NIC order to OpenBSD's NIC's order?
If what you want to know is how to identify them, look at the MAC
addresses in the VMware machine and inside the OpenBSD VM.
I don't know of any way to re-arrange them, if that's what you meant.
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sysstat(1) is in base, but is not graphical.
What does using Gnome or KDE matter? As long as the necessary libraries are
installed, both Gnome and KDE apps will run under any X11 environment.
-Adam
On August 19, 2014 8:13:31 PM CDT, Long Wind longwind2...@gmail.com wrote:
I find xosview is
is configured in VMWare's vmx file.
Do you think its not possible?
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net
wrote:
On 14-08-19 06:48 PM, Dan Shechter wrote:
I am installing amd64 snapshot from aug 8 on vmware workstation.
This VM has 5 interfaces.
I have changed them
, upgrading OpenBSD could also - at least in theory -
change the detection order, too. I have not seen this happen since the
2.x days, I think, and I could easily be mistaken even there.
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whether (in the non-BGP case) I added
the route command as !route -n add -inet6 default 2001:470:1f04:204::1
to the hostname.gif0 file, or if I added it to /etc/mygate - one or the
other should work, anyway.
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anyone ever actually
use that?), which probably aren't what you want to be looking at now.
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I'm still baffled - why do you want to reject routes containing private ASNs?
It's strange and odd, but not invalid or illegal.
AFAICT, it's analogous to routing public IP traffic across a link that uses
RFC1918 addresses - completely irrelevant to the end-user.
Am I missing something?
-Adam
Unless I've mis-understood all the emails and reports about this, it affects
low-bandwidth queues, not low-bandwidth interfaces.
In other words, limiting traffic to 50Mbps on a 1Gb link will work fine,
limiting it to 50kbps on the same link will not.
Yes/no?
-Adam
On August 21, 2014 12:03:12
guess so far is that I've got the -G passtime too low, and
everyone talking to me so far is really aggressive and actually retries
correctly...? This server is still only a secondary MX for the domains
that get hit with lots of spam, so that's actually plausible.
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athom
. We'll see what happens when this becomes the primary MX.
Absent content filtering, I anticipate a large upswing in the amount of
spam landing in my inbox...
[1] http://www-plan.cs.colorado.edu/diwan/3308-07/p17-armour.pdf
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that here.
Am I missing anything that could help me?
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athom...@athompso.net
On 14-08-22 12:09 PM, Claus Assmann wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014, Adam Thompson wrote:
I have a large number of email tags, but use both + and - as a
separator.
So far, I'm entering all the - ones into aliases; is there a better way to
do this?
In postfix, I was able to use a regex to manipulate
video of the boot screen, not sure how to get serial
console output that early in the process.
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On 14-08-23 05:49 PM, Adam Thompson wrote:
Copying install55.fs to a USB stick and booting from it starts to
boot, gets part-way through the boot process, then suddenly reboots.
All amd64 images fail in exactly the same way. The server logs a
Machine Check Exception on CPU1 along
. There are all sorts of things that could prevent you from
doing this, and if you can't work past them, you probably should just
throw the drive away.
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That means they screwed up somewhere. Yes, you'll have to create a new account
on their new system - that's kind of the point, they acquired the business and
transitioned it to their own platform.
I've been dealing with (and recommending) EasyDNS since 1999, and their
technical support is
--Understanding-iBGP.htm
(not necessarily the best article, just the first one I found describing
the iBGP/same-AS stuff you're talking about).
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
===
There are a handful of fcgi launchers in ports/pkgs that should do a
much cleaner job of it.
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athom...@athompso.net
Is there any functionality in bgpctl(8) that will show me precisely what
I'm advertising to a neighbor?
If not, is there any easier way - assuming I don't have access to my
neighbor's router, and they don't run a looking-glass - to find that
out, short of packet sniffing?
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-Adam Thompson
run OpenBSD without
glitches - Intel makes a big deal about how the Avoton/Rangeley line
require binary blobs to initialize the chipset, which seems ... well,
dumb. And barely credible, at best.
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
.
--
-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
not have
snapshots to take care of this. Hopefully someone will suggest a way to
deal with this problem under OpenBSD that I'm not aware of...
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
script wherein
you can put whatever custom craziness you like, that gets executed once
at boot time. Typically you would only use this for executing
system-specific commands to initialize non-packaged software that you've
compiled yourself.
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
be to create an rc.d script that
integrates cleanly, then release your work as a port, but sometimes
that's just too much work.
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/Adapters/Bi-Directional-SATA-IDE-Adapter-Converter~PATA2SATA3)
in production before, Startech has a few others with more convenient
form factors (click on Related Products).
