is the april 19 iso on planetunix official

2021-04-22 Thread Olive Power
is the april 19 iso on planetunix official
all other cdn (cfloudflare verizon leaseweb) no iso
and what is the "openbse" on events.html
and can u fix some link on that page including
the "humppa music"


Any love for HPGL?

2021-04-22 Thread Steve Fairhead

Hi folks,

Years back (late 80s, 90s) I wrote a comprehensive HPGL emulation 
package, with support from a hardware manufacturer (and HP):


http://www.sfdesign.co.uk/hpglexp.htm

Over the years I've seen it integrated into several HPGL viewer 
utilities (without my permission, of course).


Would this be of any use/interest to the open-source community? Or is 
HPGL now toast? The C code is just sitting here gathering dust (as is my 
one remaining HP plotter).


Steve



Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-22 Thread jpeg bild
On Thu Apr 22, 2021 at 12:00 PM CST, Balder Oddson wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 12:28:28AM +0200, Balder Oddson wrote:
> > Whereof everyone is interested,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > A few things about his architecture is extraordinary special.
> > 
> > #1 ideal properties, can never be done better for some things.
> > #1.1 analogue, you need ground and good drain, to do work during weak force 
> > pull.
> > #1.2 physical, independent IC's, relying on physics for syncronization.
> > #1.2.1 allowing digital global sync between die slots, async, but local
> > sync with global clock.
> > #1.3 as a turing machine, everything is virtually represented with
> > arrays of addresesses in cintinous memory.
> > #1.3.1 You get scalar operations on your vectors with SIMD insutrctions.
> > #1.3.2 Remotely scatter data in remote memory, that is gathered into
> > another continous area of memory with addresses to data.
> > 
> > 
> > On the one hand, where this gives 8x the performance at a high price, it
> > likely caused as much awe, inspiration and anxiety in the finance sector
> > where Cray got the funding to research, build and sell these beasts.
> > 
> > The Cult of the Holy Cow, and The Cult of the Dead Cow are oxymorons if
> > the contexts abd historic circumstances are to be considered.
> > 
> > Using hex numbers, would ideally imply an understanding of the Cray
> > architecture, and why it perhaps now can be be software defined.
> > 
>
> The puns where uninviting, and didn't inspire snide remarks and comments
> that weren't drivel without content and context.
>
> Thereof interests in logic has invited investigations of tautologies as
> a concept in logic, whereof one cannt speak and merely add drivel.
>
> Not sure if it's true entirely, but for the orginal Cray's, first an
> engineer came to try and get it to work, if not, Seymour gave it a try
> before shipping a replacement. Likely because he tortured the
> electromechanical properties around the central part so much that it was
> touchy feely.
>
> Anyone intelligeble around this topic likely have passing interest for
> having a gray beard and being sick and tiered of "what did cray do",
> "what if he set a more reasonable goal than 10x the closest competitor".
>
>
> Ciao,
> Balder
you're just schizoposting now



Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-22 Thread jpeg bild
On Thu Apr 22, 2021 at 11:32 AM CST,  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:26:00AM -0600, jpeg bild wrote:
> >> Your postings are the result of recent secret MKULTRA experiments.
> >good to know the cia runs pysops in mailinglists too
> >gangstalking is confirmed real
>
> According to recently declassified CIA documents, most gangstalking
> perpetrators don't know they're doing it because they're being
> mind-controlled by the MKULTRA satellites. Now that you know, please
> stop gangstalking us.
look behind you pal



Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-22 Thread tetrahedra

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:26:00AM -0600, jpeg bild wrote:

Your postings are the result of recent secret MKULTRA experiments.

good to know the cia runs pysops in mailinglists too
gangstalking is confirmed real


According to recently declassified CIA documents, most gangstalking 
perpetrators don't know they're doing it because they're being 
mind-controlled by the MKULTRA satellites. Now that you know, please 
stop gangstalking us.




Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-22 Thread jpeg bild
On Thu Apr 22, 2021 at 8:27 AM CST, Chris Cappuccio wrote:
> Balder Oddson [ola...@gmail.com] wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:24:32AM +0200, Marc Espie wrote:
> > > Is this a new UMF experiment ?
> > 
> > Does it involve integrating this on a chip? Not sure if past successes
> > are that great.
> > 
>
> Your postings are the result of recent secret MKULTRA experiments.
good to know the cia runs pysops in mailinglists too
gangstalking is confirmed real



Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-22 Thread Balder Oddson
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 08:00:04PM +0200, Balder Oddson wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 12:28:28AM +0200, Balder Oddson wrote:
> > Whereof everyone is interested,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > A few things about his architecture is extraordinary special.
> > 
> > #1 ideal properties, can never be done better for some things.
> > #1.1 analogue, you need ground and good drain, to do work during weak force 
> > pull.
> > #1.2 physical, independent IC's, relying on physics for syncronization.
> > #1.2.1 allowing digital global sync between die slots, async, but local
> > sync with global clock.
> > #1.3 as a turing machine, everything is virtually represented with
> > arrays of addresesses in cintinous memory.
> > #1.3.1 You get scalar operations on your vectors with SIMD insutrctions.
> > #1.3.2 Remotely scatter data in remote memory, that is gathered into
> > another continous area of memory with addresses to data.
> > 
> > 
> > On the one hand, where this gives 8x the performance at a high price, it
> > likely caused as much awe, inspiration and anxiety in the finance sector
> > where Cray got the funding to research, build and sell these beasts.
> > 
> > The Cult of the Holy Cow, and The Cult of the Dead Cow are oxymorons if
> > the contexts abd historic circumstances are to be considered.
> > 
> > Using hex numbers, would ideally imply an understanding of the Cray
> > architecture, and why it perhaps now can be be software defined.
> > 
> 
> The puns where uninviting, and didn't inspire snide remarks and comments
> that weren't drivel without content and context.
> 
> Thereof interests in logic has invited investigations of tautologies as
> a concept in logic, whereof one cannt speak and merely add drivel.
> 
> Not sure if it's true entirely, but for the orginal Cray's, first an
> engineer came to try and get it to work, if not, Seymour gave it a try
> before shipping a replacement. Likely because he tortured the
> electromechanical properties around the central part so much that it was
> touchy feely.
> 
> Anyone intelligeble around this topic likely have passing interest for
> having a gray beard and being sick and tiered of "what did cray do",
> "what if he set a more reasonable goal than 10x the closest competitor".
> 

That how that machine worked, also synonymous with supercomputing which
essentially died with the company.

Only relevant reason to have a Demon as a logo for UNIX is allusions to
Maxwells tortured physics demon.

Anyone not a pundit, familiar with this may correct me?



Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-22 Thread m brandenberg

On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, Theo de Raadt wrote:


Balder,

Get your non-openbsd related crap off the openbsd lists.

In other words: go away.


Balder dash?



Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
Balder,

Get your non-openbsd related crap off the openbsd lists.

In other words: go away.


Balder Oddson  wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 12:28:28AM +0200, Balder Oddson wrote:
> > Whereof everyone is interested,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > A few things about his architecture is extraordinary special.
> > 
> > #1 ideal properties, can never be done better for some things.
> > #1.1 analogue, you need ground and good drain, to do work during weak force 
> > pull.
> > #1.2 physical, independent IC's, relying on physics for syncronization.
> > #1.2.1 allowing digital global sync between die slots, async, but local
> > sync with global clock.
> > #1.3 as a turing machine, everything is virtually represented with
> > arrays of addresesses in cintinous memory.
> > #1.3.1 You get scalar operations on your vectors with SIMD insutrctions.
> > #1.3.2 Remotely scatter data in remote memory, that is gathered into
> > another continous area of memory with addresses to data.
> > 
> > 
> > On the one hand, where this gives 8x the performance at a high price, it
> > likely caused as much awe, inspiration and anxiety in the finance sector
> > where Cray got the funding to research, build and sell these beasts.
> > 
> > The Cult of the Holy Cow, and The Cult of the Dead Cow are oxymorons if
> > the contexts abd historic circumstances are to be considered.
> > 
> > Using hex numbers, would ideally imply an understanding of the Cray
> > architecture, and why it perhaps now can be be software defined.
> > 
> 
> The puns where uninviting, and didn't inspire snide remarks and comments
> that weren't drivel without content and context.
> 
> Thereof interests in logic has invited investigations of tautologies as
> a concept in logic, whereof one cannt speak and merely add drivel.
> 
> Not sure if it's true entirely, but for the orginal Cray's, first an
> engineer came to try and get it to work, if not, Seymour gave it a try
> before shipping a replacement. Likely because he tortured the
> electromechanical properties around the central part so much that it was
> touchy feely.
> 
> Anyone intelligeble around this topic likely have passing interest for
> having a gray beard and being sick and tiered of "what did cray do",
> "what if he set a more reasonable goal than 10x the closest competitor".
> 
> 
> Ciao,
> Balder
> 



Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-22 Thread Balder Oddson
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 12:28:28AM +0200, Balder Oddson wrote:
> Whereof everyone is interested,
> 
> 
> 
> A few things about his architecture is extraordinary special.
> 
> #1 ideal properties, can never be done better for some things.
> #1.1 analogue, you need ground and good drain, to do work during weak force 
> pull.
> #1.2 physical, independent IC's, relying on physics for syncronization.
> #1.2.1 allowing digital global sync between die slots, async, but local
> sync with global clock.
> #1.3 as a turing machine, everything is virtually represented with
> arrays of addresesses in cintinous memory.
> #1.3.1 You get scalar operations on your vectors with SIMD insutrctions.
> #1.3.2 Remotely scatter data in remote memory, that is gathered into
> another continous area of memory with addresses to data.
> 
> 
> On the one hand, where this gives 8x the performance at a high price, it
> likely caused as much awe, inspiration and anxiety in the finance sector
> where Cray got the funding to research, build and sell these beasts.
> 
> The Cult of the Holy Cow, and The Cult of the Dead Cow are oxymorons if
> the contexts abd historic circumstances are to be considered.
> 
> Using hex numbers, would ideally imply an understanding of the Cray
> architecture, and why it perhaps now can be be software defined.
> 

The puns where uninviting, and didn't inspire snide remarks and comments
that weren't drivel without content and context.

Thereof interests in logic has invited investigations of tautologies as
a concept in logic, whereof one cannt speak and merely add drivel.

Not sure if it's true entirely, but for the orginal Cray's, first an
engineer came to try and get it to work, if not, Seymour gave it a try
before shipping a replacement. Likely because he tortured the
electromechanical properties around the central part so much that it was
touchy feely.

Anyone intelligeble around this topic likely have passing interest for
having a gray beard and being sick and tiered of "what did cray do",
"what if he set a more reasonable goal than 10x the closest competitor".


Ciao,
Balder



Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-22 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Balder Oddson [ola...@gmail.com] wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:24:32AM +0200, Marc Espie wrote:
> > Is this a new UMF experiment ?
> 
> Does it involve integrating this on a chip? Not sure if past successes
> are that great.
> 

Your postings are the result of recent secret MKULTRA experiments.



Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-22 Thread Balder Oddson
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:24:32AM +0200, Marc Espie wrote:
> Is this a new UMF experiment ?

Does it involve integrating this on a chip? Not sure if past successes
are that great.

-- 
Balder Oddson



Re: Trusted Boot with OpenBSD

2021-04-22 Thread podolica
Patching the assembly code is the work of Julius Zint -
not my work. I have only patched the patch files because
some of the old one doesn't work anymore. This is because
of some changes of OpenBSDs source code which are preventing
the patch util to find the lines to change.

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
Am Mittwoch, 21. April 2021 21:17 schrieb :

