makefile reveals, that only way to install
rc.d scripts are through make distribution-etc-root-var, which is
called by make release (so here is that binary upgrade), but not by
make install or make build.

So,
1) is there any way to do binary upgrade from release files without
loosing remote connectivity?
2) upgrade from source will be no more supported for obsd5 ?
3) if I do that cp/chmod/chgrp for /etc/rc.d/* files by hand, what else
will be missing in upgraded system?

Alexander

On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 15:49 +0200, Alexander KrE!ek wrote:
 Hello,
 
 may be this is something I simply overlooked, but I found out (hard way)
 that my way of building/updating -current system from source (FAQ 5.3 +
 FAQ 5.5 w/o Making a release + sysmerge) left my system without
 new /etc/rc.d/ startup files (and may be some else).
 
 Is this a) bug, b) documented feature, or c) my stupidity?
 If c) is right, what is the right way of complete upgrade -current
 system from source?
 
 Alexander



Re: PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-25 Thread Tomas Vavrys
Well, I haven't chosen word break wisely, instead I meant I don't
want to reinstall my PC for work (different OS). I rather need new pc
for my personal use at home.

Anyway, thank you for your responses. I have got a better picture now
and as Nick said I will try several architectures, my original
intention was to learn more about microprocessors at low level.

2011/7/25 Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net:
 On 07/24/11 07:27, Tomas Vavrys wrote:
 Hello,

 I am looking for a new cheap PC for assembly learning purposes,
 because I don't want to break my current workstation.

 I was thinking about

http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/nl_NL/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Pr
oducts/CFL-006

 but I am a little bit worried about current status All on-board
 devices are supported, but the framebuffer is currently limited to the
 640x400x8 video mode set up by the firmware. What is the status in
 -current at the moment?

 This device will be used only for my learning purposes. I would like
 to jump on C and compilers later. Is it better to start with RISC or
 CISC? Should I buy rather x86?

 yes

 I'm assuming you mean assembly language, not putting hardware together...

 If so, what's your purpose? B Learning a particular assembly language?
 In which case, you get a machine of the exact type you plan to be coding
 for.

 If you are after the more generic learning microprocessors at a low
 level, you need SEVERAL, really. B Its a bit like learning a human
 language, I suspect (while I learned many different processors Way Back
 When, I'm hopelessly monolingual in the human world, but I've heard
 multi-lingual people tell me this) -- Learn one, you know one barely.
 Learn two, the third and later come quickly and easily, and you learn a
 lot more about your first.

 The good news is you don't need to buy new hardware. B For anything you
 are likely to do for the near term, the slowest processor will assemble
 code and run rapidly for you.

 So, get yourself a PII or PIII for x86, a sparc and a sparc64, an amd64
 system (this one you probably have to pay for), and a mac68k (we're
 bringing that port back. B I don't think I can fully answer why).

 Nick.



Re: PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-25 Thread Erik

Op 24-7-2011 23:35, Tomas Vavrys schreef:

This looks also promising... http://www.genesi-usa.com/products
Are there any plans to support this architecture?



Don't think so: http://www.openbsd.org/pegasos.html says it all.

Erik



Gigabit Ethernet Controller compatibility with OpenBSD 4.9

2011-07-25 Thread Stefan N
Hi All,

Have anyone of you ever installed OpenBSD 4.9(i386/amd64 platform) on a machine 
using Gigabit Ethernet Controller  as follows:
1.Realtek 8111C Gigabit Ethernet Controller
2.Intel 82574L Gigabit Ethernet Controller
3.Intel 82567V Gigabit Ethernet Controller
4.Intel 82583V Gigabit Ethernet Controller
5.Intel 82574E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
6.Intel 82576 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
7.Intel 82599ES 10Gigabit Ethernet Controller

Is there any compatibility issue?

