Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2
On 2011-12-07, Stefan Johnson tigerphoenixdra...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. Today I replaced OpenSuSE with OpenBSD 5.0 on my HP ML 570 G2 server. The system includes to memory boards for RAM. One board has 8 gigs, and the other has 4. The power on self test sees 12 and initializes 12, but after the server boots, OpenBSD appears to only see 4. I believe this relates to 32 vs 64 bit, but I'm not positive. Yes, exactly. OpenBSD supports 4GB RAM only on 64-bit architectures. The FAQ mentions a trick for utilizing more RAM when all of the RAM isn't seen using boot.conf at this link: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#InstProb That is not relevant to your situation.
Re: network bandwith with em(4)
Le Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:09:32 +0100, Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org a icrit : (4.8/amd64) I'm using two ethernet cards Intel 1000/PRO quad ports (gigabit) on a firewall (one fiber and one copper). The problem is that we don't get more than ~320 Mbits/s of bandwith beetween the internal networks and internet (gigabit). As far I can see, on load there is a number of Ierr on the interface connected to Internet (between 1% to 5%). -- dmesg (on 4.8): em0 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000 QP (82571EB) rev 0x06: apic 1 int 13 (irq 14), address 00:15:17:ed:98:9d em4 at pci9 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000 QP (82575GB) rev 0x02: apic 1 int 23 (irq 11), address 00:1b:21:38:e0:80 Hello, This issue (IERR on em) looks to be fixed on 5.0. With 4.8 and 4.9 there were IERR errors with traffic 150 Mbs. With 5.0 there are only few IERR from time to time, even on high load ( 400 Mbits/s, 40K packets/s in, 30K packets/s out) I guess that the fixes on em(4) helps. May be the use of MSI interrupts too because I see a significant improvement on CPU interrupt load (around 60% in load to 50% with 5.0). (the measures are averaged on 5 minutes) That's cool! There are still some PF congestions from time to time but I have to investigate. It happens even when the box is idle but may be there are some burst of traffic. The box has 6 interfaces and I don't believe it can handle 6 Gbits at once. Too finish this too long thread, since february we (an university) are very happy with the reliability of our two PF firewalls, that just works. Thanks a lot, regards.
where to send patches for port?
Hello, everybody. $Subject, namelly libetpan. Maintainer doesn't seem to be responsive. this patch corrects the work with memory. -- With best regards, Gregory Edigarov [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-patch]
Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2
Yes, exactly. OpenBSD supports 4GB RAM only on 64-bit architectures. Isn't that a limitation of Intel x32 rather than an OpenBSD limitation?
Re: where to send patches for port?
to ports@ On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:23:53 +0200, Gregory Edigarov wrote: Hello, everybody. $Subject, namelly libetpan. Maintainer doesn't seem to be responsive. this patch corrects the work with memory. -- Sending from my computer
Re: where to send patches for port?
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Gregory Edigarov g...@bestnet.kharkov.ua wrote: Hello, everybody. $Subject, namelly libetpan. Maintainer doesn't seem to be responsive. this patch corrects the work with memory. Send it *inline* to po...@openbsd.org
Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2
On Dec 7, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: Yes, exactly. OpenBSD supports 4GB RAM only on 64-bit architectures. Isn't that a limitation of Intel x32 rather than an OpenBSD limitation? Yes and no; higher-end Intel 32-bit parts from the Pentium Pro upward supported Physical Address Extension, which (IIRC) gave 36 bits of physical address space (similar to how you could have 18 or 22 bits of address space on a 16-bit PDP-11 through the magic of memory mapping). Your virtual addresses are limited to 32 bits still, so any given process could only use 4 GB, but the total amount of RAM in the system could be larger. - Dave
Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 04:05:07PM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: Yes, exactly. OpenBSD supports 4GB RAM only on 64-bit architectures. Isn't that a limitation of Intel x32 rather than an OpenBSD limitation? Modern x86 processors support PAE (Physical Address Extension) in which a 32-bit processor can address more than 32-bit physical addresses. But not without the OS supporting it. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:45:56 -0200 Daniel Bolgheroni wrote: Modern x86 processors support PAE (Physical Address Extension) in which a 32-bit processor can address more than 32-bit physical addresses. But not without the OS supporting it. Wouldn't that make ROP attacks more difficult too? Though I guess the effort would be a waste of time when you can move to 64bit anyway.
Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 04:25:15PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:45:56 -0200 Daniel Bolgheroni wrote: Modern x86 processors support PAE (Physical Address Extension) in which a 32-bit processor can address more than 32-bit physical addresses. But not without the OS supporting it. Wouldn't that make ROP attacks more difficult too? Though I guess the effort would be a waste of time when you can move to 64bit anyway. I don't think so. The PAE-aware kernel will manage/map this extra physical addresses, but as noted above, processes still only see 4 GB. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
using ssh to forward the install console
hello group. I have an interesting (and fairly technical) question. the question is: how can I forward the install screen via ssh to another machine on my network? I ask this because I didn't see any specific instructions that applied. my issue right now is that I need a sighted assistant to read me the screen and help with installing the base system (and setting up ssh). I would like to run the install like from a serial port output (like the old spark pizza boxes) but none of my current machines have a serial port to do this on. comments? suggestions? -eric
Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2
I want to thank everyone that replied. I have gone to google for information about openbsd, i386, pae, and similar. I see that there was a talk done back in 2006 or so about PAE on i386. I see some old old old threads about it working, not working, working again, not working again, breaking amd64 and so on. I see several mentions of just turn on the option but the option they mention isn't listed in man 4 options (I686_PAE) and I see nothing about PAE when I do a config -e -o /bsd.pae /bsd.mp to try to enable this with config. I do see the file pmapae.c in the src folder, but I have no idea how to utilize it since I've not build a custom kernel since I first picked up OpenBSD (2.9) many years ago. I've done the steps to use config to create the Makefile and so on using GENERIC.MP as the base. I know I should copy that and add an option and do this again, but since man 4 options doesn't show the appropriate option, can someone who has actually gotten this to work help me out with how to proceed from here? Sorry, if this can't be done. Some people were saying it can't, and some were saying it can, but you need to use i386 PAE to do it. Others said use amd64 but these are 32bit processors, so I didn't think amd64 would work. This makes me think that the correct answer is i386 PAE but I'm having trouble finding how to do that. Thanks again for all that replied, and I do understand that if this involves building a custom kernel to turn on the option I forfeit support under that kernel :) Stefan Johnson
Re: using ssh to forward the install console
the question is: how can I forward the install screen via ssh to another machine on my network? I ask this because I didn't see any specific instructions that applied. my issue right now is that I need a sighted assistant to read me the screen and help with installing the base system (and setting up ssh). The answer: you can't. Think about it. The installer image is something static. Everyone installing the release gets the same image. How would you give it the ssh public key of the machine it would redirect to? How would you give it the network configuration? What if there are multiple machines? Which protocol version, login and password (or key) to use? I would like to run the install like from a serial port output (like the old spark pizza boxes) but none of my current machines have a serial port to do this on. Yes, and this is the sad situation of so-called enterprise computing nowadays.
Re: using ssh to forward the install console
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 08:31:42PM +, Miod Vallat wrote: The answer: you can't. That was what I thought, too. But now I wonder about using yaifo from a desktop running a vnc server. It might work. -- http://code.phxbsd.com/
Re: Odd Network Lockups
I think you're right Stuart, raising kern.maxclusters is only buying me time. The only sysctl values I've modified are: net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 ddb.panic=0 kern.maxclusters=8192 netstat -m shows increasing values over time, here's the output from this morning: 3510 mbufs in use: 3479 mbufs allocated to data 24 mbufs allocated to packet headers 7 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 3477/3522/8192 mbuf 2048 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 4096 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 8192 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 9216 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 12288 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 16384 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 65536 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 8204 Kbytes allocated to network (95% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines ...and here it is from this evening: 3718 mbufs in use: 3687 mbufs allocated to data 24 mbufs allocated to packet headers 7 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 3685/3734/8192 mbuf 2048 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 4096 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 8192 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 9216 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 12288 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 16384 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 0/8/8192 mbuf 65536 byte clusters in use (current/peak/max) 8628 Kbytes allocated to network (96% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines Here's the output from systat mbuf: 1 usersLoad 0.65 0.79 0.76 Wed Dec 7 18:15:12 2011 IFACE LIVELOCKS SIZE ALIVE LWM HWM CWM System0 256 3716 242 2k 36861867 lo0 em02k21 4 25621 em12k20 4 25620 em22k14 4 25614 enc0 vether0 tun0 bridge0 pflog0 I did update the kernel at the same time as changing the bios settings, so that led me down the wrong path I think. Digging through /var/log/messages* it looks as though things changed when I upgraded from the October 6th snapshot to the November 15th snapshot. When I was running this (and previous snapshots): OpenBSD 5.0-current (GENERIC.MP) #96: Thu Oct 6 16:12:43 MDT 2011 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP ...I had a bunch of these errors (but no network lockups): pf: state key linking mismatch! dir=OUT, if=em1, stored af=2, a0: 76.126.243.211:25619, a1: 192.168.10.2:49200, proto=17, found af=2, a0: 176.15.107.37:45022, a1: 239.190.175.222:61374, proto=17 After updating to this (and another update since): OpenBSD 5.0-current (GENERIC.MP) #133: Tue Nov 15 22:08:20 MST 2011 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP ...I now have these warnings (and the network lockups): WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters -Nick On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: Have you adjusted any other sysctl values? What does netstat -m say? Run it once, then again after 30 mins or so. What does systat mbuf say? Did you update the kernel at the same time as changing bios settings? If so, what did you run before? (check /var/log/messages*) I doubt there's a legitimate reason to increase kern.maxclusters to 8192 on this system, best I think you can hope for with that is to make it run for a little longer before crashing. On 2011-12-06, Nick Templeton n...@nicktempleton.com wrote: You're right that I had an outdated BIOS, which I've now updated, but upon further review I don't think that is/was the culprit. I've since had the issue re-surface and this time I noticed many lines like this in the dmesg (not sure how I missed it before): WARNING: mclpools limit reached; increase kern.maxclusters So I've upped kern.maxclusters to 8192, however, I'm not sure if I really should need to. This machine is a firewall/router for my home network running a few services (sshd, named, httpd, tomcat) for about 5 users. There's also a machine that is running Transmission BitTorrent client behind the firewall, maybe that could be the culprit? -Nick On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Erling Westenvik erling.westen...@gmail.com wrote: You should try upgrading BIOS. As far as I can tell, it would be version 2.4 as of 8/7/2007. http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats? DriverId=HY9F0FileId=2731098639 (I was recently given an Dell Optiplex 755, also intel Core 2 Duo, and I installed OpenBSD 5.0 on it. However, I got all kinds of errors - mainly about memory
Re: using ssh to forward the install console
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: hello group. I have an interesting (and fairly technical) question. the question is: how can I forward the install screen via ssh to another machine on my network? I ask this because I didn't see any specific instructions that applied. my issue right now is that I need a sighted assistant to read me the screen and help with installing the base system (and setting up ssh). I would like to run the install like from a serial port output (like the old spark pizza boxes) but none of my current machines have a serial port to do this on. comments? suggestions? -eric Any possibility of using USB serial adapters on these systems? You may need to blind-type to the boot loader in order to get it up on the serial redirection with an attached keyboard, but as I recall that isn't a big issue for Eric. ;) Then you would just need a crossover to the other DTE port on a host running cu and ssh to handle the install. We would do a similar thing with our v210's except they had built-in serial.
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Re: using ssh to forward the install console
I have one, and no, it doesn't work. Not until after the system is installed. The only option I think might hold promise (but it's gonna cost) is one of those remote management cards. Sun had a LOM card that you could SSH to, and then access a console from it... I think you can get one of those PC Weasel cards, but there really expensive. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 19:16, Russell Garrison russell.garri...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: hello group. I have an interesting (and fairly technical) question. the question is: how can I forward the install screen via ssh to another machine on my network? I ask this because I didn't see any specific instructions that applied. my issue right now is that I need a sighted assistant to read me the screen and help with B installing the base system (and setting up ssh). I would like to run the install like from a serial port output (like the old spark pizza boxes) but none of my current machines have a serial port to do this on. comments? suggestions? -eric Any possibility of using USB serial adapters on these systems? You may need to blind-type to the boot loader in order to get it up on the serial redirection with an attached keyboard, but as I recall that isn't a big issue for Eric. ;) Then you would just need a crossover to the other DTE port on a host running cu and ssh to handle the install. We would do a similar thing with our v210's except they had built-in serial.
