Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread John Tate
Is it info2www being used?

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Richard Toohey 
richardtoo...@paradise.net.nz wrote:

 On 10/12/2011, at 3:02 PM, John Tate wrote:

  I am wondering what software if any generates the OpenBSD and similar
  websites. It appears to be a static page generated by some software, that
  software doesn't seem to be mentioned. What is it? Or is it just hand
 made?
 

 You might find some answers here

 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/www/

  John Tate
 
  --
  www.johntate.org
 




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Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread Eric Furman
The only reason I haven't added you to my kill file is your
questions and responses are sooo idiotically moronic that
you are hilarious! You are so fucking stupid you are falling
down hilarious. What makes it even more funny is how smart
you think you are! LMFAO!
God, if I had a nickle for every fucking retard like you
I've met that thought that they were a genius
Oh yea, I sent this to the list also to humiliate you.
Please keep posting though, you really crack me up.

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011, at 06:15 PM, John Tate wrote:
 No, I'm an idiot. Not kidding at all. Is that a yes for Or is it just
 hand
 made?
 
 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Theo de Raadt
 dera...@cvs.openbsd.orgwrote:
 
   I am wondering what software if any generates the OpenBSD and similar
   websites. It appears to be a static page generated by some software, that
   software doesn't seem to be mentioned. What is it? Or is it just hand
  made?
 
  Are you kidding?
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 www.johntate.org



syslogd memory buffers problem

2011-12-10 Thread Lars Hansson
I run a number of 4.9 i386 boxes that functions as routers and are
logging to memory buffers.
Today I noticed that if I sighup the syslogd process the memory
buffers are no longer being logged to.
Below is the output from syslogd -d and I'm guessing the problem has
something to do with the Membuf no match thing.

$ sudo syslogd -d
off  running
init
[priv]: msg PRIV_CONFIG_MODIFIED received
[priv]: msg PRIV_OPEN_CONFIG received
cfline(*.notice;auth,authpriv,cron,ftp,kern,lpr,mail,user.none
:256:messages, f, *)
cfline(kern.debug;syslog,user.info
:256:messages2, f, *)
cfline(auth.info
:256:authlog, f, *)
cfline(authpriv.debug
:256:secure, f, *)
cfline(cron.info
:256:cron, f, *)
cfline(daemon.info
:256:daemon, f, *)
cfline(ftp.info
:256:xferlog, f, *)
cfline(lpr.debug
:256:lpd-errs, f, *)
cfline(mail.info
:256:mail, f, *)
cfline(*.emerg *, f, *)
cfline(*.*
@loghost, f, *)
[priv]: msg PRIV_GETHOSTSERV received
Initialize membuf messages at 0x7f859000
Membuf no match
Initialize membuf messages2 at 0x7f859800
Membuf no match
Initialize membuf authlog at 0x816fb000
Membuf no match
Initialize membuf secure at 0x816fb800
Membuf no match
Initialize membuf cron at 0x816fa800
Membuf no match
Initialize membuf daemon at 0x816fa000
Membuf no match
Initialize membuf xferlog at 0x7f858000
Membuf no match
Initialize membuf lpd at 0x7f858800
Membuf no match
Initialize membuf mail at 0x7f857000
Membuf no match
X X X 5 X 5 X 5 5 X X X 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 X MEMBUF: messages
7 6 X X X 6 X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MEMBUF: messages2
X X X X 6 X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MEMBUF: authlog
X X X X X X X X X X 7 X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MEMBUF: secure
X X X X X X X X X 6 X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MEMBUF: cron
X X X 6 X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MEMBUF: daemon
X X X X X X X X X X X 6 X X X X X X X X X X X X X MEMBUF: xferlog
X X X X X X 7 X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MEMBUF: lpd
X X 6 X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MEMBUF: mail
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 X WALL:
8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 X FORW: loghost
[priv]: msg PRIV_DONE_CONFIG_PARSE received
logmsg: pri 056, flags 0x4, from mizar, msg syslogd: start
Logging to MEMBUF
Logging to FORW loghost
syslogd: started
^Csyslogd: exiting on signal 2
syslogd: exiting on signal 2
logmsg: pri 053, flags 0x4, from mizar, msg syslogd: exiting on signal 2
Logging to MEMBUF
Logging to MEMBUF
Logging to FORW loghost
[unpriv] syslogd child about to exit

