Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-26 Thread Philip Guenther
To answer your original question: yes, 6.3 is almost here. We've been running this schedule of twice a year releases for *decades*, so you as a fan of stable OpenBSD releases should be familiar with the time frames by now, no? On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:31 PM, Z Ero

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-26 Thread Theo de Raadt
Your specification and requirements are so clear. But this isn't a pony shop. Who cares what you want? Really, noone. > I just don't want OpenBSD to turn into Linux where the fixation is on > newest shiny thing rather than doing code right. Sometimes I think > people who are excessively

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-26 Thread Z Ero
I just don't want OpenBSD to turn into Linux where the fixation is on newest shiny thing rather than doing code right. Sometimes I think people who are excessively interested in bleeding edge features more want an OS for tinkering with than an OS for production / work. I want something stable to

Re: segfault when exiting a program

2018-03-26 Thread Philip Guenther
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Nicolas Schmidt wrote: > > a while ago I posted on this list because of a problem I experienced with > building OpenBSD 6.2-current from source (the base system, not the kernel). https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Flavors I'm not

segfault when exiting a program

2018-03-26 Thread Nicolas Schmidt
Hi, a while ago I posted on this list because of a problem I experienced with building OpenBSD 6.2-current from source (the base system, not the kernel). Today I found the culprit, and it's rather strange: returning from main(), or calling exit() explicitly causes a segmentation fault. A

Re: "pkg_add automake%latest" can be done, or user needs to script it himself?

2018-03-26 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2018-03-26, Chris Bennett wrote: > There are a few packages that you need to manually massage. > auto* is a good example if you want them all. > ghostscript is another. I want the gtk version, but it defaults to > plain ghostscript since that dependency is

Re: PPPoE connection closing right after authentication?

2018-03-26 Thread Sebastian Benoit
Jon Martin(jmg...@gmail.com) on 2018.03.22 13:19:51 -0600: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:27:16AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > > It's not clear from your mail, have you tried just using CHAP? > > That's what I get for writing e-mails in the middle of the night. > > I did try CHAP: > >

How is the synaptics driver loaded in OpenBSD v6.2, thanks.

2018-03-26 Thread Zsolt Kantor
Hello to all.  I'm using OpenBSD 6.2. I try to figure out how is loaded the synaptics driver. In the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file I can see that the driver is loaded by X: LoadModule: "synaptics" Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so . . .   But I can not find in any configuration

Re: OpenBGPd Changes from 5.x to 6.2

2018-03-26 Thread Sebastian Benoit
Mike Hammett(openbsd-m...@ics-il.net) on 2018.03.26 10:34:24 -0500: > Did the config for openbgpd change from 5 to 6? I copied a config file Yes. > over and it complains about a line I have, `softreconfig in yes`. It > doesn't show in https://man.openbsd.org/bgpd.conf but >

Re: Design-Implementation-FreeBSD-Operating-System

2018-03-26 Thread Austin Hook
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018, elo morio wrote: > Thank you guys for you responses, they have really been very helpful. Mr. > Austin I Would really appreciate a copy of the book. What would be needed > then? Great! Will reply off list.

OpenBGPd Changes from 5.x to 6.2

2018-03-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Did the config for openbgpd change from 5 to 6? I copied a config file over and it complains about a line I have, `softreconfig in yes`. It doesn't show in https://man.openbsd.org/bgpd.conf but https://man.openbsd.org/bgpctl references it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: "pkg_add automake%latest" can be done, or user needs to script it himself?

2018-03-26 Thread Chris Bennett
There are a few packages that you need to manually massage. auto* is a good example if you want them all. ghostscript is another. I want the gtk version, but it defaults to plain ghostscript since that dependency is called by earlier packages being installed. ghostscript, amongst several others,

Re: locale settings for spelling, paper size, etc

2018-03-26 Thread Allan Streib
Austin Hook writes: > I have for a long time set my /etc/papersize to "letter". In my > experience Firefox ignores it. At some point the default setup for the > Firefox package became A4 and I have to manually re-set it to letter, > manually in the pop-up, whenever I print.

Re: Xorg hangs on startup (skylake)

2018-03-26 Thread fedelodo
abi wrote > On 10.03.2018 14:29, Stefan Sperling wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 02:18:16PM +0300, abi wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm new to OpenBSD, but I'm old FreeBSD user. I've installed >>> >>> OpenBSD 6.2 to XPS 13 /Skylake/ laptop (it runs FreeBSD with >>> unsignificant >>> issues). >>>

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-26 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2018-03-25, Z Ero wrote: > Is 6.3 release almost here? Is that why? If you are using your > computer for production and are not actively developing / debugging > OpenBSD why would you run a current snapshot rather than the stable > release? Just curious. - easy access

Re: which mirrors list ?

2018-03-26 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2018-03-25, vincent delft wrote: > Hello, > > I'm just discovering that there are several sources of mirrors for http(s) > sites. > > Is there any specific reasons why different sources with different content > ? > Are they all up-to-date ? > > >

Re: "pkg_add automake%latest" can be done, or user needs to script it himself?

2018-03-26 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2018-03-26, Tinker wrote: > "pkg_add automake" asks you interactively which version you would like > to install. Similarly specifying "noninteractive" and "fuzzy" mode both > don't have the effect of installing the latest version, see pkg_add > output below. # pkg_add

Re: Design-Implementation-FreeBSD-Operating-System

2018-03-26 Thread elo morio
Thank you guys for you responses, they have really been very helpful. Mr. Austin I Would really appreciate a copy of the book. What would be needed then? On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 8:06 AM Austin Hook wrote: > On Sat, 24 Mar 2018, elo morio wrote: > > Are there any existing

Design-Implementation-FreeBSD-Operating-System

2018-03-26 Thread Austin Hook
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018, elo morio wrote: > Are there any existing Documentation, manuals or supplementary > expository books that details out the internals of OpenBSD. Otherwise > what books or materials would be close enough to better aid the newbie > wishing to hack on the systems internals. As

Re: locale settings for spelling, paper size, etc

2018-03-26 Thread Austin Hook
I have for a long time set my /etc/papersize to "letter". In my experience Firefox ignores it. At some point the default setup for the Firefox package became A4 and I have to manually re-set it to letter, manually in the pop-up, whenever I print. Can't make it default to letter. Can't

"pkg_add automake%latest" can be done, or user needs to script it himself?

2018-03-26 Thread Tinker
Hi! Some packages, such as automake and autoconf, come in more versions within the same flavor. Certain ports will depend on a particular version of a package, and that's why more versions of the same package and flavor are distributed. As a user, you may be fine with just knowing that the