The reason I am asking because those gigabit and 10G ethernet controllers 
mentioned above are not listed on:
http://www.openbsd.org/i386.html
http://www.openbsd.org/amd64.html

Regards,
Stefan



Re: PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-25 Thread Peter Kay
The easiest (if not perhaps the cheapest) solution is virtualisation.
Use VMWare ESXi/VMWare Server/Xen or Qemu. Alternatively if you have
more cash, run VMWare Workstation which includes the ability to record
the state of a machine and then play it backwards to track down
especially tricky bugs.

On 25/07/2011, Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
 Well, I haven't chosen word break wisely, instead I meant I don't
 want to reinstall my PC for work (different OS). I rather need new pc
 for my personal use at home.

 Anyway, thank you for your responses. I have got a better picture now
 and as Nick said I will try several architectures, my original
 intention was to learn more about microprocessors at low level.

 2011/7/25 Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net:
 On 07/24/11 07:27, Tomas Vavrys wrote:
 Hello,

 I am looking for a new cheap PC for assembly learning purposes,
 because I don't want to break my current workstation.

 I was thinking about

 http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/nl_NL/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Pr
 oducts/CFL-006

 but I am a little bit worried about current status All on-board
 devices are supported, but the framebuffer is currently limited to the
 640x400x8 video mode set up by the firmware. What is the status in
 -current at the moment?

 This device will be used only for my learning purposes. I would like
 to jump on C and compilers later. Is it better to start with RISC or
 CISC? Should I buy rather x86?

 yes

 I'm assuming you mean assembly language, not putting hardware
 together...

 If so, what's your purpose? B Learning a particular assembly language?
 In which case, you get a machine of the exact type you plan to be coding
 for.

 If you are after the more generic learning microprocessors at a low
 level, you need SEVERAL, really. B Its a bit like learning a human
 language, I suspect (while I learned many different processors Way Back
 When, I'm hopelessly monolingual in the human world, but I've heard
 multi-lingual people tell me this) -- Learn one, you know one barely.
 Learn two, the third and later come quickly and easily, and you learn a
 lot more about your first.

 The good news is you don't need to buy new hardware. B For anything you
 are likely to do for the near term, the slowest processor will assemble
 code and run rapidly for you.

 So, get yourself a PII or PIII for x86, a sparc and a sparc64, an amd64
 system (this one you probably have to pay for), and a mac68k (we're
 bringing that port back. B I don't think I can fully answer why).

 Nick.



Re: 4.7 ospfd FIB/RIB synchronization

2011-07-25 Thread Claer
On Sun, Jul 24 2011 at 27:21, David Gwynne wrote:
 On 24/07/2011, at 8:27 PM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
 
  On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:10 AM, David Gwynne l...@animata.net wrote:
 
  On 20/04/2011, at 11:08 PM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
 
  On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:22 AM, David Gwynne l...@animata.net wrote:
  you might be able to upgrade your passive firewall to 4.9 next to the
 active 4.7 one. it looks like the protocol stayed the same so they should be
 able to talk to each other.
 
  This would seem to be the case.
 
  This (http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20090301211402) is an
  absolutely excellent bit of writing about the improvements to pfsync,
  BTW. Thanks for letting that be shared.
 
  however, it looks like bulk updates were broken in 4.7, which would
 explain your failover problems. you can work around that by going pfctl -S
 /dev/stdout | ssh activefw pfctl -L /dev/stdin as root on the passive fw.
 
  As an initial seeding of state? It seems to me that only some of my
  flows get affected when failing over (not everything is reset and
  traffic can still flow).
 
  yes. the pfctl commands will do a bulk update since the in kernel
 implementation was unreliable back then.
 
  It appears that both firewalls have an approximately congruent set of
  states, but usually a pfctl -ss | wc -l can be off by several
  hundred, to several thousand states at times. My hunch is that state
  creation and counter updates are not updated synchronously, so when
  failing over there are still some updates in-flight, and for flows
  that are moving their sequence numbers at a decent clip I could see
  why they might get reset.
 
  pf has a bit of fuzz when it does its tcp window matching, so packets can
 get ahead of the firewall and be ok.
 