dmesg:
OpenBSD 4.9 (GENERIC.MP) #794: Wed Mar  2 07:19:02 MST 2011
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
686-class) 2.94 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
real mem  = 2111008768 (2013MB)
avail mem = 2066317312 (1970MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/24/10, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @
0xfc330 (62 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version V1.10 date 08/24/2010
bios0: MSI MS-7592
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB HPET GSCI SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices P0P2(S4) P0P3(S4) P0P1(S4) PS2K(S1) PS2M(S1)
USB0(S4) USB1(S4) USB2(S4) USB3(S4) EUSB(S4) MC97(S4) P0P4(S4)
P0P5(S4) P0P6(S4) P0P7(S4) P0P8(S4) P0P9(S4) SLPB(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 266MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
686-class) 2.94 GHz
cpu1: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-255
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P1)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P4)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 2 (P0P5)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P6)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P7)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P8)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P9)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibtn1 at acpi0: PWRB
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc600! 0xcc800/0x1000
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2934 MHz: speeds: 2936, 2670, 2403, 2136,
1870, 1603 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel G41 Host rev 0x03
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel G41 Video rev 0x03
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at 

Re: syslogd memory buffers problem

2011-12-10 Thread Lars Hansson
Uhm...ok, never mind. I'm an idiot. it does work. Sorry for that unneeded noise.

Cheers,
Lars



Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread John Tate
Where did I state I think I am a genius? I want an actual quote, nothing
less.

Your grammar indicates rage rather than humor.

My actual expertise is philosophy and psychology, you have narcissistic
personality disorder. That is what the world calls it. In Objectivism, we
call it misplaced self-esteem.

Now where exactly did I say I was a genius? I mean, I have some genius, but
I'm a C naive lover of OpenBSD - I'm a Redstone genius. I wouldn't mind a
ports related project to prove myself with. I've not tried to prove
anything. I've not been cocky. I've not been anything but inquisitive and
curious.

John

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Eric Furman ericfur...@fastmail.netwrote:

 The only reason I haven't added you to my kill file is your
 questions and responses are sooo idiotically moronic that
 you are hilarious! You are so fucking stupid you are falling
 down hilarious. What makes it even more funny is how smart
 you think you are! LMFAO!
 God, if I had a nickle for every fucking retard like you
 I've met that thought that they were a genius
 Oh yea, I sent this to the list also to humiliate you.
 Please keep posting though, you really crack me up.

 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011, at 06:15 PM, John Tate wrote:
  No, I'm an idiot. Not kidding at all. Is that a yes for Or is it just
  hand
  made?
 
  On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Theo de Raadt
  dera...@cvs.openbsd.orgwrote:
 
I am wondering what software if any generates the OpenBSD and similar
websites. It appears to be a static page generated by some software,
 that
software doesn't seem to be mentioned. What is it? Or is it just hand
   made?
  
   Are you kidding?
  
 
 
 
  --
  www.johntate.org
 
 




-- 
www.johntate.org



Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread richo
On 10/12/11 23:34 +1100, John Tate wrote:
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Eric Furman ericfur...@fastmail.netwrote:

 The only reason I haven't added you to my kill file is your
 questions and responses are sooo idiotically moronic that
 you are hilarious! You are so fucking stupid you are falling
 down hilarious. What makes it even more funny is how smart
 you think you are! LMFAO!
 God, if I had a nickle for every fucking retard like you
 I've met that thought that they were a genius
 Oh yea, I sent this to the list also to humiliate you.
 Please keep posting though, you really crack me up.

Where did I state I think I am a genius? I want an actual quote, nothing
less.

Your grammar indicates rage rather than humor.

My actual expertise is philosophy and psychology, you have narcissistic
personality disorder. That is what the world calls it. In Objectivism, we
call it misplaced self-esteem.

