Re: altq on a variable bandwidth interface
You cannot do any kind of bandwidth shaping, priorization or fair queueing on any link but the bottleneck. that is plain bullshit. I think you are talking about two different things here: Henning Brauer is explaining how queuing and prioritization work in OpenBSD, while the others have in mind those network switches and routers which perform packet switching in hardware. In such devices, input frame or packet is forwarded without any queuing if the output port is not congested. Otherwise, the queues would quickly grow and overrun (and the latency would be higher). This is the only possible thing to do when there are tens or hundreds of interfaces, especially high speed ones. So, it is probably not a good idea to automatically apply knowledge about network hardware to packet switching in general-purpose operating systems.
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Hylafax 6.0.5p0
Dear All, I am now try to setup the hylafax 6.0.5 for my machine running openbsd-5.0 stable. I go through all the processes faxsetup, faxaddmodem with no luck. Can anyone show me some pointer of examples that works. Thanks. Clarence
Re: correct netmask on carp interfaces
On 24/11/11 21:40, Henning Brauer wrote: * Kapetanakis Giannisbil...@edu.physics.uoc.gr [2011-11-23 14:13]: Also Henning proposed the exact opposite in that old thread (ie /32 on the carp interface) which seems more logical to me, but then I get those errors (arp_rtrequest: bad gateway value) ignore them. at one point we'll have to clean that up. Thanx Henning. I'll change the carp dev to /32 and ignore the arp warnings. Giannis
Re: Kernel without INET6 error on pipex.c
Yes, I tried it and it worked. Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:09:02 +0200 Subject: Re: Kernel without INET6 error on pipex.c From: coonar...@gmail.com To: misc@openbsd.org On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2011-11-24, Paul Irofti p...@irofti.net wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:09:31AM +, Julien Crapovich wrote: Hello. Absolutely, but compiling without INET6 is not supposed to generate error. I've just disabled INET6 on GENERIC file, not other hack. Did you try after disabling INET6 to also disable PIPEX and pseudo-device pppx -- ### Coonardoo - The Well In The Shadow ###
Re: Kernel without INET6 error on pipex.c
Thank you ! Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 04:08:38 +0100 From: ktulu+o...@wxcvbn.org To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel without INET6 error on pipex.c If you haven't subscribed to tech@ yet: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-techm=132218680527474w=2
Asus EEEPC 900
I was wondering if anyone out there is using the eee pc 900 to run OpenBSD. I used an early 700 for many years as a firewall without problems, but that one died on me. Now when I try and replace it with my 900, with the same version OpenBSD (4.8), the installation does not find any network adapters at all. I also tried a usb nic which worked flawlessly on the 700, but with no success on the 900. When I attach the usb nic, it says something along the lines of usb not initialized. If anyone is using a successful combination of eee pc 900 and OpenBSD, please let me know. Could this be a BIOS settings issue? I can boot from usb cdrom without issues. -- Henrik Engmark Systems Engineer TechTrade International AB Office: 08-754 09 90 P.O. Box 6044 SE-192 06 Sollentuna, Sweden
Re: Dennis Ritchie
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 03:54:19AM +0100, Thomas de Grivel wrote: On 10/14/11 03:22, Tito Mari Francis Escaqo wrote: Dennis Ritchie should be the patron saint of software development and engineering. :) No matter how disgusting the notion of patron is to me, I feel Ada Lovelace would have to be considered too. She's not as freshly dead but is Den's father too. This is to put an end to the Jobs / Ritchie mise en abime. Generally spelled mise en abyme in that expression. Isn't language quirky ?
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How to use virt-install and http to install openbsd VM in KVM?
Hi Guys, I have a RHEL6 KVM and would like to install an OpenBSD VM using http. I downloaded install50.iso onto my http server and could see it using my browser. Then I followed the instructions like this on the KVM: virt-install --hvm --connect qemu:///system --network=bridge:br0 --location=http://10.10.36.134/vm-openbsd/install50.iso --name=vm4-openbsd --ram=2048 --vcpus=2 --os-type=unix --file=/var/lib/libvirt/images/vm4-openbsd.img --file-size=20 where 10.10.36.134 is my http server and vm-openbsd is where I put my install50.iso. This gave me an error: ERRORError creating cdrom disk: Could not find an installable distribution at 'http://10.10.36.134/vm-openbsd/install50.iso' The location must be the root directory of an install tree. So I though I would loop mount my iso image on the http server but still doesn't work with the same error. This works If I copy the iso onto my kvm machine under /tmp and install like this: virt-install --hvm --connect qemu:///system -c /tmp/install50.iso --name=vm4-openbsd --ram=2048 --vcpus=2 --os-type=unix --file=/var/lib/libvirt/images/vm4-openbsd.img --file-size=20 So my question is if anyone knows exactly how to do this using http in virt-install. Many thanks! - David
Re: Hylafax 6.0.5p0
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:27 AM, man Chan openbsd...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Dear All, I am now try to setup the hylafax 6.0.5 for my machine running openbsd-5.0 stable. I go through all the processes faxsetup, faxaddmodem with no luck. Can anyone show me some pointer of examples that works. Thanks. Clarence I've not needed it under openBSD, but *wrote* the SunOS port for that, many years back, and some of the early Red Hat compatible RPM's. What does faxstat say? And what did faxaddmomdem say? And what kind of modem are you using? And you might benefit from poking your nose in the HylaFAX mailing lists, especially the ones for the Sourceforge published HylaFAX+ software. Many of the cheaper modems today are Winmodems, and rely extensively on commercially provided Windows drivers to do their processing with main CPU instead of on the serial port connected modem itself. You'll be able to use them on a free or open operating system only if someone has ported drivers, so that's why I'm asking what modem you're using. I've personally relied on external USR modems for some years, and these days rely on Efax, a commercial service that actually uses HylaFAX as its back end.