  Do you know if there is a way to see how much this fuzz is or if
  there's an offset?
 
 from memory its 1000 bytes.
 
  If dropped for being out of a window, will (or can) it get logged to pflog?
 
 again, from memory its just dropped.
 
  i wrote defer, so yes...
 
  on my boxes the increase in latency is about .2 to .3ms. if a firewall is
 missing its peer(s) it will go up to about 1/100th of a second.
 
  So does defer wait for a peer to acknowledge a new state just at the
  time of creation, or does it include state updates about sequence
  numbers as well?
 
 defer only delays the first packet.
 
  I suspect I'm hitting a similar issue as you were with long-lived
  flows getting reset at failover.
 
 i think my problem is that i run both firewalls with the carp demotion counter
 set low. when a box is rebooted the carp default is at 0 or 1, which means it
 takes over traffic before it gets all the states. later code in rc.local
 demotes it, but by that time some packets have been eaten by the new box. i
 should fix it, but im lazy.
 
  thats exactly how i have my stuff configured.
 
  Have you ever had trouble when re-numbering an interface? It seems to
  me like ospfd doesn't pick up changes in interface numbering if
  changed out from under it. Most other OSPF daemons I use would pick
  this up as it changes, but as far I as can tell there's no way to tell
  ospfd to reload interface addressing.
 
 interfaces and addresses moving around hurts me too.
 
  I'm often needing to add more and more interfaces and ospf interfaces,
  necessitating failing over so as to make it safe to kill and re-start
  ospfd -- in the process it just seems to nip some flows from flowing.
 
 i do that too. lets annoy claudio together!

In my world, it happends to change interface numbering. The solution we 
found is 
- remove the interface from ospfd.conf,
- reload configuration with ospfctl reload
- destroy the interface (our ospf interfaces are mainly gif ones),
- recreate interface with new IPs
- add conf to ospfd.conf,
- reload configuration with ospfctl reload

This may sound a bit too much, but it works and seems to be reliable for 
the moment and it does not require to kill and restart the daemon :)

Claer



Re: Gigabit Ethernet Controller compatibility with OpenBSD 4.9

2011-07-25 Thread Martin Schröder
2011/7/25 Stefan N stefanbsd...@yahoo.com:
 The reason I am asking because those gigabit and 10G ethernet controllers
 mentioned above are not listed on:
 http://www.openbsd.org/i386.html
 http://www.openbsd.org/amd64.html

The lore is that 1G controller will just work.

10G are special, though.

Best
   Martin



Re: build from source vs. rc.d files

2011-07-25 Thread Owain Ainsworth
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:04:49AM +0200, Ing. Alexander KrE!ek wrote:
 Hello,
 
 thank you all for your binary upgrade responses, but I do not think
 that it is the right method for my conditions.
 
 My machines are about 500km away and my remote access is solved by
 openvpn clients. Physical access to them and booting from external CD
 (or other installXX.iso image) is possible - hopefully only about once a
 year.
 
 Quick look into /usr/src/etc/Makefile reveals, that only way to install
 rc.d scripts are through make distribution-etc-root-var, which is
 called by make release (so here is that binary upgrade), but not by
 make install or make build.
 
 So,
 1) is there any way to do binary upgrade from release files without
 loosing remote connectivity?
 2) upgrade from source will be no more supported for obsd5 ?
 3) if I do that cp/chmod/chgrp for /etc/rc.d/* files by hand, what else
 will be missing in upgraded system?

man 8 sysmerge

That is the solution you are looking for.

http://openbsd.org/faq/upgrade49.html also contains advice that works
for most upgrades (look under ``final steps''.

-0-
-- 
Meskimen's Law:
There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to
do it over.



Re: OPenBSD 4.9 i386, Asus EEE 701, no network

2011-07-25 Thread Owain Ainsworth
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 08:58:26PM +0200, Rudolf Leitgeb wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 I wanted to give OpenBSD a new try and installed it on my
 Asus EEEPC 701. Install went well, but for some reason
 the network interface lii0 reports no carrier.
 