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
Anyone know what happened to undeadly? (The|A) host seems to be up but
doesn't answer on any port.
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-Adam Thompson
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) for the not-yet-upgraded system, should I remove the patches
normally, reverting to 5.5-RELEASE, or ... ?
Thanks,
-Adam
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athom...@athompso.net
Cell: +1 204 291-7950
Fax: +1 204 489-6515
On 14-11-24 12:28 PM, David Higgs wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net wrote:
I just upgraded one of a matched pair of 5.5 systems to 5.6, and after the
upgrade finished, it occured to me to wonder what about the
binpatch55-amd64-* packages from m:tier
for routing, no matter how many full
tables I have in memory. (Top tells me I'm only using 338MB of memory,
which seems suspect.) They're fast enough for my needs; the fastest
usable connection they have is 1Gbps and they can easily saturate that.
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to change the default motd,
the installation scripts, Theo's welcome root mail and xdm. Is there
anything that I have missed?
You might want to ask on the BitRig mailing lists/forums/whatevers,
since I believe they would have already had to tackle this.
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
?
The source code is, I think, the only thing that's obvious - both the
BSD license and years of jurisprudence about that license establish its
situation.
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
about running pf in this situation.
Cluebats welcome.)
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
to work for you).
If you're not so lucky, or you need better guarantees that it might
work, then your options are quite limited.
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athom...@athompso.net
Cell: +1 204 291-7950
Fax: +1 204 489-6515
On 14-12-18 12:57 PM, Mike Larkin wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:24:45PM -0600, Adam Thompson wrote:
On 14-12-18 12:06 PM, andrew fabbro wrote:
In short - the list of VPS providers who can support OpenBSD is actually
very big.
I have to take issue with that statement...
The list of VPS
packages, make sure ttPKG_PATH/tt
(and
+/etc/pkg.conf if applicable) is
pointing to the 5.6 packages directory on your CD or nearest FTP mirror,
and use something like
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
, AIX and UnixWare/OpenServer all support LDAP authentication
without going through the PAM layer.
Theoretically, any BSDauth-enabled OS could do so but most others
(NetBSD, FreeBSD) take the, umm... easy way out and do it through PAM.
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
the word schadenfreude in regular conversation :).
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
complete separation all
the way out to the ethernet switch and/or the shared UPS (take your pick).
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, though. (And I'm not
going to pay that much just for this, sorry.)
Also, note that 802.3ad was renumbered, effectively, to 802.1AX-2008
which has since been superceded by 802.1AX-2014... not that anyone
really knows or cares about that level of detail.
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
no explicit support for ppp in /etc/netstart so I think
your approach is otherwise probably the best way to do it.
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
+1 (204) 291-7950 - cell
+1 (204) 489-6515 - fax
is that
QuickAssist is a really, really nice feature *if* you can figure out how
to use it properly. Reminds me of the buzz surrounding the Cell
processor when it came out.
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://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20150218085759mode=expandedcount=0
If I've got my timeline right, we're already post-5.7-freeze, so I
assume 5.8 is probably when us mere users will see a partially-SMP
network stack.
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
+1 (204) 291-7950 - cell
+1 (204
), vi(1), etc...
anything where the non-visible output is actually the important part.
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
+1 (204) 291-7950 - cell
+1 (204) 489-6515 - fax
be used here.
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
local DNS resolvers - all live in that 198.yyy.yyy.yyy/25
subnet; I don't know if this is relevant or not.
So... at this point, what problem indicators (counters? log messages?)
should I be looking at or monitoring?
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
+1 (204) 291-7950 - cell
+1 (204
and boot sector... catch-22!
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
choose between
soundfonts.)
Thanks,
-Adam
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
On 2015-03-11 10:58 PM, Zhi-Qiang Lei wrote:
It was just a router which does NAT for local devices in
192.168.1.0/24. The external interface, of cause, was pppoe0. Now for
some reason, I want one of the device with IP 192.168.1.200
communicate with outside through the tunnel interface tun0
exercise pointless. Good luck, anyway.
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athom...@athompso.net
results on a DGS-1100 because all ports on the switch are limited to
1Gbps no matter what... so the fact that loadbalance is limited to 1Gbps
per stream and roundrobin 2Gbps per stream becomes irrelevant.
But it's still strange that one works and one doesn't.
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
For the usual reasons - most VPS providers do not allow you to install
from arbitrary ISOs, and even fewer are willing to give you any
assistance at all with unsupported OSes. (You're only getting 1kbps?
Let's see... oh, you're running OpenBSD. Have a nice day, bye.)