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Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2
it's not a case of setting options or a custom kernel, it involves writing code (rather delicate kernel code). on this particular hardware, you are basically either stuck with 4GB or running another OS. On 2011-12-07, Stefan Johnson tigerphoenixdra...@gmail.com wrote: I want to thank everyone that replied. I have gone to google for information about openbsd, i386, pae, and similar. I see that there was a talk done back in 2006 or so about PAE on i386. I see some old old old threads about it working, not working, working again, not working again, breaking amd64 and so on. I see several mentions of just turn on the option but the option they mention isn't listed in man 4 options (I686_PAE) and I see nothing about PAE when I do a config -e -o /bsd.pae /bsd.mp to try to enable this with config. I do see the file pmapae.c in the src folder, but I have no idea how to utilize it since I've not build a custom kernel since I first picked up OpenBSD (2.9) many years ago. I've done the steps to use config to create the Makefile and so on using GENERIC.MP as the base. I know I should copy that and add an option and do this again, but since man 4 options doesn't show the appropriate option, can someone who has actually gotten this to work help me out with how to proceed from here? Sorry, if this can't be done. Some people were saying it can't, and some were saying it can, but you need to use i386 PAE to do it. Others said use amd64 but these are 32bit processors, so I didn't think amd64 would work. This makes me think that the correct answer is i386 PAE but I'm having trouble finding how to do that. Thanks again for all that replied, and I do understand that if this involves building a custom kernel to turn on the option I forfeit support under that kernel :) Stefan Johnson
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Re: using ssh to forward the install console
no kidding about the expensive part. a stand alone unit (designed for a pci-e or pci-x slot) can be generally more expensive than purchasing a server grade motherboard with an associated daughter board management device. Tyan microcomputer makes a reasonably priced MB with a separate daughter board (sold separately). my only issue is going to be getting the funds to do this. -eric On Dec 7, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Bryan wrote: I have one, and no, it doesn't work. Not until after the system is installed. The only option I think might hold promise (but it's gonna cost) is one of those remote management cards. Sun had a LOM card that you could SSH to, and then access a console from it... I think you can get one of those PC Weasel cards, but there really expensive. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 19:16, Russell Garrison russell.garri...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: hello group. I have an interesting (and fairly technical) question. the question is: how can I forward the install screen via ssh to another machine on my network? I ask this because I didn't see any specific instructions that applied. my issue right now is that I need a sighted assistant to read me the screen and help with B installing the base system (and setting up ssh). I would like to run the install like from a serial port output (like the old spark pizza boxes) but none of my current machines have a serial port to do this on. comments? suggestions? -eric Any possibility of using USB serial adapters on these systems? You may need to blind-type to the boot loader in order to get it up on the serial redirection with an attached keyboard, but as I recall that isn't a big issue for Eric. ;) Then you would just need a crossover to the other DTE port on a host running cu and ssh to handle the install. We would do a similar thing with our v210's except they had built-in serial.
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Re: Narcicism?
Just give up on this thread. It's a waste of my time and pointless discussions like this just mean people who do have something to contribute or who have a real question get drowned in noise like this thread. Each time I attempt to catch up on misc, it's threads like these that make me regret that attempt. Why didn't this thread die already? -- Ariane On Dec 4, 2011, at 9:03, John Tate j...@johntate.org wrote: I should lie and make this statement smaller? There is nothing even that big about it. I don't know why I should leave anything other than the facts. It's your choice to guess my intentions for doing so. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Rares Aioanei bsdlis...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/01/2011 05:25 PM, John Tate wrote: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Scott McEachernsc...@blackstaff.ca wrote: I'm 24 years old. I was a Linux hacker since I was 13. I am a bit of a guru and do my own Kerberos and such on an all BSD/Linux network. OpenBSD and Debian Linux. I love OpenBSD, I'm a bit weird because I use bash. I can put up with being made fun of. At 13 I didn't just start learning Linux I started learning C++ as well. I failed to apprehend it properly at that age, but at an older age I relearned it well. I am the guru sort of guy, I know a hell of a lot but I'm still connecting it and in that sense still learning. You forgot to list modesty there as well, John. -- Rares Aioanei -- www.johntate.org
Re: Narcicism?
2011/12/8 Ariane van der Steldt ari...@stack.nl: Just give up on this thread. It's a waste of my time and pointless discussions like this just mean people who do have something to contribute or who have a real question get drowned in noise like this thread. Each time I attempt to catch up on misc, it's threads like these that make me regret that attempt. Why didn't this thread die already? -- Ariane On Dec 4, 2011, at 9:03, John Tate j...@johntate.org wrote: Because people kept replying to it rather than just letting it die. -- g):g.1e/h2/g )cf71h07e/e.9f04c sunnz.org
Re: USB to ethernet adapter
On Thu, December 8, 2011 03:11, Wesley M. wrote: Hi, I'm going to build a small firewall with proxy cache for web. Using an Apple Mac mini. For the second ethernet, i will use : - Trendnet TU2-ETG OR Apple MC704ZM. What is better ? using trendnet or Apple Adapter ? And is it enough stable to use a USB Adapter ? Thank you very much for your answers. Wesley. I can't say about Macs and these usb lan you're using. But I've used for a couple of years OpenBSD and some usb lan nic without problems. I used an old 10Mbps one I can't remember the name/module, and more recently Linksys 200M (or is it 100M), that can handle up to 100Mbps. It was used for altq+hfsc, and it did the job as was expected. matheus -- We will call you cygnus, The God of balance you shall be A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
Re: USB to ethernet adapter
The Trentnet, or another from this list: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=axesektion=4 -- James Shupe