> That's very interesting, and good work patching the assembly code.
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 08:26:18AM +, podolica wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > I have tested if the trusted boot implementation
> > of Julius Zint for OpenBSD 6.5
> > (https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc=158255450604977=2)
> > is still working in OpenBSD 6.8.
> > Despite of some patch files that had to be updated,
> > all changes needed to be applied can be applied and
> > Trusted Boot can be used.
> > (Tested with an external hard drive and an amd64
> > ThinkPad with TPM module version 1.2)
> > Here are the new patch files. I did not provide them as
> > attachments because the netiquette says only the bugs,
> > ports and the tech mailing list are supporting
> > attachments although it was allowed when Julius Zint
> > made it's initial post. The files are beginning after
> > the `and are ending before the next` just like
> > in Markdown.
> >
> > gidt.S.patch
> >
> > =
> >
> > --- gidt.S.orig Mon Apr 19 13:22:32 2021
> > +++ gidt.S  Mon Apr 19 13:22:32 2021
> > @@ -432,11 +432,13 @@
> > movl%edi, _C_LABEL(BIOS_regs)+BIOSR_DI
> >
> > /* clear NT flag in eflags */
> > -   pushf
> > +   push%eax
> > +   pushf
> > pop %eax
> > and $0xbfff, %eax
> > push%eax
> > popf
> > +   pop %eax
> >
> > pop %gs
> > pop %fs
> >
> >
> >
> > cmd_i386.c.patch
> >
> > =
> >
> > --- cmd_i386.c.orig Mon Apr 19 13:23:44 2021
> > +++ cmd_i386.c  Mon Apr 19 13:23:44 2021
> > @@ -36,6 +36,7 @@
> > #include "biosdev.h"
> > #include "libsa.h"
> > #include 
> > +#include 
> >
> > extern const char version[];
> >
> > @@ -44,6 +45,7 @@
> > int Xdiskinfo(void);
> > int Xmemory(void);
> > int Xregs(void);
> > +int Xtpm(void);
> >
> > /* From gidt.S */
> > int bootbuf(void *, int);
> > @@ -53,11 +55,155 @@
> > { "comaddr",CMDT_CMD, Xcomaddr },
> > { "diskinfo",   CMDT_CMD, Xdiskinfo },
> > { "memory", CMDT_CMD, Xmemory },
> > +{ "tpm",CMDT_CMD, Xtpm },
> > #ifdef DEBUG
> > { "regs",   CMDT_CMD, Xregs },
> > #endif
> > { NULL, 0 }
> > };
> > +
> > +/**
> > + * print_memory - debugging functionality to dump memory region to 
> > screen
> > + * @buf:memory location to begin dump
> > + * @rows:   rows to print
> > + * @columns:columns to print
> > + *
> > + * Remarks: total bytes dumped = rows * columns
> > + */
> > +void
> > +print_memory(void* buf, uint32_t rows, uint32_t columns)
> > +{
> > +uint8_t* iter = buf;
> > +for(int i = 0; i < rows; i++) {
> > +printf("%03x:", i * columns);
> > +for(int k = 0; k < columns; k++) {
> > +printf(" %02x", *iter);
> > +iter++;
> > +}
> > +printf("\\n");
> > +}
> > +}
> > +
> > +#define SECRET_BLK_OFF 1
> > +
> > +int
> > +Xtpm(void)
> > +{
> > +int rc;
> > +uint8_t major = 0;
> > +uint8_t minor = 0;
> > +rc = tpm_statuscheck(, );
> > +   if(rc != 0) {
> > +printf("No TCG compliant BIOS available.\\n");
> > +   }
> > +   else if(major != 1 && minor != 2) {
> > +printf("Incompatible TCG BIOS version: %u.%u\\n", 
> > major, minor);
> > +   }
> > +   if (cmd.argc < 2) {
> > +printf("machine tpm r[andom]|p[cr]|u[nseal] 
> > [DiskNumber]|s[eal] secret [DiskNumber]\\n");
> > +printf("strlen(secret) <= 100\\n");
> > +return 0;
> > +}
> > +switch(cmd.argv[1][0]) {
> > +case 'r': {
> > +char random_buf[20];
> > +tpm_random(random_buf, 20);
> > +print_memory(random_buf, 2, 10);
> > +} break;
> > +case 'p': {
> > +tpm_printpcr(0, 15);
> > +} break;
> > +case 'u': {
> > +// load secret disk block
> > +int disk_number = 0x80;
> > +if(cmd.argc == 3) {
> > +disk_number = (int)strtol(cmd.argv[2], NULL, 0);
> > +   

Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-22 Thread Marc Espie
Is this a new UMF experiment ?



Re: Release schedule/general product engineering

2021-04-22 Thread Martin Schröder
Am Do., 22. Apr. 2021 um 09:28 Uhr schrieb Andrew Grillet
:
> I wanted to know approximately when the next release would be available

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq1.html#WhatIs

"The OpenBSD team makes a new release approximately every six months,
with the target release dates in May and November."

Best
Martin



Release schedule/general product engineering

2021-04-22 Thread Andrew Grillet
One of the key strengths of OpenBSD that it is well engineered - and
consequently robust
and reliable.

Management of the release engineering is key to this. (Cathedral, not bizarre).

However, release engineering is no longer mentioned on the home page
of www.openbsd.org,
and I could find no mention of it anywhere on the site.

  I wanted to know approximately when the next release would be
available to decide
  whether to install 6.8, a snapshot or wait for 6.9 for a machine I
have prepped and am
  going to configure "real soon now".

I also can no longer find architecture-specific change logs (to see if
work has been
done that might affect Sparc64 installs, and make things different from when I
installed 6.8 on this hardware last time).

*** I think it is worth making this info more visible both for
existing users (eg me) and
potential future users ***

I believe there will be future users (Netcraft notwithstanding) -
people are often p'd off
by other operating systems introducing new features they don't need
which clobber
the old ones they do - and might want to know there is a better way!
(Even if they don't use Sparc64). [Written in anticipation  of a
general drift away from
Intel and towards Arm by both server and workstation users]. There is
also the possibility
that people who have been hit by malware might want a more secure solution.

regards

Andrew