> Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?
I don't think so, because OpenBSD does not care about desktop users.
In fact, the solely purpose of OpenBSD system is to make/build the next release.
> So many documents will be lost
There is an analysys about one's documents on the internet, something
like 10% are files you will not ever need, 20% are files that you will
never use, and so on.
Bytheway, I am using marc.info to read list, has anyone an idea about
why some emails are presented l
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Luis Coronado wrote:
> xrandr over ssh? even if you run it with -X it will display something from
> the machine running the ssh client (and the local X server) not the ssh
> server one :s
>
> -l
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Mihai Popes
What is the output of xrandr plain command, without any parameters? Do
not use display numbers or anything else, type it like this 'xrandr'
using a ssh connection on the non working configuration.
> (by accident I had the cable connected to the onboard video)
I recall I tried once a dual monitor setup using an onboard graphics +
another plugged in card. I don't remember exactly, but I think the
boot message was shown one the onboard graphic card only or on both
monitors. I was concerned abo
> Is there not a more systematic way of debugging this?
IT is, but it may be different than your method.
> I find it puzzling that none of the logs contains any error message.
I find it puzzling asking about a problem on a list and not following
any of the advices and report back. I will find it
Hello,
I installed a snapshot of amd64 recently and I was using fvwm from
Openbsd base to install some packages. I even started Firefox to look
for some documentation.
Later, I was going back to cwm since I use it daily. I have a feeling
that Firefox pages fonts in fvwm were more appealing that w
Do not forget to use (activate) uBlock Origin too, there is in Add-Ons
for Firefox.
And one more thing, from this thread:
> If you want to disable core dump for a program, you could (should ?)
> configure your RLIMIT_CORE to 0.
>
> $ ulimit -c 0
> $ firefox
>
> Ah, yes. That's a much better sol
Here are the details, from my everyday setup with no problems in browsing.
I use Firefox, Chromium gives me constant core files and looks chopped
at interface.
I tested many sites, Falsebook and Youtube included, no problems yet.
OpenBSD 6.1 (GENERIC.MP) #17: Thu Mar 30 21:37:57 MDT 2017
dera.
Because of titles like this post there is no clear anymore what
someone is reffering to when one is using words like bridge, switch,
hub, access point, router, ...
Add the IPv6 in the mix and you think you understand the spagetti of internet.
Bleah, looking again at "non-routing access point". Wha
I don;t want to offend you folks, but I'm curious and I will ask: is
this BSDCon so useful? Does it pay the efforts?
If someone has time and knowledge to do a PF tutorial he/she can do it
and post. Do you need the Con?
I'm asking this having in my mind Google Summer of (no)Code thread from misc@.
> ... to connect to openbsd.org ...
www.openbsd.org is for the public.
^^^
>You can see the dmesg and installer output as screenshots below.
Your BIOS firmware is very old, I think. Try an update and try to
disable RAID mode.
> Of course I have added the line to rc.shutdown, as you suggested. On a reboot
> the >pppoe line comes up almost instantaneously.
Back when I was on pppoe, after a quick reboot I used to get some
messages like "connection it is already in XXX state" or so, I don;t
really remember the exact mess
Hello,
There is a typo in man page for xsetroot.
In section OPTIONS, there is '-verson' and I think it should be '-version'.
> So pkg_add will look for the release directory, and not find it yet because
> it's not out > yet.
Is PKG_PATH ignored then?
> until the release is done.
So this is for people wanting to install release only?
> Why exactly a laptop which only takes one disk would ship in RAID mode, no
> idea, but > I've seen it a number of times.
Those designed with random chosen parts toasters should not have been
shipped at all. It is amasing some of them are still alive. Last time
I've checked thei halted the produ
Isn't there a CAPSLOOK written message at panic time on the screen?
If not, look here:
http://www.openbsd.org/report.html
Hello,
whois [address] ends with core dump and this message:
whois(23584) in free(): bogus pointer (double free?) 0xc588e902129
Abort trap (core dumped)
The gdb message is this:
(gdb) core-file whois.core
Core was generated by `whois'.
Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted.
#0 0x0c5ab4
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Denis wrote:
> This is not a bug report. This is strange behavior only.
OpenBSD has no strange behaviours. It either works or it does not.
> I can test all the code modification if necessary.
Before that see this, please:
http://www.openbsd.org/report.html
> in the hope that someone clarify the situation.
What version of OpenBSD are you running?
Did you modified /etc/fbtab?
What is 'll' or that command used to show permissions?
Is just22 a custom user, i.e. not created at install time?
Looking at what I have, I think for a normal install it sho
Is this coreboot/libreboot/*boot a project of OpenBSD?
Is OpenBSD promoting this piece of firmware?
Thanks.
> Which mirror is your favourite?
I was using [1] which I found was almost 2 weeks behind and then
switched to [2].