 Since I have no network in the OpenBSD computer, please forgive
 me for not going through the regular sendbug routine but
 posting the bug report directly to this mailing list. 
 
 Just to make sure this is not a hardware problem: I test
 booted Ubuntu 10.04.1 i386 desktop from CD ROM and network
 was fully functional. I did not change anything in the hardware
 between boots, and the network cable remained untouched.
 
 Here is what I did after startup:
 
 - log in as root
 - type ifconfig lii0 192.168.1.55
 
 Result:
 
 - ifconfig lii0 returns:
 lii0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
   lladdr correct MAC address
   priority: 0
   media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
   status: no carrier
   inet6 

Did you up the interface?

ifconfig lii0 up

-0-
-- 
I've seen better heads on half a pint of beer.



Re: build from source vs. rc.d files

2011-07-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011, Owain Ainsworth wrote:

 man 8 sysmerge

pkg_add mc is another good solution.

Lee



Re: OPenBSD 4.9 i386, Asus EEE 701, no network

2011-07-25 Thread Rudolf Leitgeb
Am Montag, den 25.07.2011, 13:00 +0100 schrieb Owain Ainsworth:
 
 Did you up the interface?
 
 ifconfig lii0 up


Thanks a lot, Owain, that was the problem. Network fully
operational now!

Cheers,

Rudi



[PATCH] chat(8) manpage clarification

2011-07-25 Thread Stefan Unterweger
Hi!

I've recently tried debugging a pppd(8) connection and noticed that the
information in the chat(8) manpage was a little imprecise with regard to
how logging is done.

According to chat.c (lines 304 onward, from 4.9-release), it will log
using facility LOCAL2 and level WARNING. If -v is specified, it will
also log up to level INFO. I think it might be useful to include this
information in the manpage as well; see patch below.


Regards,
s//un


Index: chat/chat.8
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/usr.sbin/pppd/chat/chat.8,v
retrieving revision 1.18
diff -u -r1.18 chat.8
--- chat/chat.8 28 Oct 2010 18:34:44 -  1.18
+++ chat/chat.8 25 Jul 2011 15:08:18 -
@@ -58,8 +58,12 @@
 .It Fl S
 Do not use
 .Xr syslog 3 .
-By default, error messages are logged via
-.Xr syslog 3 .
+By default, error messages are logged through
+.Xr syslog 3
+with facility
+.Ar local2
+and level
+.Ar warning .
 The use of
 .Fl S
 will prevent both log messages from
@@ -110,8 +114,10 @@
 .Nm
 program will then log the execution state of the chat script as well as all
 text received from the modem and the output strings sent to the modem.
-The default is to log via
-.Xr syslog 3 ;
+The default is to log through
+.Xr syslog 3
+with level
+.Ar info ;
 the logging method may be altered with the
 .Fl S
 and

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Re: Gigabit Ethernet Controller compatibility with OpenBSD 4.9

2011-07-25 Thread Glen Anderson
On 25/07/2011, Stefan N stefanbsd...@yahoo.com wrote:

The hardware support pages (at least for i386/amd64, I can't comment
on the others) aren't as current or thorough as the man pages. A very
quick check found that a number of the controllers are supported.

 1.Realtek 8111C Gigabit Ethernet Controller

This is mentioned in re(4) albeit not at the beginning

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=rearch=i386sektion=4

 2.Intel 82574L Gigabit Ethernet Controller
 3.Intel 82567V Gigabit Ethernet Controller
 4.Intel 82583V Gigabit Ethernet Controller
 5.Intel 82574E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
 6.Intel 82576 Gigabit Ethernet Controller

Some of these are listed in em(4) as supported, others are not
mentioned. While I'd be surprised if they're not supported I wouldn't
count on it, especially as there are a number of other options which
definitely are supported.