Now where exactly did I say I was a genius? I mean, I have some genius, but
I'm a C naive lover of OpenBSD - I'm a Redstone genius. I wouldn't mind a
ports related project to prove myself with. I've not tried to prove
anything. I've not been cocky. I've not been anything but inquisitive and
curious.

John

You throw the words hacker and guru about in relation to yourself a lot on
your blog, in the world of FOSS they translate fairly literally to genius, or
potentially represent a subset thereof.

While I don't necessarily support the personal attacks, I can't say I totally
disagree with the vibe of it.

Please don't presume to psycho-analyse members of the list, and please
develop some modesty. If you want hand holding and someone to explain
something which is already documented, I would recommend one of the more
newby friendly linuxes.

--
richo || Today's excuse:

The vendor put the bug there.
http://blog.psych0tik.net

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Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread John Tate
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:42 PM, richo ri...@psych0tik.net wrote:

 On 10/12/11 23:34 +1100, John Tate wrote:

 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Eric Furman ericfur...@fastmail.net**
 wrote:

  The only reason I haven't added you to my kill file is your
 questions and responses are sooo idiotically moronic that
 you are hilarious! You are so fucking stupid you are falling
 down hilarious. What makes it even more funny is how smart
 you think you are! LMFAO!
 God, if I had a nickle for every fucking retard like you
 I've met that thought that they were a genius
 Oh yea, I sent this to the list also to humiliate you.
 Please keep posting though, you really crack me up.

  Where did I state I think I am a genius? I want an actual quote, nothing
 less.

 Your grammar indicates rage rather than humor.

 My actual expertise is philosophy and psychology, you have narcissistic
 personality disorder. That is what the world calls it. In Objectivism, we
 call it misplaced self-esteem.

 Now where exactly did I say I was a genius? I mean, I have some genius,
 but
 I'm a C naive lover of OpenBSD - I'm a Redstone genius. I wouldn't mind a
 ports related project to prove myself with. I've not tried to prove
 anything. I've not been cocky. I've not been anything but inquisitive and
 curious.

 John

  You throw the words hacker and guru about in relation to yourself a lot
 on
 your blog, in the world of FOSS they translate fairly literally to genius,
 or
 potentially represent a subset thereof.

I am a guru of Linux systems with an immense respect for OpenBSD.

Stay off my website, I wish I could make it Objectivists only, because what
you are all doing is a STRAWMAN of my blog. I did not intend for it to be
that way, you had to, in your words *translate*. In my words that means
strawman.

Don't enter a logical debate with me. I am not interested.


 While I don't necessarily support the personal attacks, I can't say I
 totally
 disagree with the vibe of it.

 Please don't presume to psycho-analyse members of the list, and please
 develop some modesty. If you want hand holding and someone to explain
 something which is already documented, I would recommend one of the more
 newby friendly linuxes.

 --
 richo || Today's excuse:

 The vendor put the bug there.
 http://blog.psych0tik.net




-- 
www.johntate.org



Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread richo
On 10/12/11 23:56 +1100, John Tate wrote:
   On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:42 PM, richo ri...@psych0tik.net wrote:
While I don't necessarily support the personal attacks, I can't say I
totally
disagree with the vibe of it.

Please don't presume to psycho-analyse members of the list, and please
develop some modesty. If you want hand holding and someone to explain
something which is already documented, I would recommend one of the more
newby friendly linuxes.
   I am a guru of Linux systems with an immense respect for OpenBSD.

   Stay off my website, I wish I could make it Objectivists only, because
   what you are all doing is a STRAWMAN of my blog. I did not intend for it
   to be that way, you had to, in your words translate. In my words that
   means strawman.

   Don't enter a logical debate with me. I am not interested.


Please don't top post. It makes it hard to read. If you must top post, please
post at the top of the message and not randomly halfway through. It makes it
impossible to read and a pain to fix (which I have done again).

The term guru, hacker and wizard are not generally applied to oneself. There
aren't many people I'd take seriously when they claimed it; and you're not
one of the. A cursory google suggests that you've never written anything, so
you'll forgive my doubts. Similarly, unless you're planning a one line post
with links to what you've written, I'm uninterested in this debate.