[1] http://ftp2.eu.openbsd.org/
[2] https://ftp.hostserver.de/
Hello,
I am using top to show running programs activity on an OpenBSD system.
Is there another better command to show in detail the memory used by programs?
My system has 8GB physical RAM. Looking at this, can someone tell me
if OpenBSD uses the "swap memory" model used by other OSes, basically
> for the last 3~4 days (always running the latest of public amd64-current)
I'm not sure what you mean by -current. From what you posted:
> OpenBSD 6.1-beta (GENERIC.MP) #7: Sat Mar 11 18:32:03 MST 2017
> dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
You forgot to tell the
> Any help ?
Yes. Look here: http://www.openbsd.org/support.html
For the sake of those 150 users ...
> know what client is occupying the bandwidth
trafshow from ports.
Is systat able to show kb/s realtime?
> Why does it make no sense? It's a real world test on actual performance
> noticed by a > client. It absolutely makes sense. Yes there are other tests
> which could be performed
> on top of that testing, obviously.
Just as an irony, last week I was so pissed of about wireless
performance betwee
> add athn0
If i recall correctly, from some discussion on misc@, you cannot use a
wireless interface in a bridge ( athn0 or all, I'm not sure). But
maybe I say something wrong, search the archive.
> I'm wondering how to access my webcam as a normal user.
I have added /dev/video0 in file /etc/fbtab after all the existing devices.
I'm not sure this is the best option.
> Does anyone know if they will be bringing it back or what the difficulties
> might be > with LibreBoot and OpenBSD?
Ask on their list! Isn't that obvious?
> Okay, at this point I'm blaming the ISP issued router.
I am using double NAT at home, and regarding the ISP network part, I
can't use 10.0.0.1 in my setup because this is used by my ISP as a
gateway for pppoe.
I've reread your setup many times, but it is not clear for me what you
have at home a
> I am noticing a loss of USB connection if I accidentally / purposely wiggle
> the cable near the USB > type-C device end, using 6.0-current #150.
Are you using OpenBSD cables?
> I'm sending dmesg below, if anyone has any advice on how to make
> touchscreen work (besides 'write your own driver' :) I'd be grateful to
> hear it.
I might be wrong, but I think OpenBSD lacks support for any kind of
touchscreen. If anyone heard about any kind of support, please speak.
Try another USB disk and even try miniroot60.fs.
Some sandisk parts are known to have boot issues.
> Martin
Troll Troll Troll!
> OpenBSD 5.7 (GENERIC.MP) #881: Sun Mar 8 11:04:17 MDT 2015
5.7 is not supported anymore. Besides that, there is a huge
improvement of wireless stuff in -current. I can't believe you didn;t
notice that. Are you serious by not upgrading?
Maybe a shot in the dark:
"But if these directives are put inside the “ ... ” location, the last
flag should be replaced by break, or otherwise nginx will make 10
cycles and return the 500 error: "
>From this: [1] [2].
[1] http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_rewrite_module.html
[2] https://www
>> seeing some bizarre behaviour on one box, on one specific interface:
Hello,
This looks like some stupid TV game, where contesters are given some
clues from time to time and they have to guess what is the real shit.
Do post your FULL dmesg and configurations for network if you really
want some
What is the ifconfig configuration of your PC?
Do you run any pf configuration on your router?
I really doubt ip forwarding is broken, even on a snapshot!
| I feel so much safer. CERT is still performing a role they don't understand.
Could you detail, please? It's too short to get it as a joke or as a
serious thing.
| # ldattach -s 9600 nmea /dev/cuaU2
Did you try with /dev/cua00, /dev/cua01, ...
I think /dev/cuaXX means XX are numbers.
Try a recent snapshot, they are stable enough for your laptop. And
install both firefox and chromium, they are working fine regarding
speed.
I have a slower computer than you and I can;t complain about speed.
> Hello!
> i have the impression that my browser is getting slower compared with
> a fresh openbsd install.
> Any ideas?
Global climate is getting warmer, too.
> ps. Im using iridium
What OpenBSD flavour is that?
Bye!
| I'm just curious: what is it in the kernel that wakes up about every
minute to do some
| work even on a completely idle machine?
Puffy is testing its spikes.
http://www.openbsd.org/images/cdaudio-m.gif
http://www.openbsd.org/images/fanza_right.jpg
| Is this an OpenBSD mailing list?
Yes, it is. The simple fact is that some peple cannot get an idea on a
subject. Two examples are security and randomization.
Something inside them tells them "you didn't get it" or " you almost
got it" and they want to show this is not true. Hence the venting on
| Since going to 6.0 emacs-24.5p5-gtk2 has randomly and infrequently been non
| responsive and consuming one CPU.
