Re: Yes: The linux devs can rescind their license grant. GPLv2 is a bare license and is revocable by the grantor.

2018-12-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, i'm not replying to the trolls (or their off-topic rants) in this thread, and i'm not spamming other project's lists. Instead, i'd merely like to clarify a point that is actually on topic on this list, to avoid that users get confused by FUD. One of the trolls wrote: > A gratuitous

FU: RE: Why is no one discussing this anymore?

2018-12-27 Thread leo_tck
zeur here. I now[0] see that a whole bunch of lists were Cc'd, and while I'm not sorry for not preserving the Ccs, I realize that you might not have been addressing us, misc@OpenBSD.org. I still think my point holds, though. This should be a matter of great concern for OpenBSD, like it is to

RE: Why is no one discussing this anymore?

2018-12-27 Thread leo_tck
zeur here. > This whole discussion is best served elsewhere. Yeah, comfortably away from an affected project, for sure! Remember what happened w/ ipf(4)? Now imagine peope getting angry at theo (not an uncommon thing, given his behaviour), and retaliating by revoking their license to crucial

RE: Yes: The linux devs can rescind their license grant. GPLv2 is a bare license and is revocable by the grantor.

2018-12-27 Thread leo_tck
zeur here. > NOTHING to hold them to a promise THEY NEVER MADE. This is what I've suspected for a long time -- the only solution appears to be the public domain. For jurisdictions were the public domain is not legally recognized (I've been told they exist), a workaround /may/ be to not attach

Re: Why is no one discussing this anymore?

2018-12-27 Thread Michael Loginov
What is going on here? It seems to me, that I have to stop using my lovely, my the best and my other such the words FreeBSD. Why should I stop? Because of theese stupid, totally political, totally bullshits! Does the FreeBSD dying under those "modern” tolerancy? It was the best system, I really

Re: Why is no one discussing this anymore?

2018-12-27 Thread vsnsdualce
Waiting quietly for two months for Eben Moglen's preliminary write-up (which I was to be sent to "correct") got me no-where. Every seems to have concluded that the issue is settled since there was no more public discussion. All the "other side" said was "nuh-uh" and "you're not a lawyer"

Re: Why is no one discussing this anymore?

2018-12-27 Thread Christopher Turkel
This whole discussion is best served elsewhere. On Thursday, December 27, 2018, wrote: > Why is no one discussing this anymore. > > It's like you just accepted the "NU UH U WRONG" proclamation from > programmers. > > Are you idiots aware that programmers DO NOT KNOW THE LAW simply by virtue >

Re: Why is no one discussing this anymore?

2018-12-27 Thread Bon Onlines
Are you aware we are in the end of year holidays? I recommend you to not call others as an idiot, as the only idiot here are you ;) On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 9:31 PM wrote: > > Why is no one discussing this anymore. > > It's like you just accepted the "NU UH U WRONG" proclamation from >

Why is no one discussing this anymore?

2018-12-27 Thread vsnsdualce
Why is no one discussing this anymore. It's like you just accepted the "NU UH U WRONG" proclamation from programmers. Are you idiots aware that programmers DO NOT KNOW THE LAW simply by virtue of being "smarts"? Are you idiots aware that I am a lawyer, I have studied the law, and I do

Re: Yes: The linux devs can rescind their license grant. GPLv2 is a bare license and is revocable by the grantor.

2018-12-27 Thread vsnsdualce
(2) ... (I am not going to go over the legal mistakes you've made, because of (1))... I have not made legal mistakes, pompous programmer asshole*. A gratuitous license, absent an attached interest, is revocable at will. This goes for GPLv2 as used by linux, just as it goes for the BSD

Error output from ndp -an

2018-12-27 Thread Aaron Riekenberg
I'm using OpenBSD 6.4 on a pcengines apu2 box as a router/firewall for a CenturyLink DSL (pppoe) connection. Today I set up rd6 for ipv6 for the first time, similar to what is described here: https://gist.github.com/afresh1/791343380b4410687d51fdd94f20bd42 Things are working well but one minor

Re: ports/devel/pygame make install error

2018-12-27 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
> >> i have openbsd 6.4 release installed > >> how do i fix this ? Don't mix release with current ports. Either install a current snapshot or ... > doas cvs -d anon...@anoncvs1.ca.openbsd.org:/cvs -q up -Pd -A > rm -rf /usr/ports And checkout a release ports tree. See the FAQ for

Re: ports/devel/pygame make install error

2018-12-27 Thread shadrock uhuru
On 12/27/18 3:48 AM, Anthony J. Bentley wrote: > shadrock uhuru writes: >> hi everyone >> >> i have openbsd 6.4 release installed >> >> when i try to make install  ports/devel/pygame i get an error stating >> >> create /usr/ports/packages/amd64/all/py-game-1.9.3.tgz >> error: Libraries in