Demanding that I stay off your website, and then suggesting that you wish you
could make it accessible only to people who share your world view is in my
opinion retarded. I'm not convinced you really understand what freedom is. In
the name of helping the fellow man though, I recommend disconnecting that
machine from the internet immediately and mailing hardcopies of it's source
to parties you approave though, ideally encrypted such that character
assassins such as myself can't get hold of it's content in transit.

Finally, screaming strawman to redirect an argument away from it's original
point is delightfully poetic, but ultimately stupid. If people on the list
repeatedly take issue with your posts, it stands to reason that there is an
issue with your posts.

Some modesty would do you well, and unless you can populate 5 points of
reference that you've read throroughly in the footer of a I need help or
how does this work post, I would suggest that you have some more reading to
do.

richo

--
richo || Today's excuse:

monitor resolution too high
http://blog.psych0tik.net

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Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread Tony Abernethy
John Tate wrote:
Don't enter a logical debate with me. I am not interested.

Kinda says it all, don't your think?



Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread John Tate
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:04 AM, richo ri...@psych0tik.net wrote:

 On 10/12/11 23:56 +1100, John Tate wrote:

  On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:42 PM, richo ri...@psych0tik.net wrote:

   While I don't necessarily support the personal attacks, I can't say I
   totally
   disagree with the vibe of it.


Please don't presume to psycho-analyse members of the list, and please
   develop some modesty. If you want hand holding and someone to explain
   something which is already documented, I would recommend one of the
 more
   newby friendly linuxes.

  I am a guru of Linux systems with an immense respect for OpenBSD.

  Stay off my website, I wish I could make it Objectivists only, because
  what you are all doing is a STRAWMAN of my blog. I did not intend for it
  to be that way, you had to, in your words translate. In my words that
  means strawman.

  Don't enter a logical debate with me. I am not interested.


 Please don't top post. It makes it hard to read. If you must top post,
 please
 post at the top of the message and not randomly halfway through. It makes
 it
 impossible to read and a pain to fix (which I have done again).

 The term guru, hacker and wizard are not generally applied to oneself.
 There
 aren't many people I'd take seriously when they claimed it; and you're not
 one of the. A cursory google suggests that you've never written anything,
 so
 you'll forgive my doubts. Similarly, unless you're planning a one line post
 with links to what you've written, I'm uninterested in this debate.

 Demanding that I stay off your website, and then suggesting that you wish
 you
 could make it accessible only to people who share your world view is in my
 opinion retarded. I'm not convinced you really understand what freedom is.
 In
 the name of helping the fellow man though, I recommend disconnecting that
 machine from the internet immediately and mailing hardcopies of it's source
 to parties you approave though, ideally encrypted such that character
 assassins such as myself can't get hold of it's content in transit.

 Finally, screaming strawman to redirect an argument away from it's original
 point is delightfully poetic, but ultimately stupid. If people on the list
 repeatedly take issue with your posts, it stands to reason that there is an
 issue with your posts.

If the people of the list, are disconnected from the abstract concept of
people as in groups of people, and considered individuals - then actually
I'm having a good time because actually most the messages are not that bad,
some are helpful, and some like this thread are a little humiliating.


 Some modesty would do you well, and unless you can populate 5 points of
 reference that you've read throroughly in the footer of a I need help or
 how does this work post, I would suggest that you have some more reading
 to
 do.

Not a bad idea actually, but I do look around but you only have my word.


 richo


 --
 richo || Today's excuse:

 monitor resolution too high
 http://blog.psych0tik.net


Psychosis is a terrible illness.
-- 
www.johntate.org



Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread John Tate
A simple Google of your email address shows something extremely
humiliating. You know as little as I do!

-- Forwarded message --
From: Eric Furman ericfur...@fastmail.net
Date: Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?
To: John Tate j...@johntate.org, OpenBSD Misc misc@openbsd.org


The only reason I haven't added you to my kill file is your
questions and responses are sooo idiotically moronic that
you are hilarious! You are so fucking stupid you are falling
down hilarious. What makes it even more funny is how smart
you think you are! LMFAO!
God, if I had a nickle for every fucking retard like you
I've met that thought that they were a genius
Oh yea, I sent this to the list also to humiliate you.
Please keep posting though, you really crack me up.