-Adam
On 04/17/2015
to recompile the bootloader with some debug flag set? Did I just
zone out while reading the relevant part of a manpage?
(FWIW, WinXP, Ubuntu 15.04 and current Sysresccd all boot OK, so I'm
pretty sure the hardware is fine.)
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-Adam Thompson
athom...@athompso.net
now all prefix learned from BGP goes to
rdomain 0. I want to put prefix learned from BGP into the rdomain I specify.
Thanks,
-Yang
From: Adam Thompson [athom...@athompso.net]
Sent: 24 July 2015 20:33
To: XU, YANG (YANG)
Subject: Re: rdomain with BGP
On 07/30/2015 10:26 AM, XU, YANG (YANG) wrote:
Adam,
Your comments and links are very helpful, they made some concepts clear for
me. Many thanks!
What I need essentially is VRF function which converts IPv4 prefix to VPNv4
prefix dynamically. I hope experts can help on this. After spending
point of view, I guess that's not a popular use
case.
Regards,
-Yang
-Original Message-
From: Adam Thompson [mailto:athom...@athompso.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 6:04 PM
To: XU, YANG (YANG) y...@research.att.com
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: rdomain with BGP dynamic route
On 07
. If you want small +
light, don't get the tablet model, and IMHO get at least the x220 or newer.
Of course, none of us are actually answering your original question :-/.
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On 15-10-25 03:46 AM, Some Developer wrote:
I'm just wondering what hardware spec I'd need push 20 gigabits of
network traffic on an OpenBSD server?
Short answer: It's not generally possible today, at least for your use
case.
Medium answer: Contact Esdenera Networks to find out. They
On 15-10-27 02:53 PM, Martin Schröder wrote:
And then there are SSDs. PCIE SSDs do up to 3000 MB/s write throughput.
https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/solid-state-drives-dc-p3608-series.html
And I'm sure there are tape libraries that can write that, too. :-)
I
Thank you for the reply. I see now that my request was wildly
unrealistic.
Not "wildly", just unrealistic unless you have a massive budget.
Basically I'm trying to write a business plan and am trying to plan
for the worst case scenario so I don't fall over if traffic somehow
spikes to such
On 15-11-10 01:45 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote:
As a general rule you should avoid using dns names on anything that
might cause the boot process to fail. Even more, you should really
avoid using names on hostname.if files.
Anybody run into this before? - is the fix to add all the symbolic
On 15-09-23 05:01 PM, Mike Bregg wrote:
I'm using an APU as a firewall/router and it works very well.
However, after experimenting with some different wireless cards, I
actually opted to install a separate EnGenius EAP600 Access Point on
the main floor of my house, using PoE to run to the
On 09/20/2015 10:26 PM, Quartz wrote:
It looks like the M:tier thing is pretty close, my only concern is how
long it'll last before the maintainers lose interest and the project
gets abandoned.
Handling updates/upgrades in OpenBSD has always been one of the more
difficult parts for ordinary
On 16-02-01 12:19 PM, Tinker wrote:
My purpose with asking for SSD-accelerated HDD was DOUBLE:
1) I need some SSD storage but don't like that it could break
together - I mean, a bug in your system will feed your SSD at full
bandwidth for ~7h-7 days, it's completely fried - that's not OK, so
On 16-01-23 08:34 PM, Ted Unangst wrote:
I will add that one of the reasons we have support for all these
museum pieces is that people can build their very own museum and run
something interesting on it. But running on emulators doesn't really
satisfy that goal. If there are, in fact, no
On 16-01-25 03:43 PM, rizz2pro . wrote:
> Ok we've figured it out.
>
> We have a couple identical environments all attached to one switch and
> they are all advertising the same VHIDs to each other and it looks to
> be causing some arp problems. (Environment A was getting CARP
> advertisements
On 16-01-26 10:32 AM, Peter Hessler wrote:
On 2016 Jan 26 (Tue) at 08:13:22 -0600 (-0600), Edgar Pettijohn wrote:
:> * adduser(8)/useradd(8):
:> Needs to be unified into one single
One binary, with symlinks. Both methods should still work, however.
$0.02:
s/sym/hard /g
might satisfy
On 16-01-21 04:02 PM, rizz2pro . wrote:
I know the CARP interface's MAC address is generated by the VHID so I am
sort of leaning towards it be an ARP issue and possibly not an issue with
the OBSD system. But I am hoping for some hints or ideas from you guys.
I have a suspicion... what kind of
On 16-03-30 03:07 AM, Sean Kamath wrote:
Still using a Wyse (50?) on my Ultrasparc 80.