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=emarch=i386sektion=4

 7.Intel 82599ES 10Gigabit Ethernet Controller

Supported according to ix(4)

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ixarch=i386sektion=4



Re: Gigabit Ethernet Controller compatibility with OpenBSD 4.9

2011-07-25 Thread Glen Anderson
On 25/07/2011, Glen Anderson g.s.ander...@gmail.com wrote:
 The hardware support pages (at least for i386/amd64, I can't comment
 on the others) aren't as current or thorough as the man pages.

Of course if you're interested in support in a particular version you
should check the appropriate man pages, not the versions in current
that I linked to.



Re: em0: watchdog timeout with -current

2011-07-25 Thread Sevan / Venture37
On 22 July 2011 18:58, Sevan / Venture37 ventur...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4 July 2011 21:32, Chris Smith obsd_m...@chrissmith.org wrote:
 Breakage happens with revision 1.258 (the MSI one), rev 1.257 and
 earlier work fine. Thanks to all who helped.

 Chris

 I'll try  double check on mine next week as I experienced the same
 issues, I sent a follow up to bugs@
 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugsm=131135453411288w=2


So I reverted to if_em.c to rev1.257  rolled a new kernel, indeed
this stops the watchdog error messages but interface is still useless,
I experience high packet loss  any replies which make it through have
a very high RTT


Sevan


dmesg:
OpenBSD 5.0-beta (GENERIC.MP) #0: Mon Jul 25 17:34:22 BST 2011
r...@t105-1.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 4292673536 (4093MB)
avail mem = 4164284416 (3971MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0ba0 (48 entries)
bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version 1.4.4 date 07/30/2009
bios0: Dell Inc. PowerEdge T105
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP TCPA SLIC SPCR EINJ HEST BERT SSDT ERST SRAT
SSDT MCFG HPET APIC BOOT
acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S5) USB0(S0) P2P0(S5)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-7
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 2500 Hz
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 1212, 2009.49 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 1212, 2009.26 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (P2P0)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 5 (XVR0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 4 (XVR1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 3 (XVR2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 2 (XVR3)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
cpu0: PowerNow! K8 2009 MHz: speeds: 2000 1800 1000 MHz
memory map conflict 0xcff6d000/0x11000
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
NVIDIA nForce4 DDR rev 0xa4 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 not configured
pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 ISA rev 0xf1
nviic0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 NVIDIA nForce4 SMBus rev 0xa2
iic0 at nviic0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x52: 2GB DDR2 SDRAM ECC PC2-5300CL5
spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x53: 2GB DDR2 SDRAM ECC PC2-5300CL5
iic1 at nviic0
ohci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 USB rev 0xa2: apic 2
int 20, version 1.0, legacy support
ehci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 NVIDIA nForce4 USB rev 0xa4: apic 2 int 20
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 NVIDIA EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 SATA rev 0xf3: DMA
pciide0: using apic 2 int 20 for native-PCI interrupt
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD2500SD-01KCC0
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 238475MB, 488397168 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 6
wd1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: WDC WD800JD-75MSA3
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76293MB, 15625 sectors
wd1(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 6
pciide1 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 SATA rev 0xf3: DMA
pciide1: using apic 2 int 20 for native-PCI interrupt
atapiscsi0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: TSSTcorp, CDRWDVD TS-H493B, D200 ATAPI
5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
ppb0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 PCI-PCI rev 0xf2
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 8 function 0 ATI ES1000 rev 0x02
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16
drm0 at radeondrm0
ppb1 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 PCIE rev 0xf3
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
bge0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5722 rev 0x00, BCM5755 C0
(0xa200): apic 2 int 16, address 00:1d:09:22:8a:a6
brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5722 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
ppb2 at pci0 dev 12 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 PCIE rev 0xf3
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
ppb3 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 PCIE rev 0xf3
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
ppb4 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 NVIDIA 

Re: xf86 driver won't compile

2011-07-25 Thread Brynet
Brett wrote:
 I could not find any info on the openbsd site or mailing list 
 on how to do this, except for radeon(4) man page, and this posting (for 
 a different radeon card):

It's not documented because it's not officially supported, it's replacing a 
shipped component with something that's newer..