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011, at 06:15 PM, John Tate wrote:
 No, I'm an idiot. Not kidding at all. Is that a yes for Or is it just
 hand
 made?

 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Theo de Raadt
 dera...@cvs.openbsd.orgwrote:

   I am wondering what software if any generates the OpenBSD and similar
   websites. It appears to be a static page generated by some software,
that
   software doesn't seem to be mentioned. What is it? Or is it just hand
  made?
 
  Are you kidding?
 



 --
 www.johntate.org





-- 
www.johntate.org



Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread Javier Bassi
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
 I am wondering what software if any generates the OpenBSD and similar
 websites. It appears to be a static page generated by some software, that
 software doesn't seem to be mentioned. What is it? Or is it just hand made?

 Are you kidding?


Theo I have noticed you changed http to html tag in the index of
your website. You might also want to fix these specific pages:
http://www.theos.com/deraadt/cats.html
http://www.theos.com/deraadt/brew.html

And remember that every time you forget the body tag, Tim Berners
Lee kills a kitten


@misc, leave the kid alone.



Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011, Eric Furman wrote:

 The only reason I haven't added you to my kill file is your
 questions and responses are sooo idiotically moronic that
 you are hilarious! You are so fucking stupid you are falling
 down hilarious. What makes it even more funny is how smart
 you think you are! LMFAO!
 God, if I had a nickle for every fucking retard like you
 I've met that thought that they were a genius
 Oh yea, I sent this to the list also to humiliate you.
 Please keep posting though, you really crack me up.

Thanks for the post - it is MUCH more entertaining to read such drivel
than the original quesiton.



Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 01:07:36PM -0300, Javier Bassi wrote:
 And remember that every time you forget the body tag, Tim Berners
 Lee kills a kitten

Good, sooner or later that pervert will get caught.

It's already enough that he got away inflicting the internet on the masses.



USB serial port adaptor

2011-12-10 Thread Mark Zimmerman
Greetings:

I need to buy a USB serial port adapter and there is no specific mention
of these in the supported hardware list. Archive search indicates that
they all suck, but the Prolific chipset sucks less. Anyone care to offer
a recommendation?

Thanks
-- Mark



Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread Nomen Nescio
Oh man, you are drastically reducing the average intelligence of any
group you join.

But I liked this admission on your blog:

Just for the record, I make no illusions about being a complete jerk. Nor
have I ever tried to be nice to a stranger once in my life, unless it was
a homeless person whom could buy me alcohol or cigarettes as a teenager.
I am a callous, rude, and unforgiving person. To the accusations against
me I will plead: guilty as charged. I am an arsehole.

Source: http://old.johntate.org/node/316?page=1

Considering that you proudly admit to being an asshole, with zero
consideration for your fellow man, don't you think that you are sometimes
expecting too much from others? You asshole!

John Tate j...@johntate.org wrote:

 Where did I state I think I am a genius? I want an actual quote, nothing
 less.

 Your grammar indicates rage rather than humor.

 My actual expertise is philosophy and psychology, you have narcissistic
 personality disorder. That is what the world calls it. In Objectivism, we
 call it misplaced self-esteem.

[snip]

You are projecting, you really are the one with the most obvious disorders
on this list.

And although I can't bring myself to read through the diarrhea on your
site, it seems that the majority of your philosophy posts are about
bashing an Objectivist Ph.D in philosophy. Your level is ...? And yet you
pretend to speak for Objectivists.

Please don't think this guy understands Objectivism better than he
understands OpenBSD, C++, psychology, or anything.



Re: USB serial port adaptor

2011-12-10 Thread Bryan
I have a PL-2303 USB-to-Serial Port Adapter from Prolific...


You can download the drivers for windows, and OpenBSD connects as
/dev/cuaU0 normally.  Works great on connecting my laptop to my ALIX
board at home.

cu -s 38400 -l /dev/cuaU0

Of course, you can't get output from my laptop, because of the USB
nature...   but it works great with the proper connectors...