In college, we had these weird DEC PC’s that we used as VT100 compatible
terminals.
That would either have been a DEC Rainbow, which was a
hybrid-dual-processor 8088/Z80 machine that ran MS/DOS, CP/M *and*
least twice in the last 6 years, it doesn't really owe me
anything. So I'm not devastated, but still not looking forward to
buying a new desktop-replacement-class laptop.
P.S. If any of you need ThinkPad X2xx-generation parts, feel free to let
me know :-(
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When using "ssh -D" to establish a SOCKS-type proxy, I can specify the
bind_address for the local end of the connection, but how do I control
the bind address on the far end?
I'm accustomed to using -D to remotely administer various web services
that are behind a firewall/bastion-host instead
On 2016-04-01 11:07, ropers wrote:
And if anyone has ever operated the OpenBSD installer via a
teleprinter, I want to hear that story.
I think there's still a first-generation TI Silent 700 somewhere in my
parents' basement. If, when they either die and/or move out to a
seniors' residence
On 16-04-26 05:29 PM, Jeremy wrote:
Yeah, that's half the problem. My ISP isn't telling me much. Their
helpdesk is handled out of the Philippines and it seems they're reading
off a script. They don't mention PPPoE but from what I've tried so far,
this looks like it will be necessary.
Jeremy
On 16-04-16 11:55 AM, Mihai Popescu wrote:
Hi,
beside OpenBSD 5.8 i installed FreeBSD 10.3 on my router-pc. For routing i
use pf.
I noticed that the routing/NAT-performance is in FreeBSD noticeable higher
than in OpenBSD.
I think that is due to the SMP-support of pf in FreeBSD.
I would point
On 2017-02-13 07:11, STeve Andre' wrote:
I'm puzzled and am asking for help. I'm attempting to install
the -current snapshot (feb 12) on a Dell precision t3500. The
install formats a 6T disk very quickly, like in 25 seconds. Hmm.
After installing the tar files, installboot fails with a
: October 6, 2016 10:20
To: Adam Thompson <athom...@athompso.net>
Subject: Re: security(8) question - how to skip a single file?
Hi Adam,
Not replying to list in case I did not understand the question.
I have the following towards the end of /etc/changelist
.
.
.
/var/nsd/etc/nsd.conf
I have RTFMed and googled, but I still canât figure out how to do one simple
thing: make security(8) ignore a single file that changes on a daily basis,
where that file is otherwise monitored due to /etc/mtree/4.4BSD.dist.
The file in question is /var/unbound/db/root.key, which I have
On 2017-04-07 16:41, Mihai Popescu wrote:
I don;t want to offend you folks, but I'm curious and I will ask: is
this BSDCon so useful? Does it pay the efforts?
If someone has time and knowledge to do a PF tutorial he/she can do it
and post. Do you need the Con?
I'm asking this having in my mind
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On
> Behalf Of bytevolc...@safe-mail.net
> Sent: April 10, 2017 19:31
>
> > Plus, this year it appears that Peter is co-delivering the seminar
> > with Massimiliano Stucchi from RIPE, so it will presumably
> From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of
> Stefan Sperling
> Sent: July 10, 2017 16:17
> Subject: Re: Doubts about the successors of OpenBSD leadership and development
>
> Obviously, Theo de Raadt will succeed Theo de Raadt in the leadership
> and development of
On 2017-04-25 05:27, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2017-04-25, Adam Thompson <athom...@athompso.net> wrote:
By definition, you will (probably) not be able to use the ACME
protocol - it only works (normally) when your system is connected
directly to the public internet with a static IP a
By definition, you will (probably) not be able to use the ACME protocol - it
only works (normally) when your system is connected directly to the public
internet with a static IP address.
Simply because you say "behind a corporate firewall", I already know (or at
least assume) that ACME will
Now that we’re in the wonderful world of syspatch(8) – which works well for me
so far (thanks for the hard work, everyone!), I’m trying to figure out if
there’s still any point to using m:tier’s openup tool.
>From what I can tell, running “syspatch ; pkg_add -u” is pretty much
>equivalent to
I still haven't found this answer anywhere...
Does OpenBSD (more specifically, pf(4), I guess) support RFC 6296,
IPv6-to-IPv6 Network Prefix Translation? Looks like FreeBSD can do it,
but I can't tell if that's something they added to their own pf fork, or
if I'm just missing something in
So I’ve discovered that, when trying to do NAT66 (for a ULA network), a line
like:
"match out on egress inet6 from !(egress:network) to any nat-to (egress:0)"
doesn’t work. (Yes, the network in this case is ridiculously simple.)