 1) Do the lines above in the dmesg indicate this driver is already 
 installed on my system? If so, is compiling a new driver likely to 
 result in, for example, less frame dropping in mplayer fullscreen mode?

The kernel support is for DRM/DRI support without KMS, modesetting and device 
initialization isn't done by the kernel.

The driver mentioned in this thread is the userland Xorg driver, the verion 
shipped lacks features and stability on some newer cards.. in your case it will 
add Textured XVideo support.

 2) Is this where I should get the code from?:
 
 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati

You could, however that is the main development repository.. the source there 
does not have any generated configure script.

You'll probably want to get it from here instead:
http://ftp.x.org/pub/individual/driver/xf86-video-ati-6.14.2.tar.gz

 3) Once compiled (using the configure options at the top of this email), 
 is there some other configuration changes I need to make to the system, 
 so this driver will load when I boot computer or startx?

No, the X server should just load the new module.. you don't even have to 
reboot your system.

 4) Is there any sites that I missed where this is already explained?

...

-Bryan.



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Re: [PATCH] chat(8) manpage clarification

2011-07-25 Thread David Coppa
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Unterweger ste...@aleturo.com
wrote:
 Hi!

 I've recently tried debugging a pppd(8) connection and noticed that the
 information in the chat(8) manpage was a little imprecise with regard to
 how logging is done.

 According to chat.c (lines 304 onward, from 4.9-release), it will log
 using facility LOCAL2 and level WARNING. If -v is specified, it will
 also log up to level INFO. I think it might be useful to include this
 information in the manpage as well; see patch below.


 Regards,
s//un


 Index: chat/chat.8
 ===
 RCS file: /cvs/src/usr.sbin/pppd/chat/chat.8,v
 retrieving revision 1.18
 diff -u -r1.18 chat.8
 --- chat/chat.8 28 Oct 2010 18:34:44 -  1.18
 +++ chat/chat.8 25 Jul 2011 15:08:18 -
 @@ -58,8 +58,12 @@
  .It Fl S
  Do not use
  .Xr syslog 3 .
 -By default, error messages are logged via
 -.Xr syslog 3 .
 +By default, error messages are logged through
 +.Xr syslog 3
 +with facility
 +.Ar local2
 +and level
 +.Ar warning .
  The use of
  .Fl S
  will prevent both log messages from
 @@ -110,8 +114,10 @@
  .Nm
  program will then log the execution state of the chat script as well as
all
  text received from the modem and the output strings sent to the modem.
 -The default is to log via
 -.Xr syslog 3 ;
 +The default is to log through
 +.Xr syslog 3
 +with level
 +.Ar info ;
  the logging method may be altered with the
  .Fl S
  and

Having scratched my head around this in the past, I can say I like it.
Ok for me.

ciao,
David



Re: [PATCH] chat(8) manpage clarification

2011-07-25 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 08:03:32PM +0200, David Coppa wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Unterweger ste...@aleturo.com wrote:
  Hi!
 
  I've recently tried debugging a pppd(8) connection and noticed that the
  information in the chat(8) manpage was a little imprecise with regard to
  how logging is done.
 
  According to chat.c (lines 304 onward, from 4.9-release), it will log
  using facility LOCAL2 and level WARNING. If -v is specified, it will
  also log up to level INFO. I think it might be useful to include this
  information in the manpage as well; see patch below.
 
 
  Regards,
  ? ?s//un
 
 
  Index: chat/chat.8
  ===
  RCS file: /cvs/src/usr.sbin/pppd/chat/chat.8,v
  retrieving revision 1.18
  diff -u -r1.18 chat.8
  --- chat/chat.8 28 Oct 2010 18:34:44 - ? ? ?1.18
  +++ chat/chat.8 25 Jul 2011 15:08:18 -
  @@ -58,8 +58,12 @@
  ?.It Fl S
  ?Do not use
  ?.Xr syslog 3 .
  -By default, error messages are logged via
  -.Xr syslog 3 .
  +By default, error messages are logged through
  +.Xr syslog 3
  +with facility
  +.Ar local2
  +and level
  +.Ar warning .
  ?The use of
  ?.Fl S
  ?will prevent both log messages from
  @@ -110,8 +114,10 @@
  ?.Nm
  ?program will then log the execution state of the chat script as well as all
  ?text received from the modem and the output strings sent to the modem.
  -The default is to log via
  -.Xr syslog 3 ;
  +The default is to log through
  +.Xr syslog 3
  +with level
  +.Ar info ;
  ?the logging method may be altered with the
  ?.Fl S
  ?and
 