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 10:07, Mark Zimmerman markz...@frii.com wrote:
 Greetings:

 I need to buy a USB serial port adapter and there is no specific mention
 of these in the supported hardware list. Archive search indicates that
 they all suck, but the Prolific chipset sucks less. Anyone care to offer
 a recommendation?

 Thanks
 -- Mark



Re: USB serial port adaptor - umct(4) works fine

2011-12-10 Thread Christopher Zimmermann
On 12/10/11 17:07, Mark Zimmerman wrote:
 Greetings:
 
 I need to buy a USB serial port adapter and there is no specific mention
 of these in the supported hardware list. Archive search indicates that
 they all suck, but the Prolific chipset sucks less. Anyone care to offer
 a recommendation?


For me the umct(4) adapter works fine.
It is part of the Targus USB2.0 Port Replicator with Ethernet
Every component of it works fine. USB hub, PS/2 keybord and mouse,
serial, parallel and 100MBit ethernet.


uhub2 at uhub0 port 3 Philips Semiconductors product 0x1521 rev
2.00/2.00 addr 5
umct0 at uhub2 port 1 Targus Group Intl Targus Group Intl rev
1.10/1.03 addr 6
ucom0 at umct0
uhidev2 at uhub2 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 MCT USB PS/2
Keyboard - PS/2 Mouse rev 1.01/0.01 addr 7
uhidev2: iclass 3/1
ukbd1 at uhidev2: 8 modifier keys, 6 key codes
wskbd2 at ukbd1 mux 1
wskbd2: connecting to wsdisplay0
uhidev3 at uhub2 port 2 configuration 1 interface 1 MCT USB PS/2
Keyboard - PS/2 Mouse rev 1.01/0.01 addr 7
uhidev3: iclass 3/1, 3 report ids
ums1 at uhidev3 reportid 1: 3 buttons, Z dir
wsmouse3 at ums1 mux 0
uhid0 at uhidev3 reportid 2: input=1, output=0, feature=0
uhid1 at uhidev3 reportid 3: input=1, output=0, feature=0
aue0 at uhub2 port 5 ADMtek USB To LAN Converter rev 2.00/1.01 addr 8
aue0: address 00:05:1b:e5:9a:02
ukphy0 at aue0 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface, rev. 1: OUI
0x000749, model 0x0001
ulpt0 at uhub2 port 6 configuration 1 interface 0 Lucent USS-720
evaluation kit rev 1.00/1.04 addr 9
ulpt0: using bi-directional mode



Re: USB serial port adaptor

2011-12-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
I had no problems with ubsa or single port uplcom, they also work for sending
BREAK (this is not the case with all USB RS-232 adapters).

There are some dual and quad port uplcom devices, the ones I tried don't
work too well.


On 2011-12-10, Mark Zimmerman markz...@frii.com wrote:
 Greetings:

 I need to buy a USB serial port adapter and there is no specific mention
 of these in the supported hardware list. Archive search indicates that
 they all suck, but the Prolific chipset sucks less. Anyone care to offer
 a recommendation?

 Thanks
 -- Mark



Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
How does one top post halfway through a message? The mind boggles.

On 2011-12-10, richo ri...@psych0tik.net wrote:
 Please don't top post. It makes it hard to read. If you must top post, please
 post at the top of the message and not randomly halfway through. It makes it
 impossible to read and a pain to fix (which I have done again).



Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread Bentley, Dain
This discussion does not contribute to either furthering peoples knowledge
of OpenBSD, or provide any technical guidance. Can we just let bygones be
bygones and move on and stop spamming the list with this nonsense

Regards,
Dain Bentley

-Original Message-
From: Nomen Nescio [nob...@dizum.com]
Received: Saturday, 10 Dec 2011, 1:11pm
To: misc@openbsd.org [misc@openbsd.org]
Subject: Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

Oh man, you are drastically reducing the average intelligence of any
group you join.