Be very careful with this, you may run out of CPUs and who knows, this
beast can randomly and quite frequently bite from your RAMs and SSDs
... in a non responsive feelings about yo
Why don't you run hotplug-diskmount directly in a terminal an see what
is the message, if any?
Folks, pay attention, please! The OP asked about a laptop.
Pansonic Thoughbook is not a laptop! It's a real desktop.
Thanks.
| Does OBSD "see" all the 96*128G memory available ?
Out of curiosity, what does need such a memory today? Do you want to
use a ramdisk?
Thanks.
> My question is, why?
Since that is a machine controlled by your ISP, they can do whatever
they want or do not want. Do not believe all ISP are respecting
Internet standards. Are there standards? Maybe it is a mistake in
configuration. If I remember correctly from some time ago when I read
tcp/ip
Folks, since we are at it, does anyone knows why 'OpenBSD' is spelled
like that and not 'openbsd' . I was ponder that for a time, because I
know you all hate camelCase notation.
Is it ok open_bsd?
Many thanks :-)
> In preparation for my retirement in 2050, I am setting up a media server
> for all my DVDs and CDs.
Krishna knows what we'll be using in 2050! There is a big chance we
will use nothing.
Hello,
I was asking long time ago about a terminal here, and I got some good
answers from people who might been using it back in time.
That question was a begining for understanding what is the relation
among all the stuff from the post subject. Please help with some
clarifications if you can. I'
> e.g. from Lanner.
Can you compensate for the price difference? OR better, do you know a
retailer to sell this on the same price as pcengines in your area?
Lanner is from another league.
...
Still nothing about NSA or other conspiracies in security field?
> ...
Prepare now for posts on this thread showing that if he/she runs a
proper OS, everybody can be a security expert.
Have fun!
I've installed a snapshot somewhile ago, then I needed to update the
firmware for athn device. I get this error:
# fw_update
UNSIGNED PACKAGES: athn-firmware-1.1p1
Fatal error: Unsigned package
http://firmware.openbsd.org/firmware/snapshots/athn-firmware-1.1p1.tgz
at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/Pk
Dude, this is OpenBSD's mailing list not libreboot's. Pay attention, please!
Since the answer is done, I will dare to ask something in this thread:
are there some hints in choosing over Intel or AMD processors?
I see many users do not comment that and I respect it. Sometimes, you
can see phrases in threads like "happy to run AMD again", etc.
Is there a preference over one
> Where do you see word "solution" in the thread pointed out by URL?
Eh, so you did see there is no solution in that thread, didn't you?
> Panic is very similar to
So the solution must be very similar to ... too!
http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20131113030229
> I am loosing network connectivity since i installed 6.0-stable on my
> apu1d4. Previously with 5.9-stable i haven't noticed any issues.
Check the cable to the fiber adapter first. Then:
ifconfig output will be useful,
ping output too.
ssh into the apu and stay there until the breakup is happen
> Summary: The OP has a learning disability. He should probably stay in
> Linux land, where the field is large, and his inability can remain
> hidden. See, once again I am not insulting Linux.
I can bet that if you take even a non-linux guy and show him
/etc/fstab entries then ask him to do a ne
> "Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups!"
> - Steven Seagal
... you were assuming Steven Seagal said this, which is not true ...
> OK I have done a lot of cutting and I may have put your words out of context,
> this isn't intended of course, however I feel when you say "OpenBSD isn't a
> PRODUCT" that this just can't be. By that I mean, that I buy every CD that
> comes out, a) it has an ISBN number so it's a book (but not r
> But programming
> is always ponderation, in many dimensions. You must decide for example
> between (run) time or space (memory), between security, performance
> or simplicity. Sure, with absolute goals there is no much to decide and no
> much discussion, and we are finished.
> Rodrigo.
Total bu
I think it is better to use openbsd-arm@ list.
Thank you.
> Pins 3 through 46 on P8 are listed in the hardware
> information as available for GPIO. Indeed, I can set any of them but
> I notice that on pins 25 (gpio1_0), 21 (gpio1_30), and 20 (gpio1_31)
> seem to be reserved by OpenBSD and great trouble is caused if I try to
> set them with gpioctl(8) lik
> For some time now I cannot copy-paste text from a xterm window by
> simultaneously \
> pressing left and right mouse buttons.
> Anyone an idea?
Um, carpal tunnel syndrome?
I know somebody unable to double click after a heavy drinking night.
But he was able to manage this by clicking one time
Had anyone any success with this usb wireless in recent snapshots.
Following some hints that this chip is not properly powered from USB
port, I hardwired it to the power supply of the computer, but the
result is the same: it fails to load the firmware.
Nevertheless I had some interesting results
Do not trim your dmesg or config file to whatever you think is
necessary to show.
The OpenBSD version is a critical information for any serious
troubleshooting operation.
> More ideas ?
dmesg output here >
> Sorry, no, I should have been clearer.