Re: Asus EEEPC 900
On 2011-11-25, Henrik Engmark h...@tti.se wrote: I was wondering if anyone out there is using the eee pc 900 to run OpenBSD. I used an early 700 for many years as a firewall without problems, but that one died on me. Now when I try and replace it with my 900, with the same version OpenBSD (4.8), the installation does not find any network adapters at all. I also tried a usb nic which worked flawlessly on the 700, but with no success on the 900. When I attach the usb nic, it says something along the lines of usb not initialized. If anyone is using a successful combination of eee pc 900 and OpenBSD, please let me know. Could this be a BIOS settings issue? I can boot from usb cdrom without issues. Don't know about 900 but 5.0 and -current work fine on an Eee 901.
Re: Asus EEEPC 900
Am 25.11.11 17:15, schrieb Stuart Henderson: On 2011-11-25, Henrik Engmarkh...@tti.se wrote: I was wondering if anyone out there is using the eee pc 900 to run OpenBSD. I used an early 700 for many years as a firewall without problems, but that one died on me. Now when I try and replace it with my 900, with the same version OpenBSD (4.8), the installation does not find any network adapters at all. I also tried a usb nic which worked flawlessly on the 700, but with no success on the 900. When I attach the usb nic, it says something along the lines of usb not initialized. If anyone is using a successful combination of eee pc 900 and OpenBSD, please let me know. Could this be a BIOS settings issue? I can boot from usb cdrom without issues. Don't know about 900 but 5.0 and -current work fine on an Eee 901. Installed 5.0 on eee 900 last week. Onboard network adapter just worked. (can provide dmesg week)
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Re: Dennis Ritchie
2011/11/25 Marc Espie es...@nerim.net On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 03:54:19AM +0100, Thomas de Grivel wrote: On 10/14/11 03:22, Tito Mari Francis Escaqo wrote: Dennis Ritchie should be the patron saint of software development and engineering. :) No matter how disgusting the notion of patron is to me, I feel Ada Lovelace would have to be considered too. She's not as freshly dead but is Den's father too. This is to put an end to the Jobs / Ritchie mise en abime. Generally spelled mise en abyme in that expression. Isn't language quirky ? I guess we make the language as much as the inverse. Casual trolling is such a nice way to learn these things =) -- Thomas de Grivel
Ksh command substitution
Hello, I have some very basic questions about the above topic. First, I read from various sources that backticks (`command`) are basically deprecated, with $(command) the preferred option (I may be a little loose with this definition). man ksh even alludes to this: snip ``' introduces an old-style command substitution snip Is there ANY differnece between the behavior of these, or is it just that the newer style is preferred for readability? Second, again in man ksh, I read: Note that $( foo) has the same effect as $(cat foo), but it is carried out more efficiently because no process is started. When googling for similar examples, I always see the 'cat foo' example used. So is this form simply a shorthand for 'cat somefile', and not any other command (for example an awk or sed command)? I view myself as a guest caveman among the rest of you who probably know this stuff as second nature, and am always grateful for your replies (even when I get yelled at). Thanks! -Scott
Re: Ksh command substitution
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Scott amorphous.yet@gmail.com wrote: First, I read from various sources that backticks (`command`) are basically deprecated, with $(command) the preferred option (I may be a little loose with this definition). man ksh even alludes to this: snip ``' introduces an old-style command substitution snip Is there ANY differnece between the behavior of these, or is it just that the newer style is preferred for readability? A later paragraph in the Substitution section describes differences in parsing. The classical example is then seen here: echo '\$x' echo `echo '\$x'` echo $(echo '\$x') The first and third both output \$x but the second outputs $x I.e., you can whip up a command that creates the output you desire, and then wrap it in $(...) without having to go through it adding backslashes like you do with backquotes. Second, again in man ksh, I read: Note that $( foo) has the same effect as $(cat foo), but it is carried out more efficiently because no process is started. When googling for similar examples, I always see the 'cat foo' example used. So is this form simply a shorthand for 'cat somefile', and not any other command (for example an awk or sed command)? Yes. Philip Guenther
Re: altq on a variable bandwidth interface
i dunno what is so hard to understand about packet reordering based on priority. prio queueing is best effort, no guarantees. with more effort (towards low delay) for higher priorized traffic. no more, no less. Henning: my original question was that the altq directive appears to require me to type in a bandwidth number in order to even function. you seem to be saying that I can still set up a prio queue even if I don't know the bandwidth that my optical terminal is providing. given this, what do I type into my pf.conf to make this happen?
Re: cd boot panic on 5.0 but not 4.9 or earlier
how safe are those two images? would it be ok to run on a production system or should I wait for the official 5.0 stable branch? different version of the same question: if I'm lazy, can I cheat by booting off a new install50 or cd50 snapshot, but actually install the packages from install50 release? or will I just get the same panic when I try to boot afterwards? basically, how likely is it that the problem I have is specific to the bsd.rd on the release isos, vs a problem with the release kernel in general.