 Having scratched my head around this in the past, I can say I like it.
 Ok for me.
 
 ciao,
 David

i committed this with two tweaks:

- i used Dq for the facility/level, since that seems more consistent
  with the syslog pages

- i made a small wording tweak, for readability, that was unrelated to
  the diff

jmc



PHP 5.3 on 4.9 (stable)

2011-07-25 Thread Devin Ceartas
I'm getting this error, which I would have thought would have been cleaned
up in the stable ports but doesn't seem to be. Has anyone else seen this or
know if this a simple error of not updating a check file somwhere:

Size does not match for /usr/ports/distfiles/php-5.3.5.tar.gz

-- 
Devin M. Ceartas, owner NacreData L.L.C.



Re: PHP 5.3 on 4.9 (stable)

2011-07-25 Thread Amit Kulkarni
mistakes happen. fix is to do make makesum?
gentle reminder: ports questions should go to ports@, not misc@

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Devin Ceartas nacred...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm getting this error, which I would have thought would have been cleaned
 up in the stable ports but doesn't seem to be. Has anyone else seen this or
 know if this a simple error of not updating a check file somwhere:

 Size does not match for /usr/ports/distfiles/php-5.3.5.tar.gz

 --
 Devin M. Ceartas, owner NacreData L.L.C.



Re: PHP 5.3 on 4.9 (stable)

2011-07-25 Thread Thomas de Grivel
No, IIRC the mismatch is due to php website returning html page, fix is to
add the actual path (something with attic or museum in it) to
php/Makefile.inc, I can provide a patch soon if needed. You should probably
CC maintainer too, and direct such problems at ports@ instead of misc@
On 25 juil. 2011 22:30, Amit Kulkarni amitk...@gmail.com wrote:
 mistakes happen. fix is to do make makesum?
 gentle reminder: ports questions should go to ports@, not misc@

 On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Devin Ceartas nacred...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I'm getting this error, which I would have thought would have been
cleaned
 up in the stable ports but doesn't seem to be. Has anyone else seen this
or
 know if this a simple error of not updating a check file somwhere:

 Size does not match for /usr/ports/distfiles/php-5.3.5.tar.gz

 --
 Devin M. Ceartas, owner NacreData L.L.C.



Re: PHP 5.3 on 4.9 (stable)

2011-07-25 Thread Devin Ceartas
OK, sorry to be off topic  thanks for help; will give it a try. -- devin

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Thomas de Grivel billi...@gmail.comwrote:

 No, IIRC the mismatch is due to php website returning html page, fix is to
 add the actual path (something with attic or museum in it) to
 php/Makefile.inc, I can provide a patch soon if needed. You should probably
 CC maintainer too, and direct such problems at ports@ instead of misc@
 On 25 juil. 2011 22:30, Amit Kulkarni amitk...@gmail.com wrote:
  mistakes happen. fix is to do make makesum?
  gentle reminder: ports questions should go to ports@, not misc@
 
  On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Devin Ceartas nacred...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I'm getting this error, which I would have thought would have been
 cleaned
  up in the stable ports but doesn't seem to be. Has anyone else seen this
 or
  know if this a simple error of not updating a check file somwhere:
 
  Size does not match for /usr/ports/distfiles/php-5.3.5.tar.gz
 
  --
  Devin M. Ceartas, owner NacreData L.L.C.
 