Man, so much confusion in this thread. All are mixed in usage:
partition, mount point, filesystem, mount options, etc. Aren't they
different anymore? I was reading about wx_ stuff since I will install
a new snapshots, but this thread is too damn unclear.
S
> I have an HP Pavilion DV2700 laptop with an old BIOS version I'd like
> to update. HP's official solution is to run something under the
> dinosaur Windows Vista, which I was glad to wash my hands of about 7
> years ago.
Are you sure there is no iso image with self boot and update, ready to
be b
> I logined, it got IP from DHCP, but no network.
> Same as previously.
Something is wrong on the network trunk between you and the DHCP/Gateway.
How are you connected to that gateway?
> Our ports team is doing a great job.
>
> To get a life with OpenBSD, simply type
>
> $ doas pkg_add life && life
You've got me!
So there is life, but you have to invoke the superuser!
Nice :-)
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=146401377026646&w=2
$ life
ksh: life: not found
$ time life
ksh: life: not found
0m00.00s real 0m00.00s user 0m00.00s system
> Switching from Alix with vr(4) to APU2 with em(4) should not affect
this.
Some people claim that ISP may use MAC for some kind of login. I'm not
sure, but maybe he can verify by MAC clonning.
> A small correction needs to be made to the Multimedia faq13.
The FAQ rarely needed corrections, until now.
The FAQ is not a substitute for man pages! Some nice folks work a lot
to keep it to date, to throw a clue to the beginners. But they didn't
figured out until now how to convince beginners t
> ... Firefox on CentOS 6.7 ...
Meantime, on OpenBSD's misc list ...
> So, in the end, what are you? And what's you real problem, you think you
> are putting too much or to little time on OpenBSD? What's there to adjust?
Probably a heavy linux user, who spent too much time in it, then
somehow got the idea that is more cool to run UNIX, better the most
secure one of
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> Firefox still has this issue.
> Any hints how to debug this further to give useful information?
See the manual for gdb(1) command and try to use ports@ for this kind
of problems, please.
Just for the record, I have tried this dongle on a different computer,
Intel based and the result is the same. I found a dmesg with this
model showing the MAC, but my model shows no MAC. Maybe this is a
different revision with a slighty different chip. No big deal.
Thanks.
> I don't know where the problem is coming from.
I will try to feed it +5Vcc directly from the power supply then :-).
It will be it or motherboard ...
> I believe this is a power management issue with ehci(4).
> Your device doesn't get enough juice to power up.
Hmmm, it is the second Lenovo machine i have with usb issues.
As far as you can tell, is it because of pure hardware or is it
because of software drivers?
Thanks.
Hello,
I have this usb2.0 dongle, TP-LINK TL-WN722N wireless device. I've got
it after I installed OpenBSD so I have run fw_update -a for firmware.
Still I get this error athn0: could not load firmware after plugin.
The manual page says it should be an error number in message, but it
is not.
Wiki
> ifconfig: OK
> route -n show: OK
> ping internet: not ok
> ping gateway: not ok
> ping other PC: not ok
> But i got IP from DHCP!
Thank you for letting list know about your experience with OpenBSD install.
screwed your instalation: YES
not posting commands full output: YES
making assumptions:
> echo "installpath = http://your.favorite.mirror/"; > /etc/pkg.conf
> .. and enjoy!
Error from http://your.favorite.mirror/
ftp: your.favorite.mirror: no address associated with name
http://your.favorite.mirror/ is empty
:-)
First, the webpage design change suggestion, then the logo alternative ...
I guess a project name change suggestion will follow, I'm curious if
this will be till weekend.
Is this thread to be taking serious?
> I don't know why I was stuck with the one-option-per-line configuration.. :-/
More readable. But you have to use the \
mark. I was using it a lot in hostanem.pppoe0, but never figured out
it can mess things so badly.
Can you delete the 'media autoselect' from both configurations?
The other thing is you have managed to obscure the MACs but you put
the wpakey there in the post ...
> I highly recommend this book. It gives an excellent overall picture
> which is essential if you are going to try to do anything.
> Everything is tied together overall, if you can't get that full picture,
> forget doing anything very useful.
I doubt there is a book wich explains all from A to Z.
>From the pf.conf man page:
"Surrounding the interface name (and optional modifiers) in
parentheses changes this behaviour. When the interface name is
surrounded by parentheses, the rule is automatically updated whenever
the interface changes its address. The ruleset does not need to be
reloaded.
> There will be an extended downtime of the main ftp and www sites for
> an upgrade today starting in approximately one hour's time from now.
Do you need an actual firewall? Are things relatively ok there?
> Wait, what is the best guess now, did the recent scheduler patches that were
> posted >here recently, remedy the speed issue altogether?
Try and see for youself. I was doing that at almost each snapshot and
chromium was the winner all the time. Then firefox took over and I am
using it right now
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