But I liked this admission on your blog:

Just for the record, I make no illusions about being a complete jerk. Nor
have I ever tried to be nice to a stranger once in my life, unless it was
a homeless person whom could buy me alcohol or cigarettes as a teenager.
I am a callous, rude, and unforgiving person. To the accusations against
me I will plead: guilty as charged. I am an arsehole.

Source: http://old.johntate.org/node/316?page=1

Considering that you proudly admit to being an asshole, with zero
consideration for your fellow man, don't you think that you are sometimes
expecting too much from others? You asshole!

John Tate j...@johntate.org wrote:

 Where did I state I think I am a genius? I want an actual quote, nothing
 less.

 Your grammar indicates rage rather than humor.

 My actual expertise is philosophy and psychology, you have narcissistic
 personality disorder. That is what the world calls it. In Objectivism, we
 call it misplaced self-esteem.

[snip]

You are projecting, you really are the one with the most obvious disorders
on this list.

And although I can't bring myself to read through the diarrhea on your
site, it seems that the majority of your philosophy posts are about
bashing an Objectivist Ph.D in philosophy. Your level is ...? And yet you
pretend to speak for Objectivists.

Please don't think this guy understands Objectivism better than he
understands OpenBSD, C++, psychology, or anything.



Re: USB serial port adaptor

2011-12-10 Thread Mark Zimmerman
Thanks; That's exactly what I need it for.

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 01:07:34PM -0600, Bryan wrote:
 I have a PL-2303 USB-to-Serial Port Adapter from Prolific...
 
 
 You can download the drivers for windows, and OpenBSD connects as
 /dev/cuaU0 normally.  Works great on connecting my laptop to my ALIX
 board at home.
 
 cu -s 38400 -l /dev/cuaU0
 
 Of course, you can't get output from my laptop, because of the USB
 nature...   but it works great with the proper connectors...
 
 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 10:07, Mark Zimmerman markz...@frii.com wrote:
  Greetings:
 
  I need to buy a USB serial port adapter and there is no specific mention
  of these in the supported hardware list. Archive search indicates that
  they all suck, but the Prolific chipset sucks less. Anyone care to offer
  a recommendation?
 
  Thanks
  -- Mark



Re: USB serial port adaptor

2011-12-10 Thread Paulo Manoel Mafra
Hi, I've a bunch of LeaderShip 8430 which has a Prolific PL-2303 chip and 
use the uplcom driver (besides it is not listed in the uplcom man pages
it works fine).


On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 08:39:20PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
* I had no problems with ubsa or single port uplcom, they also work for sending
* BREAK (this is not the case with all USB RS-232 adapters).
* 
* There are some dual and quad port uplcom devices, the ones I tried don't
* work too well.
* 
* 
* On 2011-12-10, Mark Zimmerman markz...@frii.com wrote:
*  Greetings:
* 
*  I need to buy a USB serial port adapter and there is no specific mention
*  of these in the supported hardware list. Archive search indicates that
*  they all suck, but the Prolific chipset sucks less. Anyone care to offer
*  a recommendation?
* 
*  Thanks
*  -- Mark
* 



Paulo Manoel Mafra
Grupo de Computacao Segura e Confiavel - GCSEG
Departamento de Automacao e Sistemas
Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina
Vitam Impendere Vero



Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread John Tate
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Nomen Nescio nob...@dizum.com wrote:

 Oh man, you are drastically reducing the average intelligence of any
 group you join.

 But I liked this admission on your blog:

 Just for the record, I make no illusions about being a complete jerk. Nor
 have I ever tried to be nice to a stranger once in my life, unless it was
 a homeless person whom could buy me alcohol or cigarettes as a teenager.
 I am a callous, rude, and unforgiving person. To the accusations against
 me I will plead: guilty as charged. I am an arsehole.

 Source: http://old.johntate.org/node/316?page=1

 Considering that you proudly admit to being an asshole, with zero
 consideration for your fellow man, don't you think that you are sometimes
 expecting too much from others? You asshole!

 John Tate j...@johntate.org wrote:

  Where did I state I think I am a genius? I want an actual quote, nothing
  less.
 