I believe it doesn’t work because :0 indicates that aliases on
> > I know I can do NAT66, but I don't think it's feasible to emulate NPT
> > using NAT66 rules.
>
> No, NPT is different and can't be emulated by anything that OpenBSD's
> PF currently does.
Shoot. I was really hoping pfSense managed it through some feature that
predated FreeBSD's pf(4)
Maybe I missed the email here, but in case it actually doesn't exist:
OpenBSD 6.1 is now supported on Microsoft Azure courtesy of reyk@ and
the team over at Esdenera® Networks, with assistance from Microsoft. At
least that's what I got out of the BSDCan announcement.
I'll let Reyk blow his
On 2018-05-19 02:59, justina colmena wrote:
https://man.openbsd.org/mandoc.css
That's the css. You style it how you like it. That's the whole point
of it. And I agree. It's very readable on my phone.
Original message From: Mihai Popescu
Date: 5/18/18 11:04 PM
On 2018-04-12 20:02, Nick Holland wrote:
On 04/12/18 09:47, Consus wrote:
On 08:28 Thu 12 Apr, Nick Holland wrote:
Another "failure mode" of VirtualBox people should be aware of:
I understand through good sources, Oracle monitors the IP addresses
that
it's downloaded from, and if they can
On 2017-12-26 14:56, Jordan wrote:
I've recently gotten my hands on a couple shiny new SPARC T4-1 and
T3-1 servers and I was looking to install OpenBSD with a softraid
mirror on them for production use. The problem is, is that I end up
with this upon following the install instructions and
is online and was hoping to be able to do the 3 disk
>RAID1 offered by OpenBSD softraid. Do you know if bioctl(8) is capable
>of controlling the onboard raid controller, or will I need to do all
>raid rebuilds via the hardware raid bios on the T4?
>
>
>On 12/28/17 08:58,
On 2018-07-24 17:54, Diana Eichert wrote:
ok, answered my own question by grep'ng within /usr/share/man/man4,
looks like azalia(4) systems. Was hoping for something usb attached
but no such luck.
On Tue, 24 Jul 2018, Diana Eichert wrote:
I'm trying to connect to an audio system that only has
On 2018-07-18 09:35, Tom Smyth wrote:
Hi John,
You would need microsoft services for unix (SFU) for NFS connectivity
FYI - so no-one goes haring off in the wrong direction.
SFU is the server-side component, equivalent to running nfsd(8).
On the client side, only certain editions of Windows
On 2018-03-20 15:18, Xianwen Chen wrote:
Dear Mihai,
Although your tone in your email was not pleasant,
You are posting to OpenBSD-misc. Objectionable tone is very common,
particularly for users who *appear* to be complaining about
immeasurably-small problems that aren't actually
Hello,
I’d like to use OpenBSD to build a MIDI synthesizer using SoundFonts, as the
OpenBSD MIDI and audio subsystems are remarkably understandable and sane,
compared to everything else out there today.
�
However, I’m having difficulty finding a combination of hardware that is known
to be
-Original Message-
From: Edgar Pettijohn
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:12 AM
To: Adam Thompson ; misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: smtpd - help needed tranlsating to new virtual map syntax
It would be helpful if you show what you have tried.
Should be as simple as:
action "relay-01"
[Cross-posting here before I give up and switch to Postfix -Adam]
I have an old instance that uses smtpd's virtual to rewrite *sender*
addresses.
Reading the 6.4-STABLE version of the smtpd.conf(5) manpage, I can't see how to
accomplish my goal any more - it looks impossible.
I don't want
ginal Message-
From: owner-m...@openbsd.org On Behalf Of Adam Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:26 AM
To: 'Edgar Pettijohn' ; misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: smtpd - help needed tranlsating to new virtual map syntax
As I said, I haven't tried anything yet as I don't want to break a worki
I found the "-T" (trace) flag to smtpd(8), and it gives me this, which AFAICT
confirms my suspicions:
[...]
rule #2 matched: match from src allowed-hosts for any => translate
lookup: lookup "athom...@athompso.net" as ALIAS in table
static:translations -> 0
lookup:
On 2019-01-21 04:08, Gilles Chehade wrote:
In this test case, my translations map had:
What is a translation map ?
There is no such thing in OpenSMTPD (as of today).
A virtual map that happened to be called .
You're feeding the virtual table with invalid values.
Apparently, yes.
Also,
On 2018-12-02 20:50, Philip Guenther wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 2:15 PM Adam Thompson wrote:
>
>> I've successfully installed OpenBSD 6.4-RELEASE at OVH, but I'm noticing
>> one thing there that's different from everywhere else I've used 6.4.
>>
>> tse
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