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Re: PHP 5.3 on 4.9 (stable)

2011-07-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2011-07-25, Devin Ceartas nacred...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm getting this error, which I would have thought would have been cleaned
 up in the stable ports but doesn't seem to be. Has anyone else seen this or
 know if this a simple error of not updating a check file somwhere:

 Size does not match for /usr/ports/distfiles/php-5.3.5.tar.gz


php 5.3 is not in 4.9 / -stable.



Re: PHP 5.3 on 4.9 (stable)

2011-07-25 Thread vovka
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 15:36, Devin Ceartas nacred...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm getting this error, which I would have thought would have been cleaned
 up in the stable ports but doesn't seem to be. Has anyone else seen this or
 know if this a simple error of not updating a check file somwhere:

 Size does not match for /usr/ports/distfiles/php-5.3.5.tar.gz


 snip  

Your system is not in sync.
See  FAQ 15.4.1: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#NoFun

I'm getting all kinds of crazy errors. I just can't seem to get this ports
stuff working at all.
It is very likely that you are using a system and ports tree which are not
in sync.



Re: PHP 5.3 on 4.9 (stable)

2011-07-25 Thread Devin Ceartas
How can I be out of sync if I just updated both the system and the ports
collection to stable from CD? I'm not upgrading or doing something else
which would lead to being out of sync.

I find /usr/ports/lang/php/5.3 as well as /usr/ports/lang/php/5.2 in the 4.9
stable ports tree
(cd /usr; cvs checkout -P -rOPENBSD_4_9 ports)

Now I'm confused

devin

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 9:25 PM, vovka net.v...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 15:36, Devin Ceartas nacred...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm getting this error, which I would have thought would have been cleaned
 up in the stable ports but doesn't seem to be. Has anyone else seen this
 or
 know if this a simple error of not updating a check file somwhere:

 Size does not match for /usr/ports/distfiles/php-5.3.5.tar.gz


  snip  

 Your system is not in sync.
 See  FAQ 15.4.1: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#NoFun

 I'm getting all kinds of crazy errors. I just can't seem to get this ports
 stuff working at all.
 It is very likely that you are using a system and ports tree which are not
 in sync.




-- 
Devin M. Ceartas, owner NacreData L.L.C.
nacred...@gmail.com
i...@nacredata.com
(919) 442-8899
AIM: nacredata
skype IM: nacredata



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Re: PHP 5.3 on 4.9 (stable)

2011-07-25 Thread LeviaComm Networks

On 25-Jul-11 19:02, Devin Ceartas wrote:

How can I be out of sync if I just updated both the system and the ports
collection to stable from CD? I'm not upgrading or doing something else
which would lead to being out of sync.

I find /usr/ports/lang/php/5.3 as well as /usr/ports/lang/php/5.2 in the 4.9
stable ports tree
(cd /usr; cvs checkout -P -rOPENBSD_4_9 ports)

Now I'm confused

devin


The CD is the -release branch, not stable.  Also what is the exact path 
you are using to grab the bits to ports?  Depending on where you are 
getting them, the bits may be for -current, which is months ahead of 
-release




Re: PHP 5.3 on 4.9 (stable)

2011-07-25 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 08:10:23PM -0700, LeviaComm Networks wrote:

 On 25-Jul-11 19:02, Devin Ceartas wrote:
 How can I be out of sync if I just updated both the system and the ports
 collection to stable from CD? I'm not upgrading or doing something else
 which would lead to being out of sync.
 
 I find /usr/ports/lang/php/5.3 as well as /usr/ports/lang/php/5.2 in the 4.9
 stable ports tree
 (cd /usr; cvs checkout -P -rOPENBSD_4_9 ports)
 
 Now I'm confused
 
 devin
 
 The CD is the -release branch, not stable.  Also what is the exact
 path you are using to grab the bits to ports?  Depending on where
 you are getting them, the bits may be for -current, which is months
 ahead of -release

Yes, the 5.3 dir is in the tree of 4.9, but it is not linked to the
build.  Only in 5.0 it will be. 

-Otto