  Your grammar indicates rage rather than humor.
 
  My actual expertise is philosophy and psychology, you have narcissistic
  personality disorder. That is what the world calls it. In Objectivism, we
  call it misplaced self-esteem.

 [snip]

 You are projecting, you really are the one with the most obvious disorders
 on this list.

 And although I can't bring myself to read through the diarrhea on your
 site, it seems that the majority of your philosophy posts are about
 bashing an Objectivist Ph.D in philosophy. Your level is ...? And yet you
 pretend to speak for Objectivists.

 Please don't think this guy understands Objectivism better than he
 understands OpenBSD, C++, psychology, or anything.

Why is it so important that you must plead the list for this? You are a
people-obsessed loser.



-- 
www.johntate.org



Re: Mplayer vo on loongson, change resolution

2011-12-10 Thread John Tate
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:34 AM, alies pub...@omega.hopto.org wrote:

 Hello

 What mplayer -vo I need to use for best performance in loongson Yeeloong
 netbook? Can I use full fullscreen in mplayer?



 What about sdl games (quake, doom etc), can I change resolution?

 I could change resolution with OpenBSD 5.0 in Openarena (Quake III Arena
with community made textures and stuff) but for whatever reason (probably
OpenBSD's crazy mmap() - because I had direct rendering) it was incredibly
laggy and unplayable. If OpenBSD was more popular it might have games
written for it, since its far less of a moving target for developers than
most Linux distros.


-- 
www.johntate.org



Re: using ssh to forward the install console

2011-12-10 Thread Corey

On 12/07/2011 01:47 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

hello group.

I have an interesting (and fairly technical) question.

the question is: how can I forward the install screen via ssh to another
machine on my network? I ask this because I didn't see any specific
instructions that applied. my issue right now is that I need a sighted
assistant to read me the screen and help with  installing the base system (and
setting up ssh).

I would like to run the install like from a serial port output (like the old
spark pizza boxes) but none of my current machines have a serial port to do
this on.

comments? suggestions?

-eric

If you don't require the serial console, maybe you can use an IP KVM 
appliance?


They still cost some money, but the cheapest one I've found is on sale 
for $200 US right now:


http://www.lantronix.com/it-management/kvm-over-ip/securelinx-spiderduo.html

It's basically an embedded OS (Linux, probably) running on an ARM or 
something with a frame grabber for the video and USB and legacy keyboard 
and mouse ports. Gives you BIOS-level access to the box over what looks 
like a custom VNC implementation, and it can be tunneled over SSH. Most 
can also access a serial port, but that may be moot in this case if you 
have the video output.


They're not perfect, but probably enough to get an install done.

Corey



Re: using ssh to forward the install console

2011-12-10 Thread Eric Oyen
oh yeah. forgot about those. I had one on an old firewall box. unfortunately,
it was the old ISA bus and all my current machines are pci-e.

thanks for the reminder.

-eric

On Dec 10, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Corey wrote:

 On 12/07/2011 01:47 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
 hello group.

 I have an interesting (and fairly technical) question.

 the question is: how can I forward the install screen via ssh to another
 machine on my network? I ask this because I didn't see any specific
 instructions that applied. my issue right now is that I need a sighted
 assistant to read me the screen and help with  installing the base system
(and
 setting up ssh).

 I would like to run the install like from a serial port output (like the
old
 spark pizza boxes) but none of my current machines have a serial port to
do
 this on.

 comments? suggestions?

 -eric

 If you don't require the serial console, maybe you can use an IP KVM
appliance?

 They still cost some money, but the cheapest one I've found is on sale for
$200 US right now:


http://www.lantronix.com/it-management/kvm-over-ip/securelinx-spiderduo.html

 It's basically an embedded OS (Linux, probably) running on an ARM or
something with a frame grabber for the video and USB and legacy keyboard and
mouse ports. Gives you BIOS-level access to the box over what looks like a
custom VNC implementation, and it can be tunneled over SSH. Most can also
access a serial port, but that may be moot in this case if you have the video
output.

 They're not perfect, but probably enough to get an install done.

 Corey